Participants: Don Mackintosh, Skip MacCarty
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000108
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00:47 Hello and welcome to "Health for a Lifetime"
00:49 I'm your host Don Mackintosh 00:50 We're glad you're with us today. 00:51 Today we're going to be talking about stress. 00:53 It's something that affects most of us, 00:56 either in a positive way or a negative way. 00:58 And talking with us today, we have Dr. Skip MacCarty 01:02 And you've been doing a lot of research on stress. 01:05 You are one of the members of the American College, 01:09 I guess, a fellow of the "American Institute of Stress" 01:12 You've given major presentations for that organization, 01:15 and your "Stress Beyond Coping Seminar" is now 01:19 being used in many communities and is endorsed by the 01:22 General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists 01:24 We're going to be covering part of that seminar. 01:27 I've been impressed with it; 01:28 we won't be able to cover everything in the seminar. 01:30 I know that people can get in touch with that material 01:33 by either calling the General Conference or here at 3ABN. 01:36 But today, we're going to be focusing on what you call 01:39 in your seminar, "life management and how 01:44 it relates to stress management" 01:45 So that's a big thing... we can't cover everyone's 01:48 whole life here today, but give us an overview 01:51 of stress as you see it. 01:53 You have that organizational paradigm - the stress tank, 01:56 and some keys that you have discovered. 01:59 And then, let's talk about this life management. 02:01 Don, the "stress tank" is simply an invitation to 02:05 view your life as a tank, and you have stresses 02:10 being poured into your life throughout the day, 02:15 and if you get too much and it reaches the overflow point, 02:19 the point of overload, 02:20 then various kinds of harm, you're harder to get along with, 02:25 irritable, it puts a strain in relationships, 02:27 it can cause illness and disease. 02:32 ...60 to 90% of people who go to a physician for some kind of 02:36 health problem - it's estimated now are stress-related 02:40 problems - illnesses and accident proneness - 02:43 persons more prone to be in an accident if they are 02:48 under a lot of stress. 02:51 Fortunately, there's a pressure relief valve on the tank 02:53 that can drain stress to safe levels and prevent 02:58 the buildup to the harmful point. 03:01 There are ways we can close the pressure relief valve 03:03 thinking we're helping ourselves. 03:07 Six out of the 10 reasons why people who continue to smoke 03:11 do continue to smoke are stress-related reasons, 03:14 and #1 reason is to help them handle stress... 03:17 And yet it boomerangs, it actually creates more stress. 03:20 social stress, physical stress, etcetera. 03:28 There are 7 keys that open the pressure relief valve. 03:31 These are the keys to managing stress... 03:40 And then this last one here in this acronym at least, 03:43 "Time management and organization" 03:46 I assume that's where life management comes in. 03:48 That's where it fits in - in the organizational element. 03:51 We've already talked about time management. 03:52 We had a program on time management; 03:54 now, we're talking about organization. 03:55 It's life management - really is what it is. 03:57 Okay, so then in the overall scheme of 04:00 stress management, where would this fall? 04:02 Okay, in the stress pyramid that I've developed, 04:04 it's one of the 4th foundational elements. 04:07 So you can see, we've put it quite high in the 04:09 4 foundational elements there at the bottom... 04:11 And the real power elements of stress management 04:14 are the top 3, but this is still VERY important 04:17 in time management organization, life management... 04:20 And life management in some ways, it's kind of a 04:24 catch-all of a lot of different things going on in our lives... 04:26 It's not as specifically focused as just time management 04:29 or just exercise, but it involves a lot of 04:32 different elements. 04:33 So then how does life management 04:37 relate to stress management? 04:38 Well, good organization in life management, Don, 04:43 #1- It helps put us more in control of our situation. 04:49 And the control is such an important concept 04:53 in stress management. 04:55 When people lose control, they are under stress. 04:58 When they FEEL like they've lost control of their lives, 05:00 they're under stress. 05:03 When you take someone who has been independent, 05:06 and you put them in a nursing home... 05:07 Ooo - that's big. It's very big 05:10 They lose control of every element of their life. 05:13 They don't even choose, in many cases, what they wear 05:17 and it's chosen for them... What they eat, when to get up... 05:24 That's kind of taking it to an extreme... 05:26 But life management, it's just trying to get control over the 05:29 various elements of our life and be MORE in control 05:33 of our lives in that respect. 05:35 Okay so, anything else besides control, 05:37 I mean, taking away control that you once had, 05:40 but what else does life management do? 05:44 The second point is that it can help prevent distress 05:47 from just by controlling some of the environment around us. 05:54 That guy does look a little overloaded... 05:55 Part of our environment that we do have some control over... 05:59 Yes, he looks a bit out of control there... yes 06:01 We're trying to help him get in more control. 06:03 Give you more control and help you not look like that guy... 06:06 Help prevent the stress. Yeah and just to control 06:08 some of the elements of the environment around you. 06:10 All right, so lack of control, in other words, 06:14 out of control or losing control. 06:17 What else is involved in life management? 06:20 What's really ultimately involved, 06:22 and what's the bottom line? 06:23 Well, basically it's getting control of your life, 06:27 and trying to arrange things in your environment... 06:32 It's to keep you from reaching the overload. 06:34 There are certain things we can do - decisions we can make 06:36 to keep our stress tank from filling to the overload point. 06:39 We don't have control over a lot of things that 06:41 go on in our lives, but there is plenty that we 06:43 do have control over and it's managing to focus on the 06:45 elements we do have control over like the 06:47 Serenity Prayer suggested... 06:52 Grant me the serenity, Lord, to accept the things 06:56 I cannot change and be at peace about them... 06:58 And then to change the things that I can... 07:01 It's those things that we can, we do have control over. 07:04 It's really focusing on those things and gaining control, 07:07 and trying to line them up so they're not 07:09 stress-producing in our lives as much as possible. 07:11 What about this, you know we have a problem with 07:13 information overload. 07:14 Many times you just get SO much stuff coming in, 07:17 what do you do? 07:18 What does life management teach us about that? 07:21 Well first of all, I'd like to back just a little bit from that 07:25 and say that the first point I'd recommend in light of this 07:28 life management area, is that we start our days 07:32 slower and earlier because we lose... 07:34 Many people, if you get up in the day, 07:36 if it takes you 45 minutes to get ready, to get up 07:39 and quickly get ready for work and get out the door, 07:42 would recommend you give yourself - 07:44 try to back that up in 1/2 an hour, 07:46 and give yourself 1-1/2 hours. 07:48 Give yourself a little bit of leeway in there 07:51 so you're not so hurried, you're not so rushed. 07:55 That sets a different tone for the day. 07:58 Now you can't do it simply by setting your alarm clock 08:01 1/2 hour earlier - that doesn't work 08:03 because then you're irritable, 08:05 you haven't got enough sleep as it is and this is even worse. 08:08 It means managing the night before; 08:10 trying to get to bed a little bit earlier the night before. 08:13 You can't do it in a big - like move it an hour or 2 earlier 08:17 That doesn't work either. 08:19 But just moving it little by little in increments 08:21 until you give yourself extra time in the morning. 08:24 Wake up with an alarm clock - that's what we recommend. 08:27 Set your alarm as a failsafe but wake up without an 08:30 alarm clock but just wake up earlier than you ordinarily do 08:33 so you give yourself plenty of time... 08:34 Any little emergency come up, it's okay, 08:36 you give yourself some leeway and it sets a 08:39 different tone for the day, it's the only way to re-set it. 08:40 That's no alarm clock - if you can help it. 08:43 Yes, that's one of the other principles of the 08:46 rest and relaxation for stress is try to get 08:48 enough sleep at night so you don't have 08:50 to have that alarm clock to wake you up. 08:52 You can still set the alarm clock as a failsafe, 08:55 but if you want to wake up before the alarm goes off. 08:57 Okay, we're going to come to this information overload thing, 09:00 and I hope you help me with that... Yes, that very important 09:02 What about it? Information overload is 09:07 requiring us to make decisions. 09:08 Junk mail - The amount of junk mail we get these days... 09:13 If a person opens all the mail that they get, 09:15 those advertisers, the marketers design those products, 09:20 and design those ad pieces so that you have to 09:23 make some kind of decision. 09:24 So we're really - just adding to all the decisions 09:27 we already have to make in the day. 09:29 You take television advertisements, 09:33 that's an amazing amount of stuff that we have as well... 09:39 So you're saying here, don't even open the junk mail? 09:41 Don't even open it - a lot of it you don't even have 09:43 to open the junk mail. 09:44 Turn the radio off... Turn the radio off one way 09:47 at least one way - on the way to work or getting home 09:51 from work - turn the radio off because, again, 09:53 that's information - it can be information overload, 09:57 but let me tell you what's happening when the 09:58 radio is on all the time... is we learn to tune out 10:01 the human voice. 10:02 You've got the radio on, it's just noise. 10:05 You listen to it for a while, then after a while, 10:07 you're off thinking something else, but the guys keep talking 10:12 and you're not listening anymore. 10:13 So what happens is... somebody close to you, 10:16 you go home, your wife talks to you and you're not even 10:19 listening, you're training yourself on the way home 10:21 to tune out the human voice. 10:23 Maybe you listened for just a little bit and then "bang" 10:25 your mind is off - just like with the radio. 10:27 We recommend turning it off. 10:29 If you're not listening to something, turn it off. 10:32 And TV commercials, if you're watching TV, 10:34 and it has commercials, mute the commercials, 10:36 not on 3ABN because that's valuable information. 10:39 That's very politically correct to say that. 10:42 So what do you do with your junk mail? 10:45 See if I'm doing the right thing... 10:46 I have this big box where I put all mail in that I 10:49 don't want to open until later and I put it all in there, 10:52 and then I open it when I don't have anything else to do. 10:57 That's fine... you might even eventually decide, 11:02 is some of that not even worth that kind of time 11:05 because maybe there's something else, 11:06 a book you'd rather read or something else that would be 11:08 even more valuable, but it's up to you how you do that 11:12 Questionable junk mail I put in this box. 11:15 The other junk mail I put it right in the fireplace. 11:18 Yes, right... I hate to say that 11:20 No junk mail... But that's not a bad place 11:23 for it or recycle... 11:24 I have a recycle bin and I recycle that stuff. 11:28 Okay, so after we get a handle on it through getting 11:32 rid of the junk mail, not listening to the radio 11:35 both ways and these other things you've talked about, 11:38 what's the next step? 11:40 I mean, there seems to be so many things that are 11:41 required of us today to do, I mean, just basically 11:44 LIFE seems to be more complicated - 11:46 or am I missing something? What should we don? 11:48 I think we're all feeling the same crunch on that, Don, 11:53 and the next thing on my list that I recommend is 11:56 that we regulate the amount and the intensity of 11:59 activities that we're involved in. 12:01 I like the statement that was made by Dr. Meyer Friedman. 12:04 He was one of the researchers that discovered 12:09 the type A - type B personality and wrote that 12:11 and put that before us, and he said... 12:32 And what got him to that point of doing that, Don, 12:37 was that when he was 40 years old, he had 12:39 his first heart attack; a cardiologist, 12:40 a very successful cardiologist in San Francisco. 12:43 He had his first heart attack at age 40. 12:46 He began to re-think his life and reevaluate his life, 12:49 and then he came up with this 5-year test... 12:51 And he says, you put things in perspective when you do that. 12:54 Is it really going to matter? 12:58 What he did - he just slowed down the amount of 13:01 things happening in his life and began to regulate 13:04 his life and his situation more. 13:05 So the question practically again is to say, 13:07 "Hey look, whatever is being asked of me to do, 13:10 is it going to really MATTER in 5 years?" 13:13 And again, I think the other thing you talked about 13:16 one of the other keys was this time management principle 13:19 where you were looking at things and prioritizing 13:23 what you wanted to do today and in 5 years, 13:25 and then this and that - Maybe you're going to cover 13:27 a little bit of that today. 13:28 Focus on the things that are the 13:29 most important - that's correct. 13:31 Okay, so once you've done that, I'm sure there are other 13:35 steps and things that you will cover and I'm starting to 13:39 get an idea of what this means. 13:40 It's a pretty broad topic - life management, 13:42 but these are very practical things. 13:44 We've been talking with Dr. Skip MacCarty 13:46 We've been talking about time management, 13:48 and actually a life management as it relates to stress, 13:52 how you can reduce your stress if you get a handle on this. 13:56 Join us when we come back, we'll talk more about it. 14:04 Have you found yourself wishing 14:05 that you could shed a few pounds? 14:07 Have you been on a diet for most of your life, 14:09 but not found anything that will really keep the weight off? 14:12 If you've answered "yes" to any of these questions, 14:15 then we have a solution for you that works! 14:18 Dr. Hans Diehl and Dr. Aileen Ludington 14:21 have written a marvelous booklet called... 14:23 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 14:25 and we'd like to send it to you FREE of charge. 14:28 Here's a medically sound approach successfully used by 14:30 thousands who were able to eat more and lose weight 14:33 permanently without feeling guilty or hungry 14:36 through lifestyle medicine. 14:38 Dr. Diehl and Dr. Ludington have been featured on 3ABN 14:42 and in this booklet they present a sensible 14:44 approach to eating, nutrition and lifestyle changes 14:47 that can help you prevent heart disease, diabetes 14:50 and even cancer. 14:51 Call or write today for your free copy of... 14:53 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 14:55 and you could be on your way to a healthier happier YOU! 14:58 It's ABSOLUTELY free of charge so call or write today. 15:06 Welcome back, we've been talking about stress 15:08 and stress management - what you can do to 15:10 alleviate stress in your life. 15:12 The thing we've been talking about today with Dr. MacCarty 15:15 is LIFE MANAGEMENT and what we've talked about is that 15:19 if we just take an overall look at our life, 15:22 and we get started early in the morning, 15:23 we slow things down and we really take a steady look at 15:27 things, we really can have a more positive outlook 15:30 and we can have less stress... 15:32 At least some stress is good but unhealthy stress... 15:36 Is there anything else that's involved? 15:38 Anything else you'd like to add to that? 15:41 Well, another thing that we don't often think of 15:43 specifically as a major stressor of life and it may not be, 15:47 but it's another point and that is avoiding clutter. 15:50 AVOIDING CLUTTER... Avoiding clutter.. 15:53 When you get in a car every day that's cluttered with stuff; 15:56 go home every day and the main 15:58 rooms you live in are cluttered with stuff, 16:01 just avoiding clutter is very important. 16:04 So start your day slower, limit the number of decisions 16:06 required through getting rid of the junk mail 16:08 and telemarketers and whatnot, and regulate the amount 16:12 and intensity of activities as well as avoiding CLUTTER! 16:16 My wife and I, since she's a professional too, 16:19 and she works full-time, we kind of share the housework, 16:24 and we even have to, at times, have had somebody come in 16:26 and help us with that because we just get so busy 16:29 with our work. 16:30 But we went together to kind of a housework seminar one time 16:36 by a professional and this person was a real professional. 16:39 It was fun to watch them... It sounds like a very 16:40 exciting seminar - a housework seminar! 16:42 It was only a half a day... she was great! 16:46 It was a passion for her doing housework, 16:49 and so she had all these different tips. 16:51 But one of the things she said that stuck with me... 16:53 Has influenced me from that point on... 16:55 Every room in our house, our car, cluttered places 17:00 or most of them are 5 minutes from being clutter-free. 17:04 ...5 minutes from clutter... 17:06 Now not 5 minutes from being clean, 17:09 like my wife considers cleanliness, 17:11 maybe clean like I might accept it, 17:14 but being from clutter-free 17:16 from stuff just laying all around. 17:18 You can go through quite quickly in a room 17:20 that's really cluttered and it IS stressful for most people 17:23 to be in cluttered areas all the time. 17:25 Especially at night when you trip over that stuff... 17:27 You know, the average executive's desk 17:31 has 36 hours of work sitting on the desk. 17:35 At times, mine has been known to have more than that! 17:38 And the best time management experts say it's best 17:44 to have a clutter-free desk. 17:45 To take that stuff and put it in another drawer, 17:49 so it kind of sits out of sight and then prioritize it 17:52 if you can so that you can start working off the top of it, 17:55 but only have the thing on your desk 17:57 that you're working on - one thing at a time on your desk 18:00 Now, you know, I try to do that; most of the time I'm not there, 18:04 but I know the goal and you know what, 18:07 I work better, I work faster, it's a better feeling... 18:11 All the way around, it's less stressful. 18:13 Less stressful to be in a clutter-free environment. 18:15 And clutter-free is not clean, but it's much less stressful. 18:21 I must confess to you - that I think my office 18:22 is about 7 minutes away from being clutter-free, 18:26 but I like the point and I'm sure my wife 18:29 will like the point too as she hears this. 18:31 Well moving from the clutter-free environment 18:34 which is, of course, good and it's a great thing, 18:37 and I do feel better too when my desk is clutter-free... 18:40 What about so many global things that are happening? 18:43 Now so many things seem to be bombarding the individual 18:46 at least in the affluent society of America, 18:50 what can we do to get a handle on that? 18:51 Is there any way we can manage that? 18:54 Don, we live in a world in which living is change. 18:57 Life is changed today. 18:59 So many changes taking place so fast in our lives. 19:03 And the experts again, suggest that there's only a 19:07 certain amount of change that we can handle at any one time 19:10 and then we actually, just in the change perspective alone, 19:13 it's a whole change theory of stress; 19:15 saying that stress is primarily change, 19:18 and you get too much of it and you're overloaded, 19:21 and you can literally start to have health breakdowns 19:25 that adversely affect your immune system. 19:27 There has been a scale that is probably the most scientifically 19:37 validated instrument for measuring the amount of stress 19:41 that we're under and it is what is called the "change scale" 19:46 developed by Dr. Thomas Holmes and Richard Rahe, 19:49 University of Washington 19:50 Thomas Holmes, I believe, is deceased now, 19:53 and Richard Rahe is at the University of Nevada, 19:55 at Reno at the present time. 19:58 But this is a scale that took the 19:59 death of a spouse at 100 points. 20:01 It has 43 items on it and all the way down to 20:05 Christmas being 12 points, traffic ticket being 11. 20:08 So even things that we think are good are actually stressful 20:11 That's one of the things we learned from that scale. 20:14 You can have up to, like 300 points and not be 20:18 high stress - but you get over 300 points and your chances of 20:21 a major illness or accident in the next 12 months are like 80% 20:27 And I've had people in my seminars that have scored 20:30 500-600 points on those tests, 20:33 and they're really in a danger zone. 20:35 Now it doesn't mean that that means definitely 20:38 they're going to get serious illness or be in an accident, 20:42 but it means they need to be much more alert 20:44 and they need to be working on some things in their lives 20:48 and one of the things, some other stress principles 20:50 one of the things that is highly recommended, Don, 20:53 is if you're in a change time of life, 20:58 slow down the number of changes in your life 21:02 as much as you're able to do. 21:04 In other words, when you have all the stress going on, 21:07 it's not a good time to get a new house 21:09 and move across town if you have a whole bunch of 21:11 other things happening. Exactly right! 21:16 For instance, if someone is going through a divorce, 21:17 oftentimes, they'll even leave a community... 21:20 Not a good thing to do... Not a good thing to do because 21:24 they're upsetting their social support system; 21:26 they've got to reestablish themselves somewhere... 21:29 That means new shopping areas; 21:31 it means new physicians; 21:32 it means so many changes taking place in their lives, 21:37 MAJOR things that they can easily spike over 300 points 21:40 precipitated by that one change and then they chose 21:44 to make other major changes without thinking about 21:47 the consequences of that. 21:48 But we suggest people slow down. 21:50 The death of a spouse - sometimes the surviving spouse 21:54 will move quite quickly. 21:55 We suggest SLOW that down and spend some time 21:58 to get readjusted before you 22:00 make any other major moves during that time. 22:02 Well what about our schedules? 22:03 Many times they stay so packed with different things, 22:05 what can we do about that? 22:06 Well, as hard as it seems, our recommendation is to 22:11 monitor their schedule and and it so that it's not... 22:15 you know, regulate it so that it doesn't get out of control, 22:18 and when it does, we just put the most important things 22:20 at the top and do the best we can with them, 22:24 and when you go to bed, you have to go to bed with 22:25 peace in your heart knowing you did the best you could 22:27 for the day and forget the rest 22:29 of it and just go to bed with peace. 22:30 Finances? 22:31 Finances - a major one, a major one today. 22:35 And I can tell you that one of the greatest stressors, 22:40 my wife can tell you - is if I even THINK I'm getting close to 22:44 being in debt, it overwhelms me. 22:47 It overwhelms me, yeah it does... 22:49 And even though I teach all this stuff, 22:51 you know, I just want to stay as far away from the debt ditch 22:54 Avoid it like the plague. 22:56 Now, the interesting thing is, I've got in front of me 22:58 right now, the August 27, 2001 issue of "Newsweek" 23:03 and the cover article is "Maxed Out" 23:05 And it's talking about... It says, "American consumers 23:08 are drowning in debt... How to swim to financial security" 23:13 Do you know that the American public today is 23:17 7.3 trillion dollars in debt, 5 trillion of that is 23:24 mortgage debt but can you imagine that half of the 23:31 mortgage debt is in credit card debt. 23:33 What I mean by that is half the amount of mortgage debt 23:40 is credit card debt. 23:41 It's almost all credit card debt and card debt, 23:45 larger interest rates. 23:47 So many people are having record bankruptcies 23:50 and so many people are just drowning in debt, 23:53 and that is a GREAT stressor. 23:56 So what do we do about it? 23:57 Well, there are some things that can be done. 24:02 The Bible says in Proverbs - 24:08 That's the truth! So we know that the goal is 24:11 not to be in slavery to a lender if possible. 24:15 Now the rules of thumb for indebtedness is... 24:17 #1- Don't charge an item that goes down in value. 24:22 Now that's not like a home - a home is not a depreciating item. 24:25 A home is an appreciating item. Hopefully... 24:28 Cars and a lot of things that are purchased by credit cards 24:33 ...most things that are purchased by credit cards 24:37 depreciate in value. 24:39 And 60% of the people that use credit cards 24:43 do not pay them off at the end of the month. 24:44 Sixty percent?... 60% Amazing! 24:46 And secondly, don't borrow to invest in speculative ventures. 24:50 I know it should go without saying and the recommendations 24:55 by the finance experts is, "Don't borrow money 24:58 to pay another debt. " 24:59 Even though you're borrowing with less interest; 25:02 even though you're consolidating - 25:05 because what happens is generally people 25:07 like they'll refinance their home at a 25:09 lower interest rate in order to pay off debt, 25:11 but when they do that, their credit cards - 25:14 they start putting up their credit cards again, 25:19 charging on their credit cards, 25:20 so then they get right back into debt again. 25:23 Now here are the 3 suggestions for getting out of debt... 25:26 #1- Incur no new debt... If you just make THAT 25:30 commitment - I will incur no NEW debt, eventually 25:34 you'll get out of debt. 25:35 If you can make your payments, even the minimum payments, 25:37 eventually you'll get out of debt. 25:38 So just make that decision - 25:40 We're not going to buy anything new; 25:41 we're not going to start out on anything new. #1- Yep 25:44 #2- When you pay off your smallest debt, 25:47 add that amount toward the retirement of your 25:50 next smallest debt. 25:53 Now even though it may not be as much interest 25:56 as another one, what you want to do is 25:57 get a sense of momentum. 25:58 So you have one credit card with $87 on it, 26:01 another one with $214 and another one with $2,000 on it; 26:07 you pay off your smallest one first and get it paid off 26:10 as fast as you can - then take that payment 26:13 and turn it right over and add that to the payment 26:15 you're making on your 200-and-something-odd-dollar one 26:17 When you get done with that, add those 2 payments 26:19 additional to that larger one and just keep doing that 26:23 until you get out of debt. 26:24 It may take several years, but it's worth it to do it. 26:27 Then continue following those 2 steps until you're out of debt 26:29 What if you're really deep in debt? 26:31 There's no other way than to follow the same process, 26:34 but you may need to - if you're so deep that you're facing 26:37 bankruptcy, you may need to go to a counselor, 26:39 and consult a financial counselor. 26:44 So these are very practical things from clutter to 26:47 what you do with your cash when it talks about 26:49 life management. 26:50 What one thing would you like to leave with people 26:53 as they're looking over this whole idea of life management? 26:55 Well Don, as redundant as this may seem, 26:57 as often as I refer to this, it's because it's so important 27:00 and that would be the Serenity Prayer 27:03 Every day and my wife can tell you how many situations 27:07 I say... How does this Serenity Prayer apply to this situation? 27:12 And then we think it through. 27:14 What are the things that we can do nothing about? 27:17 If we can identify those things, 27:20 then release them to God. 27:21 He can do something about them - we can't. 27:23 So don't spend any energy on them, 27:25 and then focus on the things you can do something about. 27:29 It may be very small, but focus on those things, 27:32 and work on those things. 27:33 Do the best you can on those things, 27:35 and go to bed every night with peace in your heart. 27:37 We've been talking with Dr. Skip MacCarty. 27:40 We've been talking about stress... 27:42 how we can get a handle on it. 27:43 We can have not negative stress but positive stress 27:48 as we look at life management. 27:50 You can find out more information about 27:52 Dr. MacCarty's seminar by contacting us here at 3ABN. 27:56 Thanks for watching us today. |
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