Health for a Lifetime

Hypertension

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Participants: Don Mckintosh (Host), Williams Dewitt

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00:06 professional care. The opinions and ideas
00:09 expressed are those of the speaker.
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00:49 Hello and welcome to Health for a Lifetime.
00:50 I'm your host, Don Mackintosh
00:52 we're glad that you're with us today. And, we have
00:54 a rare treat today, we have the leader of
00:57 the North American Division of Seventh
00:59 day Adventists, the Health Ministries director,
01:02 DeWitt Williams, he's with us, he has
01:04 a very busy schedule and he is in involved
01:07 in training of many people around the
01:09 world, we're glad you're with us today.
01:10 Good to be here, Don. Around the world for
01:13 several years, when you were in the Health
01:16 Ministries department for the
01:17 general conference, but now more focusing on the
01:19 North American Division, which is what Canada and
01:22 United States. And, Bermuda.
01:23 And, Bermuda. That's right.
01:25 And, you do summits or training programs,
01:28 both in Orlando, I think at the early part of
01:32 the year, last part of January. That's right.
01:34 And, then out in the West Coastal and
01:37 Portland or other. We do one in
01:39 Portland in October. Okay.
01:40 And, in 2006, we're hoping to start a new
01:43 one, a third health summit West in Montreal with
01:46 with the committee and basically and people
01:51 on the North Eastern part of the coast with a
01:52 French emphasis. Okay. So, you're
01:56 you going to still called that, health summit West
01:57 or that would be east,. We'll call, that would be
01:58 health summit North. North. Okay.
02:00 One in Oregon is health summit West and the one in
02:03 Florida is health summit.
02:04 And, people that go there, I mean they
02:05 have all kinds of different things they can be
02:07 trained on in terms of helping people with
02:10 their health needs, whether it would be like
02:11 today's program, where we talk about
02:13 hypertension or that you do, I think the breath
02:17 free training, which is smoking sensation
02:19 program, by the way I think it's one of the
02:21 best, if not the best out there, I mean
02:23 it's used in corporations and different things
02:26 in many churches, and then, and then
02:28 all kinds of other programs. That's right.
02:30 You know, 50 million people are still smoking
02:33 plus maybe another 3 million of teenagers show
02:36 its very needful, we, we've a program
02:40 on, on hypertension. Umh! Umh!
02:42 And, I wanted to talk about hypertension today
02:45 because in the African American Community
02:48 hypertension is probably three times more
02:52 prevalent, then in the white community,
02:54 and about one out of every three African
02:58 Americans is, is hypertensive, they've high
03:02 blood pressure, well, that's another term for
03:04 high hypertension is high blood pressure.
03:06 And, the interesting thing is that most people
03:10 don't realize that they have high blood pressure.
03:14 Called the silent killer. The silent killer.
03:17 You have it, and you don't know that you
03:19 have it. And, then so you have to be, and
03:22 I, I thought my, myself, I thought, I was pretty
03:25 healthful, you know, I'm not overweight,
03:26 I'm a jogger, exerciser, a vegetarian, and
03:32 I went to my doctor one year and he said,
03:35 do you know, you, you've have high blood pressure,
03:38 I said no, I don't have high blood pressure.
03:40 He said, yes you really, you have high blood
03:43 pressure, hypertension. And, that's why I'm,
03:48 that's why I'm concerned about it, because I know,
03:51 when I started studying and found out
03:53 that there was a history of it in my family.
03:55 I see. And, so I'm, I'm concerned about it.
03:59 So, how can you know what your risk is?
04:00 Well, the risk factors of course, there you're
04:04 high blood pressure, if, if when they take your
04:07 blood pressure. And, it's above a 140.
04:10 For the top number. For the top number,
04:12 which we called the systolic, then and the
04:15 bottom number is the diastolic, if that's
04:17 above 90 and you've full-blown high blood
04:21 pressure. And, then this one is high-normal
04:25 130-139 and now I think we call it prehypertension
04:28 and they have instead of it's prehypertension.
04:31 You actually have it. So, the top number
04:33 be 130 to 139 and the bottom number the
04:36 diastolic will be the 85 to 89.
04:38 That's right. And, then 120/80 they say as
04:42 normal, but you know, it's not good to be
04:44 normal in America, you don't want to be normal.
04:46 you want to be below normal. Normal is not
04:49 good in the United States. And, so I
04:52 actually say the 110/70 is actually what you
04:56 want to shoot for 110/70. Now, they, these
05:00 numbers apply to people, of course that
05:01 are not taking medications. That's right.
05:03 But, if you're, if you're taking medications
05:07 that's your number too,
05:09 if it's high and you've to take medication,
05:12 that's the number that you shoot for also.
05:14 So, complications, I mean, some people say,
05:17 hey, no, no big deal, but the complications of
05:19 of hypertension, I think you're gonna work us through those.
05:21 Yes, high blood pressure is very important because
05:26 if you have it, you're more prone to strokes
05:30 and congestive heart failure. See there is
05:34 that pressure that, the top numbers, when the
05:36 blood, when the, when the heart squeezes and
05:40 pumps and the second number that bottom
05:42 number diastolic is, when it relaxes and
05:45 if the pressure is too high on those arteries
05:48 and blood vessels, you, you can, you can blow
05:51 out of, of a gasket pop. You can pop,
05:54 yes, you can pop one in the brain, you can
05:56 pop one in the heart. Let's look at the graphic
05:59 I think, we'll go through these. Okay. And, we've, okay
06:01 stroke, congestive heart failure, because it backs
06:04 upon the heart attack. Exactly, Atherosclerosis
06:07 or hardening of the arteries and then
06:11 heart attacks especially, aneurysms, kidney disease,
06:14 disease of the retina, of the eye, blood vessel
06:18 rupture, or weakened memory and mental
06:21 abilities. Many people believe that actually
06:23 what happens with, with Alzheimer is that you've
06:27 a lot of little tiny mini strokes caused by
06:31 high blood pressure and every time you've a
06:33 little mini stroke little burst aneurysm here
06:35 that you've a, area of the brain that's cut off
06:40 then you've another little mini stroke and
06:44 then another little mini stroke and pretty
06:45 soon, your, your brain has been shut down
06:46 through this high blood presume. But that's not
06:49 really a problem, Alzheimer's that afflicts
06:51 African-Americans as much as Whites
06:53 I think you've mentioned that in the previous
06:55 program with me. But what about Kidney
06:57 problems. Well, that is the problem basically
07:00 with Black people, we've, we're, we've
07:02 lots of, of kidney problems, more people
07:06 more African-Americans, who are on dialysis
07:08 machines and suffering from kidneys and most
07:10 of it comes because they don't realize that they've
07:13 high blood pressure and by the time that realize
07:15 it, it's, it's too late and there is a certain degree
07:19 of kidney failure. Let's look at that graphic
07:21 on kidney failure, in another words, you're
07:24 saying here at the, at the left of our screen
07:26 moving to the right, what's this mean?
07:28 Normal on the, on the left of the screen and
07:31 you can see that as it goes up, you over a
07:35 159/99, you've perhaps 22 times greater chance
07:40 of having kidney failure. And, by the way, kidney's
07:43 all work on this pressure gradient don't they.
07:46 Exactly. So, if it goes up,
07:48 those are little fine tubules in the
07:50 kidney and they just kind of messes them up,
07:53 Exactly. And, that's, that's a real big
07:56 problem, and then of course, we've a graphic
07:59 here that shows at as it goes up, death, morbidity
08:03 call. Yeah, morbidity, that's right.
08:05 So, as you go up for 120, this is. Oh!
08:09 This is your systolic your, as it starts going
08:11 up over 180 and so forth you can see that.
08:15 More, toward. Mortality rates there
08:18 on the left and the amount of blood
08:20 pressures on the bottom. That's a 170
08:22 times more probable that you will have.
08:27 Death. Death from it. So, this is not
08:30 something we should mess around with. Absolutely
08:32 not. Now, I was in you know, when I was going
08:35 to seminary, I took my practical in a,
08:38 African-American church, I was wishing I was
08:40 African-American, because I enjoy the preaching,
08:43 I enjoy the life, the vibrancy of, of the
08:46 African-American church, it's just great. And, I
08:50 I really missed that many times, but they
08:53 were these ladies there, they were the Parish
08:55 nurses, they had the white gloves on and afterwards
08:57 they did the screening in the church, because
09:02 they were so concerned about this.
09:03 Well, you know, I do that, I tell them, when
09:06 I'm coming to preaching in the church a seminar,
09:08 afterwards I, I like for us to do a blood
09:10 pressure screening, and we've almost in every
09:12 instance found somebody whose blood pressure is
09:16 just off the charts. 190, 210/150,
09:21 we've to take them to the hospital and they
09:23 didn't know it, that's the interesting
09:25 thing they never even suspected it.
09:26 So, you know, maybe, you're watching this
09:29 program and you say, hey, I'm gonna takes this
09:32 to heart, why not do a screening in this weekend
09:34 at your church, You don't have
09:36 to have Dr. Williams come, you just do it on your own
09:38 and you're gonna discover, you're gonna
09:40 really helps. You're gonna save some
09:41 lives, does you think, if they do that.
09:42 I believe so. Now, I wanna mention
09:44 that I, what happened with me. My blood
09:47 pressure in the morning is normal, but when I
09:50 go to work and the phones start ringing.
09:53 Okay. And, the people start visiting you, and
09:55 you see your desk pile up and stuff, my
09:57 blood pressure would go up. I went over to see
09:59 our nurse once and above 130, that's when
10:02 my mind start growing, I went over to see my nurse
10:04 and I said, you know, when I took my blood
10:06 pressure this morning, it was alright and she
10:09 said, well let me take it now and sure enough.
10:11 It was up. It was up.
10:12 So, what I've done, is I've actually bought my
10:15 own blood pressure machine. Keep that with
10:17 you. And, I carry it with me, I take it in the
10:20 morning and you need to take your blood pressure
10:23 four or five times a day because it varies, it
10:26 fluctuates, you, your, your blood
10:28 pressure maybe up in the morning, but it will
10:30 be down at noon, you know, I don't
10:32 know, you, you maybe different from me.
10:33 Or maybe it doesn't go up in board meetings.
10:35 Bored or what, but so it's good, you can buy
10:41 this at one of the stores for maybe
10:43 $25, but it's a good investment to know.
10:46 Many times when we go to a doctor to have them
10:49 take our blood pressure, we've what we call the white
10:52 coat effect, and you know, you rush to get to
10:55 the doctor and know you're little out of breath and,
10:58 and his stethoscope is hanging around his neck
11:00 and so forth. It terrifies you.
11:01 It terrifies you, so your blood pressure goes up,
11:03 so it's good to have your own blood pressure
11:05 machine and especially, if you've any tendency
11:08 toward blood pressure, high blood pressure, you
11:11 need to know yourself. Because once you get on
11:13 the medications. The medications are not
11:16 good for you, especially for some of the men
11:18 decrease sexual function and so forth,
11:21 so you don't want to get on them if you can.
11:23 None of the men are probably interested in
11:25 that. Okay, reduced, when, when your blood
11:28 pressure starts to go down though, you've a graphic
11:30 that shows that it starts to reduce the
11:32 cardiovascular risk and we're gonna look at that.
11:34 Yes, okay, for the general population, a
11:37 three millimeter decrease in systolic
11:39 blood pressure would yield 11 percent fewer
11:42 strokes, 7 percent fewer coronary events, and 5
11:45 percent fewer deaths. Wow! Let's just take a
11:47 little down, a little tiny bit. Let's take a bit
11:50 down, let's say your blood pressure is a
11:52 140/90 and you do down to 137, you've done
11:57 all that, that you just saw on the screen.
11:58 So, every point you can bring it down is better
12:01 for you and I think you're gonna show
12:03 us some ways to do that, the first one you
12:05 mentioned to me is oatmeal? Eat oatmeal
12:07 Yes. Oatmeal, well let's look at that.
12:09 Okay, let's look at the oatmeal slide,
12:12 you know, 150 people were categorized for the
12:16 amount of oatmeal they consumed and you can
12:19 see that. The result here.
12:20 One-bowl-per-day users had lower blood pressure,
12:23 that's right and lower cholesterol, you hear a
12:26 lot about blood pressure and I mean you're about
12:28 oatmeal and cholesterol, but it also lowers blood
12:31 pressure. And, the effect was independent of age,
12:34 weight, and intake of sodium, potassium,
12:36 and alcohol. So, oatmeal or what about
12:40 cereals that are made of oats, would that be good.
12:42 No, I don't think it has. Not as good as oatmeal.
12:45 But it would have some, because it has the
12:48 oats in there and I've oatmeal pretty much everyday.
12:51 Now, on Sabbath and Sunday I change a little
12:53 bit, but on five days of the week oatmeal.
12:56 I'm hungry enough right now, if you've
12:58 some, break us some oatmeal, we could just take some
13:00 right now. Now, I don't know, if I took your
13:02 blood pressure as a result being on this
13:04 program, I wonder if it's up or down, we will take
13:06 it right afterwards. Probably up.
13:07 Okay, what about salt? Now, sodium chloride,
13:13 that's what salt is the, the sodium is not good
13:17 for most people. And, so salt does raise
13:22 blood pressure, and you'll find out that in
13:25 societies that ingest little or no salt, they
13:27 don't have hypertension. The teenagers blood
13:30 pressure is the same as somebody 90 years of
13:33 age, when diets very low in salt, such as.
13:36 The rice and fruits diet. The rice and fruits diet,
13:37 given to hypertensive patients, blood pressure
13:39 often falls and returns to normal. Changing to
13:43 diet that is only moderately low in salt
13:45 produces only small reductions and
13:47 salt-induced hypertension has been produced in both
13:50 man and experimental animals. Well, we're
13:53 gonna comeback and talk about salt topic,
13:54 salt some more because I mean you need to have
13:59 some salt, but lower salt is better and
14:03 I want to ask you about that, when we
14:04 comeback. Hope that you join us.
15:09 Welcome back, we're talking with DeWitt
15:10 Williams. He is the Health director for the North
15:13 American Division of Seventh-Day Adventists.
15:15 And, in that role, he does training seminars
15:18 around the country and you see a lot of health
15:21 problems and one of your concerns is
15:23 African-American Health because of the silent
15:26 killer, hypertension, high blood pressure
15:29 and you do screenings and you help people
15:31 with that, we were talking at the break
15:33 you know, about how salt is related to
15:36 increase in blood pressure, but we do need
15:39 some salt right or wrong? We do need, it's
15:41 absolutely necessary to have salt, so we're
15:43 not against all salt, but the American diet
15:46 is so high in soy foods, you've heard of
15:49 soul foods? Oh! Man I've tasted some
15:51 of it, but maybe I, I'm sure, I don't understand
15:53 that all whole point of it.
15:54 Well, soul food is very tasty, but it's high in
15:58 salt. And, you know, the we've barbecue beef,
16:01 a lot of meats and almost all meats
16:03 you know, have high sodium content,
16:05 and so, you just, we say instead of soul food,
16:10 there is a dash diet. Dash diet, yes.
16:13 The dietary approach to stop hypertension,
16:15 dash, dietary approach to stop hypertension.
16:17 And, that's a diet, that's low in salt.
16:20 And that's what we recommend that, if, if
16:24 you know, or maybe you'll have soul food,
16:26 maybe once a week, but dash diet the
16:29 other days of the week. Dash away from the
16:32 soul food. So, reduce salt then you've a
16:35 graph that shows us that, when you
16:36 reduce it, the blood pressure will go down,
16:38 here it is. Reduce salt and blood pressure.
16:40 This was an actual experiment, they
16:42 did 20 patients with average blood pressure
16:44 of 161/101 that's very high, reduced their salt
16:48 intake for a year. And, after one year, their
16:51 average systolic pressure was lowered by 19 points
16:54 and diastolic by 14 and the blood pressure of
16:57 16 of the 20 patients was well controlled by
17:00 simply restricting their salt intake.
17:02 Wow! So, this, this for many people and a lot of
17:06 people, there are some people, they're not as salt
17:08 sensitive, but for most people they're and this is
17:10 gonna really help. And, especially with
17:12 Black people. And, the average America diet
17:15 is high in salt, we don't realize it, and we
17:18 probably only need about 250 mg a day, but here is
17:23 the average diet, 4000 mg a day. Normal blood
17:28 pressure 240000 mg. 2400 mg a day, I'll still stay
17:34 normal, okay. Yeah, yes that's right. High blood
17:36 pressure, let say what is that, 2000 mg a day. So,
17:41 for high blood with congestive heart failure,
17:44 you need to come down as you see, you only
17:46 need about 250 mg a day, that's what you need. So,
17:50 we're just, just going way over that. What
17:53 are the some of the foods that are high in sodium. If
17:56 you buy anything in a box, or in a bag.
17:59 Or in a can. Or in a can, or in a restaurant, you
18:02 go to a restaurant to eat. Let's see some of
18:05 them because, corn chips, a cup 163 that's not so
18:08 bad, but cured ham, loot at that. Wow! And,
18:11 one thing about most foods in a can are gonna
18:15 high in sodium because the peas there, they're
18:18 frozen, that's 70, but when you put them in
18:20 the can, they go way up. Can foods are always,
18:23 somebody said because they've to cook them, and
18:26 when you cook them, you take away some of the
18:28 flavors, so they add salt in to get back some of
18:30 that flavor. Chinese, rice style Chinese, a
18:34 whole bunch of sodium, look at that, and then
18:37 dairy products, of course have a lot of sodium many
18:39 times in them. That's right, is there
18:40 another one up there, that will see the next
18:41 one. I don't think to have another one I think
18:44 this is the one that kind of gives us a sample,
18:46 but there is all kinds of them. Even pastries,
18:48 you have down here. Danish pastries, 371,
18:51 man some of these things they look and they, they
18:56 taste good, but we've to be careful. We've to be
18:58 careful. And, specially as you say, if you
19:00 know, that you've high blood pressure, you
19:02 need to take steps to control it, and one of
19:05 the steps is being very sensitive to salt, be
19:07 careful. Now, you're the Health Ministries
19:09 Director for the North American Division.
19:11 Right. And, you know, Adventists are known for
19:15 two things, the Sabbath, you know, and also
19:18 they're known for, for their health habits.
19:20 Habits, yes. And, you want to talk
19:22 just little bit about what the blessing of
19:26 being a Seventh-day Adventists or at least
19:27 following those health principles could be and
19:30 you've down here a graphic about the recent
19:33 article in the National Geographic. Yeah, I was
19:35 little pleased with this National Geographic, the
19:39 cover story was the secrets. The secrets of
19:42 living longer and they feature three groups in
19:45 here, they are feature the, the Sardinians from
19:48 Italy, and the feature the Okanawa from Japan, and
19:51 then the feature the Seventh-day Adventists.
19:53 And, I was just overwhelmed, they print
19:58 about 22 millions copies of this magazine. Lot of
20:02 people see that. Lot of people and they, there
20:03 was a follow up on ABC twice and the CNN
20:08 had a, Anderson Cooper had a segment on it and I was
20:10 just overwhelmed. And, the article it says that
20:15 the Seventh-day Adventists are the longest living
20:17 Americans. That's right. And, now you told me, in
20:20 your own family, you've some pretty long living, I
20:22 mean this profiled more the look like Caucasians
20:25 in the article, but African- American, Seventh-day
20:28 Adventists live a long time too.
20:30 And, that's what I, I like about it, as you see
20:33 it didn't come out in the story that this lifestyle
20:36 effects all cultures, effect all races,
20:40 the lifestyle, the new style of lifestyle,
20:43 a plant based diet, runs across and brings
20:50 better health to, no matter, who follows it.
20:51 Now, you tell me, one of your aunts was a 107.
20:54 My father lived to be 93, which is long for man and
20:58 I had one of my father's mother's sisters lived to
21:03 be 99, another lived to be a 100, one 104 and
21:07 one lived to be a 107, if she lived another
21:09 month, she would be an 108. Wow! I hope,
21:12 I've her genes. Now, you know, you, you, you told
21:14 me how old you're, I don't wanna bring that on television,
21:16 but you. I don't mind telling my age.
21:18 How? 67 on my next birthday. You don't even look 67,
21:21 I mean I look older than you do on the
21:24 camera, you look good to me. Well! Thank you. We'll,
21:27 pay you for that afterwards, but so, so this,
21:29 this what are the things about the Adventists,
21:32 so called Adventists lifestyle that can help
21:35 us with hypertension. Well, in this slide,
21:39 we've been following Adventists for many, many
21:40 years, since we've had that, we've had the first
21:44 1960 to 1985. We had a study done in
21:47 Lomaland, we called them the mortality study.
21:49 And, they compared Seventh-day Adventists
21:52 with Californians. The American Cancrum
21:55 provided those people and we were shown to
21:59 live a longer time and then we did the first
22:01 health study in 1974-1988, and over
22:05 and over 200 scientific studies have been
22:08 produced showing the, the results of that, and the
22:14 results show that we can get ten years just by
22:18 following five little things. What are these
22:22 five things. Regular exercise.
22:23 Eating a plant-based diet, eating small
22:26 amounts of nuts regularly, maintaining
22:28 normal body weight, and then not smoking
22:31 So, then this is what you've been talking about, exercise,
22:33 plant-based diet, all these different things
22:36 that are also good for hypertension as well.
22:38 Good for hypertension. And, now the interesting
22:43 about plant-based diet is very low in salt,
22:46 very few, very little sodium in a plant-based
22:52 food, where as big foods have lots of, of
22:56 sodium and of course not smoking.
22:57 We've a graphic here that I want to just
23:00 show you here. You know, we've all
23:03 kinds of Adventists, and if you take the
23:05 Adventists who don't follow those five habits
23:09 You can see that there is a ten. Difference
23:12 Ten year. Yeah, the ones that are do better, the best
23:15 is 87 years for man, 88 for women, but
23:18 when they do poor, it drops ten years
23:21 doesn't. That's right. And, we, we classify
23:23 the better as those who are following those
23:25 five habits, exercising, keeping the body weight,
23:28 plant-based diet, so forth, so a ten year
23:30 difference can come about just by following
23:34 those five habits. A lot of people were
23:36 a little bit concerned, when you saw one about
23:38 nuts and somebody said, well you're a little bit
23:42 nuts, but we're finding out that nuts
23:43 actually produce the largest lifestyle
23:47 difference, adding nuts into your diet, it lowers
23:51 your blood pressure, a man who eats nuts five times
23:54 a week has less heart disease, there are all
23:57 kinds of chemicals, all kinds of vitamins,
23:59 all kinds of phytochemicals, that's what
24:02 I mean, phytochemicals in nuts and vitamins
24:04 and so, I don't know, are you eating your nuts at least
24:07 five times a week. You know, when I was
24:08 working as a nurse in the hospital, a number
24:10 of years ago. You know, what they called me, they
24:12 called me a peanut, because I brought
24:14 nuts every time, they say your one of those
24:15 peanuts. Oh! And, now I see that, that
24:18 was a compliment, back then I thought
24:19 maybe that's not so nice, you know.
24:21 Well, the study actually was actually talking
24:25 about tree nuts. Tree nuts.
24:27 More so the peanuts. Well, that they would
24:29 just call me a peanut, I was eating tree nuts,
24:31 they were calling me a peanut. Okay.
24:33 But now you guys that were calling me that, you can
24:36 see, that was really good what I was
24:38 doing. That was good, yeah, so nuts, add them
24:42 into your diet. Okay, then you,
24:44 you said that, there is a one of the
24:46 discoveries they made in the Adventist Health
24:48 study was one of the first time ever they made
24:50 a discovery. I think you have a graphic on that.
24:52 On water? Yeah. 5 glasses of water
24:55 a day, and. Does that help with hypertension?
24:59 It help for hypertension, hypertension, the blood can get
25:03 thick, especially, during the night, you know,
25:07 you, most people don't drink water
25:08 at night, when they try to stop cutting,
25:10 they you wanna start cutting down on water
25:12 before they go to bed, and so we don't
25:13 have to get up, and so actually in the morning
25:16 your blood is quite thick and most heart attacks
25:18 occur probably before 10 'O clock in the
25:21 morning, because the blood is thick.
25:24 Dehydrated. Dehydrated and so, when
25:27 you get up in the morning you ought to drink two
25:29 glasses of warm water, and kind of thin the
25:32 blood out, the heart doesn't have to pump
25:34 so hard and doesn't. You know, what you're
25:36 saying is exactly right. When I worked in an
25:38 emergency department, most of the heart attacks,
25:40 7 to 11 AM, that's right. People coming in and the ambulance is
25:44 all heart attack, all dehydrated, that's
25:46 good advise. Hey, look you know. And then they
25:47 eat that big breakfast of bacon and eggs and
25:50 and fried biscuits or whatever you know,
25:53 and they end up in the emergency rooms, it's
25:54 good for the business of the hospital, but if
25:56 you wanna put the hospitals out of
25:57 business, drink that water. Hey, thank you,
26:00 so much for spending time to be with us,
26:02 you know, as the Health Ministries Director,
26:04 you trained people, those I want to mention those
26:08 summits again and they can always go to
26:10 plus line or they can go to the website
26:12 for the North American Division, and they can
26:14 figure out, what's happening, how they
26:16 can get trained. Could we just say, put
26:19 in a little plug about the Adventist
26:20 Health study two. I was gonna mention
26:22 that, yeah. Okay. Look, that's, that's
26:24 going on a lot of our members, we were and
26:27 trying very hard to, to get a 125,000
26:31 people. I don't know, where that's gonna be
26:33 when you see the program, but there is
26:35 always ongoing studies of Adventists because
26:37 of the benefits we see, and no matter when you
26:40 see this program, just you know, look on the
26:42 website, call the general conference,
26:44 call the little Linda school of health,
26:46 whatever and you could be above and doesn't
26:48 matter, if you're doing everything right,
26:50 does it. No, you can have, whatever your
26:52 lifestyle, that's how we compare.
26:53 You know, we've Adventist, who are,
26:56 who are not vegetarians, and we've some
26:58 Adventists who are vegans, and we've some
27:00 Adventists who only clean. Right.
27:02 And, so we've some Adventists who eat
27:04 anything. They've fallen off the wagon.
27:06 Fallen off the wagon and the only way we can
27:08 find out that is to compare. Right.
27:11 And, so we what and especially African-
27:13 American, we've a cohort of 45000 particularly
27:18 put into this new Adventist Health Study,
27:19 and we're not doing too well in getting the
27:21 the service return to us. So, if you've not signed
27:25 up, now it's the time to sign up. Hey thank
27:27 you, so much first of all for providing what
27:31 you do at the you know, division level for
27:35 health and beating the drum, but you know,
27:37 more importantly, as I talk with you, you,
27:39 you've taken the message that you preach and you
27:41 put into your own life. Thank you, very much,
27:43 it's a joy for me to be here.
27:44 And, we're glad that you've been here with
27:46 us and we're glad that you've been here with
27:48 us, and if you haven't become a part of that study,
27:50 become a part of it now, follow these
27:53 habits and I know, you'll have health that lasts
27:55 for a lifetime.


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