Participants: Allan Handysides, Don Mackintosh
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000100
00:47 Hello, and Welcome to Health For A Lifetime.
00:49 I'm your host, Don Mackintosh. 00:51 We're glad you're with us, and doctor we're glad you're 00:53 with us as well. 00:55 Thank you. 00:56 Dr. Allen Handysides is the, well actually you're in charge 00:59 of the Health and Temperance Department for the 01:01 Seventh-day Adventist church worldwide, and your background 01:06 is that of dealing with children, Pediatrics and also 01:09 with women's health issues, that being Obstetrics 01:12 and Gynecology. 01:13 Is that right? 01:14 That's correct. 01:15 So today we're going to talk to men. 01:16 I can't imagine this, talking about women's health issues! 01:19 We want to talk about women's health issues, 01:21 and so what would you say some of the most important women's 01:26 health issues are? 01:27 Understanding that with two men talking here, 01:29 we could get in trouble. 01:30 Well, one of the issues might be why we're talking about it when 01:34 it ought to be two women talking about it, 01:35 but it is because we love them so much. 01:37 Yeah, at least I love my wife, and I'm sure you do yours. 01:40 Yes, I love my wife too. 01:42 And, really, women's issues are traditionally seen in terms of 01:47 things like breast cancer, cervical cancer, uterine cancer, 01:52 ovarian cancer, maybe childbirth problems. 01:58 And I would like to put another one in there: smoking. 02:03 And an extra one maybe: obesity. 02:07 I think these are current health issues for women. 02:11 Okay, I'm surprised that you would put smoking up there 02:14 on that list. 02:15 Why would you put it up that high? 02:17 Because there are more women that died this last year of lung 02:22 cancer than died of breast cancer. 02:24 Now that's a statistic that many women are unaware of, 02:28 but it's a fact, and here in North America the statistics are 02:35 more women are dying of lung cancer than breast cancer. 02:39 Has it always been that way? 02:40 Or is that a new phenomena? 02:41 No, this is a new phenomena. 02:43 We've seen the rate of lung cancer climbing steadily, 02:49 and reached this cross-over point just this last year. 02:54 And that's because of the increasing number of women 02:57 that are smoking. 02:58 Now is that a reflection of people that started smoking 03:01 10, 15, years ago, 20 years ago, or is that, ah... 03:04 Unfortunately. 03:06 Okay. 03:07 Unfortunately, it's a reflection of what they were smoking in the 03:09 past, but we know that more young women today are smoking 03:14 than have ever been smoking in the history of women in America. 03:19 And so we expect this number is going to increase. 03:23 We're going to reap a dreadful harvest 10, 15, 20 years 03:28 from now among the young women that have begun smoking. 03:32 So would it be fair to say that the single most important thing 03:34 you can do if you're a woman watching today, this program, 03:37 as we're talking, is if you're smoking, is to stop smoking. 03:39 I would say that for all the things we talk about, 03:43 and we're going to talk about quite a few things today, 03:45 but if you're smoking, if you're a woman that's smoking; stop. 03:48 And if you're a young lady that is contemplating starting 03:52 smoking; stop. 03:54 Stop and think. 03:56 What is it that you are going to do? 03:58 Because about 70% of young people who smoke 2 cigarettes 04:03 will continue to smoke. 04:05 70% that smoke only 2 cigarettes will continue. 04:08 ...Continue to smoke. 04:09 And that's a dreadful, dreadful statistic because 50% of those 04:14 will die of their cigarette smoking. 04:18 ...Lung cancer or something like that. 04:20 Lung cancer, emphysema, maybe bladder cancer, heart problems, 04:26 a whole host of things that are secondary to smoking. 04:29 What about osteoporosis in women? 04:31 Is that a big issue? 04:32 Yes, now osteoporosis is another of these issues 04:36 that we should mention. 04:37 Osteoporosis is more of a problem for women 04:40 than it is for men. 04:41 Men are protected by their testosterone in that regard. 04:44 I mean the testosterone makes us more bullish. 04:46 You know we get bullheaded, and we get into all kinds of 04:49 other problems because of the testosterone, 04:51 but it does protect our bones. 04:54 Women, when they come to the menopause, then their estrogen 05:00 levels are going to drop. 05:02 If I say estrogen, that's because I'm English, you know. 05:04 The Americans would say estrogen levels. 05:06 Okay. 05:07 The estrogen levels drop, and then they become 05:11 candidates for osteoporosis. 05:13 But osteoporosis, we shouldn't be talking about it in terms of 05:18 the menopause, we should be talking about osteoporosis 05:21 in terms of our 15 year olds. 05:23 What can they do to prevent it? 05:25 Because that's when they are in that positive anabolic tissue 05:29 building stage. 05:30 All their bones are building. 05:31 They're building their bones, you see. 05:32 They're putting money in the bank. 05:34 And if they will do weight bearing exercises, 05:38 if they will stay fit, participate in sports, 05:42 in activities, walking, running, and doing things that will 05:46 stress their bones just that little bit, build some muscle, 05:50 the muscles pulling them, they'll build a denser base. 05:53 Okay. 05:54 So they have more to loose. 05:56 Yeah, then they have more to loose. 05:58 My wife is a classic example. 06:00 She's rather thin boned, and I said to her, 06:03 "I think you'd better go and do a bone density. 06:04 I think you're going to have osteoporosis. " 06:06 So she, you know, went along and had her bone density. 06:09 Fine bones. 06:10 And then she said to me, "But you didn't really think 06:12 that I was going to be. " 06:13 I said, "Yeah, I thought you would be. " 06:14 She said, "But you forget, I'm a farmer's daughter. 06:16 I threw 35,000 bales of hay a summer. " 06:22 And I can throw you too! 06:24 "And I can throw you too!" 06:26 So, what about green leafy vegetables? 06:29 Would that help? 06:30 Well, they do, because, you know. green leafy vegetables 06:32 are a good source of calcium. 06:33 Um-huh. 06:34 And, when I say a good source of calcium, they're not the richest 06:39 source of calcium, but they are a good source, and their 06:43 proportion of absorption is actually greater than milk. 06:46 Now milk, if you are to take it as a source, most people would 06:50 promote milk as a source of calcium, and it is a good source 06:53 of calcium, and it is well absorbed. 06:56 Calcium is well absorbed in milk, but it is not as well 07:01 absorbed as it is from the green leafy vegetables. 07:03 Now, of course, you'd have to eat an enormous amount of green 07:06 leafy vegetables to match what you'd get in the milk. 07:10 But one has to say, if you're talking about milk, 07:13 there definitely should be no fat, or skim milk, because the 07:17 the fat in the milk... 07:18 Oh, excuse me. 07:21 So calcium, plus weight bearing. 07:24 If you just had calcium, it wouldn't help you? 07:26 You had to have to have the weight bearing exercise? 07:28 The weight bearing exercise is so... 07:29 But you know, everything fits together just so beautifully. 07:33 You know, we tend to take everything apart, 07:36 and we look at this like a kid with a flower. 07:39 We pull all of the petals off and we want to... 07:41 but we look at the whole picture-everything meshes 07:44 together so beautifully. 07:45 It's the exercise, the muscular strength, working with the 07:49 bones, the nutrients, everything works together so beautifully. 07:52 Someone told me once that coffee drinking can also lead 07:56 to osteoporosis. 07:57 Caffeine is a definite factor in osteoporosis. 08:03 So is smoking. 08:04 The nicotine is another definite factor in... and it may be 08:09 because they are diuretics. 08:10 It may be that you excrete more calcium because of diuretics. 08:14 So it depletes you of calcium that way. 08:16 Now one of the things we hear a lot about, you mentioned 08:19 already, and that's breast cancer. 08:20 How worried should women be about that, and what can they 08:24 do to avoid it? 08:25 The first thing that I'd like to say to women is that you should 08:28 realize 9 out of 10 breast lumps are innocent, benign. 08:32 They are not cancer. 08:34 If we could get that message across to women. 08:36 That's a very important message because 08:39 so many women are scared of breast cancer 08:41 that they don't follow through. 08:44 I was in-I was down in- 08:46 They ignore it. 08:47 Ignore it. 08:48 I was in Indonesia about eight weeks ago, and a woman came up, 08:52 and we were talking about breast cancer. 08:54 She came up and she showed me her arm. 08:57 And in her armpit she had a lump the size of a chicken's egg. 09:00 And she was saying, "Do you think I should do something 09:03 about this? 09:04 And she had another lump in her breast. 09:07 She was just absolutely petrified. 09:10 And her fear had just made her not do anything about it. 09:13 So fear is a very, very major thing. 09:17 The other thing is self examination. 09:19 I think women need to examine themselves. 09:22 Now the Cancer Society says examine yourself every month. 09:26 What do you do once a month that you remember to do? 09:30 I don't remember to do anything on a monthly basis. 09:32 Change the calendar- besides that. 09:35 But I don't even remember to do that until 3 or 4 days into... 09:38 I think that I would recommend a weekly self examination. 09:43 And for the first month when you're learning how to do it, 09:45 if you haven't been doing it, do it on a daily basis. 09:48 And if you do it daily, you'll go through the full cycle. 09:51 If you're a premenstrual woman, you'll get the full change. 09:54 You'll understand. 09:55 At the end of the month you know your breast. 09:57 And then every Sunday morning, or every Friday evening, 10:01 sometime when you're relaxed, sometime when you can spend 10:04 a little time with yourself without the hassles of the day, 10:06 just quietly, meticulously, and methodically examine the breast. 10:11 There's not much to examining the breast that 10:14 really is mystical. 10:16 You just have to remember to examine from the midline of 10:19 the sternum, down to the rib cage below, right across the 10:23 axilla and up to the clavicle here. 10:25 You can do it in a circular, contour thing, 10:29 or you can do it up and down. 10:31 Use both hands and examine every square centimeter of the breast. 10:36 Anything that you find that you don't understand, 10:39 and you're worried about, you go and get it checked. 10:41 But don't go in a panic, just get it checked. 10:44 Do some things make people, or women, more prone to 10:47 breast cancer than other things? 10:49 There are; for instance the family history. 10:51 Breast cancer is going to involve 1 in 9, 1 in 10 women 10:57 in North America. 10:58 So it's pretty prevalent. 11:00 So the chances are that you'll have somebody in your family, 11:02 especially if it's a big family, that has breast cancer, 11:05 just on that basis alone. 11:07 But if you have a very strong family history of your 11:11 grandmother, or your mother and her sisters, or aunts and two of 11:18 your sisters have it, then you need to say, 11:20 "Hum, maybe there's a family history here. 11:24 Now they can identify two abnormal genes. 11:27 There are two genes called BRCA 1 and BRCA 2. 11:33 That stands for breast cancer 1, breast cancer 2. 11:37 If these genes are defective, then it seems that there is an 11:41 an inhibition of the protective mechanisms. 11:44 And can you find out if you have those genes? 11:46 Yes, you can. 11:47 Now what are you going to do? 11:49 It's like a dog chasing a car, you know? 11:51 What's he going to do with it when he finds that he's 11:53 got the car, you know? 11:54 It's a big question, you see, because what are you going to do 11:58 if you find you're carrying a gene for breast cancer? 12:01 You're going to get worried if you're one type of person. 12:02 Ah, there's all kinds of problems that come up, 12:05 but you need to think that through, and decide in 12:08 conjunction with a good advisor, with your personal doctor, 12:11 or personal physician, to discuss this issue 12:14 as to what you should do. 12:15 If he and she, or she and he, feel that this is what 12:20 you should do, then you maybe would go through 12:23 and have that testing. 12:24 Okay. 12:25 So, in other words, you don't necessarily have to run and get 12:27 that test, but check with your health care provider, 12:30 and they can let you know. 12:32 What if a doctor does find a breast lump, or if you find one, 12:36 and let your doctor know about that? 12:37 How do they find out whether or not it's malignant or benign? 12:41 I'll give you a classic example in our family. 12:43 My sister-in-law came. 12:45 Her daughter had been married on the Saturday night. 12:49 So the daughter was married. 12:51 Sunday morning, 7 o'clock, knock on the door. 12:54 I was staying out at the farm. 12:56 And she said, "Al, will you come and examine my breast?" 12:59 I said, "Examine your breast?" 13:01 I mean it's 7 o'clock in the morning. 13:03 My sister-in-law's coming wanting me to examine 13:05 her breast! 13:06 But she had found, in the shower that morning, a small nodule, 13:09 just on the median side of her breast. 13:12 I didn't know... 13:13 It was the size of maybe a split pea. 13:15 I couldn't tell whether it was malignant, 13:18 or if it wasn't malignant. 13:19 So I said to her, "You need to have it checked out. " 13:20 What do we do? 13:21 Well, go for a mammogram. 13:23 A mammogram may show small needle point calcifications, 13:28 or it may show slight distortions of the tissue. 13:32 That suggests that there's something growing there. 13:34 It may be a big lump that somebody feels. 13:36 It may be an ultrasound of that breast will show fluid in it 13:40 that it's cystic. 13:41 So you need to have it methodically examined, 13:44 but the gold standard is a biopsy. 13:47 Biopsy: take a tissue sample. 13:49 A tissue sample. 13:50 There are probably 6 or 7 different ways of obtaining a 13:53 biopsy, but depending on what and where this lump is, 13:59 it needs to be categorized as to whether it's malignant or not. 14:03 And time is of the essence. 14:04 This is one of those things that when the woman feels a lump 14:08 she thinks it's an emergency. 14:09 Bang, bang, right now! 14:10 Got to get it out! 14:11 You know, it's panic buttons. 14:13 Okay. 14:14 In reality, it's probably been present for many weeks or months 14:18 before, maybe even a couple of years it's been there. 14:21 So a week or two is not going to make or break it. 14:26 So they need to be reassured, although emotionally they don't 14:29 want to see a lot of time wasted in investigating that. 14:32 And a good physician will see to it that they don't 14:34 wait too long. 14:35 We're talking with Dr. Allen Handysides. 14:37 He's a specialist in women's health issues. 14:39 We hope that you join us when we come back. 14:48 Have you found yourself wishing that you could shed 14:51 a few pounds? 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16:13 Well, you know, this is a very interesting question. 16:17 Hormone replacement therapy came in primarily for the symptoms of 16:21 menopause: hot flashes, and feelings of agitation, 16:26 nervousness, sleeplessness, and so forth. 16:28 When they were introduced they started treating people with 16:32 just estrogens alone. 16:35 It wasn't too long after that that they began to find that 16:39 there was an increased instance of endometrial cancer, cancer of 16:44 the lining of the uterus, so then they added to the 16:49 replacement therapy, the progestin's, so that they would 16:52 more closely mimic the natural cycle of hormones. 16:56 Then there was a fall in the rate of endometrial cancer. 17:01 But there has always been a question of what is happening 17:03 to the breast with the prolongation of these hormones. 17:07 It's not as though the hormones are very high doses. 17:10 In fact, probably, the usual replacement is about a sixth of 17:14 the dose that you would find in a birth control pill. 17:16 But it is known that prolonged usage of birth control pills, 17:20 over fifteen years, is associated with a slight 17:22 increase in breast cancer. 17:23 So this question was raised, and for many years it wasn't 17:27 able to be answered. 17:28 And that's a good sign, that it wasn't able to be answered. 17:30 It means it's not a horrific association. 17:32 But on the other hand, in the last few years, it has become 17:38 clear that there is definitely a slight increase in risk. 17:43 A relative risk increase. 17:44 A relative risk increase which actually goes from about 17:47 a 1 to 1.1, which is a 10% increase in risk. 17:51 So should they, or should they not take hormone replacement? 17:55 Well, you know, it's very easy to say they shouldn't take it, 17:59 but I couldn't say that, and especially as a man, I couldn't 18:05 ay that, because we don't go through the menopause. 18:08 There are a lot of people who would say, don't take the 18:13 hormones at all, but I've suspected they belong to the 18:17 50%, if they're women, who don't have any symptoms of menopause. 18:22 Now there are substances available which are synthetic, 18:25 "hormone like" compounds, and they have good effects on the 18:30 blood lipids, and the heart, and have good effects on the 18:33 bone for osteoporosis, but they don't control the symptoms. 18:37 So, really, you could make a good case for being on hormone 18:42 replacement therapy, but I'm a little suspicious that all the 18:48 information is not in yet, particularly as I'm watching 18:51 the literature, I see that some of the reports on the benefits 18:56 to the heart are not panning out as much as they had 19:00 said they would. 19:01 See, we used to argue that... 19:04 It would be good for the heart to take those additives. 19:06 Yes, we used to argue that you would get a 40% reduction in 19:10 cardiovascular problems. 19:11 Well, seeing as about 600 women per 100,000 women in the 19:15 65 to 75 age group, or 10 years there anyhow, would die of heart 19:21 problems, a 40% reduction was a considerable improvement, 19:26 and offset a 10% increase when the numbers of women who were 19:31 dying of breast cancer were only about 111. 19:33 In other words, you had six times more heart disease, 19:36 so you should have a 40% reduction of something that's 19:38 6 times more, is much more important than a 10% increase 19:43 in something that's 6 times less. 19:45 But, on the other hand, it looks as though those benefits 19:48 to the heart may not be coming out in some of the 19:51 long term studies. 19:52 Not as pronounced. 19:53 Now, you know, some people may be listening that are younger 19:57 women, or are men, like you and I, and they don't know what 20:00 menopause means, or what it's about, or what the symptoms are. 20:04 And I'm not asking you from personal experience to share 20:07 about what that is, but you've seen a lot of ladies, and 20:09 what kind of symptoms are we talking about? 20:11 Do you see these grey hairs? 20:13 That means that I've lived long enough to know what it's like to 20:16 experience the menopause, because my wife's gone through 20:19 the menopause. 20:20 Okay, alright! 20:21 I've experienced it secondhand. 20:23 Okay. 20:24 The menopause comes because the ovaries cease 20:27 to produce eggs. 20:29 And then when there are no eggs coming out, there are none of 20:32 of those cells around that produce the estrogen 20:35 and the progesterone, so there's a hormonal falloff. 20:38 As I said, only half of the women have this falloff 20:42 actually are symptomatic, but the other half 20:45 may be very symptomatic. 20:46 So it varies from a few mild flushes, and a few headaches, 20:52 to incapacitating, and I really mean incapacitating, anxiety, 20:59 restlessness, sweats, and so forth. 21:02 So I never like to say to a woman, you would, or you will 21:06 not, you should, or you should not. 21:07 I like to explain the background, and to look at 21:11 that individuals setting. 21:12 Of course, a lot of women say, well I'll take natural stuff. 21:15 I'll take mine as isoflavones or in soy products or something. 21:20 That, in a way, is a little bit begging the question because 21:23 what you're doing is you're just taking a different 21:25 form of estrogen. 21:26 And you really don't know how much you took. 21:27 And you don't know how much you're taking. 21:28 So to be a purist, and honest, one has to say, well, 21:32 then we're not arguing whether you will or won't, it's how much 21:39 or what kind. 21:40 You don't really even know, right? 21:41 Does this menopause, and the hormonal change, does it effect 21:46 the woman's sexuality, or anything in that regard? 21:48 It appears that a very considerable number of women 21:53 have a decreased sex drive or libido. 21:57 Um... okay. 21:58 Not all though. 22:00 Some in the menopause actually see an increased libido. 22:04 The sex drive comes from testosterone. 22:07 Some testosterone is produced by the ovaries, but there is 22:12 another amount of testosterone that is produced 22:14 by the adrenal glands. 22:16 So the menopause may be associated with a slightly 22:20 relative increase, or it may be a decrease, depending on where 22:26 the prime production of it is coming from. 22:29 You probably see a lot of, speaking of sexuality, 22:36 you probably see a lot of sexually transmitted diseases 22:39 in your practice. 22:43 Can you comment a little bit about that? 22:45 Is that a big problem today in America? 22:47 What's happening in that realm? 22:49 Yes, we're now jumping to a younger group of women. 22:53 Right, yeh. 22:54 Sexually transmitted diseases are a plague to America's 22:58 young women, and young men. 23:00 But to the youth, we've seen large numbers of young people 23:06 with sexually transmitted diseases, sometimes not the ones 23:10 that we have traditionally talked about. 23:12 For instance, syphilis. 23:13 It seems to be somewhat less prevalent than it used to be. 23:17 And gonorrhea is not as prevalent as it used to be. 23:21 Chlamydia is up. 23:23 And why is that? 23:25 I don't know, maybe sensitivity to antibiotics and so forth 23:29 might be partly to blame there. 23:31 Also young women who have Chlamydia infections 23:35 are often asymptomatic. 23:36 The majority of them are asymptomatic. 23:38 So they don't even know that they've got it until maybe 23:41 a late stage, or infertility, when they try to have children 23:44 they can't have children. 23:45 I think a measure of sexual transmission is the human 23:48 papilloma virus. 23:50 Human papilloma virus probably effects more than 35% of women 23:55 in the states. 23:56 Human papilloma virus? 23:57 That's the warts virus. 23:58 Oh, okay. 23:59 Now the warts virus is what kids have on their fingers. 24:02 Right. 24:03 But when we start to see genital human papilloma virus, 24:07 particularly on the cervix, that is one of the ecological agents 24:12 in carcinoma of the cervix. 24:15 Cancer of the cervix. 24:17 That's what you do your pap smears for. 24:19 I see. 24:20 To check and find the carcinoma of the cervix. 24:22 Herpes is another thing that's very, very common. 24:25 And, of course, these are viral infections for which there are 24:30 no eradicative treatment- no known cure. 24:35 So, once you get it, it sits there for a lifetime. 24:39 So these are things that you really want to be careful with 24:42 if you're a younger woman. 24:43 It's not something that is just to be dismissed. 24:46 You need to be very careful about these things. 24:48 Well, what are the things you would tell someone? 24:53 Well, with the advent of penicillin, the young marine 24:54 used to think what it was a shot in the butt, and he was 24:57 on his way again. 24:58 And that was fine in the early days for gonorrhea, 25:01 even for syphilis. 25:02 It was very easily treated with penicillin. 25:07 But we're finding more resistance. 25:10 We're finding more and more of these previously less common 25:15 diseases coming to the fore, and they become much more 25:20 important in society. 25:21 So God's plan is really the best to prevent, because you can't 25:26 really reverse these things once they start. 25:29 There's no doubt about it. 25:30 He had love in His heart, to protect us from things that 25:38 that could come our way. 25:39 In your practice as a physician, you see a lot positive things, 25:43 a lot of babies being delivered, a lot of happy times. 25:46 But when you're dealing with someone... 25:48 You know, I think of the woman in the Bible in Luke 8 that had 25:52 gone to many physicians, and spent all she had, 25:54 and had a flow of blood. 25:56 Or I think about the compassion that Jesus had with women's 26:00 health issues, if you will. 26:02 What story especially grips you, and impacts you? 26:06 What kind of spiritual hope can you give to ladies today? 26:09 That's the story! 26:11 That's a wonderful story-the one that you talked about. 26:13 The implications are sometimes lost on us. 26:16 An issue of blood. 26:17 What could that be? 26:18 Well, if you ask a Gynecologist he knows it's not a cancer 26:20 because she would have died before twelve years were up 26:24 from a bleeding cancer. 26:25 So he goes through: 26:26 Could it be fibroids? 26:27 Could it be a polyp? 26:28 What was the diagnosis? 26:31 It doesn't really matter what the diagnosis was. 26:33 This woman was a social outcast. 26:35 Because of blood impurity. 26:36 Her husband couldn't touch her. 26:38 She was unclean. 26:40 Right. 26:41 So here, if she was young, and she would be young, 26:43 she looses the emotional support of the family. 26:47 In desperation she pushes through the crowd and touches 26:51 the hem of His garment. 26:53 The hem that brushes in the dirt, in the dust, the hem that 26:58 represents the touching point between divinity and humanity, 27:02 heaven and earth. 27:03 And when she touches Him that power goes through her. 27:06 I love the old King James version where it says, 27:09 and He felt virtue had gone out from Him; goodness. 27:13 Boy, it must be amazing to be in a position where sometimes 27:18 you get a little glimpse of what the Master Healer 27:22 must have seen. 27:23 Well, it's nice to be associated with our Lord in healing, 27:26 but we should never, never think that we can be like Him. 27:30 That's right. 27:31 He is so wonderful. 27:32 We've been talking with Dr. Allen Handysides. 27:35 His specialty is women's health issues. 27:37 I hope that today's program has been especially useful to you, 27:41 no matter what age you might be. 27:43 We hope that you've listened to the practical things that have 27:47 been shared today. 27:48 And we hope that as a result of today's program each woman 27:51 that's listening can have health that lasts not just for now, 27:55 but for a lifetime. |
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