Participants: Don Mackintosh (Host), Neil Nedley
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000217
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00:01 The following program presents principles
00:03 designed to promote good health and is not 00:05 intended to take the place of 00:06 personalized professional care. 00:09 The opinions and ideas expressed are 00:11 those of the speaker. Viewers are encouraged 00:13 to draw their own conclusions about 00:15 the information presented. 00:50 Hello and welcome to Health for a Lifetime. 00:51 I'm your host Don Mackintosh and today 00:53 we're gonna be talking about cancer. 00:55 Here to talk with us is Dr. Neil Nedley, he is 00:58 a specialist in Internal Medicine and he is 01:00 from Ardmore, Oklahoma. Welcome Dr. Nedley. 01:03 Thank you Don. Now you, you do internal 01:05 medicine, you do a lot of different things 01:07 under that rubric, one of the things is the 01:10 things like you're doing today education, 01:12 and we're talking about, today about 01:14 cancer and that kind of strikes fear in 01:16 people's hearts, should it? Absolutely, yeah 01:19 cancer is a deadly disease and it often 01:21 disfigures and really humiliates significantly 01:25 before that death occurs. And is it the leading 01:29 cause of death, where is it now? 01:30 Yeah, depending on how you look at, 01:32 it could be the leading cause of death. 01:35 Coronary artery disease used to be 01:36 considered the leading cause of death. 01:38 There are less cases of that then there use to 01:40 be, but there are more causes of cancer 01:43 and so in some estimations cancer 01:46 now is number one, over 550,000 deaths 01:49 per year in this country just due to cancer. 01:52 And there is, you know there's warning 01:53 sings like bleeding and unusual bladder 01:57 habits and all those different kind of things. 01:58 We talked about that in our previous 02:00 program, but I think you know as we just 02:02 began here, we're not gonna focus on that as 02:04 much, but we're gonna be talking 02:06 about the immune system on what we 02:08 have to defend against it in this program. 02:10 But lets just briefly mention that people 02:13 should be aware of the warning signs and 02:15 the screenings, what are some of those? 02:17 Well warning signs would be unusual 02:19 bleeding or discharge, change in bowel or bladder 02:21 habits, thickening of the breast, difficulty 02:25 in swallowing or indigestion, that's a 02:28 big warning sign actually because 02:30 reflect is so common and Esophageal 02:32 cancer is on the rise. Okay. Then as far as 02:35 screening colonoscopies? At age 50 stool slide 02:39 test, for microscopic blood at 40, 02:42 for women mammograms, Pap smears. 02:45 For men PSA test and then physical exams 02:48 where there is tension to the thyroid, 02:50 the lymph nodes, ovaries, testicles. 02:53 What about Thermograms? Thermograms, yes actually 02:58 the Thermograms can have less radiation to 03:01 them however there is new mammography 03:04 now that only has about 1/50th of the 03:08 radiation of previous mammograms, 03:11 and so if you get modern mammography really 03:16 there isn't a concern that there used to be. 03:18 We're gonna talk today about things 03:20 that people can do once they know the 03:21 warning signs, of course avoiding the 03:22 Carcinogens themselves like smoking and 03:25 alcohol and meats and all these different 03:29 things that we put into our systems. 03:31 Polluted areas, we talked about fish, 03:33 we talked about how they you know are 03:36 seen to be drawing all the pollutants in the 03:38 streams, but we wanna talk about 03:40 protective foods? Yes you know interestingly 03:44 no matter how much we try, we can't 03:48 completely avoid all Carcinogens and 03:50 that's why we really need to focus on the 03:52 immune system. And I recently saw a 03:55 cartoon of a horse lying in a hospital bed 03:59 and there was an IV going into the horse, 04:01 that said Chemotherapy and the caption said 04:03 all those years with the Marlboro man. 04:06 So yeah, in another words you, you can't 04:09 avoid everything. You got to be, there's 04:11 gonna be people in your environment that 04:14 or the situations that I'm not saying people 04:16 out there are cancer causing, but it's gonna 04:18 be situations that you need to be looking at 04:21 protective elements in foods. 04:23 Yes, absolutely and in another ways it's not 04:25 just foods, but one of the greatest protective 04:27 elements actually are the Carotenoids. 04:31 Carotenoids. Yeah Carotenoids are what 04:33 turns your tomatoes red or strawberries 04:37 red, actually there are orange Carotenoids as 04:39 well, and the Carotenoids also in 04:43 green vegetables. And Carotenoids actually 04:46 decrease the tissue line in cancers, 04:49 so cancer of the lung being a tissue lying of 04:52 the bronchial tubes is decreased. 04:54 Cancer of the mouth and oral cavity is decreased. 04:59 And there is evidence showing cancer of the 05:00 breast or any other lining tissue cancer. 05:03 The cancer of Endothelium or the 05:07 Epithelial layers. So that's that outer layer 05:11 like if you're looking in there is just that 05:13 layer right here. That's right. 05:15 And all these are protecting that. 05:17 That's right, the Carotenoids protect 05:21 from developing cancer. And that's only a one 05:23 cell layer isn't it? That's right, often it's 05:25 just a one cell layer. Correct. Okay. 05:28 So, we have a graphic actually describing 05:31 the foods that are high in Carotenoids and 05:34 you can see mixed vegetables, pretty 05:36 good source, that's 78 percent of the RDA or 05:40 they recommend daily amounts for Beta Carotene. 05:44 Getting above a 100 is even better. 05:45 Cantaloupe just the half of a Cantaloupe 05:47 86 percent. Sweet red bell pepper if you eat 05:51 a whole one of those, a 135 percent of the 05:54 RDA of Beta Carotene. Sweet potato, again 05:58 being that orange color loaded with 06:00 Beta Carotene 249 percent for a medium 06:06 baked sweet potato. Cooked pumpkins 06:09 271 percent, raw carrots a cup 309 06:13 percent, but notice the cooked carrots have 06:14 even more, the cooking of the carrots 06:16 actually breaks down some of the fibers 06:18 membranes and allows more Beta 06:20 Carotene into the system and then the 06:22 highest source are orange yams, peeled 06:24 after baking one cup 436 percent. 06:28 And this is gonna, if you eat those that's 06:30 gonna be protecting that layer. 06:32 Exactly, wow, yeah. And many cancers 06:35 form in the Epithelium. Great, any other 06:39 protective food we should know about? 06:42 Vitamin C foods, Vitamin C is a potent antioxidant. 06:45 Okay. Antioxidants will protect against 06:48 the number of cancers actually Vitamin C 06:51 not only can protect you from cancer, 06:54 but also your offspring if you're a male. 06:57 A study show that males who are not 07:00 getting 250 milligram of vitamin C per day 07:04 their sperm can be genetically damaged, 07:06 even though they don't have bad gene 07:08 themselves, their sperm can be 07:10 genetically damage and that damaged 07:12 sperm can increase the risk of cancer of 07:14 the kidney, and cancer of the nervous system 07:18 and even lymphoma in their children. 07:22 And many people don't realize that 07:25 cancer is the second leading cause of death 07:27 in children, and many of those cancers are 07:30 not from the children's lifestyle 07:32 habits, but the lifestyle habits of the parents. 07:35 So what we realty need to get the 07:37 message out, any man who is reproductive 07:40 and wanting to have children 07:41 needs to get enough Vitamin C. 07:43 Well the Pastor did a lot of pre-marital 07:45 counseling maybe I should give them Vitamin C. 07:47 There you go. Alright, so foods that are high 07:51 in Vitamin C then. We have a graphic on 07:53 that is well. Okay. And the foods that are 07:55 high in Vitamin C are listed on the screen, 08:00 Broccoli, with Vitamin C you wanna 08:02 have it raw, cooking is gonna destroy 08:04 about half the Vitamin C, so you can 08:06 see Broccoli raw is gonna have more, 08:08 an half cup 41 milligrams. Sweet green bell 08:11 pepper 66 milligrams, just one orange will 08:15 have 70 milligrams of Vitamin C, but many 08:17 people are unaware that small kiwi has 08:19 even more, 75 milligrams of Vitamin 08:22 C and the strawberries are loaded, one cup 08:25 82 milligrams of Vitamin C. Grapefruit higher yet 08:29 94 milligrams. Brussels sprouts are 08:32 loaded, they are so loaded that even if 08:34 they're boiled, one cup is gonna have 98 08:36 milligrams. That's a hard sell for me. 08:38 Orange juice fresh one cup 124 08:41 milligrams and sweet red bell pepper one 08:44 medium 141 milligrams. A lot of people don't 08:47 realize red bell pepper is not only high in 08:49 Beta Carotene, but very high in Vitamin C. 08:53 Now regards to orange juice, what 08:54 type of orange juice you think would have 08:56 more Vitamin C in it. The orange juice 08:58 that's ready to serve, that you buy off the 09:00 shelf or the orange juice that comes from 09:03 the orange concentrate? Boy, I would say 09:07 probably off the shelf because they added to it. 09:10 Well, false, off the shelf if it stays there 09:14 for a while, yeah, just keeping it on the shelf 09:17 is going to deactivate the Vitamin C. 09:19 I knew that, but I was just saying 09:20 you're trying to trick me. And so if you are 09:22 there you know if it's been there a week or 09:24 two you're gonna have a lot less 09:25 Vitamin C, so the orange concentrate 09:27 would be able to preserve that or if you 09:30 freshly squeeze that orange juice would 09:33 even be better than the orange concentrate. 09:35 Boy, a kiwi and some orange juice. 09:38 But, I wanna tell you I'm gonna avoid the 09:39 Brussels sprouts myself, but the other 09:41 stuff there I just love it all. 09:42 Yeah, well you can avoid several of those 09:44 foods and still get your 250 milligrams a day. 09:46 Okay, any other vitamins we need that 09:49 are protective especially with cancer? 09:52 Vitamin E is very important in protecting cancer. 09:55 Vitamin E is actually a more potent 09:57 antioxidant than even Vitamin C. 10:00 And Vitamin E in foods has been shown 10:01 to reduce prostate cancer and also 10:04 actually skin cancer. One interesting study 10:08 in rabbits, a hairless strain of rabbits where 10:12 ultra light was shown down on them, 10:13 so much so that 24 percent of them got 10:16 skin cancer within a few weeks. 10:19 If the rabbits were fed extra Vitamin C and E 10:22 none of them got skin cancers, so C seems 10:25 to work with E in helping to prevent 10:27 skin cancer. And we have a graphic on the 10:30 foods that are high in Vitamin E. 10:32 Kind of feel sorry for those hairless rabbits 10:34 and rats or whatever there, 10:35 but let's look at our list. 10:36 Alright, yeah I do too with those, 10:38 that was the study. Soybean oil, one 10:41 tablespoon 23 percent of the RDA of 10:44 Vitamin E for one day, just ten almonds 10:47 would have 27 %, love almonds. 10:49 Almonds are perfect for Vitamin E. 10:51 Canola oil, one tablespoon 30 percent 10:55 of the RDA. Almond butter of course it's 10:58 concentrated then that would a good source, 11:00 sunflower seeds are an excellent source, 11:02 just one tablespoon 42 percent of the intake 11:07 of Vitamin E. Good news for a Kansan 11:08 like me. Yeah, absolutely. And then 11:11 there are other foods that are higher yet, 11:12 the sunflower oil of course being more 11:14 concentrated and wheat germ oil an 11:17 excellent source and that really 11:20 underscores the need to eat the whole wheat bread. 11:23 If you're eating the white bread you're not 11:24 getting the Vitamin E. So it sounds like it 11:27 from the list that the concentration is in the 11:29 oil of those foods. That's true, Vitamin E 11:32 is a fat soluble vitamin and so tends 11:35 to come with the fat of plants. 11:38 You're really not gonna get it in the fat 11:40 of the animals or say near that, unless they 11:43 have eating a lot of plants. 11:44 Well even then not near as high as getting 11:47 it directly from the plants. Sure, 11:49 and I was talking to a man that you know 11:50 works for a huge manufacturing plant 11:53 in the Mid West that makes soybean oil 11:56 and he was telling me that, that a soybean or 11:58 excuse me sunflower seed, yeah, sunflower 12:02 oil and all that stuff, high concentration in 12:04 those, in those seeds, yeah, you can see that 12:08 there as well. Vitamin E is very important 12:11 there, and by the way don't be afraid of the 12:13 food-grade canola. There's a lot of people 12:16 out there saying canola is the cause of 12:17 mad cow disease and it's really tractor oil 12:20 and that type of thing. There is a type of 12:22 rapeseed oil that is used for tractors and 12:24 it's now food-grade, but they've gotten that 12:26 confused and they think that's what 12:28 people are eating off the shelf and that's not 12:31 true, canola has been shown to be a healthy oil. 12:33 So really the food, this produce department in 12:36 the supermarket is like a friend of mine 12:38 says the department of defense. 12:41 Absolutely. If you wanna go there and 12:43 get tooled up. Yeah. We wanna talk about 12:45 antioxidants and all these different things 12:47 when we comeback and look more fully at 12:49 that, but looking at the warning signs, 12:52 avoiding the Carcinogenic foods, 12:55 having your screening as well, but then 12:57 going and enhancing the immune system 13:00 with these protective foods that's the message. 13:02 That's the message, and of course there's 13:03 other some protective foods as well. 13:05 Selenium foods actually are protective too. 13:08 We're talking with Dr. Neil Nedley, we're 13:10 talking about how to protect yourself 13:13 against cancer. 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Thanks so much for being with us. 14:37 Thank you Don, it's great to be here. 14:38 In our first half we're talking about 14:40 protective foods, we're talking about 14:41 vitamin C, we said we should probably had 14:43 mentioned that in marriage counseling, 14:45 because the male can protect his offspring 14:49 from cancer fascinating and then also the 14:52 Vitamin E largely in the plant oils and 14:55 that's protective as well. You also mentioned 14:57 the Selenium. What's Selenium? 14:59 Selenium is a trace mineral and it's in the 15:02 soil and it's found primarily in wheat 15:06 products and seeds. Particularly the wheat 15:09 grown in the Dakotas is loaded with 15:11 Selenium and that prevents colon cancer. 15:14 So, we wanna talk now about so called 15:17 antioxidants is that like something like 15:19 that's against oxygen. Are you against 15:22 oxygen Dr. Nedley? Well no, oxygen is a 15:25 very good thing. But to get your tissues 15:28 oxidized is not a good thing. Alright, so tell 15:30 me, what's that mean. You're a biochemist 15:32 major? Yeah O2 is great but O3 is not 15:37 great when you bring it in. O3 is ozone 15:41 and ozone if you put it into the system that 15:45 free oxygen off of the O2 is like a free 15:49 radical and so it bounce around and 15:53 bang up things, and actually get into genes 15:56 and help change the genes. 15:58 So, so the antioxidants are 16:01 protecting against O3? Exactly, and other 16:04 types of substances that can actually 16:07 oxidize the tissues or cause cancer. 16:10 So let's go back to the department of defense, 16:12 we're in the food section, right, and 16:13 we're gonna look at antioxidants, 16:15 you're gonna help us to that? 16:16 Yes, interestingly a cup of kale has 50 16:22 milligrams of Vitamin C, wow, and 13 units 16:26 of vitamin E. But if you take a look at the 16:29 antioxidant potential of a cup of kale, 16:33 it's actually equal to 800 units of vitamin E 16:38 and 1100 milligrams of vitamin C. 16:42 So in another words the whole plant 16:45 actually super seeds by far the sum of its 16:49 component parts as far as the antioxidant potential. 16:53 And that's why it's much better than you 16:55 know then giving them Vitamin C at 16:57 marriage counseling a bottle of Vitamin C 17:00 would be giving them a whole cup there of kale. 17:05 You know I think maybe that something we're gonna do. 17:10 Well the University of California at Berkeley 17:12 went the next step and actually took a look at 17:15 the top ten antioxidant fruits. 17:19 Okay, let's look at those. And we have them up 17:22 on the screen as a graphic, but number 17:25 one I usually like to start number ten, 17:27 go the other way around, but number 17:29 one is strawberry, oh that's good news for me. 17:31 Strawberry very important antioxidant fruit. 17:34 Plum, a lot of people don't think of, 17:36 you know they think of plums being rather 17:38 humble fruit, but they're actually very 17:41 important antioxidant. Orange is number 17:43 three, red grapes will all there bio-flavor 17:45 and it's number four. Kiwi number five, 17:48 grapefruit six, white grapes not quite as 17:50 good as red grapes, but still very good. 17:52 Banana is number 8, apples following line 17:56 there at number nine and they rated tomato 17:58 as a fruit and that is number ten. Wow. 18:02 Tomato has been shown particularly to 18:04 help prevent prostate cancer. 18:06 So this because of I guess the 18:08 red pigment or something in it? 18:10 Yeah the red pigment in tomatoes lycopene, 18:13 those with the highest levels of lycopene in 18:15 their blood stream from fruits and 18:16 vegetables have the lowest rates of 18:18 Pancreatic cancer in the world and also 18:20 lower rates of prostate cancer and other cancers. 18:23 So strawberry, all these things are kind 18:25 of red there is white too, but these are the 18:29 Antioxidants. So take this list with you 18:31 when you go to the store the next time if 18:32 you wanna be protected. Absolutely. But the 18:34 big message is kale right? Well kale is a vegetable 18:38 and so they went and ranked the vegetables 18:40 as well, and I should mentions they did not 18:42 rank the legumes and if they had done that 18:46 some of the legumes may have come out 18:47 even on top of some of the vegetables, 18:49 because beans we know are loaded with 18:52 a number of different antioxidants you 18:55 know chemicals in them. They are made in the 18:58 formation of the legume. But let's take a look at 19:01 the graphic on the top ten antioxidant vegetables. 19:04 Okay. Number one garlic, garlic. 19:09 Very potent antioxidant vegetable, 19:11 actually it has some antibacterial, 19:13 antiviral property, has been shown to also 19:15 help prevent heart disease as well as cancer. 19:17 Kale comes in as number two and I'm 19:20 happy about that, kale is actually my favorite 19:22 green at least the way Erica makes it at home. 19:24 Spinach, it is good advice to follow your 19:29 grandma when she said to eat your spinach. 19:31 Number four Brussels sprouts, number five 19:33 Alfalfa sprouts, number six is 19:36 Broccoli, seven beets, eight red bell pepper, 19:40 we've been talking about that as far as its 19:42 vitamin E and C potential. Nine is onion and ten corn. 19:46 Corn, not corn chips, not corn chips, but the 19:50 whole corn. So these foods are back to kale 19:53 and all those others, they're just excellent. 19:56 Yeah, yeah and they are excellent and 19:59 that's why the American Cancer 20:00 Society continues to recommend to people 20:03 to eat their fruits and vegetables. 20:05 Now when you were telling that some of 20:07 these are just higher in the substances then 20:10 medications or other things you can get, 20:13 why aren't that, these not just being touted 20:15 even more and more like when you go to 20:17 your physician, here's a bowl of strawberries 20:19 and gives them to you, why not? 20:21 It should, really should be, it should 20:23 be part of health education to inform 20:25 people that the produce section can 20:28 prevent them from actually suffering a 20:30 horrible death, I mean cancer is a horrible death. 20:32 It's often and very painful, and these 20:35 fruits and vegetables and study after study 20:37 have been shown to prevent it. 20:39 You were telling me that there was some 20:40 research being done on tumeric, but it was 20:43 not funded, but you know these agencies 20:46 that usually fund things for health. 20:48 Was funded by I think the department of 20:51 defense or something. Right. But the studies 20:54 on these foods, there's not a lot of study, 20:57 because you can't really what, market it? 21:00 Well, what I was describing to you was 21:03 not just the cancer prevention studies. 21:05 The cancer prevention studies are done 21:07 through epidemiology, so the study of disease 21:10 groups and then the study of what they ate 21:12 or what lifestyle habits they had. 21:15 Where we can't get the funding is 21:18 in the treatment. I see. And so if we're using 21:20 plant foods to treat cancer, there is no 21:23 pharmaceutical company who is going to invest 21:26 in that, because you can't pattern a plant. 21:28 You know no one can plant a strawberry and 21:30 says it belongs to Pfizer. You can't pattern 21:33 turmeric, because it's a natural product. 21:36 I see. And so what Dr. Aggarwal at MD 21:40 Anderson of Houston would say, was that 21:43 he can't get funding for studies and his 21:46 studies are showing turmeric, not only 21:48 preventing, but actually treating breast cancer. 21:52 Treating a multiple myeloma, treating a 21:56 number of different cancers that are very 21:58 difficult to treat and he's having success 22:00 with that, at least in animal studies and 22:03 he's wanting to branch over human studies, 22:06 but he's having trouble funding it, 22:07 because you can't get it from companies and 22:10 you have to try to get it from the U.S. 22:11 Government and his arm of the U.S. 22:13 Government and help him fund his last 22:14 turmeric study was the department of defense. 22:17 Amazing, okay so you know, you know we 22:20 talk about the plant sources, I want to just 22:22 add one of the questions some 22:23 companies are taking these phytochemicals, 22:27 these antioxidants and they are putting them 22:29 into pill form and different things. 22:32 Is there anything to that? 22:34 Well, in pill they're gonna be good too. 22:37 But if you want to get tomorrow's 22:40 phytochemicals that have been shown to 22:42 prevent cancer, you will get it in today's 22:44 fruits and vegetables, because that's where 22:46 they get it from, and so I recommend 22:48 eating the fruits and vegetables, because 22:50 there's probably even other beneficial 22:51 properties besides the lycopene in the C and 22:54 the E that we don't know about. 22:55 Fiber, all those little things we do know 22:57 about this, but other things as well that 22:59 maybe good for us. Correct. 23:00 Okay, so we're talking about the immune 23:03 system here. We've talked about the 23:04 protective foods, we talked about vitamin 23:07 C, we talked about vitamin E, we talked 23:09 about the fruit that were antioxidants, 23:11 we talked about the vegetables that were 23:13 antioxidants, anything else for boosting the 23:15 immune system? Exercise, physical 23:17 exercise actually will improve endorphin 23:21 level, it will actually boost natural 23:23 endorphin levels. Endorphin is a 23:25 chemotherapy agent that we use in certain 23:27 types of cancers but your own white blood 23:30 cells make it and it will make more by 23:33 vigorous exercise, also improving the 23:36 interleukin levels. It improved interleukin 23:38 one, interleukin two and it's also been 23:40 shown to improve natural killer cells. 23:43 Natural killer cells don't work by the 23:45 antibody system which was another 23:46 system of the immune defense that the body 23:48 has, but seem to be able to sniff out 23:51 cancer cells and destroy it. 23:52 It's actually still a mystery as to how the 23:55 natural killer cells work, but we do know 23:57 that exercise improve natural killer cells and 24:00 can even double the amount. 24:01 Okay, so if your exercise is making 24:03 your, your killer cells just mean lean fight 24:07 machines, they can sniff better, they can, 24:08 they can find what's causing the problem. 24:11 Yes, absolutely and so we recommend 24:14 Aerobic physical exercise on a daily 24:16 basis, including a vigorous exercise and 24:20 a lot of people may not feel fit enough to 24:21 do that, but if they alternate vigorous 24:23 exercise with like rest or slow exercise 24:26 maybe 40 seconds each, they can get that 24:29 vigorous exercise and still benefit 24:31 from a great deal. What about obesity? 24:34 You know I've heard that someone who is 24:35 obese has a constant state of kind of 24:38 inflammation or infection, is that true, 24:40 is this something want to try and avoid? 24:42 No, it is true, obesity suppresses the 24:44 immune system as well and that's why 24:46 there have been a number of cancers 24:47 associated with obesity. Cancer of esophagus, 24:50 cancer of colon, prostate, breast, 24:53 lymphoma and the list goes on in regards to 24:57 obesity and its role in helping bring about a 25:02 cancer probably do to it's oppressing effect 25:04 on the immune system, but there 25:05 maybe some other factors as well. 25:07 Okay, exercise, obesity anything 25:09 else with our immune system? 25:10 One of the things about obesity is to 25:13 realize the new way of finding out whether 25:16 you're obese or not. Okay. 25:18 You know of course you can step on the 25:19 scale and that can give you a clue if you 25:22 pinch here and you're and you're pinching 25:25 more than an inch, that's an 25:27 indicator you're obese. 25:28 Now, I'll do it right here. 25:32 Well we're gonna talk about it. 25:34 Dr. Scharpenberg says, you can lay 25:36 down here on the floor and if you put 25:38 your chin down and you can't see your 25:40 feet, that's a sign that you're obese. 25:43 But actually the new scientific way is to do 25:46 a waist to hip measure. You put a measuring 25:50 tape around your waist above where 25:52 your bones are at and I used to say that 25:56 above the bones, but really a lot of people 25:58 would miss their waist measurement if 26:00 they didn't also include the naval in 26:02 that, but some people's naval is way 26:04 down here. So you wanna put the naval 26:06 in that waist measurement and then 26:09 the denominator is the hip measurement and 26:11 that's where the bones are at, and so if the 26:13 waist to hip ratio, yes, is greater than 0.8 26:19 and you're a woman you have an increased 26:22 risk of all the cancers that I have mentioned 26:25 earlier that are associated with obesity. 26:27 You also have an increased risk of 26:28 diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease. 26:31 If it's greater than 0.95 and you're man 26:34 you have an increased risk of all 26:35 those cancers as well. Because really when 26:39 you're that obese there, the problem is 26:41 not what it looks like on the outside, 26:42 but what's inside, all of the fat around all 26:45 those organs. Exactly, the abdominal obesity 26:47 is where the risk is at and that's 26:49 what this is measuring. Well we've learned a 26:53 lot about the most important section of 26:57 the supermarket today. Yes. And you know 27:00 people are usually walking right past 27:02 that, going to the diary section and the 27:04 meat section and choosing the first 27:06 section in the store. So you really don't 27:08 even have to shop as long man, if you take 27:10 this to heart, but do take it to heart. 27:12 This is very important. Dr. Nedley, thank you 27:15 so much for being with us today to talk 27:16 about our immune system and the 27:18 department of defense. Is there a spiritual 27:21 lesson you draw from this? 27:22 Well there is a spiritual, we sin is 27:25 spiritual cancer and we need to have 27:28 cancer warning signs, we need to have 27:30 screening test for sin like David did and we 27:32 need to have prevention where we 27:34 avoid spiritual carcinogens and also 27:36 avoid, boost our spiritual immune system 27:39 and then that would give us life eternal. 27:43 Good advice. Thanks so much for joining us 27:45 today and we hope as a result of today's 27:47 program you're gonna go to the supermarket 27:48 and buy those foods, protect yourself, 27:50 protect your kids, your family, 27:51 your friends and we hope that God richly 27:54 blesses you, and you have health that lasts 27:56 for a lifetime and you know him as well. |
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