Participants: Don Mckintosh (Host), Tim Lawton
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000161
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00:50 Hello and welcome to "Health for a Lifetime"
00:51 I'm your host Don Mackintosh 00:53 and we're glad you've joined us today... 00:54 And today, we're going to be talking about another 00:58 disease that plagues many and especially Western countries 01:01 But now going around the world as well as people 01:05 adopt the Western lifestyle and that's diabetes. 01:08 And here to talk with us about diabetes is Dr. Timothy Lawton. 01:11 He is a physician in Wichita, Kansas 01:14 and he specializes in lifestyle medicine. 01:17 He is a member of the "American College of Lifestyle Medicine" 01:21 And he also has practiced for about 10 years. 01:25 Welcome to the program! Thank you, Don 01:27 And, we're going to be talking today about diabetes. 01:30 Let's just get right into that... 01:31 That's a huge problem... you're telling me some fascinating 01:34 statistics about the magnitude of the problem. 01:37 It's growing and growing 01:39 exponentially here in the United States. 01:41 That's why they call it an epidemic. 01:42 The definition of an epidemic is something that is occurring 01:46 more frequently... more often than you would expect. 01:50 So that the numbers in the U.S. 01:53 it's currently the #5 cause of death that's expected 01:56 to be the #1 cause of death by 2010. 02:00 So it's just continuing to get worse and worse and worse... 02:04 Why are so many people getting diabetes? 02:07 There's a VERY, very strong connection with obesity 02:10 ...also inactivity 02:12 Those are the 2 biggest factors that we relate to diabetes. 02:16 So Americans and those in Western nations are getting 02:18 bigger, and diabetes is one of the things that comes with that. 02:21 And you know what Don... This is really a GLOBAL epidemic 02:25 It's not just confined to the U.S. 02:28 It's estimated that the majority of diabetes cases in the world 02:33 over the next 10 or 20 years, 02:35 are actually going to be in China and India. 02:38 And is this because they're following the example of 02:41 the Western nations in what they're eating? 02:44 As we export our food and our labor-saving devices 02:49 and transportation, more people are getting automobiles 02:51 and so on... What about children? 02:55 Big... you know this is something that kind of 02:59 leads into the next concept. 03:00 There has traditionally been 2 kinds of diabetes that 03:04 we've recognized over the years... type 1 and type 2 03:07 We used to call them... "juvenile onset" which was 03:11 type 1 diabetes and "adult onset" which is type 2 03:14 which has more to do with the lack of physical activity, 03:18 and increasing obesity. 03:20 But now that children are getting less and less 03:23 physical activity, we are seeing the ADULT onset 03:27 type of diabetes occurring in children... the type 2. 03:31 Now in your practice, in your lifestyle medicine center, 03:35 "vitae" means "life" I guess, in Latin... 03:37 Do you have any young people, or children that 03:41 come in to the clinic? 03:44 We have some that are on the verge of developing diabetes. 03:49 And this is a huge problem, I know, across Kansas... 03:53 and of course around the world. 03:54 I mean, I've listened to folks just talking about this. 03:58 Well, let's look a little closer 04:00 at what the definition would be... 04:02 What would be the definition you'd give us for 04:05 someone who is a diabetic? How can you tell? 04:08 Well, we use the medical definition. 04:10 And there's a medical definition that's defined as 04:14 normal blood sugar... 04:18 First of all, normal fasting blood sugar 04:20 when you've had nothing to eat for at least 8 hours is 70-99 04:24 and that's a very narrow range; the body tries to keep that. 04:28 There's a gray zone, the in-between zone 04:31 called "prediabetes" which is 100-125 fasting. 04:36 And then the actual medical definition of diabetes 04:38 comes when you get to over 125 on 2 separate occasions 04:44 And those numbers are amount of sugar per blood... 04:48 or something 70-99... 04:49 Yeah, it's a milligram percent measurement, 04:52 but that's what's measured either with a blood sample 04:56 from the vein, or finger stick blood sugar. 04:58 Now do they have different ways of measuring this 04:59 around the world? 05:01 You know, I think they have different numbers or something 05:04 but that's the American system 70-99 and all that? 05:07 Well, this is the global system, yeah. 05:12 So, you can get that tested by your physician... 05:16 They do a blood draw and they can do all those 05:19 tests if you have any question. 05:20 Any other ways to tell whether or not you have diabetes? 05:23 Let's say you're in a country and you didn't have that... 05:25 you know, that opportunity to have a blood test. 05:28 Well, we often look at the signs and symptoms of diabetes. 05:32 Classically, people who have increased urination, 05:38 and increased thirst, unexplained fatigue, 05:42 sores or wounds that don't heal, 05:45 these can be signs related to diabetes. 05:47 So, if someone has one of those symptoms, 05:49 they should be seen by a doctor to get their blood sugar checked 05:52 Is this something that people just have to roll over and say 05:59 "I'm going to get diabetes because it's increasing" 06:02 Well, this is something that is 06:05 the tragedy but also the good news is that 06:08 diabetes is almost entirely preventable... 06:11 And I mean the type 2 diabetes; that is related to lifestyle. 06:15 ...95% of the cases of diabetes in the world and the U.S. 06:21 are the adult onset, or the type 2 lifestyle diabetes. Okay 06:26 The type 1 is a different kind of diabetes, 06:34 and the main difference in type 1 diabetes 06:37 is the body doesn't make any insulin. 06:40 So you NEED to have insulin shots with type 1 diabetes. 06:44 Type 2 diabetes, the body makes insulin, 06:47 and often it makes more insulin than a normal person. 06:50 It's just that the cells in the body are resistant to insulin. 06:55 That means the insulin that's there ISN'T getting that 06:58 blood sugar to go into the cells. 07:01 And I think you have a graphic that's looking at 07:03 preventability, or the fact that the majority of this 07:07 is preventable. 07:08 ...91%, according to one very large study... 07:12 This was a study called the "Nurses Health Study" 07:14 They followed 85,000 nurses for 16 years, 07:18 and they concluded that... 07:24 Wow, so... That's incredible! 07:26 Imagine if we could eliminate 90% of the cases of diabetes 07:31 in the country. 07:32 This is dependent on decisions and choices, 07:36 and going against the tastes and habits 07:39 that people have developed. 07:41 You know, since diabetes is such a big epidemic right now, 07:46 there's been a lot of interest in new drugs for diabetes. 07:49 But which is better... drugs or lifestyle? 07:51 Well, there's a study that addressed that... 07:54 They looked at 3,000 individuals and followed them for 3 years. 07:58 And the conclusion of this study showed, 08:02 that diabetes was more effectively prevented 08:06 with lifestyle interventions than with the drug intervention. 08:11 Again, I think you have a graphic on this, don't you... 08:13 Yeah, the lifestyle intervention that they used, Don, was not 08:18 terribly difficult. Here's the graphic... 08:22 It says 31% fewer cases of new onset diabetes 08:27 with the medication; 58% with the lifestyle intervention. 08:31 Significantly different! Yes 08:33 The lifestyle intervention was to lose 7% of 08:36 excess body weight... if they were overweight, 08:39 and to exercise moderately for 150 minutes a week. 08:44 ...150 minutes a week is less than 30 minutes a day. 08:47 It really is very doable. 08:50 Very doable... you know, let me ask you a question... 08:53 Drugs versus lifestyle... What kind of drugs do they take 09:01 and I want to talk about the lifestyle. 09:04 I mean, that's what you specialize in... but 09:06 Well, let's talk about the alternative. 09:07 Every patient has a choice... 09:09 You can take the drugs for sure, 09:12 but if you look at simply the cost of drugs, 09:15 and, of course, some of the side effects, 09:16 your typical diabetic may be on 09:19 $400 or 500 worth of drugs a month. 09:22 1, 2 or 3 drugs to control their blood sugar, 09:25 1 or 2 drugs for their cholesterol, 09:27 1, 2 or 3 drugs for their blood pressure... 09:29 Can you imagine how quickly that adds up, 09:32 plus the risk of the side effects... 09:36 You gotta do the lifestyle even if you're on drugs. 09:39 And then, of course, many people watching may be in 09:42 parts of the world that they simply don't have the drugs 09:45 available... they don't have that option, 09:48 so lifestyle, again, is going to be the answer for them. 09:51 Let's look at some of those things in lifestyle that 09:53 we can do to PREVENT, and maybe perhaps, 09:57 would it be fair to say, STOP or REVERSE diabetes? 10:00 That's good... Before we do that, 10:03 there's a graphic on... I have a picture of a cell... 10:06 Let's look at that... understanding what is going 10:08 on with this concept of insulin resistance... Okay 10:12 This blue circle represents a cell, 10:15 and the G's represent glucose, and the "I" represents insulin. 10:18 Now this cell here, because we've been overfeeding 10:24 the body, because we've been putting in foods that are 10:27 too sugary in general, and sometimes too fatty, 10:31 the cell has got a full charge! 10:34 It's got all the glucose, all the sugar and energy it needs. 10:38 And that little brown rectangle there, 10:40 that's the door on that cell. 10:41 That's the door that insulin is supposed to be able to open. 10:44 But when the cell is full, it's kind of like your elevator. 10:46 If your elevator is full, no matter if the door is open, 10:49 you can't get anyone else in. 10:50 So you gotta open up the door and get rid of some of that 10:55 sugar that's filling it up. 10:58 So the problem is, you know, the pancreas, I guess is 11:01 secreting more and more insulin, but it just can't get in. 11:04 You know... the room is full. 11:05 So how is it that we open the door again? 11:08 Well, you can do it very quickly through a therapeutic fast... 11:14 which, if you're on insulin, or medications, 11:17 you need to do that under medical supervision 11:18 and check your blood sugar. 11:20 You can do it more slowly with increasing 11:23 your physical activity, and making some 11:25 fairly significant dietary changes. 11:28 Actually, more slowly, you can probably do it in a 11:32 matter of days to weeks, with some 11:34 pretty dramatic nutritional changes as well. 11:37 And this is the kind of thing you do with 11:38 diabetics at "Vitae Health"... Right-right 11:41 Some people, we will have on the medically-supervised fast, 11:45 usually for 3 days. 11:47 It doesn't need to be a horribly long period of time. 11:50 The other thing that we focus on 11:52 is the physical activity and weight loss. 11:56 You know, even this one study showed 7% weight loss 12:01 15% weight loss can make a huge difference. 12:05 You don't need to lose 100 pounds 12:07 to improve your blood sugar control. 12:08 ...20 pounds can make a big difference. 12:11 So weight loss through... what mechanisms? 12:14 ...exercise? Burning off more calories 12:17 than you take in... Not through amputation, right? 12:20 Funny you should say that... 12:22 You know liposuction... you could take 20-30 pounds 12:25 off with liposuction, but it's not the insulating fat 12:30 that's important for diabetes... 12:32 It's what's inside under your abdominal wall. 12:36 It's the fat that surrounds your organs, 12:38 it surrounds your liver, your intestines, your kidneys... 12:42 It's the internal fat that makes a difference. 12:44 They actually have done studies where they've had people 12:46 with diabetes, and they have them get liposuction... 12:49 They weigh 30 pounds less... 12:51 But they still have diabetes. 12:53 Hasn't changed a thing metabolically. 12:56 Wow, it's fascinating... so it's the insular fat 12:59 around the organs and internally Yeah, it's visceral... 13:02 meaning around the organs. 13:05 And the reason why losing, you know, 15% of your weight, 13:08 or 15 or 20 pounds makes a difference, 13:11 it's that visceral fat that is starting to come off. 13:14 You might not LOOK a lot different with your 13:16 layer of insulation, BUT you've reduced your visceral fat 13:21 and you've improved your metabolic control of diabetes 13:24 and cholesterol and other things... Fascinating 13:26 We're talking with Dr. Timothy Lawton 13:28 We're talking about diabetes. 13:29 It's a huge problem in America. 13:31 It's going to be the #1 cause of death and disease 13:34 in just a number of years unless something is done. 13:37 We hope that's not the case in your life if you have a 13:40 family history of diabetes, or if you know someone 13:42 in your family that has diabetes or a friend, 13:44 this is the program for you. 13:46 When we come back, we're going to be looking 13:47 more specifically at what can be done to STOP, 13:52 prevent... perhaps even reverse diabetes if you have it 13:55 so join us when we come back. 13:59 Have you found yourself wishing that you could shed a few pounds 14:02 Have you been on a diet for most of your life... 14:05 but not found anything that will really keep the weight off? 14:08 If you've answered "yes" to any of these questions, 14:11 then we have a solution for you that works! 14:14 Dr. Hans Diehl and Dr. Aileen Ludington 14:16 have written a marvelous booklet called... 14:18 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 14:20 and we'd like to send it to you free of charge. 14:23 Here's a medically sound approach successfully used 14:26 by thousands who were able to eat more and lose weight 14:29 permanently without feeling guilty or hungry 14:32 through lifestyle medicine. 14:34 Dr. Diehl and Dr. Ludington have been featured on 3ABN 14:37 and in this booklet, they present a sensible approach 14:40 to eating, nutrition, and lifestyle changes 14:43 that can help you prevent heart disease, diabetes 14:45 and EVEN cancer. 14:47 Call or write today for your 14:48 free copy of "REVERSING OBESITY NATURALLY" 14:51 and you could be on your way to a healthier, happier YOU! 14:54 It's absolutely free of charge. 14:56 So call or write today! 15:00 Welcome back! We're talking with Dr. Timothy Lawton... 15:02 He's a physician in Wichita, Kansas 15:05 He focuses on lifestyle medicine, 15:07 and what he has discovered, and MANY are discovering, 15:10 is that medication and traditional medicine alone... 15:13 while very helpful, many times is not addressing... 15:16 really, the building blocks of disease... 15:20 And we're talking about diabetes today, 15:22 and Dr. Lawton has brought to our attention that 15:25 there are really things you can do, 15:27 put you in the driver's seat, so you can stop, prevent, 15:30 the best is to prevent or avoid diabetes which is a huge concern 15:35 You actually run a lifestyle center... "Vitae Health" there 15:38 "Vitae Medical Center" it's called, right? 15:42 We call it "Lifestyle Medical Center" 15:44 because our foundation, our emphasis is really 15:46 on the lifestyle factors. 15:48 We WILL use medication if need be... 15:52 but our goal is really to get people more in control 15:54 of their health through lifestyle factors that they can 15:57 control themselves, and reduce their burden of medication. 16:01 So "Vitae" which means life, and then... 16:04 "Lifestyle Medical Center" Okay, that's great! 16:07 So in other words, you have the BEST of 2 worlds hopefully. 16:09 That's the goal, yes. 16:11 All right... and when you're dealing with the diabetic, 16:14 you know, it's a huge problem, 16:17 and let's just summarize what you've said... 16:18 First of all, you don't necessarily have to develop 16:22 type 2 diabetes... sometimes type 1 16:26 people just develop that for whatever reason... 16:30 But, what have we said so far are approaches to, you know, 16:35 PREVENTING or perhaps even reversing if someone has it? 16:39 All right, just to summarize... 16:42 There was a large study that showed that the majority, 16:46 over 90% of new cases of type 2 diabetes 16:49 were related to lifestyle and diet. 16:51 Imagine if we had 90% fewer cases of diabetes... Wow 16:55 The epidemic would be gone! 16:56 And it really tells us where we need to focus our energy, 17:00 because it's SO expensive to treat diabetes. 17:04 It's so much more LOGICAL to just prevent. 17:08 The other thing we talked about is losing weight... 17:12 even 15 or 20 pounds can make a SIGNIFICANT difference 17:15 in improving blood sugar control or REDUCING one's risk. 17:21 Okay, let's continue on then... 17:22 You're going to talk to us about FOODS! 17:25 There's a measurement called the "glycemic index" 17:32 and this is a newly emerging approach to helping patients 17:35 manage their blood sugar. 17:39 When you look at the concept of the glycemic index, 17:43 it refers to how quickly a food will raise your blood sugar, 17:48 and what we really want to do is keep the blood sugar stable 17:52 as long as possible... 17:53 Let's just give the example of breakfast... Okay 17:56 I could eat a high glycemic breakfast, 17:59 and high glycemic foods are typically going to be 18:03 the refined and processed foods, as opposed to the 18:06 foods that grow in nature. 18:08 But, for breakfast, let's say I'm going to be good... 18:11 I'm going to have a bowl of Cheerios... 18:13 Now, I've read that that's a low sugar food 18:15 but that oat flour has been highly processed. 18:19 It's VERY small particles. 18:21 It's going to do about the same for me as a 18:24 bowl of Froot Loops, a can of Coke... those sorts of 18:27 high glycemic foods, and my blood sugar will go WAY UP 18:30 for a short period of time, then will come crashing down 18:32 I'll be hungry again by 9:30 or 10:00 in the morning... 18:36 because there's nothing to sustain me. 18:39 So instead of having the Cheerios, you would have what? 18:42 Say... I make myself a bowl of hot porridge, 18:44 maybe some oatmeal, maybe a 9-grain mix... 18:47 That is in it's whole form, it's going to give me energy 18:52 over several hours... 3-4 hours or so before I 18:56 start to lose the effect of that meal. 18:59 The same thing with juice versus fruit? 19:01 Exactly, the whole fruit... In fact, the orange 19:06 is one of the most sustaining fruits that we have... 19:09 apples and oranges, surprisingly... 19:11 although we think of them as being sugary, 19:12 they actually have quite a bit of staying POWER! 19:15 When we eat the orange, as opposed to the orange juice, 19:18 or the apple as opposed to the apple juice, 19:20 we get a longer, you know, more stable blood sugar... 19:27 This is especially important even if you ARE a diabetic... 19:30 You want to keep those stable if at all possible, I'm sure. 19:33 Even if you're not, I just think about trying to keep 19:36 MAXIMUM energy, maximum focus, and clarity of mind 19:39 throughout the day by eating low glycemic foods. 19:42 Let me go through a couple of foods... 19:43 What about white potatoes? 19:44 Now, white potatoes are about the only exception... 19:47 They are moderate-to-high glycemic levels, which means 19:52 white rice, white bread... these white foods 19:55 are going to tend to have a higher glycemic index, 19:58 and tend to shoot your blood sugar way UP and then 20:01 you come crashing down shortly later. 20:03 Corn? Corn is kind of moderate. 20:05 It's really not too much of a concern. 20:10 Carrots? Carrots, although some people 20:13 thought they are one of the sugary, starchy vegetables, 20:16 they really are a low glycemic food. 20:19 What about raisins versus grapes? 20:22 You take a cup of grapes, and you take out all the water, 20:28 and you're left with just the sugar condensed... 20:31 So grapes have a low glycemic index. 20:34 Raisins have a very HIGH glycemic index. 20:37 So it's better to have, like some kind of whole grain cereal 20:40 with grapes, rather than... Raisin Bran 20:43 Berries are one of the LOWEST. Berries? 20:46 I will often... if I make a bowl, I'll put on some 20:49 blueberries, or something like that. 20:51 The RAISINS though, let's talk about the glycemic load 20:55 is the concept of when you take ALL the food at that meal. 20:59 Let's say you want to have that stir-fry... 21:02 and you're concerned about your blood sugar... 21:04 Well, you want to have a SMALLER amount of rice, 21:09 a LARGER amount of vegetables. 21:12 Or if you have rice, you want to choose the BROWN rice, 21:15 as opposed to the white rice. 21:16 But still, keep the portion moderate, 21:19 focus more on the vegetables. 21:21 If you want to have raisins, 21:22 have raisins but have some mixed nuts. 21:25 Nuts and beans are extremely low as far as the glycemic index 21:30 So glycemic index... I'm sure if someone went on the internet 21:34 and put in glycemic index, they'd find a place 21:36 where they'd get all kinds of lists... 21:37 And there are books on this too, absolutely. 21:40 And at the "Vitae Lifestyle Medicine Center" 21:42 you help people with all that kind of stuff, 21:44 and help them know what those are. 21:46 I suppose probably just moving to... uh, you know, 21:50 some of these things are... orange juice is going to be 21:54 an improvement for lots of people that have the problem 21:56 and some of these high glycemic things are a definite 21:59 improvement for most people... 22:00 But this is kind of a nuance on top of making a switch 22:03 toward plant-based things. 22:05 Right, right... The other big factor which hasn't 22:09 ...oh, been fully utilized, is the concept of FIBER. 22:13 When we eat foods that are high in fiber, 22:15 it tends to slow down the digestion. 22:18 There's something called "soluble fiber" 22:21 Soluble fiber makes like a gel inside our stomach 22:24 so that food energy is released much more slowly... 22:28 We're satisfied longer and the sugar is more stable. 22:31 And I think you have a graphic to describe this. 22:33 Yeah, there are certain foods that are very rich in fiber... 22:38 as they're related to diabetes... 22:40 Interestingly, it's the GRAINS, the whole grains that are the 22:43 MOST stabilizing when it comes to stabilizing blood sugar. 22:47 Beans are up there just about the same, and then vegetables. 22:51 Okay, so grains, beans and vegetables... I mean 22:55 SOME particular cultures... you've got rice and beans, 22:58 I mean, that's a staple, and that's just a very good thing. 23:01 That is, that is... and as those cultures have converted 23:03 more to a Western diet, that's where we're seeing 23:06 more of the epidemic of diabetes occur. 23:08 Okay, so we've talked about weight loss... 23:11 We've talked about glycemic index... 23:12 We've talked about eating more fiber... what else? 23:15 Well one interesting thing is the use of 23:18 vitamins with diabetes. 23:21 The words "diabetes mellitus" means "sweet urine" 23:25 And so when we think about what happens... 23:29 Diabetics urinate more, and they lose more of the 23:32 water-soluble vitamins and minerals. 23:34 In fact, it's almost all the vitamins... 23:37 the B vitamins, vitamin C, magnesium and zinc 23:42 are things that especially low in diabetics. 23:45 These things are extremely important for the heart. 23:48 They're extremely important for skin to heal. 23:53 They're important for preventing infections. 23:55 And we have a slide on one study that was done 23:58 using a vitamin supplement. 24:00 They took 130 patients with diabetes, and they were given 24:05 EITHER a multiple vitamin or a placebo for 1 year... 24:09 and the results were astounding. 24:11 ...93% of the diabetics who took the placebo reported having 24:16 at least 1 infection during the year, versus only 24:19 17% of those taking the multivitamin reported having 24:23 an infection during that year. 24:25 So there was a lot less missed work for those who were employed 24:29 So these multivitamins are of benefit... 24:33 Now, if you can get everything that's in your multivitamin 24:35 from what you're eating, is that even better or... 24:38 No question, no question! 24:40 When we look at something like the prevention of cancer... 24:44 There are so many nutrients... we call them 24:49 "phytochemicals or phytonutrients" 24:51 that help to prevent cancer that you don't get 24:54 in your one-a-day multivitamin. 24:56 What about physical activity? 25:00 That probably should be the #1 thing diabetics think about 25:04 or people who want to prevent diabetes think about. 25:06 It's that physical activity that helps to take that 25:09 stored up sugar that's in the cells and burn it up 25:13 and use it. 25:14 What's the best time to have the physical activity. 25:17 That's a good question... 25:19 I think the best time is the time that you can work it in 25:22 to your day. 25:23 It doesn't have to be all at once. 25:24 Recommendations, you know, include 30-60 minutes 25:29 of moderate activity on most, if not all days. 25:33 If you do it all at once, that's fine. 25:35 If you break it up, that's fine also. 25:38 What about rest, stress management? 25:40 You know, stress INCREASES your blood sugar. 25:44 People who are chronically stressed, 25:47 or don't get enough sleep, 25:49 they will tend to have more trouble 25:51 managing their blood sugar. 25:52 So it's important to take good care of yourself. 25:54 Okay, anything else? 25:58 You know, one other thing I will mention with the diabetes 26:02 is there are certain kinds of fats that are beneficial. 26:06 There is something called "trans fat or hydrogenated fat" 26:10 actually increases the risk of developing diabetes. 26:14 There's a good kind of fat which is called "omega-3" 26:17 which actually helps to reduce the risk of diabetes, 26:20 and helps diabetics improve the control of their blood sugar 26:25 And it says there's something 26:26 about hemoglobin A1c... what's that all about? 26:30 Yeah, the hemoglobin A1c is the measurement 26:34 of average blood sugar over the last 3 months. 26:37 A finger stick will tell you what's happening right now... 26:40 The A1c tells me what the average has been over 3 months. 26:43 Okay, so summarize this all for us... 26:46 We've got about a minute left, 26:48 and what do you want to say in that last minute to 26:50 someone who has diabetes, or wants to avoid it. 26:54 The most important thing has to do with factors 26:57 that we can control. 26:59 It has to do with the amount of exercise we get... 27:02 the amount of sleep and relaxation... 27:06 you know, the stress management component, 27:08 and most importantly the foods that we eat, 27:12 and the quantity of the foods that we eat. 27:15 We're talking with Dr. Timothy Lawton 27:17 and he has given us some great advice on how to 27:21 handle this problem of diabetes. 27:23 It's a huge problem in America... 27:25 and I know if you're watching today, you probably 27:28 know someone that has diabetes. 27:29 And NO ONE wants to have diabetes! 27:31 It causes huge problems, and if we can avoid 27:34 those problems... Man I tell you that's what we want to do! 27:38 Thank you so much for joining us today, Dr. Lawton, 27:41 and taking time out of your busy schedule... 27:43 Thank you, Don. It's been a pleasure to be here 27:45 and share this important information. 27:47 And thank YOU for joining us today. 27:50 We hope that the approach that you heard today 27:52 is something you can implement, 27:53 and share with your friends and your family. 27:55 Thanks for joining us on "Health for a Lifetime" |
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