Participants: David DeRose, Don Mackintosh
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000081
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00:45 Welcome to "Health to a Lifetime"
00:47 ...FOR a Lifetime, I should say 00:48 I'm your host Don Mackintosh 00:50 Today, I'm delighted to have Dr. David DeRose with me 00:52 Welcome doctor! Good to be with you, Don. 00:55 Now you're a medical doctor, and you work at the 00:57 Lifestyle Center of America... Tell us a little bit about that. 01:00 Well, we're located in Southern Oklahoma, 01:02 and a lot of people say.. "Southern Oklahoma?" 01:04 "Where is that?" It's totally off the map, 01:07 if you will, for most people... as far as your experience. 01:09 But what about midway between Oklahoma City and Dallas, Texas 01:12 ...People come from all over the country, 01:14 and outside the country to focus on 01:17 lifestyle-related diseases in a concentrated way... 01:20 whether it be diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, 01:24 a host of problems.. we address there with a Christian staff 01:28 in a very structured focused approach. 01:31 It's a beautiful facility... 01:32 I've been able to visit there once, driving up FROM 01:35 the Dallas area, and then I was able to stop in there 01:38 and it's nice on that hill... 01:40 you have all those walking trails; a beautiful facility. 01:42 You also do research, don't you? 01:44 You publish papers and what-not in the medical literature. 01:47 Exactly, we've been trying to say, 01:50 "Look at it, if the Lord has given us light that makes 01:53 a difference as far as health, 01:54 we should be able to demonstrate it in a way that actually 01:58 changes the world's perspective. 02:00 You see, a lot of times people will say... 02:01 "Well, now that's RELIGION, don't bring that into the 02:04 medical dialog" But what we're saying... 02:06 Look-it, I mean, God doesn't work OUTSIDE of natural laws 02:11 typically... Yes, He does the miraculous, no question! 02:13 But God chooses, typically, to 02:16 work through the laws of our being. 02:18 He shows us how to cooperate with Him... 02:20 And so we believe that sound science and true 02:24 Biblical revelation are in total harmony, 02:27 and that we can demonstrate that. 02:29 That's one of our focuses there at the 02:30 Lifestyle Center of America. 02:32 We're going to talk today about weight management, obesity. 02:36 How big a problem is it, and why should we even talk about it 02:39 Some people are going... "Oh no, here it goes again" 02:42 Tell us a little bit about the magnitude of the problem, 02:45 and HOW we can address this. 02:47 The reason for talking about it, Don, is not to put 02:49 another guilt trip on people. 02:51 I mean, we got Madison Avenue saying... 02:53 "Look it, if you can't fit into this, size 5 dress, 02:57 you're no good" We don't need anymore of that. 03:00 God doesn't say, "Look it, if you weigh so much 03:04 on this chart, then you can... you know, be in My kingdom" 03:07 Forget all that stuff... 03:09 God accepts us right where we're at on the basis 03:12 of His gracious sacrifice of His Son. 03:15 We don't have to worry about our weight, 03:16 as far as our standing with God... 03:19 BUT, as Christians, God wants to give us abundant life, 03:25 and it's true that overweight is a burden on our bodies. 03:28 I mean, it's hard on our joints. 03:30 It increases our risk of certain types of cancer, 03:33 and heart disease, and high blood pressure and diabetes. 03:36 And we see people at the Lifestyle Center with these 03:40 kind of problems, and we see people with amputations. 03:42 We see people with blindness. 03:45 We see people who have had strokes. 03:46 And many times, one of the risk factors that help to 03:51 contribute to the state of dis-ease, 03:54 was being overweight. 03:56 So we need to talk about this subject... 03:58 not to put a guilt trip, but to give people some help, 04:00 some resources that can help them be successful. 04:02 It even starts when we're young, doesn't it? 04:04 No question about it. 04:05 I mean, it's easiest to learn new habits when we're young, 04:09 but it's never too LATE to learn. 04:11 Okay, you know, let's talk about that... 04:13 When we're young, I mean, I've noticed, I read a 04:15 little bit of research about this once, 04:16 about how supermarkets are organized. 04:19 And they're all organized so that people will make the choice 04:22 for this food or that food... 04:23 You can't just go in there... 04:25 I remember I wanted to display some product that I 04:27 happened to be involved with a few years back before I 04:30 was a nurse, and now a pastor... 04:32 And I wanted to display some things in the store, 04:35 and they said, "No, this is where that goes, this is where 04:37 this goes and it's a highly competitive thing. 04:40 And it has all to do with food choices. 04:42 What can you tell us about food choices, and how to make them? 04:45 Well, you know, food choices are typically made 04:49 because of what we THINK we like. 04:52 But I like to change that whole perspective, Don... 04:56 because what the research shows us is that we don't 05:00 CHOOSE the foods that we like anywhere near as much 05:05 as we like the foods that we choose. Um hmm 05:09 You say... come on here, right, we're playing with words here. 05:13 Yeah, semantics... you figure that... you send a guy away 05:15 to school for years, and years, and look what happens to him. 05:18 Don, here's the point... 05:20 ALL of us, when we were growing up, 05:22 you know, coming back to these childhood influences, 05:24 CHOICES were made for us. 05:26 And we developed tastes; 05:28 we developed enjoyments. 05:29 You know, I ask groups, when I speak with them, 05:31 I say, "How many of you have ever been at a table 05:37 where foods from another culture were being served?" 05:40 Can you relate to that? Yes! 05:41 And I've been at those tables but it's not a NORMAL thing 05:46 Not a normal thing, but let me ask you this... 05:47 "Have you ever been served some just WONDERFUL FOOD 05:50 to people of a certain culture that you tasted, 05:54 and, I mean, it just didn't cut it?" Yeah, I have. 05:57 You can relate to that? Uh huh.. 05:59 Do you mind me just being curious and asking what it was? 06:02 Well, it was, in this particular case, I was in Romania 06:06 and there was a great spread of things, 06:09 and there was eggplant that was called "vinete" 06:12 and it was this pureed eggplant... 06:14 They were all talking about how wonderful it was, 06:16 and I was going... "Yeah" 06:18 You know, I was just going... da... da... da... DUH 06:22 So it really didn't really... No, it didn't cut it. 06:24 Not too tasty? No Okay 06:25 Here's the point. 06:26 Were your taste buds different than those Romanians there? 06:30 Ahhh... No. Yeah, the same taste buds 06:33 How come something that's so delicious to them, 06:36 and, you know, to you... I mean, you could say 06:38 If I gave you 5 choices, that would probably be the last one 06:41 Right? Right, it would be the last one. 06:43 Well this is a common experience. 06:45 Why do we like the foods we like? 06:47 The good news, Don... There's good news about this! 06:50 God has created us with the ability to choose 06:54 what we will enjoy. 06:56 So I am going like vinete. 06:59 I'm going to like this eggplant 07:00 spread by the end of this program? 07:02 Don, here's how it works... Okay 07:04 If you habitually make choices, 07:07 you know, provided you're not allergic to the food, 07:10 or, you know, were sick the first day you ate it... 07:14 and was vomiting, and there's some association in your brain 07:17 with that and the illness. 07:18 The point is, if we habitually make choices, 07:20 we actually tend to develop enjoyments. 07:23 I mean, we've all seen this, 07:24 and it's been shown in the medical research literature... 07:26 Classic study, I love this study. 07:28 It was done in New York City. 07:30 It was the pilot study for something called the... 07:32 "The WINS Study" Wins? 07:33 Yeah, WINS... Women's Interventional Nutritional Study 07:37 It's a study that's ongoing right now. All right 07:40 The hypothesis behind this study is that women 07:44 who have had breast cancer, if they eat a high fat diet, 07:47 will increase the risk of recurrent breast cancer. 07:51 So, the way this study was designed is they were going to 07:54 help women decrease their fat consumption... 07:57 Say goodbye to the fat taste... 07:58 Yeah, say goodbye to high fat foods at least. 08:02 And then, they predicted that these women would have 08:05 less risk of breast cancer RECURRENCE as time went on. 08:09 But here's what happened, Don... 08:11 BEFORE the funding agencies wanted to shell out the bucks, 08:14 this is a huge study taking place through multiple 08:16 centers throughout the country 08:18 I mean, I'm sure the budget is, I'm sure, in the millions. 08:21 Before they funded it, they said, 08:23 "We want to make SURE that you can get women 08:25 to decrease their fat consumption. " 08:26 So they did this pilot study to see if the intervention worked. 08:30 To see if nutritionists could help women who had had 08:34 breast cancer decrease their fat consumption. 08:36 They couldn't do it. Believe it or not, they could! 08:39 They DID? They did... it worked! 08:40 They went from maybe 35 to 40% of their calories 08:43 as fat, and that's pretty typical in America... 08:46 down to 20 to 25%. 08:48 I tell you this story because here's what happened... 08:50 The majority of those women who dramatically 08:54 decreased their fat consumption 08:56 they lost the taste... 09:00 In fact, they developed a DISTASTE for the high fat 09:04 foods that they used to ENJOY! HOW? 09:08 Their tastes had changed by CHANGING their CHOICES. 09:11 Okay, they made the decision. YEAH! 09:13 So here's the message, Don... 09:15 When people are sitting here, they're listening to us talking 09:18 And they're saying, "But I LIKE my high fat foods" 09:20 "I LIKE the foods I'm eating" 09:22 God has given them the ability, if they make changes 09:25 and stick with them, to develop new enjoyments. Okay 09:29 Now, you know, I've heard that it takes about 90 days 09:32 to get over the fat taste, is that right? 09:34 You know, what I find, Don, is the taste and the desire 09:39 for things has a lot to do with several questions. 09:42 One that we should talk about first is the whole issue of 09:46 "addictions" 09:48 Now when I start talking about addictions when it comes to food 09:51 I mean, I'm sure we've got psychologists and psychiatrists 09:54 listening in and they say, "Dr. DeRose, he's specialty 09:57 internal medicine, preventive medicine, 09:59 master's in public health... those aren't psychological 10:02 degrees... I mean, he's on thin 10:03 ice when he's talking about "addictions" 10:05 Okay... we don't have to use the word "addiction" 10:08 A lot of our viewers can relate though. 10:10 Let's use the words "problem foods" 10:13 As I work with LOTS of people, hundreds of people with 10:16 weight problems... Almost every single one of them 10:20 has some problem foods. 10:22 Whether you call it an addiction or not, 10:23 there are foods that they can't control consumption of. 10:26 Brownies! Could be brownies! 10:29 Another one on the list that's often high is ice cream! 10:31 Chocolate in general. Chips! 10:34 People say... MANY people say... not everyone 10:37 "They say, I can't control my consumption of that food" 10:40 That food THEN, is a problem food for you. 10:42 Whether you call it an addiction or not. 10:44 You know what you need to do with problem foods 10:46 if you want to develop new tastes? 10:48 Don't have them... at all, EVER. That's right! 10:50 Clean break! Just like the alcoholic, 10:52 walks away from the alcohol. 10:54 Just like the nicotine addict 10:55 has got to walk away from nicotine... 10:57 If you've got an addictive relationship... 10:59 A "problem food"... okay whatever term you want to use 11:03 The way to develop a new enjoyment is to walk 11:06 away from it... make a clean break! 11:08 Don, it's the path to freedom. It's the path to freedom. 11:12 A lot of people, I ask them this question... 11:14 my favorite question that I ask about... Okay 11:16 this topic of my group. 11:18 So I'll ask you! All right, go ahead. 11:19 What sounds more appealing to you? 11:21 To deny yourself for a little while... 11:26 or to deny yourself for the rest of your life? 11:30 For a little while. SEE! You've done it too! 11:33 You made a brilliant argument for making clean breaks. 11:37 Ha, ha, ha... No think about it. 11:38 When you deny yourself... for a little while... 11:42 for a little while, you know what that is? 11:45 That's the "cutting back program" 11:46 That's what most people... 11:47 They say, "Well, I'm just denying myself a little" 11:49 "You know, I'm just going to eat ice cream once a week. " 11:52 That's TORTURE! 11:53 Because you're telling yourself the whole time that 11:55 ice cream is good... It's a reward, 11:56 but you got to deny yourself. 11:58 That's the denying yourself for a lifetime! 12:00 The easiest way is to make a clean break... 12:04 It's tougher at first, but then the Lord helps you develop 12:07 new enjoyments. 12:08 I'm going to try it! 12:10 I think... Now I'm going to try that vinete... 12:12 that eggplant stuff just when I get home. 12:15 I'm going to say, "Fix it up" and I'm just going to eat it. 12:18 So, if my mother-in-law is watching, 12:20 she's going to be happy! 12:21 Can you explain to us... 12:22 we've got about 1-1/2 minutes before the break... 12:24 Let's get started on this at least... 12:25 How the way we eat affects our weight... 12:29 What are the issues that are important there? 12:30 I would say one of the most important that we've got to 12:32 talk about is meal-timing. 12:35 It's an underestimated factor. 12:37 There's a lot of misinformation about meat-timing. 12:40 In a nutshell, and we'll explore this more in detail. 12:43 Eat a GOOD breakfast, midday meal - excellent. 12:46 Those calories you eat at night, 12:48 you've got to be extremely careful with. 12:50 Okay, so... BIG breakfast, big lunch? 12:55 Big lunch isn't bad if you need a fair amount of calories. 12:59 If you're really trying to trim down, 13:01 you may want to watch the size of the lunch too. 13:02 All right, light supper. Light supper 13:05 We've been talking with Dr. David DeRose 13:08 If you'd like more information on the weight loss program 13:11 there at the Lifestyle Center of America, 13:13 or more information that you can just use in your own house, 13:16 your own home, your own community, 13:18 you can contact the Lifestyle Center of America 13:20 at their web page at www. lifestylecenter. org 13:25 ...Boy, it's hard for me to say "org" for some reason. 13:27 Or, you can call us here at 3ABN and get the contact 13:31 numbers from us. 13:33 When we come back, we're going to talk more about 13:35 weight management. 13:36 We're going to talk more about what YOU can do to be successful 13:39 Join us when we come back! 13:43 Have you found yourself wishing that you could shed a few pounds 13:45 Have you been on a diet for most of your life... 13:48 but not found anything that will really keep the weight off? 13:51 If you've answered yes to any of these questions, 13:53 then we have a solution for you that works! 13:57 Dr. Hans Diehl and Dr. Aileen Ludington 14:00 have written a marvelous booklet called 14:02 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 14:04 and we'd like to send it to you free of charge. 14:07 Here's a medically sound approach successfully 14:09 used by thousands who are able to eat more, 14:12 and lose weight permanently without feeling guilty or hungry 14:15 through lifestyle medicine. 14:17 Dr. Diehl and Dr. Ludington have been featured on 14:20 3ABN, and in this booklet they present a sensible 14:23 approach to eating, nutrition and lifestyle changes 14:26 that can help you prevent heart disease, diabetes 14:29 and even cancer. 14:30 Call or write today for your free copy of 14:32 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 14:34 and you could be on your way to a healthier, happier YOU! 14:37 It's absolutely FREE of charge, 14:39 so call or write today. 14:43 Welcome back, we're talking with Dr. David DeRose 14:47 from the Lifestyle Center. 14:48 We're glad you're here today. 14:49 It's good to be with you, Don. 14:50 We're talking about a very weighty matter that being 14:53 weight loss and what not... 14:54 And we're talking about really how to address that. 14:57 We talked a little bit about food choices. 14:59 Do we need to talk about that anymore before we go on? 15:02 Well, there is a lot of about food choices 15:03 that is SO important. 15:05 You know, if I were to say one food choice issue that's 15:09 more important than another... 15:10 We've talked about that problem food issue, 15:12 I mean, that is CRITICAL... 15:14 But the OTHER one... If someone says, 15:15 "I really can't relate to that " "Problem foods"... 15:17 "I don't have any problem foods" 15:19 The other VERY important principle is eating more 15:23 WHOLE, NATURAL, PLANT-BASED FOODS. 15:26 And I mean, it harkens back in my mind... 15:29 to the original diet that the Creator gave. 15:31 Now, I've got, Christians in many walks of Christianity 15:36 and a lot of them say, "Yes, Dave, that's fine. " 15:39 You can point to Genesis 1, and you can say the ideal diet 15:43 is a plant-based diet, but "hey," I mean, Jesus Himself, 15:46 I mean, God the Father, I mean they instituted the sacrificial 15:49 system... I mean, animal sacrifices" 15:52 "It wasn't a flesh-free diet. " 15:54 But you know, it's very interesting, Don, and AGAIN, 15:57 I'm not a theologian here, so some are going to want to 16:00 call me to task... 16:01 But I notice when God seems to be preparing His people 16:05 trying to really communicate with them, 16:08 the truths of His character, He often has a period of 16:11 dietary change. 16:12 It happened in the Wilderness, and God LARGELY withdrew 16:16 flesh foods from the Israelites in the Wilderness. 16:19 There still was the sacrificial system, but MANNA 16:22 was what they were subsisting on... What is it? 16:24 In Genesis, that plant-based diet was designed 16:30 for Adam and Eve who were designed to LIVE FOREVER 16:32 in intimate communion and mental fellowship, as well as 16:36 physical fellowship with their Creator. 16:38 What does all this have to do with what I'm talking about? 16:41 What it has to do with what I'm talking about is 16:43 there seemed to be some unique benefits to that 16:46 plant-based diet, and it's clear when it comes to 16:48 weight reduction, because these plant foods, 16:50 whether it's the fruits, the whole grains, the vegetables, 16:53 they tend to be less calorically dense... 16:56 Does that mean something to you? 16:58 Well, it just means that they are not as hard on your system 17:02 That's right... they don't give you as many CALORIES for sure 17:05 I mean, if we took 2 big vats... and we stick them here 17:08 in front of us... you know one, 17:09 each of them holds... How big would a vat... 17:12 5 gallons maybe? 17:14 Two 5 gallon glass vats, you know, on a 17:16 table here in front of us. 17:17 You fill one with iceberg lettuce. 17:20 You know, we smash it in there. 17:21 You know, we use all our strength. 17:22 We just cram that iceberg lettuce in. 17:24 In another one, we put milk chocolate in! 17:27 Oh man, no question. 17:28 Milk chocolate is going to do you in... it's very dense. 17:31 Yeah, a lot more calories, right? 17:33 Here's the issue... 17:35 When we talk about weight reduction, 17:37 you don't have to cut back on the amount you EAT 17:40 if you cut back on the caloric density. 17:42 If you fill yourself up. 17:44 If you satisfy yourself with these plant-based foods, 17:48 the fruits and the whole grains, and the vegetables... 17:50 You know, people at the Lifestyle Center of America, 17:52 when they come to our program, 17:53 they don't come usually because they want to be vegetarians. 17:57 They know our diet is vegetarian. 17:59 You know, I'll tell you a secret... 18:01 We've had people smuggle meat into the facility. 18:04 Really, and didn't blow up? 18:06 One guy... No they didn't blow up. 18:08 We don't search the rooms. 18:09 He smuggled beef jerky in. 18:11 He was so sure he couldn't survive. 18:13 But you know what he found? 18:14 And he fessed up to this at the end of the program... 18:16 He found the food tasted great! 18:19 He wasn't having to deny himself. 18:21 So here's the point... 18:24 Calorically-dense foods over here, the chocolate, the meat, 18:28 the fat... If you eat those, you're going to gain weight. 18:31 If you want to lose weight, you avoid them, 18:32 and you SHIFT to the plant-based diet. 18:35 Not only does it have less calories, 18:36 it tends to be lower in SODIUM. 18:38 Many people who are carrying some extra pounds, 18:41 have high blood pressure. 18:42 Many of them, if you drop that sodium content, 18:45 the blood pressure comes down. 18:47 Water follows the salt... Water follows the salt. 18:50 That's an interesting thing. 18:51 People with fluid balance problems, they say, 18:53 "Hey, stay away from the water" Right? 18:55 No... as long as your heart is fine and your kidneys are fine, 18:58 drinking more water actually helps to get rid of sodium 19:01 and actually gets rid of excess fluid. 19:04 Same with watching your sodium content. 19:06 The other thing when it comes to these natural food choices, 19:10 is the form of the food. 19:11 A lot of people think it would be excellent to drink lots 19:18 of juice... you know juicing! 19:20 And I've got friends who juice, and I've got patients 19:24 who said, "Listen when I started juicing, 19:25 I started feeling a lot better" 19:27 Well you know WHAT? 19:28 Most Americans are not eating enough fruits and VEGETABLES! 19:31 So SURE, drinking juice... fruit juice and vegetable juice 19:35 is going to give you some benefits. Right 19:36 But when it comes to the calories... 19:39 It increases It does... 19:41 Have you ever made fruit juice, Don? 19:44 Carrot juice. Carrot juice, you've made that? Yes 19:46 How about apple juice? You ever made that? 19:47 Apple juice, celery juice. 19:48 How many apples does it take to make a glass of apple juice? 19:51 Man, it takes a lot! Yeah, it depends on your juicer, I guess 19:54 but maybe 4 or 5 apples... Mine is a Champion. 19:56 It's a Champion? Okay, so you make this apple juice 19:59 okay? Mackintosh apples... 20:00 Mackintosh, hey... great, great. Ha, ha, ha 20:03 You drink that apple juice down. 20:04 How long did it take you to drink a glass of apple juice? 20:06 Well, unfortunately it takes me not very much time at all 20:09 to eat or drink anything. Okay... 20:11 But it would take you a lot longer to eat 8 apples, 20:14 or 5 apples. It would... it would 20:15 Here's the issue... 20:17 The more you refine the food... 20:19 This was actually studied in the medical literature. 20:21 You take the apples, you put them in the form of applesauce 20:25 The applesauce, same number of calories, 20:27 gives you much less satisfaction per calorie. 20:30 You go the apple juice step... 20:33 much less satisfaction per calorie. 20:37 If you want the most satisfaction PER CALORIE, 20:40 CHEW IT... Eat those whole fruits, 20:42 those whole vegetables, those whole grains. 20:44 The Creator really gave us a program to help us 20:47 keep more trim. 20:49 Chew it - don't stew it... 20:50 If you did, you blew it. Something like that. 20:52 Wow, did you just come up with that? 20:54 Just came up with that. Boy, that's impressive! 20:56 Well okay, so, simple foods as grown, back to that again. 21:02 The Genesis diet... 21:03 You know, you had mentioned that God took people into the 21:06 and basically took away all their meat; 21:10 gave them something which they thought was bad, 21:12 but it turned out to be very good... Manna 21:15 But that kind of brings me back to an issue that I think we 21:18 left kind of at the break, and that is... 21:20 When should we eat? 21:22 When did God give that food? 21:23 When should we eat and what should be the largest meal, 21:26 and how and when, and whatever. 21:28 Well, I hadn't thought of the parallel with the manna 21:31 with the coming in the morning, 21:33 but meal timing is critical. 21:35 A lot of people say, "Yeah, Dr. DeRose, I know that... 21:38 You know at night... you know, you're just relaxing 21:41 and kicking back, watching TV maybe... 21:43 so you don't burn the calories" 21:45 No, no no... it's a LOT more than that. 21:47 You are actually a different person, Don, 21:50 at night, than you are in the morning. 21:52 Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde... 21:54 Well, I hope it's not quite that bad! Ha, ha, ha 21:56 I've never lived in your home. 21:58 I guess we did stay in a home together once. 22:00 That's right, it was okay... When we were traveling. 22:02 But here's the situation... All right 22:04 Early in the morning, your body is geared 22:08 for productivity and performance, 22:10 Study after study shows if you eat a good breakfast, 22:13 you perform better! 22:14 The body TAKES calories, and transforms them 22:18 for output early in the day. 22:20 Later in the day, your body moves into a restorative mode. 22:25 Instead of being like you were early in the day, 22:29 the state of what we call "lipolysis" 22:31 "Lipolysis"... Yeah, lipo-lysis. Okay 22:34 Fat breakdown... that's favored in the morning... lipolysis 22:37 Later in the day, as you're restoring body processes, 22:42 you move into a state of "lipogenesis" 22:45 Lipogenesis... The creation of fat. Okay 22:49 So when you eat late at night, 22:50 what's happening is, metabolically, your body is 22:54 primed to take those calories and store them. 22:58 What we want to do is, we want to shift our 23:00 caloric intake to earlier in the morning. 23:02 And now, this brings up another issue. 23:04 And this has been, I think, misunderstood. 23:06 I've read a lot of the medical literature out there, 23:09 and we always get controversy in our program 23:11 because we emphasize 2, or at most 3 meals a day. 23:15 We've always got people saying... 23:17 "Dr. DeRose, you know, my dietician says, 5 meals, 6 meals 23:21 7 meals, I have diabetes!" 23:22 Let me guess, yeah, diabetics. 23:24 "Yeah, I'm supposed to eat throughout the whole day" 23:26 You know what the average diabetic... 23:28 Do you know what happening to that person? 23:29 They're gaining more and more weight, 23:31 and their diabetes is getting more and more out of control 23:35 Because WEIGHT is one of the things that causes 23:37 insulin resistance. 23:39 Insulin doesn't work like it should. 23:40 So I'm a diabetic listening today, I should really 23:43 have just 2 or 3 meals a day. 23:45 Let me tell you though, Don, before we change 23:48 their meal schedule, we change their medication schedule. 23:51 And that's the beauty of a 23:52 lifestyle center approach probably. That's exactly it. 23:55 When people come to our center, or other centers like ours, 23:58 it's a structured environment 24:00 where the doctors are working with them. 24:01 We can change their medications. 24:03 We can get them on an optimal diet. 24:05 We can often, in type 2 diabetes get people off their insulin. 24:10 A paper that we presented in Washington, D.C., 24:12 at a big national meeting in '98, 24:14 we actually showed in a series of diabetes patients 24:17 70% of them, of the type 2 diabetics, who came on insulin, 24:22 were OFF their insulin in just 19 days. 24:24 Amazing! And most of them are overweight, cause we're 24:27 talking about overweight, and that addresses it 24:30 SO, is it fair to say then that if we eat a big breakfast, 24:36 we're going to lose weight? 24:38 Well, actually it really should probably start, Don, at night 24:43 Because if you eat the big meal at night, 24:45 I'll tell you, you can get up as early as you want 24:47 in the morning... You're not going to be hungry 24:48 I mean, you probably still got food sitting in your 24:50 stomach from the night before. 24:52 SO, if you cut out that evening meal, 24:54 you're going to lose weight. 24:56 That's often where it starts. 24:57 And again, if you're on medication for blood sugar, 25:00 you've got to do this with a doctor's supervision. 25:03 Watching... Definitely! 25:04 But dropping off that evening 25:07 meal is a power... and it's been studied! 25:09 It's been studied in the medical literature. 25:10 You change your meal-timing, you lose weight. 25:13 Now, I'm a nurse, but I'm also a minister, 25:16 and I was gripped by that story from Exodus that you shared. 25:19 When you look at that story, you only could get the food 25:23 till 12 noon... it melted away. 25:25 You couldn't get up at night and eat! 25:27 And if you tried to keep it overnight, it went BAD! 25:30 You couldn't have a BIG evening meal! Isn't that amazing? 25:33 Could God have known about the Lifestyle Center? 25:35 Maybe that was His Lifestyle Center? 25:37 Hopefully, the Lifestyle Center is learning 25:40 what God has been trying to teach us 25:43 for a long time, and we're sharing that. 25:45 That's our vision, Don. 25:46 Amazing... So, anything else about the times that 25:49 we should eat... BIG breakfast before what... 9 AM? 25:54 I don't like to specify the times, 25:58 because, you know, different people are on 25:59 different schedules; but what we find 26:01 is many people have weight problems 26:03 ...That evening meal is what really sabotages them 26:06 And a lot of people, one of the keys... 26:07 In fact, a woman in our program right now 26:10 at the Lifestyle Center of America, just left... 26:12 She saw me when she arrived... 26:14 She had talked with me several months before coming. 26:15 She said, "Dr. DeRose, that suggestion worked. " 26:18 She was frustrated! She was a young lady 26:20 actually fairly thin, but still 26:21 had a little bit of weight to lose... 26:23 She didn't know what to do. 26:24 I suggested leaving off the evening meal. 26:26 She said, it worked! 26:28 That was the secret for her. 26:29 You know, I've tried the 2 meals a day, 26:31 and I go back and forth with that, and 3... 26:35 And the reason is, and this is probably the last thing we 26:37 can talk about... But the reason is because 26:41 it's GOOD for me if I eat at 9 and, say, 3 o'clock, 26:44 and nothing else... 26:46 But it doesn't work out with ANYONE ELSE'S schedule 26:48 that I have to deal with, and food is such a social 26:52 thing where barriers are broken down. 26:55 What do you say to someone that has that type of job? 26:58 Well I say, Don... "Welcome to the real world. " 27:01 You know we can talk about all the ideals, 27:04 but, you know, the Lord will help you to say which 27:06 of the ideals can I incorporate in my real life. Sure 27:09 I mean, Jesus stayed up all night sometimes. 27:12 Was that a healthful practice? Not for melatonin. 27:14 Yeah, but you know what? 27:16 God was leading His Son to do that. Yes 27:18 He did NOTHING but what the Father revealed. 27:20 And so you can look on the surface, 27:22 and you can say, "Well, that's really not the best. " 27:24 But listen, I know God's leading in your ministry, 27:26 and He will continue to do it. 27:28 He'll lead our viewers as they take these principles... 27:30 They say, "Lord, what would You have me to do?" 27:33 Give them the guidance and the power to put it into practice. 27:36 We've been talking with Dr. David DeRose, 27:38 and we've been talking about weight, 27:40 how to get rid of it, and how to keep it off 27:42 in a healthy way. 27:44 If you'd like more information, contact the Lifestyle Center at 27:48 www. lifestylecenter. org 27:52 or contact us here at 3ABN 27:54 And thanks for watching. 27:55 We hope you have health that lasts for a lifetime. |
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