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Participants: Don Mckintosh (Host), David DeRose

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00:50 Hello and welcome to Health for a Lifetime.
00:52 Today we're going to talk about supplements.
00:54 There are many supplements out there.
00:56 Are they good?
00:57 Are they bad, useful?
01:00 We're going to talk to someone that has considered this for a
01:02 number of years, Dr. David DeRose.
01:04 He is a physician, he's practiced for over 20 years.
01:07 He has a specialty in internal medicine.
01:10 and also preventative medicine.
01:11 You've worked a various lifestyle centers, different
01:14 places around America and also some work internationally
01:18 You have a ministry called CompassHealth. net
01:23 So all points of the compass.
01:25 You cover all kinds of different things.
01:28 You have that website that has a lot the things we're going to
01:33 talk about and also a lot of other subjects right there
01:36 so people can take a closer look.
01:38 That's right.
01:39 There will be some overviews of the materials
01:40 that we cover today on the website as well as a lot
01:44 of other information that I know our viewers will enjoy.
01:47 There is no charge for any of those free resources.
01:50 Talk to us about supplements, nutritive supplements,
01:55 all different types of supplements.
01:56 You have stores full of them.
01:58 Are they good, are they bad?
01:59 Help us with this.
02:00 One of the ways I like to look at this is - you take a
02:05 supplement, you take a compound if you've got a deficiency of
02:10 of that compound.
02:11 What most people are doing today,
02:13 instead of having that philosophy, they're taking
02:17 the philosophy of "Well, I've heard this about something,
02:19 and I've heard that about something and then I'm
02:22 taking this as a result. "
02:23 I'm not going to say every supplement is used just for
02:26 deficiency but especially when we speak about basic nutrients
02:29 that's usually one of the first questions we want to ask.
02:32 So is there a deficiency and if there is then we look,
02:35 but if there's not - don't worry about it so much.
02:38 That's one approach.
02:39 Second thing, if you've got specific problems and there is
02:43 scientific rationale or a literature base that would say
02:46 this may respond to a certain supplement, then by all means
02:50 this may be worthy of consideration.
02:52 I wish we could take some calls today and have people
02:55 actually tell us about the different supplements they are
03:00 taking but we just polled those working in the studio
03:04 Some were taking multi-vitamins, some were taking glucosamine
03:08 some were taking... well various things we've heard.
03:11 So we might deal with some of those.
03:13 What should we beware of when we're looking at supplements?
03:16 The first thing to beware of, you mentioned multi-vitamins
03:19 and that's a combination product.
03:21 I don't have as big a problem with that.
03:25 We'll talk about multi-vitamins in a minute, but many companies
03:30 are out there trying to put together their proprietary
03:32 supplement.
03:34 This is true with multi-vitamins.
03:35 Everyone's got their special mix of things and they're trying to
03:40 promote varying degrees why you should buy theirs.
03:44 I'm always very concerned when someone is trying to promote
03:48 some proprietary blend of things and trying to charge people top
03:52 dollar for it.
03:53 So anytime it looks like they're trying to make money off
03:56 something - beware!
03:57 Well, let's be realistic.
03:59 There's going to be no supplement sold where
04:01 they're trying to loose money, right?
04:03 Probably, that's correct.
04:05 But here's the point.
04:06 Let's say you've got a specific problem - let's take arthritis.
04:10 Because you mentioned glucosamine chondroitin,
04:13 and whatever.
04:14 Well, what do you think the research shows of all the
04:18 supplements that are out there for arthritis, from my
04:21 perspective what I've seen out there, the most compelling
04:24 evidence suggests that glucosamine is helpful.
04:26 So if I stick a bunch of glucosamine in a pill
04:31 and also put some chondroitin, MSN, and some other things
04:35 I'm not saying any of those other things are not
04:38 helpful, but what I am saying is many times only one or a few
04:43 of the compounds in these multiple supplements may be
04:47 efficacious - helpful.
04:50 Actually helpful in doing what you want it to do.
04:53 So when I'm taking care of a patient, what I tend to do is
04:56 say, "Look you've got joint pain, let's look first of all
05:00 at why you've got the joint pain. "
05:02 Because if there is something you're doing...
05:06 Yes, like chopping 600 cords of wood a day!
05:10 That's right.
05:12 That could cause some joint pain.
05:14 And maybe you need to cut back to just 500! - laughter -
05:18 Or maybe you need to ice the joint after
05:21 doing all the chopping.
05:23 Yes, by the same token, if you weigh 500 pounds and you're
05:28 having knee pain...
05:29 I'm not saying that the chondroitin has no value.
05:33 But look at the big problem.
05:35 Look at the big problem and then it's fine to use the supplement.
05:38 By the way, of those supplements the glucosamine is the one
05:43 that seems to have the most beneficial effectiveness.
05:46 In fact, the studies I've seen it's the only one that really
05:49 has compelling data that I've seen.
05:51 I'm not going to tell you that I've seen every single study
05:54 done on these compounds but this has been a view of many in the
05:58 alternative, complimentary medicine area.
06:01 Glucosamine is really the supplement that seems to stand
06:05 head and shoulders above the others.
06:07 It's not to say there's no value to the others
06:09 but the chondroitin, since we mentioned it,
06:12 a lot of us are very worried about.
06:14 Some people say, "Well, sure DeRose is worried about it
06:19 because it's an animal product and he's this vegetarian.
06:22 Well, I was at a conference, probably five years ago now,
06:25 a high profile rheumatologist at one of these big medical centers
06:30 and she was sharing with this audience of ostensibly
06:36 non-vegetarians, even though I and my wife were there,
06:39 that she was worried about all the animal products
06:44 that were on the market because of the mad cow situation
06:48 and cattle that were being funneled in different direction,
06:52 she was worried about where chondroitin was coming from.
06:56 Now on your website compasshealth. net
07:01 do you have a list of things that you've researched?
07:04 That would be a very helpful list.
07:06 There's a number of subjects that we've researched now.
07:09 All the things that we're going to talk about, as far as
07:10 supplements, because this is kind of a free flowing dialogue,
07:13 will not necessarily be there.
07:15 But we've got a lot of information that covers a
07:17 variety of supplements and other conditions.
07:19 So you've seen some supplements that are efficacious, or they
07:23 have a good effect, and you've seen some that are not.
07:25 Like saw palmetto you say is helpful and so is
07:31 beta-sitosterol for working with prostate enlargement.
07:38 There is data that suggests that men who have prostate
07:42 enlargement that the saw palmetto appears to be
07:45 helpful for many of them.
07:46 Even more impressive from the data I've seen is a compound
07:50 called beta-sitosterol.
07:52 It's found in a number of plant products.
07:54 But this naturally occurring plant sterol actually has
08:00 cholesterol lowering properties as well as evidence that it can
08:03 actually help with prostate enlargement and symptoms
08:07 of prostate enlargement at least.
08:09 So whatever the claims, if they're trying to make a lot
08:11 of money and say theirs is the best - always take that
08:13 with a grain of salt or beware.
08:16 And then secondly, you're not saying that all are bad
08:18 but look at the major problem first
08:20 before you go to a supplement.
08:21 Yes, and look at the specific constituents of the supplement.
08:25 Like I'm saying, if there's good data out there that
08:28 seems to suggest that saw palmetto may be helpful
08:30 try the saw palmetto for a period of time and ideally do it
08:35 working with your physician.
08:36 More and more physicians are open to incorporate some of
08:41 these complimentary therapies because their patients
08:43 are using it.
08:44 They've got to do it, they've got to get interested in it,
08:47 and medical education is encouraging physicians to
08:52 at least ask their patients about these things because
08:55 the other big issue, we've got to admit it, is these
08:59 supplements can interact with other medications
09:02 that people are taking.
09:03 And there are some that are actually dangerous.
09:05 You say on your website that excess selenium can be a real
09:09 problem and then others as well.
09:11 Selenium is a good example.
09:13 We need selenium, which is a micro nutrient for optimal
09:17 immune function.
09:18 In many people's minds the old adage, a little is good
09:23 a lot is better, but the problem with selenium
09:26 is when you take excessive amounts it tends to suppress
09:29 immune function.
09:30 Another example is vitamin B6.
09:33 Vitamin B6 also known as pyridoxamine.
09:37 If you're pyridoxamine deficient you can get a
09:40 neuropathy.
09:41 You can have nerve problems.
09:42 So it's good to have enough of it?
09:43 It's good to have enough.
09:44 But if you take too much, you know what you can get?
09:46 Same thing - neuropathy.
09:48 You're exactly right.
09:50 You can get a neuropathy from too much.
09:52 Too much or too little?
09:53 Too little.
09:54 So just let the body regulate it and don't you
09:55 mess around with it?
09:56 Well, yes, that's great if you've got the good diet
10:02 that you're on, Don.
10:03 I can say that to you because I had lunch with you today
10:07 and saw what you ate.
10:08 Yes, and it was pretty good!
10:09 It was.
10:10 It's what you had too!
10:11 But a lot of people should.
10:13 They're not getting a balanced diet so the
10:15 knee-jerk response is what?
10:17 Take a little bit more.
10:19 Take a multi-vitamin.
10:21 And what I would suggest is what we're leaning is that's
10:24 a dangerous strategy to follow.
10:27 Because more and more things that we have listed on those
10:29 multi-vitamins we're getting concerned about.
10:31 Let me give you a good example is the Vitamin A compounds.
10:33 Vitamin A because they are not water soluble?
10:36 They're not water soluble, that's true.
10:38 They don't just pass through the system.
10:40 But there's a bigger problem.
10:42 When we look at Vitamin A, the pre form Vitamin A, the form
10:48 that the body uses, or you look at beta-carotene, which is what
10:51 we call a precursor, it's something the body converts into
10:53 active Vitamin A, with either of those compounds,
10:57 did look at some of the initial work on cancer.
11:02 When we look at that as a medical community we saw the
11:05 people were eating more beta-carotene had less cancer.
11:10 So what was the thought?
11:12 The thought was more is good.
11:14 So they did some actual clinical studies where they gave people
11:17 with high risk of cancer, like smokers, they gave them extra
11:20 beta-carotene.
11:22 By in large, you know what happened?
11:23 They got more cancer.
11:26 Because?
11:27 What appears to be happening is beta-carotene is one of this
11:31 family of retinoid.
11:32 One in this family of compounds.
11:34 When you just take one, it overwhelms the body's ability
11:38 to utilize a whole host of other good, related compounds.
11:42 Like zeoxanthin, lutein, lycopene, and number of these
11:48 other compounds that are very helpful to the body.
11:50 So if you're overdoing it on one thing it decreases the ability
11:54 for the body to use other things that really needs to
11:57 fight off cancer.
11:58 That's exactly right and we've seen this if you look at
12:01 drug and nutrient interactions and if you look at
12:04 nutrient and nutrient interactions.
12:06 You start increasing one thing and you increase your
12:08 requirements for something else or you totally overwhelm the
12:12 body's ability to use things of that compound.
12:14 Because of the interaction?
12:15 That's right.
12:16 The analogy that I like, Don, is you got here to 3ABN
12:21 partly by driving on the freeway didn't you?
12:24 Yes, I try to stay on it most of the time.
12:26 While you were driving on that freeway that freeway has a
12:31 finite capacity.
12:32 In other words, maybe holiday week ends and things in some
12:37 places as you're going through major cities on those
12:39 interstates you may be bumper to bumper and may be
12:41 even stopping, is that right?
12:43 Unfortunately, that's correct.
12:45 So the freeways in our nation can only accommodate
12:49 so much traffic.
12:50 It's the same with the transport mechanisms in the body.
12:54 So when I look at people's supplements it's amazing
12:57 because they're saying, "I'm taking this pill for my joints,
13:01 this one for my cholesterol, this one for my diabetes,
13:06 this one to put more hair on my head," - by the way that's one
13:09 I'm not using, Don, if you were wondering! - laughter -
13:12 So you've got all these supplements.
13:14 I look at these supplements...
13:15 Not enough room on the highway for all of them.
13:19 I go down the list and this one has 10,000 units of
13:23 beta-carotene and this one has 20,000, and you add all
13:26 this stuff up and they're getting all kinds of stuff
13:29 that they're not even aware of.
13:30 They thought, "Well, I just was taking this for my joints. "
13:32 So, what the point of all this is,
13:35 we've got to look at what we're doing.
13:38 If you've got a problem, talk with your doctor, get the
13:42 information, read up about it, go to my website, whatever it
13:45 is you're going to do, get the different information sources
13:48 you can, tap into them and say what is a reasonable strategy
13:51 ideally that I can plan together with my
13:54 health care professional?
13:56 Less is more.
13:57 Less is often more.
13:58 We're talking with Dr. David DeRose.
14:01 We're talking about supplements.
14:02 The analogy he just gave of a freeway is an apt one.
14:05 Maybe it would be good for you to get out your list of
14:08 supplements and write them down and in the second half of the
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15:16 Welcome back.
15:17 We've been talking with Dr. David DeRose about
15:19 supplements.
15:20 He closed by giving us an illustration of having
15:23 so many cars on the freeway or maybe like juggling.
15:26 You can only juggle so many things and if you add
15:28 more and more supplements you may not have room for the
15:32 very needful things your body requires to fight off disease
15:35 and to keep your immune system healthy.
15:37 Is this an ok way to summarize what we've been saying?
15:40 I think it's great because the idea is God has given us certain
15:44 capacities.
15:45 He's given us insights on how to care for our bodies.
15:49 It's in His Word, it comes from an understanding and enlightened
15:52 spiritually directed understanding of physiology.
15:55 We tend to short circuit to try to take shortcuts and we really
16:01 end up getting short circuits that cause problems.
16:05 So these general lifestyle principles many times people
16:09 want to hear good news about their bad habits.
16:11 If they can be over weight and just take a couple pills
16:15 and feel like they're better they probably want to do that.
16:17 Have you ever encountered that?
16:19 Of course.
16:22 People are always looking for some easy way out.
16:25 Since we are talking about over weight, I just want to make
16:27 sure that our viewers don't get the wrong idea in that
16:31 illustration I shared earlier in the program
16:34 about the 500 pound individual who's got arthritis.
16:40 I don't tell someone, "Look we're not going to help you
16:44 until you loose 300 pounds. "
16:46 "We're not going to give you any medication, supplements,
16:50 or do anything for you. "
16:51 Here's what I'm getting at, look at it this way.
16:53 If someone is not focused on the underlying problem, then I
17:01 am not really helping them address the problem if I'm
17:04 just giving them a drug or a supplement.
17:07 Now let me say it this way.
17:08 The American public, as well as the public at large in the world
17:14 is recognizing that medications are often not all they've been
17:19 cracked up to be, right?
17:21 Yes, they're starting to get a grip on that.
17:23 Yes, we're getting a grip on it and people are gravitating
17:25 away from them and often times what they're gravitating to are
17:29 supplements because they're "natural. "
17:32 But there's problems there too.
17:33 There are problems there too.
17:35 We've talked about some of the things that can be problems
17:37 in excess but even more so if something's not helping you
17:41 and it's doing you no good, why take it?
17:44 Let me tell you about a woman who talked to me recently.
17:47 We'll call her Harriet, of course it's not her real name,
17:49 5'2" tall, weighed about 215 pounds.
17:53 That's a little high.
17:54 It is a little high.
17:55 But you know what her problems were?
17:57 The problem was being over weight.
18:00 That's one of her problems.
18:02 She had high blood pressure.
18:03 She had cholesterol problems.
18:05 She had a family history of breast cancer that she was
18:08 concerned about.
18:09 And when I talked with her she was taking like 50 to 100
18:13 supplements to address these concerns.
18:15 Whoa, what else did she do during the day?
18:16 That's quite a supplement!
18:19 And she wanted to go through each of them with me.
18:23 Actually I was interested to do it because what I realized was
18:28 going on she was focusing all her energy
18:31 to try to figure out... she couldn't even figure out
18:33 all that she was taking.
18:34 They say it's an extreme case but she was not focused
18:37 on a good exercise program or weight reduction program
18:41 which would have lowered her risk of breast cancer.
18:44 It would have lowered her cholesterol.
18:46 It would have helped her address her diabetes and
18:48 blood pressure problem.
18:49 She must have brought a suitcase.
18:52 Well, you see the point, Don.
18:53 We're trying to have this balance.
18:56 So, on one hand, yes,
18:58 Supplements have a role if they're prescribed for a
19:02 specific reason where there is some compelling medical evidence
19:05 at least some compelling medical theory, there's some support
19:09 for it, or there's an actual deficiency.
19:11 If not, you're asking for trouble.
19:13 If nothing more than depleting your bank account could be
19:17 something much, much worse.
19:18 So let's talk about some of these supplements.
19:20 What about, you said glucosamine is good for
19:23 osteoarthritis?
19:24 There is evidence that glucosamine is definitely
19:26 helpful in osteoarthritis.
19:28 I mentioned Harriet, just an interesting aside, she was
19:33 making sure her brother was taking not only glucosamine
19:37 but chondroitin and a bunch of other things purported
19:41 to have joint benefit and it turned out her brother didn't
19:45 have any joint symptoms.
19:47 So it doesn't do any good to take something
19:49 if you don't need it.
19:50 There's no rationale to do that because that's not
19:53 something that's been looked at and it doesn't even make
19:56 sense to treat a problem that's not there.
20:00 These are not things that generally speak about doing
20:02 prophylactic.
20:03 I'll give you an example though.
20:04 Prophylactic or preventive - one that there is some evidence for
20:07 is garlic.
20:08 Low dose garlic actually has been shown to decrease the risk
20:13 of developing colds - taking some garlic on a daily basis.
20:16 So garlic supplements are ok?
20:18 In that context.
20:21 If you were just on a plane flight and you were up all night
20:25 and you didn't get enough sleep.
20:26 Can you imagine a scenario like that?
20:28 And you said, "You know there were all these people coughing
20:31 on the plane, I think I'm going to take a couple
20:33 garlic capsules this morning. "
20:35 Slam of few of them back.
20:36 There's some rationale for doing that.
20:39 But to take 2 garlics the rest of your life and especially if
20:43 you're on blood thinning medications the garlic
20:45 may tip the balance against them.
20:47 This is an excellent place to speak about drug interactions
20:50 if you want to go that direction.
20:51 Let's go that direction.
20:52 What about drug interactions?
20:54 Well, drug interactions are very important and they're
20:56 especially critical with drugs with a
20:59 narrow therapeutic window.
21:01 Meaning?
21:02 Good question.
21:03 Therapeutic window - you've got windows in your house
21:06 right?
21:07 A few.
21:08 I was actually in a house the other day that had no windows
21:11 in one of their main rooms.
21:12 It was another building that had been converted into a home.
21:15 Interesting isn't it?
21:17 But this house actually that I'm speaking about, my house or
21:22 your house has a window.
21:23 And that window can only open so far, right?
21:27 Have you ever been in a house, maybe you have one yourself,
21:28 that has like a little half size window that you can open just
21:31 a little way?
21:32 Yes, in the bathroom.
21:34 So this window opens up just a little bit.
21:36 You can't get much through it can you?
21:40 There isn't much room to play with.
21:41 Well, we use that term, I know you know this being a health
21:45 professional, but for the benefit of our listeners,
21:48 narrow therapeutic window means there's not much room to get
21:51 access of a drug or too little of a drug.
21:54 Take an example.
21:56 A blood thinner like Coumadin, you get too little it's not
22:00 going to do the job of preventing the stroke,
22:03 the blood clot, or the mechanical heart valve
22:07 it's not going to keep it from clogging up - right? -
22:09 if you get too little.
22:10 If you get too much, what's going to happen?
22:12 It's going to cause too much thinning.
22:15 That's right and you could bleed to death - right? -
22:17 in extreme situations.
22:19 So it needs had within that narrow window, right?
22:20 Yes, so drugs with a narrow therapeutic window, if you're
22:23 taking one of those, if you're taking Linoxin, a drug for HIV,
22:27 a blood thinner, if you've had a kidney or liver transplant,
22:31 if you're taking any of these critical drugs that have to be
22:33 kept in a narrow range - do NOT start taking a supplement
22:38 unless you talk with your physician.
22:40 Because even some of these "good supplements" - I've given
22:43 you an example: garlic does have some benefits in the
22:46 anti-infectious arena.
22:49 But if you're also on Coumadin that may not be the thing
22:52 that you should be taking.
22:53 So talk with someone who knows how all these things interact.
22:56 Especially if you're on some of these critical drugs that
22:59 operate in a narrow range.
23:00 Now that's not the majority of drugs but I've given you some
23:02 examples and if you've got a question, ask your doctor
23:05 if this drug is very critical in the range that it operates in.
23:10 What about barley greens and all those derivatives that are
23:13 supposedly high in these green parts of the plants?
23:16 Well, you know plants are loaded with phytochemicals and these
23:20 are plant chemicals.
23:21 Many of these plant chemicals have health giving properties.
23:25 I don't feel any burden to say there's no value in these things
23:31 because there is some value.
23:32 But the question is, why is the person taking it, what is it
23:36 doing for them, and are there better ways to
23:40 accomplish the same end?
23:41 If they say, "I like barley green, I like how it tastes,
23:44 I like how it looks," you know whatever it is,
23:47 "I've been feeling better since I've been taking it. "
23:50 I do not have a great burden to say they can't use that.
23:53 But by the same token, if someone under false pretences
23:59 uses a pretext to get me to speak at a
24:02 barley green convention - it actually happened to me once -
24:04 Did you go?
24:05 I didn't know it was a barley green convention!
24:08 They lined me up for an out-of-town presentation
24:12 and I turn up at the big Barley Green Conference.
24:17 I'm their keynote speaker.
24:18 Whoa!
24:19 Yes!
24:20 Did they give you a green jacket?
24:21 - laughter - No, but Don, here's what's going on.
24:26 We're trying to market all these products when really
24:31 what we most need is to eat more fruits, whole grains, and
24:36 vegetables.
24:37 Look at it this way.
24:38 Think about it for a minute.
24:39 I don't know what's in barley green.
24:40 I don't have the whole list in front of me.
24:43 I've seen lists before and what's in it.
24:46 I can't recite it for you right now.
24:48 But you know what?
24:49 No matter what's in barley green there's a bunch of other hot
24:53 plant compounds.
24:54 They're not hot now but they will be next year
24:56 or the year after.
24:57 Better go to those conventions too
24:58 if you get on that band wagon.
25:00 That's right, but you know what's even better?
25:01 Why not start eating the variety of plant foods
25:06 that God's given us?
25:07 You know what one of the hot compounds is today?
25:09 I have no idea.
25:10 Lycopene.
25:11 Oh, I have heard about it.
25:13 Lutein...
25:14 pentothal?
25:15 You know what?
25:16 Just take the example of lycopene.
25:19 It's good for prostate health for example.
25:21 Do you know what?
25:23 Before lycopene was delivered you know what my grandfather
25:27 was doing?
25:28 He was eating lycopene.
25:29 He was.
25:30 He was born in Italy.
25:31 He was eating lots of tomato products and he never had a
25:34 prostate problem.
25:35 Now just what would have happened if he had focused
25:39 on getting all his nutrients from supplements?
25:41 It wouldn't have worked.
25:43 So you can't really recapture the fountain of youth either.
25:46 That's something people sometimes try and say.
25:49 One more classic example.
25:53 This just comes to mind.
25:54 I was a medical student years ago.
25:57 I actually had hair back then!
25:59 Don't look so astonished! - laughter -
26:03 I might have recognized you! - laughter -
26:05 You may have recognized me.
26:06 I was doing some health screening with the team.
26:10 We found this interesting fellow.
26:11 He did worse on the stress test than the 80 year old women
26:16 were doing.
26:17 He was in his 40's.
26:18 When we sat this guy down and started to counsel with him
26:21 he started telling us, "But I'm very conscientious
26:23 about my health. "
26:24 He started going down the list of all the
26:26 supplements he was taking.
26:27 You see the point.
26:28 He didn't do the basics.
26:30 He was depending on the bottles instead of the basics.
26:34 That's right.
26:35 So the message then today is there is some benefits
26:38 to many of these different things
26:40 but don't forget the basics and then if there is some kind of
26:44 deficiency then it's viable to fill it.
26:47 But don't add too much to the plate and all those different
26:50 things we talked about.
26:51 I don't think you needed this presentation.
26:53 you've got it all figured out. - laughter -
26:54 Well, thank you for what you have done on the website
26:57 Thank you for the supporting material here.
26:59 If people have questions they can look at this on the website
27:02 there - compasshealth. net
27:03 And thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule
27:07 to spend a little time with us here on Health for a Lifetime.
27:11 And thank you for joining us on Health for a Lifetime
27:13 Look, you can take stock now.
27:15 Take out that list.
27:16 Take out your pad of paper and your pencil, write down all your
27:19 supplements that you may be taking or others are taking.
27:22 Ask yourself the question, Do I really need these?
27:25 Or am I doing the basics?
27:27 Go to Dr. De Rose's website compasshealth. net
27:31 Look up the supporting materials there and do the very minimum
27:38 in terms of supplements.
27:39 Do the basics first and then if you need something
27:42 of course there's all kinds of things you could look at.
27:45 Be careful about your decisions and we hope you have health
27:49 that lasts for a lifetime.


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