Participants: Don Mackintosh, Skip MacCarty
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000110
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00:48 Hello and welcome to "Health for a Lifetime"
00:49 I'm your host Don Mackintosh 00:51 We're glad that you've joined us today. 00:52 Today, we're going to be talking about stress, 00:55 and there is such a thing as good stress, 00:58 and there is bad stress. 01:00 Here to talk with us about stress and an interesting way 01:03 to handle it is Dr. Skip MacCarty. 01:05 You've been doing stress seminars for over 20 years. 01:08 You're a fellow of the American Academy of Stress 01:11 You've given talks to many different people. 01:14 We're glad you could join us here at 3ABN, 01:16 and also our audience as well. 01:19 Today, we're going to talk about something that 01:21 is a little bit unique... 01:23 And that is singing or the singing really of hymns 01:27 as they relate to stress and stress management. 01:31 How in the world did you come up with connecting hymns 01:34 with stress management? 01:36 Well Don, you're probably not 01:37 going to read books on stress 01:39 and come up with this - this I had learned. 01:42 But when you think about it, singing is part of every culture 01:46 of the world - there is singing, people sing! 01:49 And even if they can't sing very well, 01:51 they have favorite songs, favorite tunes, 01:53 and sometimes it's because of a tune or many times it's 01:56 because of the words of those songs. 01:59 And several years ago, I began, as part of my devotional time, 02:04 to just start singing my way through the 02:06 Seventh-day Adventist Hymnal. 02:08 There are 700 hymns here, 02:11 and since I was doing research on stress; 02:13 I've been researching now for years, 02:15 I wasn't really thinking about it when I did it. 02:17 I was singing through hymns just to be singing 02:20 and as part of my worship experience... 02:22 And I wanted to sing through every hymn in the book. 02:25 I didn't get very far before I recognized - 02:28 Hey - some of these are really related to stress issues, 02:31 and are really quite helpful; they would be helpful to people. 02:34 So I began to put in the back of my book here - 02:38 I began to put the numbers of the hymns 02:41 that were related to stress. 02:42 After a while, I had 100 hymns there that were stress-related. 02:47 And I began to realize more and more - this is awesome 02:50 ...I thought back then, in my own experience and realized, 02:54 - this is a very powerful resource for managing stress. 02:58 So it was through your singing through the hymns 03:02 or looking at them in your own private devotions, 03:04 you're not a public singer, maybe. Correct 03:07 And you decided - Hey, this has been very useful to me, 03:10 and you made the connection there. 03:12 Yes, and as I thought back over the years, Don, 03:15 of my own experience, I remembered a time 03:18 I had never connected these before. 03:20 I came to that conclusion through singing through the 03:22 hymnal and began to just amass these numbers of hymns 03:25 that were stress-related, 03:27 but then I began to think back over the years, 03:29 and there was a time, probably 35 years ago now, 03:33 that I was driving from - I was pastoring at 03:35 Winnemucca, Nevada, and I was driving 03:36 a thousand miles to visit family... 03:39 Winnemucca? Winnemucca, Nevada 03:41 The name sounds a little distressing to me, but... 03:43 It means "one moccasin" 03:45 Oh okay, well then maybe that's not distressing, okay. 03:47 And we had a little congregation there, 03:50 and I was travelling, driving by myself a thousand miles 03:53 to visit family - it was at a particularly stressful 03:56 time in my life. 03:58 And I could not get my mind off the stresses, 04:02 and so I happen to have a hymnal with me. 04:05 And so I began to sing hymns 04:07 as I was traveling across country, 04:09 and I'll tell you the effect, 04:11 it just pulled me out of it, and then I would put it aside 04:14 and listen to the radio for a while and my mind would start 04:16 getting back into that stuff and I'd have to start 04:18 singing hymns again and there were several hymns 04:20 particularly that got me through that. 04:22 But I had forgotten all about that experience... 04:25 Then later in my life I went through a very, very 04:29 devastating divorce for me. 04:31 During that period of time, also, I could hardly even 04:34 sleep at nights, but I remembered thinking 04:36 back on that period that again, there were songs, 04:39 there were hymns that helped me 04:41 at my most discouraging times during that period, 04:44 but I had forgotten about it; once I got through that 04:46 experience I had forgotten about it. 04:47 Then, once I began singing through the hymnal 04:50 and seeing how many hymns that were stress-related, 04:52 I thought back on those experiences and I said, 04:55 "This really is a powerful instrument, 04:57 and I just hadn't accessed it intentionally before 05:02 like I'm going to do from this point on" 05:04 One of the great reformers, Martin Luther, 05:06 talked about how hymns helped him in depressive times, 05:08 I remember reading about that. 05:10 So you mentioned the Seventh-day Adventist Hymnal, 05:14 does that mean they need to be 05:15 out of the Seventh-day Adventist hymn book, 05:17 are these all written by Seventh-day Adventists? 05:19 Well, interestingly, I had the same question in my mind 05:23 about this and I did a little research on it, 05:25 and there is 97+% of the hymns that we have 05:30 in the Seventh-day Adventist Hymnal are just Christian hymns, 05:33 not written by Seventh-day Adventists. 05:36 We got them from other hymnals and from other sources, 05:39 and got permission to use them. 05:41 You can take ANY hymnal, it makes no difference 05:43 where the hymnal comes from or it doesn't even have to be 05:46 something in the hymnal, but just Christian hymns 05:49 are a powerful resource. 05:51 And do you cover this in your seminar - "Beyond Coping" 05:53 Actually, I do not, because that seminar is 05:55 designed to more for the community. 05:57 I feel this is a step beyond that, 05:59 so we don't really have a section on this because 06:01 most people couldn't relate. 06:03 A lot of the people... I like to have, 06:04 I want people walking in off the street who aren't 06:07 thinking about God, who are just thinking secularly, 06:09 and I want to be able to relate to them and little, by little, 06:12 by little, open their hearts to the tremendous 06:15 spiritual resources we have, but hymns are a step beyond 06:19 where most of them would be. 06:20 Well you know, I have to say that where I live there is 06:23 a lot of people that enjoy country music, 06:25 and you've heard that old saying that if you listen to it 06:28 long enough, you lose all - your wife, 06:30 your car, everything else! 06:31 And they say if you listen to it backwards, 06:33 you get them all back! 06:35 So actually, you know, even those that are listening 06:38 to other kinds of music, they can get depressed by that. 06:41 I mean, I have and certainly hymns have been really 06:45 meaningful for me too - kind of a funny story isn't it? 06:49 Well, give us an example then, to shift gears back to hymns, 06:54 of a hymn that has been helpful for stress with you. 06:56 Okay, I'll take one, an example... 06:59 "Dear Lord and Father of Mankind" 07:01 It's hymn #480, written by John Greenleaf Whittier 07:05 Famous poet... 07:07 Yes, listen to these words... 07:08 "Dear Lord and Father of mankind Forgive our feverish ways; 07:14 ...Now think about that - "Forgive our feverish ways" 07:17 Fast-paced, always at it... 07:20 EXACTLY, even in the ministry. 07:22 You know, we can be just feverish about our ways, 07:25 and I love the way this starts. 07:26 Dear Lord and Father of mankind forgive our feverish ways 07:30 They are just stress-inducing when we live at that pace. 07:34 Reclothe us in our rightful mind 07:37 In purer lives thy service find, 07:40 In deeper reverence praise. 07:43 Great I love the other verse here - 07:46 Drop thy still dews of quietness, 07:50 There's that element of peace and serenity we strive for 07:54 in stress management. 07:55 Till all our strivings cease; 07:58 We can still be active but there's a difference between 08:00 active and just that kind of ceaseless striving. 08:05 Take from our souls the strain and stress, 08:09 And let our ordered lives confess the beauty of Thy peace" 08:14 I'm in control. 08:16 Don, a person could do a lot worse than singing that 08:19 song at the beginning of the day - believe me. 08:21 It just puts you in a spirit; it puts you in a mood... 08:24 And it is, I think, an awesome resource just in and of itself 08:30 to help with stress. 08:32 So you just sing this in the shower or you sing this, 08:35 you memorize it? I do, I do 08:39 Okay, so these hymns, they truly just kind of encapsulate 08:45 what you'd want. 08:46 Any other hymns that you have 08:48 been just really blessed by in this way? 08:50 Another one that is, I can't say too much for this hymn - 08:53 It is SO awesome, it's called "How Firm a Foundation" 08:57 I think it's #509 in our Seventh-day Adventist Hymnal 09:01 It actually - the author is anonymous. 09:04 We got it from an old hymnal... 09:06 "Ripen's A Selection of Hymns" it's called 09:09 But it is rooted in Scripture. 09:11 Every verse of this is rooted in Scripture, 09:14 and just listen to these words and think if your going 09:17 through a stressful time and having these words impact you. 09:20 "How firm a foundation, ye saints of the Lord, 09:24 Is laid for your faith in His excellent Word! 09:27 I don't know if we dare sing it Don, but I can hardly 09:30 read the words without singing, 09:32 and I sing so awful that it might destroy the program... 09:35 But... What more can He say than to you He has said, 09:40 To you who for refuge to Jesus hath fled. 09:44 So that's just saying that you have a tremendous resource. 09:48 What more could God give you than what I've already given you 09:50 And now it starts just going through promise after promise. 09:54 Don, you could take only one verse of this hymn, 09:57 and memorize that one verse and sing it over and over 09:59 in a stressful time and get help, 10:01 but you put all these verses together... 10:02 it's just awesome the impact it can have. 10:05 Now think of this... "Fear not, I am with thee 10:09 O be not dismayed; For I am thy God 10:14 and will still give thee aid; 10:17 I'll strengthen thee, help thee, and cause thee to stand; 10:23 Upheld by My righteous omnipotent hand. " 10:27 So that's a very meaningful personal acquaintance with God. 10:31 Awesome - and it doesn't stop. 10:33 "When thro the deep waters" 10:35 You see, this is God speaking to us. 10:37 So much of our hymns are us speaking to God. 10:39 This is God speaking to us. 10:40 "When thro the deep waters I call thee to go" 10:44 "The rivers of sorrow shall not overflow" 10:48 "For I will be with thee, thy troubles to bless" 10:52 "And sanctify to thee thy deepest distress" 10:57 So He sanctifies the stress in our lives. 11:00 He takes the distress in our life and He brings 11:02 meaning out of it - He brings something good out of it. 11:04 He says, I'm with you through this and that makes it okay. 11:07 I'll walk with you and... "When thro fiery trials thy 11:13 pathway shall lie, My grace all sufficient shall be thy supply" 11:20 This is 2 Corinthians 12:9 11:23 "The flame shall not hurt thee; I only design 11:28 thy dross to consume, and thy gold to refine" 11:32 In other words, trust me through this experience, 11:35 and I'll do something good in your life - 11:37 if you just trust me and hold on to me - don't give up, 11:39 don't lose faith. 11:41 And Don, it just keeps coming and coming - the next verse... 11:44 "The soul that on Jesus hath leaned for repose. " 11:49 "I will not, I will not desert to His foes" 11:55 "That soul, though all hell should endeavor to shake" 12:00 Sometimes you're in an experience and that's 12:01 what you feel like - you feel like you're just 12:02 being SHAKEN to the core by the forces of hell. 12:06 Here it comes... "I'll never, no never, 12:10 no never forsake" 12:12 I can tell you, Don, I wake up in the middle of the night 12:15 sometimes and my mind starts going - in fact, 12:17 I'll be honest with you, the last several nights, 12:20 I've woken up and because I can't get out of my mind 12:27 when the first night when you came here to the area 12:30 and we were rooming together during the tapings here, 12:34 you brought this magazine, I hadn't seen this before, 12:36 the Time Magazine issue of the terrorists attacks on 12:40 the World Trade Towers... 12:42 The first time I had gone through and actually seen the 12:44 pictures here but as I was going through and seeing 12:47 pictures, they show pictures of the people jumping 12:49 out of the buildings. 12:51 They show pictures of the explosions and of some of the 12:54 horrible things taking place here. 12:56 And I went to bed late at night when I looked this through 13:00 I woke up in the middle of the night - 13:02 I literally pictured myself having to make a choice 13:04 to jump out of the buildings. 13:06 Pictured myself being on one of those planes, 13:08 and my stomach started burning... 13:10 And I just began to sing this hymn over and over, 13:14 very slowly concentrated on the words. 13:17 For God said... No matter what, Skip, no matter what, 13:20 I'll be with you - I'll go through anything with you. 13:25 And it's going to be okay, if you trust me, it will be okay 13:28 Even if "worse case" happens on this earth, 13:31 it's going to be okay in the heavenly economy, 13:33 just trust me... Awesome, absolutely awesome! 13:36 So an anonymous author but he wrote those words. 13:40 You know there's actually a program that's on 13:43 Christian stations that a man 13:45 preaches from the Bible and that's his theme song. 13:47 He has Our Firm a Foundation 13:49 and it's always a great comfort to hear that. 13:51 And you know, I would say maybe there are people 13:55 watching today that say - 13:56 Hey look, I'd like to get a hold 13:58 of a Seventh-day Adventist Hymnal 13:59 even though I am a secular person because, frankly, 14:01 I think many times people don't realize how depressive 14:05 the music they're listening to is, 14:07 and these are just very hopeful, what would you say, 14:12 testimony-laden, experience-laden lyrics 14:16 that can just bring the Spirit of God, 14:18 and can bring people out of stress. 14:20 Don, in December of 2000, I was the opening speaker of 14:24 the International Congress on Stress held in Hawaii 14:27 It wasn't because I'm a great speaker; 14:28 it wasn't because they think I'm the LEAD stress researcher 14:33 in the world - NO, not that all 14:35 It's because I submitted an abstract to read as a paper 14:39 there sometime during the Congress, 14:40 on the Bible as a resource for stress management. 14:43 Stress researchers today know that spirituality reduces stress 14:48 They don't know why, and they were curious as to 14:50 what would a minister stress researcher say 14:55 about the Bible as a resource for stress management. 14:57 But since I read that paper, I realized that maybe not 15:01 quite as equal, but very, very high on the 15:03 list - hymns have a similar impact on people. 15:06 And one of the reasons I think that some of the hymns 15:09 have stood the test of time as they have is because they 15:12 speak so DEEPLY to people who are going through trials. 15:15 We're talking with Dr. MacCarty 15:18 He has written much in a seminar called... 15:21 "Stress Beyond Coping" about how to deal with stress. 15:23 We're talking about HYMNS as they relate to stress and music. 15:27 Join us when we come back. 15:35 Have you found yourself wishing 15:36 that you could shed a few pounds? 15:38 Have you been on a diet for most of your life, 15:40 but not found anything that will really keep the weight off? 15:44 If you've answered "yes" to any of these questions, 15:46 then we have a solution for you that works! 15:49 Dr. Hans Diehl and Dr. Aileen Ludington 15:52 have written a marvelous booklet called... 15:54 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 15:56 and we'd like to send it to you FREE of charge. 15:59 Here's a medically sound approach successfully 16:01 used by thousands who were able to eat more 16:04 and lose weight permanently without feeling guilty or hungry 16:08 through lifestyle medicine. 16:09 Dr. Diehl and Dr. Ludington have been featured on 3ABN 16:13 and in this booklet, they present a sensible approach 16:16 to eating, nutrition and lifestyle changes that can 16:19 help you prevent heart disease, diabetes and EVEN cancer. 16:22 Call or write today for your free copy of... 16:24 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 16:26 and you could be on your way to a healthier, happier YOU! 16:30 It's ABSOLUTELY free of charge, so call or write today. 16:37 Welcome back, we're talking with Dr. Skip MacCarty, 16:40 and we're talking about stress; 16:42 we're talking about how it is we can handle stress... 16:44 And the thing we're talking about today is this 16:46 connection with MUSIC and stress; 16:49 more specifically, the famous old Christian hymns. 16:54 And you have shared with us that this journey you've been on 16:58 has been a great blessing to you at pivotal times 17:00 in your own personal life, 17:01 but that there is over 100 hymns that you've found that 17:03 are related to stress. 17:05 Well over 100, maybe 200 now. 17:07 How does a hymn like this have the ability 17:12 to help someone that's going through a period of stress? 17:14 Well Don, I've created what I call a stress management pyramid 17:18 A stress management pyramid takes the 7 components, 17:21 7 keys of managing stress, 17:23 arranges them in hierarchical order, 17:27 and at the top of that pyramid you have the most 17:29 powerful components of managing stress... 17:32 And notice at the very top, you have 17:34 "spiritual integration," the prayer and spiritual life. 17:36 And then right close to that "viewpoint" 17:38 That is your attitude - the eyes through which you 17:41 look at life through. 17:43 Hymns encompass both of those. 17:47 They are very definitely spiritually oriented, 17:51 and have powerful spiritual resources, 17:53 and they help you shape attitudes toward life. 17:56 There is an atheist professor at Stanford who is 18:00 an expert in the field of stress. 18:02 He wrote a book called... "Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers" 18:05 and several editions of that. 18:07 A very good book on the physiology of stress. 18:09 Towards the end of his book he makes this statement, he says... 18:33 and if on top of all that, the deity is viewed as benign... 18:36 In other words, he's not going to hurt you. 18:37 So he is saying if he has rules and there are 18:40 cause and effects - so you know if you do certain things, 18:42 that you will get certain results, 18:43 and if this isn't a deity that is going to hurt you... 18:46 He says, the stress-inducing advantages 18:48 must be extraordinary, then he goes on to say... 19:09 So he is exactly right-on and hymns a are part of 19:14 those spiritual resources... Not only is he having a 19:17 hard time remaining an atheist, 19:19 he's starting to make a decision about which religion he wants, 19:22 and it looks like he is pointing right toward Christianity. 19:25 Exactly... because in another place in that same quotation, 19:28 that I didn't have in there, 19:30 he said, "If you believe you can call upon your God, 19:32 and get an answer, which most religions, he says 19:36 don't believe that, that's another element... 19:38 Do you have a God that would be a great source of support. 19:41 "Call upon me and I will answer 19:42 and show you great things which you know not"... says Jeremiah 19:45 He's limiting himself to a real picture there. Exactly! 19:49 And Don, I'm not saying every hymn is a stress resource, 19:51 but many of them are. 19:53 What a powerful thing to know! 19:56 Can you give another example 19:57 of a hymn that could have that kind of effect. 20:00 Let me put another one on the screen... 20:01 The title of it is... "Day by Day" 20:03 and Carolina Sandal Berg wrote the hymn. 20:09 She was 26 when she wrote this song. 20:14 Her father was a pastor and he 20:15 had just drowned before she wrote this song. 20:18 It's a beautiful hymn... 20:23 "Trusting in my Father's wise bestowment" 20:26 Talking about her Heavenly Father. 20:59 "As your days your strength 21:01 shall be in measure"... Think about that 21:02 As your days your strength shall be in measure - 21:05 God knows what is coming today 21:06 and He gives you the grace, 21:08 and the strength at the beginning of the day 21:09 to handle whatever is coming. 21:24 Powerful... It is just an awesome resource. 21:30 So these hymns, they can just, on your pyramid there 21:35 it not only is a spiritual thing 21:37 but it can change your viewpoint... It can 21:41 And then reconnects you... 21:42 The other side of your pyramid was close relationships... 21:45 If you sing these with other people, it's almost as if 21:47 you're coming back in the community. 21:49 Well, you're putting those 3 top components 21:51 in that stress pyramid together when you are 21:53 singing with other people, 21:54 and you're really investing yourself in those words... 21:56 And Don, you CANNOT, you cannot have a 21:59 depressing thought and one of these hymns in your mind 22:01 at the same time - you can't do it. 22:03 So you can actually change discouragement, 22:06 and many times so much of stress is process of stress. 22:10 In other words, it's not real stress... 22:11 It's not like I'm attacking you and beating you... 22:13 It's you're thinking about something... 22:15 You're worrying about something. 22:17 You're thinking about some past hurt or loss of some kind, 22:21 and that's creating stress. 22:24 And if you start plugging in something more positive 22:27 into your mind - like these wonderful promises, 22:29 these great hymns - you start repeating them to yourself. 22:32 It literally CHASES the process of stress away from your body. 22:37 Your body, chemically, responds to that in a positive way. 22:40 I want to look at another example, 22:41 but what you're saying reminds me of a quote by a philosopher 22:45 whose name was, I believe, "Pogo" - is how he spells it. 22:49 And he said, "If you allow me to write the songs for a nation, 22:52 I'll tell you what it's going to be like in 25 years. 22:55 Because he recognized it could 22:57 change the viewpoint of a whole nation. 23:00 And it's kind of strange that we'd be talking about 23:02 hymns when we're talking about stress management, 23:04 and in terms of a real serious discipline, 23:06 but they're very powerful, VERY powerful. 23:11 Give us another example, I'm loving these hymns. 23:13 What's another example of a hymn that has a great effect? 23:15 Well there's another one that I love that called... 23:18 "In the Cross of Christ I Glory" listen to this... 23:21 "In the Cross of Christ I glory, Towering o'er the wrecks of time 23:24 John Bowering, by the way, was said to have 23:27 been approaching the shores of 23:28 south China and on the South China Sea, 23:30 and he saw this cross that a hurricane had come through 23:35 and had destroyed everything except this cross 23:38 that was standing up over this village there. 23:41 So... "Towering over the wrecks of time, 23:43 All the light of sacred story Gather round its head sublime 23:47 When the woes of life o'er-take me, 23:50 Hopes deceive and fears annoy ... There's a lot of life 23:54 where that applies to right there... 23:56 Never shall the cross forsake me Lo' it glows with peace and joy. 24:01 If you know anything about stress management research, 24:02 they're striving for peace and joy. 24:04 That's what we're trying to create in stress management. 24:06 Then I love this verse... When the sun of bliss is beating 24:11 In other words, it's not a bad day... it's a good day. 24:13 It's a great day! Light and love upon my way 24:17 From the cross the radiance streaming, 24:19 Adds new luster to the day. 24:21 In other words, a spiritual relationship makes 24:24 a good day better! 24:25 It doesn't just take a day that's going bad 24:28 and make it bearable... No It makes a good day better. 24:32 Bane and blessing, pain and pleasure, 24:34 By the cross are sanctified. 24:37 Peace is there that knows no measure. 24:39 Joys that through all time abide. " 24:42 Was there anything else that you learned as you've been 24:44 looking at hymns and going through that 24:45 hymn book you want to share? 24:47 Well Don, there were 2 surprises to me... 24:51 Our hymnal, "The Seventh-day Adventist Hymnal" 24:53 is grouped in sections, it's grouped by subjects. 24:57 All about Jesus are in one section. 24:59 Worship of God in another, etcetera... 25:01 The hymns, and this caught me by surprise... 25:03 The hymns that had the highest percentage... 25:06 The subject that had the highest percentage of 25:07 stress-related hymns, I felt, stress-related, 25:10 were the second coming of Christ hymns - the blessed hope! 25:13 The blessed hope - that offers such hope. 25:16 Hymn after hymn, after hymn is offering hope 25:19 for reunion with loved ones; 25:21 hope that the trials and griefs of this life will be over, 25:24 and hymns that motivated people to be active and energetic 25:28 and hopeful in this life, and joyful in this life. 25:30 So the second coming really impressed you. 25:32 The second coming... the other one was the 25:34 of the Sabbath and most of these were not written by 25:35 Seventh-day Adventists. 25:37 But hymns on the Sabbath, because rest and relaxation 25:40 and peace and quiet, are so important in 25:42 stress management research to 25:44 to stress management researchers, 25:46 that those hymns were just bulls eye, hymn after hymn 25:49 on the Sabbath were just saying... 25:52 What a wonderful peace to lay down our challenges 25:57 of the week and just to have this respite. 26:00 What does the Bible say, specifically, about hymns 26:03 and stress management? 26:05 Well it has several... it admonishes us 26:09 to be involved in hymns. 26:10 In Colossians 3, is one Scripture that says... 26:32 I tell you, those hymns, those songs, 26:33 create gratitude and peace. 26:36 I've experienced that and found 26:38 it to be true and for other people who use this. 26:40 So this is a Biblical concept as well and it points us to 26:43 the pathos of those old hymns, the Psalms, 26:45 I guess you'd say... Exactly 26:46 And some contemporary hymns 26:48 as well are VERY powerful to help that way... 26:50 So how does this all fit then in your overall 26:52 you know, stress pyramid, if you will? 26:55 Well let me just kind of re-phrase that if I could... 27:00 We'll put the stress pyramid up for a moment and I recommend... 27:03 Stress management isn't just hymn-singing, Don, 27:06 it's not just hymn-singing... It's ALL these things! 27:07 Eating healthfully, exercising, having periods of relaxation, 27:12 having good, wholesome relationships, 27:14 and then with all these other things as well. 27:17 It means, I think as one of the components of the 27:19 spiritual... the most important the spiritual component, 27:21 and having a healthy attitude toward life viewpoints, 27:24 a healthy belief system - is to commit some hymns, 27:27 learn some hymns and at times of real need in 27:30 your life, just run those hymns through your mind, 27:33 and it will just pull you right out of discouragement... 27:35 very powerful to do that. 27:37 This has been most helpful. 27:38 We're thankful that you could be with us, 27:40 and we're glad that you could be with us as well. 27:42 We hope that you WILL take this advice seriously. 27:47 Perhaps you want to get a hold 27:48 of a Seventh-day Adventist Hymnal, 27:49 we can tell you how to do that here at 3ABN. 27:51 Perhaps you want to get a hold of the seminar? 27:53 Whatever you do, go on your way SINGING today 27:56 and have Health that Lasts for a Lifetime! |
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