Participants: Zeno Charles - Marcel, Don Mackintosh
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000078
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00:45 Hello and welcome to "Health for a Lifetime"
00:47 I'm your host Don Mackintosh 00:48 We're glad you're with us today, 00:50 and we hope that as a result of today's program, 00:52 you're going to have HEALTH! 00:54 You know, today, we have a special guest who can 00:56 talk with us about that, Dr. Zeno Charles-Marcel 01:00 Welcome doctor! Thank you very much, Don 01:02 I love your name, I've said it now a few times, 01:06 and it has that French ring to it, 01:09 but also it just makes you feel COMFORTABLE! 01:11 "Zeno Charles-Marcel" 01:13 Yeah, I feel pretty comfortable with it too. 01:14 You're used to it... You like to live with that name. 01:16 You know, you are a doctor of internal medicine... 01:20 How many years did you go to school? 01:22 Ohhh... too many! 01:23 Sometimes we call it "eternal medicine" 01:27 Quite a long time you had to go to medical school, 01:29 then you did a residency and then probably more after that. 01:32 Yes, and I'm also subspecialized in geriatrics. 01:36 Okay, excellent! 01:37 And then, you're also an associate professor 01:39 there at Loma Linda! 01:40 At Loma Linda University, that's correct. 01:42 Well we're glad that you could 01:43 take some time out of your busy schedule... 01:45 And also, you work in what's called... 01:48 "preventive medicine" or so-called "lifestyle medicine" 01:51 I believe you work at The Lifestyle Center of America 01:53 there in Oklahoma. That's correct 01:55 And, tell us a little bit about that Lifestyle Center... 01:57 How long has it been there? 01:59 Well, we opened our doors in 1996, 02:02 and it's just one of the lifestyle centers 02:06 that exist around the country; 02:08 we're not technically associated with each other... 02:12 But it's kind of the legacy that has been set forth 02:16 that prompted the development of "The Battle Creek Sanitarium" 02:21 W A Y back in the 1800s. 02:23 These Lifestyle Centers are getting a lot of 02:25 press these days. 02:27 They're actually getting funding 02:28 by government agencies now because they WORK! 02:32 That's true! Is that right? 02:33 We are not funded YET by government agencies, 02:35 but some are looking at ways of being able to have that done 02:40 But the principles, like for instance, 02:41 Dr. Dean Ornish with all his studies, 02:44 and some people are familiar with that... 02:46 with the low-fat, low-cholesterol, 02:49 high-carbohydrate diet. 02:50 They're seeing that that works and they're starting to 02:54 at least do studies that may lead to that. 02:57 So you guys are really on the cutting edge. Yes 02:59 Now, at The Lifestyle Center of America, among others... 03:03 I know you're trying to be self-depreciating there... 03:05 in that sense, like you said to me, you don't want to just 03:09 always talk about your program, 03:11 or what you're doing there, 03:12 but I want to talk about WHY it WORKS. 03:14 What happens PHYSICALLY 03:16 to people when they go through a program like that. 03:18 What happens MENTALLY in a program like that. 03:22 What happens to, you know, people SPIRITUALLY. 03:25 What happens to people PHYSICALLY 03:27 when they go through your program? 03:28 I'd step back a little bit and start off with saying that 03:32 simple, natural remedies; simple approaches to things 03:36 applied in faith can actually produce supernatural results... 03:40 And that's what we see at The Lifestyle Center of America 03:42 and we see in other Lifestyle Centers around the country. 03:44 Simple lifestyle measures 03:47 applied in faith get results. That's correct. 03:49 Sounds like something out of the New Testament; 03:51 sounds like something out of the Bible! 03:53 Actually, it's a principle that is found in the Bible. 03:57 And having faith and trust in God to hold Him at His Word 04:01 ...you know, He SAYS, what we should eat, 04:03 and He has given us instructions 04:06 and we're just following those things. 04:09 So the top 3 killers in America, let me see if I'm right... 04:11 Heart disease, #1 Stroke, #2 04:14 Cancer #3 That's correct 04:16 What's #4? Diabetes 04:18 What's #5? I think AIDS is coming up there 04:22 Accidents are high... Pneumonia, infectious diseases. 04:27 Lung problems. Chronic obstructive lung disease 04:29 Okay, those kind of things. 04:30 Are all those kind of things you 04:31 see there at The Lifestyle Center? 04:33 We see all of those, but we pay more attention to 04:36 diabetes, heart disease, high high blood pressure and obesity. 04:40 Now, we look at the causes of disease or the cause of 04:44 death by disease... one way of looking at it is 04:48 actually list kind of disease, 04:50 but another is what's underlying. 04:52 What has caused these diseases... 04:53 And by and far, the #1 issue is DIETARY AND EXERCISE 05:00 Okay, that combination of HOW people live, their DAILY life, 05:03 actually is the GREATEST contributor to premature death. 05:06 So do you have a track there? 05:07 Do you have a physical exercise place 05:09 to address the exercise issues? 05:11 At our place, we have a fitness center, 05:14 and we have lots of trails, lots of walking space, 05:17 ...I should say, outside of the center, that people can enjoy. 05:21 Okay, and then concerning the nutrition and dietary things, 05:26 do you have a kitchen there; 05:27 do you have different things like that? 05:28 We have instruction in how to prepare foods, 05:31 and we have a restaurant where people enjoy 05:36 2 or 3 REALLY first class gourmet meals a day... 05:43 And really, it's an EXCITING thing to be a part of, 05:49 as you see people coming, 05:50 especially when they come in skeptical... 05:52 You know, they're there because they say, 05:54 "Well you know, somebody is forcing me to come" 05:56 "My wife says if I don't do better, 05:59 she's not going to be happy" ... so they COME! 06:02 So they come even with their arms twisted, 06:05 and they feel good when they leave. 06:06 That's right, because they may come skeptical, 06:09 and after they've tried and they've seen, 06:12 they say, "I don't know what I was afraid of; 06:14 I don't know what I was skeptical about, 06:16 this is phenomenal. " 06:17 Well, they've said that the proof is in the pudding... 06:20 the proof is in the details, 06:22 and I think that you brought some details with you today. 06:24 Maybe some physical details... 06:26 What happens to a person that has high blood sugar, 06:29 you know, diabetes in your program. 06:30 Well not wanting to misquote or overstate... 06:33 People in our program... what I have here is a list of 06:37 some of our details with regard to cholesterol, and so on. 06:43 For cholesterol, people who spend 19 days there, 06:47 decrease their total cholesterol by 11.5% 06:51 And what does that mean? 06:53 For every percentage drop in cholesterol, 06:55 what happens to your heart disease? 06:57 They decrease their risk of heart disease by 2-3% 07:00 So if it has dropped that much, it's 50% or more. 07:03 Well, we're looking at 22-33% 07:06 decrease in risk of dying of heart disease... Amazing! 07:11 So what happens then in... 07:12 We also look at the LDL cholesterol that has decreased. 07:15 That's the LOUSY, the BAD cholesterol. 07:17 That has decreased by 13.5% 07:19 The triglycerides tend to be dropping even faster, 07:24 and, on average, we're looking at 20.59%, almost 21% 07:29 DROP in triglycerides for people who come through our program. 07:32 Our HDL cholesterols tend to drop a little bit. 07:36 HDL is the so-called "good" cholesterol, 07:39 and if we look at the people who have the WORST profile, 07:43 that is the MOST RISK for heart disease, 07:44 their HDL cholesterols actually go UP, 07:47 while the LDL cholesterols go down, 07:49 and their triglycerides go down, 07:50 and their total cholesterols go down. 07:51 But overall, the reason they probably drop is because 07:53 the total cholesterol goes down 07:54 and that's a part of the total cholesterol, is that right? 07:56 That's part of the total cholesterol, 07:57 but it also has to do with our particular dietary approach. 08:02 We include in the dietary program 08:07 that people can have nuts, seeds, avocados, olives... 08:11 things like that in moderation. 08:12 These allow for changes in the triglyceride, 08:16 and the HDL cholesterol that we don't see if people 08:19 were to take these out of the diet. 08:21 It would go down much faster. Yeah 08:23 Okay, a question... Why should someone 08:27 go to a Lifestyle Center? 08:29 Lots of people say... "Look I would go across 08:31 the street to learn how to cook different food or this or that 08:35 because I don't want to do it. " 08:36 But why go away and go to a place like a Lifestyle Center? 08:39 We have several different ways of approaching this. 08:43 One is, if someone has a chronic disease, 08:46 or wants to prevent a chronic disease, 08:48 They can try it the OLD way, and the old way is 08:51 they'll THINK about it, they'll think about it, 08:55 they'll say "yes, I'll try it" and they never do it. 08:59 So this jumpstarts them. That's correct 09:02 It's a jumpstart at a new way of living. 09:04 It's NOT just putting the person on a diet... 09:06 It's NOT just an issue of starting them off 09:09 on an exercise program... No 09:11 It's actually showing them and teaching them about 09:13 their body and about the way that they live 09:16 and how the way they live 09:17 affects what's happening to them healthwise. 09:21 But it's not just even telling them about it... 09:23 as they experience it themselves, 09:25 they see the numbers, we have no secrets. 09:27 So, people see what their laboratory tests are; 09:30 they get a full explanation for their laboratory tests, 09:33 and they follow every step of the way - NO secrets. 09:38 It's almost like anything... 09:39 It's like... "Taste and see that the Lord is good" 09:41 the text says... and if you try anything 09:43 at them, you know, the first time you do ANYTHING, 09:46 someone goes with you providing that emotional support 09:48 ...I've been here before, I know what this is like, 09:50 and then go with me. 09:51 I mean this is the way people work... Yes 09:53 I don't know if you've traveled much around the world, 09:57 and probably the first time you went somewhere, 10:00 someone went with you. 10:01 I know that when I went with my wife to Romania, 10:04 she's Romanian, I felt a great comfort that she was with me. 10:08 I've traveled to countries and I didn't know anybody there, 10:10 but I certainly liked it a lot better when someone was with me! 10:13 And then they introduced me to the food and the culture, 10:16 and different things and I would 10:17 feel comfortable going there on my own now! 10:18 That's kind of the idea, probably. 10:20 Even if somebody didn't go before you, 10:22 sometimes having company with you... 10:24 We have found that husbands and wives who come together 10:27 actually do BETTER not only because 10:30 they're learning the same thing but when they get back home, 10:33 what one may have forgotten, the other one says, 10:35 "You know what, we had decided that we were going to do this. " 10:38 So they help keep each other accountable... 10:40 And that is very, very helpful. 10:42 Part of the issue of cardiac rehabilitation 10:45 with the Lifestyle Center, or in the general public, 10:48 we know that if both husband and wife are involved, 10:53 the husband or the wife who has the heart disease, 10:55 actually does better in the long run. 10:57 Does blood pressure come down? 10:58 Blood pressure comes down. 11:00 Uhh, let's see, do I have anything here on blood pressure? 11:02 No I don't, on this list. 11:04 But typically, we see a drop in 11:06 the systolic and the diastolic, the top and bottom numbers... 11:09 I don't have those numbers to give you, however. 11:11 When they go down, so do they go off their 11:12 blood pressure medication if they have it? 11:14 Many people who come in on 11:15 multiple blood pressure medications, 11:16 leave with a lot LESS medication 11:19 that they have to take, and some of them leave without 11:21 having to take any medications at all. 11:22 Do their pants still fit when they leave? 11:25 Most people... No 11:27 We have a statistic with regard to weight loss. 11:31 In terms of pounds lost, we're looking at a 11:38 mean change of about 8.3 pounds in 19 days 11:42 or 4.1% drop in weight. 11:45 So it's not a lot but it's going off like it came on over time. 11:52 The issue with regard to weight loss... 11:54 we allow people to understand that losing weight 11:58 should not be drudgery. 12:01 You see, most people don't start off by saying, 12:02 "Next year I think I'll put on 10 pounds, 12:06 and then work hard to get those 10 pounds off. " 12:08 No, most people just live the way they live, 12:10 and 10 pounds come on. 12:12 So, what we do is we help people to live better. 12:15 When they live better, the 10 pounds come off. 12:18 They don't have to FORCE those pounds off. 12:20 The pounds come off as a BY-PRODUCT of how they're living 12:24 Okay, physically, you put them in this new environment, 12:27 and they have BEAUTIFUL surroundings there... 12:29 I've seen the place, I've been there. 12:31 I actually got a chance to visit there last year, 12:33 and it's a beautiful place, it's a beautiful environment, 12:35 there's GOOD food to eat, there's good people to talk to, 12:38 and they have a lot of social support one with another 12:40 and different things, but what do they do when they go back? 12:42 Well for many people, when they go back home, 12:45 they are also looking for ways that they can incorporate 12:49 what they are doing into their daily life. 12:52 So from the beginning of the program, we tell people 12:55 in a very straight-forward way, 12:57 if you fail to plan, you're planning to fail. 13:00 So we engage them in exercises while they're there 13:04 to plan out things for when they go back home 13:06 so they don't just fall back into what they were doing before 13:10 because that's the EASIEST thing to do. 13:12 If that's the case, then what they would have done 13:14 is they would have had a nice vacation, 13:16 they would have learned a lot 13:17 but it wouldn't have helped them in the long run. 13:19 So we encourage most of our patients, 13:23 actually we encourage ALL of our patients, 13:25 to put into practice the things that they have learned 13:28 and many people are VERY, VERY successful in doing just that. 13:33 We've been talking with Dr. Zeno Charles-Marcel 13:36 He is the medical director of The Lifestyle Center of America 13:39 and they have a web page by that same name 13:42 www. lifestylecenter. org 13:46 If you would like to get in touch with them, 13:47 know more about the programs that he has been talking about, 13:50 but you needn't do that... 13:51 even the principles would help you. 13:53 If you have a friend that needs to be watching this, 13:57 give them a call, join us. 13:58 When we come back, we'll be talking more about 14:01 the changes that can happen 14:02 when we address the issues of lifestyle. 14:04 Join us when we come back. 14:07 Have you found yourself wishing 14:09 that you could shed a few pounds? 14:10 Have you been on a diet for most of your life, 14:13 but not found anything that will really keep the weight off? 14:16 If you've answered "yes" to any of these questions, 14:19 then we have a solution for you that works! 14:21 Dr. Hans Diehl and Dr. Aileen Ludington 14:24 have written a marvelous booklet called... 14:26 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 14:29 and we'd like to send it to you FREE of charge. 14:31 Here's a medically sound approach 14:33 successfully used by thousands who are able to eat more, 14:36 and lose weight permanently without feeling guilty or hungry 14:40 through lifestyle medicine. 14:42 Dr. Diehl and Dr. Ludington have been featured on 3ABN 14:45 and in this booklet, they present a sensible approach 14:48 to eating, nutrition and lifestyle changes 14:51 that can help you prevent heart disease, diabetes, 14:53 and EVEN cancer. 14:55 Call or write today for your free copy of... 14:57 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 14:59 and you could be on your way to a healthier, happier YOU! 15:02 It's ABSOLUTELY free of charge, so call or write today. 15:08 Welcome back, we've been talking with 15:10 Dr. Zeno Charles-Marcel 15:12 We've been talking about GOOD NEWS! 15:14 ...That your lifestyle can be changed, 15:16 and there actually can be proof in the pudding 15:19 the numbers can change physically... 15:20 Things can happen, your cholesterol can lower, 15:23 your blood pressure can go down; 15:25 the need for medication can be even alleviated 15:28 completely in some cases; 15:30 your weight can go down; 15:31 you can have PEP in your STEPS, 15:32 SPUNK in your TRUNK and action and no subtraction! 15:36 AND ROCK IN YOUR SOCK! 15:37 And ROCK IN YOUR SOCK! Okay! 15:39 So that's good news physically, 15:40 and those numbers... those are inspiring 15:43 to hear about those. 15:45 Those things don't HAVE to happen at a Lifestyle Center, 15:48 but it DOES happen there at your Lifestyle Center. 15:51 I want to talk about something 15:53 that a lot of people are concerned about... 15:55 that being nutrition and cognition. 15:58 You know... do you find that the nutritional changes 16:04 people make, the exercise changes people make, 16:07 the lifestyle changes people make... 16:09 What does it do to them mentally 16:12 in terms of their ability to think? 16:15 Most people report an improvement in their 16:18 thinking ability, their sense of well-being and their PRESENCE! 16:24 Some people even go so far as to say that 16:27 they have regained the SPARK 16:29 in their thinking that they thought was long-gone. 16:33 Now, be that as it may, there are some people who 16:36 have other medical conditions that ACTUALLY, 16:40 by working with them in their lifestyle, 16:43 we DISCOVER and we can test for and TREAT 16:47 problems that would have caused them to have 16:50 mental dullness. 16:52 One of the common things that we find at the Lifestyle Center 16:54 particularly in people who are overweight, 16:56 is that they may have obstructive sleep apnea 17:00 that they didn't know about. 17:01 So, in other words, they have these times when they're not 17:05 breathing? Apnea means not breathing. 17:07 Not breathing and this would occur typically at night 17:11 and their spouse might be aware of it; 17:16 the snoring might be loud or whatever. 17:18 Sometimes husbands and wives sleep in different rooms 17:20 because of the loud snoring. 17:21 But it doesn't have to be that way... 17:23 And we discover this... we put them on appropriate 17:29 therapy... By hearing it? 17:31 No, sometimes it's not a matter of hearing it, 17:33 we suspect it. Okay 17:34 We look at the person, we hear the person, 17:36 we perform the inventory that we have 17:42 ...an 18-page inventory that we use - health questionnaire 17:45 and we suspect it, we test for it, 17:47 and lo and behold, the person has this problem. 17:50 By treating it, oftentimes their alertness during the day 17:55 improves and they do very, very well 17:58 with some very simple intervention. 18:00 The long-term treatment, of course, 18:01 is that after they have lost much more weight, 18:04 then they may not even need 18:05 to use the breathing assistive devices that we prescribe. 18:10 So they feel a lot better. 18:11 They are sharper and they finally have gotten rest 18:14 when they never really have been 18:15 getting good sleep. That's correct. 18:17 Similarly, in people who have diabetes, 18:18 by getting the blood sugar under control, 18:20 many people do a lot better. 18:21 They FEEL better, their brains work better. 18:24 We also have a record, if you will, 18:29 of people who did not know that their thyroid 18:33 was not functioning well enough. 18:36 So they actually have hypothyroidism, 18:39 and we discover that while they are there. 18:41 And, by starting them on appropriate treatment, 18:44 and also by the change in their lifestyle which is the 18:48 undergirding of their experience, they do much better; 18:51 they think better, they're thinking more clearly, 18:53 they have more energy and more pep. 18:55 So, we have, depending upon what the circumstance might be, 19:00 we have a whole variety of reasons 19:02 why people do better mentally. 19:04 Now, I've heard a statistic that I don't know if it's true, 19:07 but you may be more up on the literature that 19:09 for every risk-factor that you have, 19:12 so-called risk-factor I guess coming out of the 19:14 studies that were done in the 40s and 50s 19:16 where we learned about heart disease... 19:17 for every MAJOR risk factor that we have, 19:21 there is an effect on our mental sensorium. 19:24 There is a downside for us mentally, have you heard that? 19:28 That is true... I don't know of any current literature 19:32 that has really tried to revive that. 19:35 If we were to look at the risk factors... 19:37 For instance, cigarette smoking, 19:39 it's a clear indicator that people who smoke cigarettes, 19:43 because of the effect of 19:44 the nicotine and the carbon monoxide, etcetera, 19:47 they aren't getting as much oxygen to the brain, 19:50 and therefore, you can EASILY 19:52 surmise that their thinking may not be quite as clear. 19:55 If they have high blood pressure, 19:57 the research has shown that people with high blood pressure 19:59 have a decrease in the white matter of their brain. 20:03 They actually have brain damage if they allow their 20:07 blood pressure to remain high 20:08 whether or not they are treated with medications. 20:10 So, that's an issue! 20:11 People with diabetes can end up with problems 20:15 associated with blood sugar being too high... 20:17 They end up with so-called diabetic dementia... 20:21 Or, if they have bouts of very low blood sugar that 20:24 is sustained over time, then they could end up with 20:27 permanent brain damage. 20:28 So if you could go through ALL of the risk factors 20:30 you can find that these things can affect... 20:32 People with atherosclerosis or coronary artery disease, 20:36 they typically have atherosclerosis affecting all 20:39 of their arteries including their arteries in the brain, 20:41 and this will, over time, decrease the 20:44 person's mental ability. 20:46 They may end up with what we call a "vascular dementia" 20:49 or an "ischemic dementia" 20:51 These things start to reverse in that 19-day program 20:54 or the other programs that you see there. 20:56 Probably if you had alumni meetings, 20:58 which I don't know if you do, 20:59 a couple of years later or something, 21:01 and people, as they are maintaining that program, 21:04 that lifestyle, they would even have more MARKED results! 21:07 Yes, over time, as you persist with a good lifestyle, 21:11 you can also increase the yield, if you will, 21:15 of the reversal of some of the processes that have been started 21:18 Now several years ago, taking some of the principles that 21:21 you have there at your program in my own life, 21:23 I started to move away from the dairy products, 21:25 and from especially the cheeses and different things... 21:28 Now there was a time when I went back, 21:30 and I just had a BIG LARGE CHEESE PIZZA, 21:33 and I could hardly think after that! 21:36 I mean, I felt TERRIBLE! 21:39 I never noticed that before, 21:40 but is that something that we see happening too? 21:44 I mean, my mind - maybe it was and actually is clearer 21:48 because of the things I'm not putting in my system. 21:51 Actually, a lot of people report that same kind of 21:53 phenomenon happening. 21:55 From the scientific standpoint, one possible explanation 21:59 which we can demonstrate, 22:01 is actually what happens when 22:02 you have a lot of saturated fat. 22:06 And that cheese pizza that 22:07 you had is LOADED with saturated fat. 22:09 The saturated fat actually coats the red blood cells; 22:12 so instead of having blood that flows through the 22:16 small blood vessels, the capillaries, 22:17 the way orange juice would flow through your capillaries, 22:22 you end up with something flowing through 22:24 your capillaries more like KETCHUP. 22:27 Now, which one do you think would be able to 22:30 give you more oxygen and take away more of the carbon dioxide? 22:34 Would it be the orange juice-type liquid, 22:36 or would it be the ketchup-type liquid? 22:38 Yeah, I get the point... the orange juice. Yes 22:41 And the reason why I use 22:42 orange juice as opposed to water 22:44 is because the blood actually has these particles, 22:47 these cells in it suspended much like some of the 22:50 particles is suspended in the orange juice itself. 22:52 So people FEEL better and they actually ARE better 22:56 in terms of the facts physically 22:58 and then in terms of what we know scientifically, 23:00 and we start to SEE those improvements MENTALLY. Yes 23:03 Now undergirding all that, you are a Christian physician; 23:07 many of the people that work at 23:09 the Lifestyle Center are Christian, 23:10 they are people of faith... 23:14 I don't believe that you can script anybody into being a 23:18 Christian or whatnot, but do you see a change 23:20 SPIRITUALLY in people? 23:23 For many people who come to the Lifestyle Center, 23:25 as they see physical improvement, 23:27 as they see mental improvement, 23:30 as they begin to relax and get rest... 23:33 some needed rest that they didn't have before, 23:35 as they drink more water and see the effects of 23:38 that on their body, as they exercise, 23:40 and take good DEEP breaths, 23:42 and EVERYTHING ELSE in their life is being enhanced, 23:47 we also find that people have what one might call 23:50 a more spiritual awakening. 23:52 They tend to start taking inventory in their own life, 23:57 and trying to find the things that MATTER to them. 24:00 As they examine that, they come face-to-face 24:03 with the reality of a Creator, a Designer, 24:06 the One who made us and the One who told us... 24:08 "Here is the way, walk ye in it. " 24:10 This is the way to live... I want you to prosper 24:14 and to be in health... 24:15 but I also want your soul to prosper as well. 24:18 Socially? 24:19 Socially, the mix of people that we have, 24:23 people interact during the course of the program, 24:27 and many people remain in contact with each other 24:29 after they leave the program... 24:31 So it's also an enhancement of people socializing. 24:35 We've had some patients who have come through 24:37 who one might call - "social outcast" 24:39 They don't really have a lot of friends and things like that. 24:41 But they come into the environment, 24:43 they meet people who care for them, 24:45 they meet other patients and guests who are there 24:48 who are going through similar kind of 24:50 health challenges and life challenges. 24:52 They may bond with 1 or 2 or 3 people. 24:55 They get to know the whole group and you know what? 24:57 We see these people come ALIVE socially. Is that right? 25:01 We've had some people who, at the beginning of a program, 25:03 have been very shy and introverted; 25:05 really, they weren't REALLY that way, 25:07 they just didn't think that they had anything to contribute. 25:10 By the end of the program, 25:12 these people are the life of the party! 25:14 They blossom because they are in an environment 25:16 that they feel very safe and comfortable. 25:19 Do they want to stay? 25:20 ACTUALLY, as you mention it, there are many people who say, 25:23 "You know, I wish I could stay!" 25:25 Unfortunately, that's not home. 25:30 The Lifestyle Center is actually an artificial environment. 25:32 Right... and they gotta go. 25:33 People come there, they learn some things, 25:36 they experience things, but really, the PROOF, 25:39 and the RESULTS that they get is really when they 25:42 make that transition BACK to home. 25:44 They put the things that we have taught them into practice, 25:47 and they LIVE out a life that is FULLER AND RICHER 25:50 than they thought possible. 25:52 Well they have to go, but you get to STAY, 25:53 and it seems like you really enjoy what you do. 25:56 Well, I love people and I think God has called me 26:01 to be at the Lifestyle Center to minister to people, 26:04 and to help people in whatever way I can... 26:06 And you know, there's an old saying that goes like this... 26:09 "People don't care how much you know, 26:10 until they know how much you care" 26:12 ...And I care a lot about people, 26:14 and sometimes they tell me it shows. 26:16 Maybe some of those people are watching now that have been 26:18 through your program or maybe some people are 26:20 thinking about going through a similar program... 26:22 What would you have to say to them? 26:23 I would say, for those who have gone through already... 26:25 Please keep up the good habits! 26:29 Trust in God. He has shown us the way. 26:32 He will see you through. 26:34 Keep up the good work! 26:35 For those who are contemplating whether they should 26:38 change their lifestyle, that's the #1, 26:41 or whether you want to go to a lifestyle program or not, 26:43 is not really the issue. 26:44 But if you recognize that there are some aspects of your life 26:48 that you would REALLY benefit from by changing, by all means - 26:52 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, 26:54 lean not to your own understanding, 26:56 In ALL your ways, acknowledge Him, 26:58 and HE will direct your path. 27:00 We've been talking to Dr. Zeno Charles-Marcel 27:04 He is the medical director at the Lifestyle Center of America 27:07 located in Oklahoma... actually in-between 27:10 Oklahoma City and Dallas-Fort Worth area. 27:13 And if you would like more information about that program, 27:16 you can contact the Lifestyle Center at their 27:18 web site which is www. lifestylecenter. org 27:24 Or you can contact us here at 3ABN, 27:28 and we can give you information and contact numbers for them. 27:31 They deal with the major illnesses that plague America, 27:34 heart disease, diabetes, cancer, or avoiding cancer, stroke, 27:38 obesity... these types of things. 27:40 And there is just a lot of wealth of information 27:43 that Dr. Zeno Charles-Marcel has shared with us today 27:47 that we hope is helpful to you 27:49 whether or not you attend a Lifestyle Center program. 27:52 We know that as a result of putting these principles 27:55 into practice, you can and will have 27:56 health that lasts for a lifetime! |
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