Participants: Neil Nedley, Don Mackintosh
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000066
00:43 Hello and welcome to "Health for a Lifetime"
00:44 I'm your host Don Mackintosh 00:46 We're glad you're with us today, 00:47 and we're also glad, Dr. Nedley, that you're with us, 00:50 and that you could take time out of your busy schedule 00:53 to help us with a real dilemma... Thank You! 00:56 That real dilemma is depression... Yes 00:59 From what you've told me, 01:01 this affects how many people in America? 01:02 Oh, it affects at least 14 million people. 01:05 About 10% of the population will get depression, 01:10 MAJOR depression at some point in their lifetime. 01:12 What about worldwide? 01:13 Worldwide, it's even bigger than that... 01:17 It's about 200 million people affected worldwide. 01:20 So, no matter if you're here in America watching, 01:22 or around the world, this is a BIG issue. 01:26 And today, we're going to talk about some HOPEFUL ways 01:28 to combat depression, that being those that are 01:30 related to lifestyle. 01:32 These are things that we can actually DO something about. 01:35 We can do something about depression, can't we? 01:38 Oh yes, it's largely a disease of nutrition and lifestyle. 01:42 And if we can get on the right program, 01:45 we can not only prevent it, but often treat it! 01:48 Now, before we kind of get into some of these 01:51 lifestyle factors, I might just mention to our viewers 01:55 that you can actually get Dr. Nedley's book. 01:58 He has written a new book on this; 02:00 it will be out in the very near future. 02:04 Please consider calling 3ABN and getting information 02:08 about that and how to get in touch with Dr. Nedley 02:11 because some of the things we cover today 02:12 ...there's all kinds of footnotes in your book! 02:15 I love that about a book! 02:16 Yes, we document everything from the scientific standpoint. 02:19 You know, your last book, "Proof Positive" 02:21 where you had over 2,000 different studies 02:24 where you could just have at your fingertips, 02:26 and you could find those references... 02:28 It's really helpful when you talk to people, 02:30 or when you talk to your physician to say, 02:33 "Hey, this is why I'm bringing this up. " 02:36 So it's a great resource. 02:38 Well let's talk about these lifestyle factors. 02:42 You mentioned here, that social support is very important 02:46 in combating or avoiding depression. Why do you say that? 02:51 Yes, well isolationism actually leads to depression 02:55 in many instances... not only in humans, 02:59 but also in the animal kingdom. 03:00 When animals are isolated, they will tend to 03:03 actually suffer symptoms of depression. 03:05 And the same is even more true of human beings. 03:09 And so, having a social support network which includes 03:12 not only good family, but close friends are important 03:16 in avoiding depression... 03:18 particularly for those that 03:20 already have a tendency to have depression. 03:23 So when someone says, who is depressed, 03:24 "I just need time alone to work through it" 03:26 that's not really a good model. 03:28 Not really a good model... No 03:30 And in fact, there's something even more important 03:33 than social support, and that is a sense of belonging. 03:37 A study at the University of Michigan took a look 03:41 at those factors; social support or a sense of belonging, 03:44 and they found out the sense of belonging was even 03:46 MORE important than social support... 03:48 So there are individuals that can have lots of friends, 03:51 lots of family, seem like they're well-socially-connected 03:55 but they don't have a sense that their family or friends 03:59 really BELONG to them. 04:01 They have no real sense of belonging, 04:03 and those people are also a setup for major depression. 04:06 So, the person who thinks that people are just around them 04:09 because of their money, because of their looks, 04:11 because of this, because of that... 04:12 and really senses like if all that 04:14 was gone, they would be gone too. 04:16 They're really set up for depression. 04:18 They're set up for it. 04:19 So how can you manufacture a sense of belonging 04:23 ...it can't be manufactured. 04:24 What gives you a sense of belonging? 04:26 Did the study say anything about that? 04:27 No, it didn't say anything about that. 04:29 That would be a subject for subsequent studies, 04:32 but there have been other studies that have alluded to it. 04:35 And that is, if you can get yourself involved in a cause 04:40 that is helpful to the community, 04:44 helpful to others, and that being a team cause... 04:49 where it brings other people together. 04:52 When you're working towards the same goals and mission, 04:55 that will often bring about the sense of belonging, 04:58 and the sense of closeness that you can't get 05:01 when you're just going to ballgames, or you're just 05:05 having social things that aren't really connected 05:08 to an overall purpose and goal. 05:11 So some kind of unifying... 05:13 "This is not only what I'm doing but this is how it relates to 05:17 why I'm here. " Exactly! 05:20 Well, that kind of reminds ya, 05:22 I mean, being a pastor as well as a nurse... 05:23 It reminds me of Jesus and the whole idea to reach 05:27 the whole world, and He talked about His disciples 05:29 as if they belonged to Him... 05:30 "I haven't lost one of these, or I don't want to lose any" 05:33 and they belong to Him and that type of thing. 05:35 So, would... I don't want to be self-serving 05:38 as a pastor here, but I have to ask you, 05:40 as a Christian physician, and as a scientist, 05:44 ...would going to church give a sense of belonging? 05:46 It could give a sense of belonging, but it may not either 05:49 A lot of churches are more social clubs... 05:52 than they are really working 05:54 toward a common purpose and goal, 05:57 and going there might be able to help in some form or fashion 06:01 just because of the social connectedness... 06:03 But really, you have to have an overall goal and purpose 06:06 in mind in order to get that sense of belonging. 06:08 So let's say you were going to church because you 06:11 felt as though those people that you were studying 06:13 the Bible with, or you had been helping were going to 06:15 be there and you needed to help them, 06:16 would that be a sense of belonging? Oh yes... 06:18 That would be a strong sense of belonging. 06:20 Hey... you're helping me out! 06:21 I think you should come to my church, 06:22 and we'll just share this. 06:24 Okay, the next thing I see they have mentioned here is 06:26 cognitive behavioral therapy... 06:29 Sounds like something you would have for dinner, 06:31 but what is it? 06:32 Well, actually it's a new type of counseling that has been 06:38 shown to be very effective as far as combating depression. 06:41 And I should mention, Don, that the usual type of 06:44 counseling that is being practiced in this country, 06:47 and that has been practiced for many years, 06:49 has never been shown to be 06:50 better than taking a placebo pill. 06:52 And a placebo is a fake pill, you mean... 06:54 Is a fake pill... a placebo pill is just a sugar pill, 06:57 or a fake pill that has no active ingredients, 07:00 and if we were to compare it to taking a fake pill, 07:04 the traditional forms of counseling 07:06 do NO better than that. 07:07 So the only thing they do is make money for somebody. 07:09 Essentially... and they take up time, 07:13 and they might produce some sort of friendship. 07:17 But as far as actually helping the depression, 07:20 it really doesn't seem to help any better than a placebo. 07:24 So when you mean regular kind of counseling, 07:26 do you mean... like where you go in and the person says, 07:28 "Well about your past, and what about this, 07:31 and what did your parents do," and this and that, 07:33 and trying to peel the onion skins off and... 07:38 Yes, that the usual form. 07:40 It's an open-ended; there's no time limitation 07:43 as far as how long this thing is going to continue. 07:46 And, it goes in to your childrearing... 07:49 It goes into the past events in your life, 07:53 and how they might have shaped the current situation 07:57 that you are in. 07:58 And, often that puts blames on others, 08:02 it puts blames on your childrearing, 08:04 but doesn't really help you, per se. 08:06 And of course, the therapist will say, 08:09 "Well, you need to deal with these suppressed issues. " 08:11 "You never dealt with this problem that you had with 08:13 your father 25 years ago. " 08:16 And so, you need to go through some sort of mental task 08:21 of actually dealing with it, 08:23 and that's supposed to help the depression. 08:25 It doesn't help. Doesn't help... 08:27 And unequivocally, it does not work. 08:30 So this cognitive therapy is different than that. 08:33 It's cognitive behavioral therapy that's talking about 08:37 your thoughts and your behavior. That's correct 08:39 It has been around now for about 20 years... 08:43 even though the science behind it is just now being confirmed. 08:48 Over the last 20 years, there have been now 08:51 MANY controlled studies that show that it is far superior 08:54 to taking a placebo pill. 08:55 This type of counseling works... 08:57 And it's a type of counseling that's focused on the 09:01 particular problem; it's focused on the individual, 09:03 and what that individual can do differently. 09:06 So it doesn't matter if you're parents, and your grandparents 09:09 and somebody else... little Johnny hit you with 09:11 a stick when you were 3 years old, 09:12 or you had a traumatic birth that you didn't know about... 09:15 All those different things are THERE, 09:17 but this kind of thing... is it the type of thing that 09:19 says, "You're here now, this is the issue, 09:21 what can YOU do about it? Exactly 09:24 That's the type of counseling. 09:25 That sounds a lot like my mother. 09:29 Maybe she knew about this. Maybe she knew about it! 09:31 Okay so, how does it work? 09:35 What else should we know about it? 09:36 How can we get involved in that? 09:37 What are the sources for it? 09:39 Well really, if you're wanting to get counseling, 09:44 you would want to know exactly 09:45 what type of counseling is being done. 09:48 And if it's the cognitive behavioral system, 09:50 chances are you've got a good counselor there 09:53 that's going to be able to work through some of the problems. 09:56 The interesting thing is this has also been shown 09:58 to be helpful for chronic depression. 10:00 Chronic depression is where you have had major 10:04 depression for at least 2 years. 10:07 And the study that was done recently, showed that the 10:09 average individual had been depressed for 20 years... 10:14 And a 20-year period of time is a LONG time to be depressed. 10:18 And most of these people have tried medicines; 10:20 they've tried all sorts of things that have not been 10:22 successful. 10:24 Well, what they did is, they put them on 10:26 one medication by the name of "Serzone" 10:29 AND put them through good cognitive behavioral counseling. 10:34 ...85% of those patients improved in a very rapid 10:38 period of time... better than what ANYONE 10:41 had ever predicted that chronic 10:42 depressed patients could get better, 10:44 at least percentage-wise... 10:47 How large a study was that? 10:48 How many people were in that study? 10:50 There was quite a few... 10:52 Actually I'd have to take a look here, 10:57 but I must have it in my footnotes. 11:00 I don't have it in the actual text here. 11:02 But it was a large enough study to be published in the 11:04 "New England Journal of Medicine" just this year. 11:07 Amazing! So actually, a lot of people that are out there today 11:10 watching and are languishing in depression, 11:13 maybe for 10, 15, 20 years, anybody over 2 years, 11:16 if they have this combination, they have some high hopes. 11:21 ...85% of those that were in the study, at least, had that hope. 11:24 That's correct. So how can you find that? 11:26 You've got a counselor and you're there... 11:28 How can you find out whether or not he's really giving you 11:30 the full meal-deal, so-to-speak. 11:31 Well if he starts going into past events, 11:35 and how they've shaped your life, that's a red flag. 11:38 Now, of course, a counselor is going to have to get a 11:42 history on you and help understand exactly where you are 11:45 and they're going to have to understand what some of the 11:47 issues are surrounding that... Still back there at age 5 or 6 11:50 and they stay there for 2 months, that's a problem. 11:52 That is a MAJOR problem, and I would drop that counselor. 11:57 Okay, so cognitive behavioral therapy is the way to go. 12:05 You have another one down here, "owning a pet" 12:06 Yes, now some people, because of their disability, 12:10 or because of their handicap, etcetera, may not be able 12:13 to go to church and get into a connected social group... 12:16 And for these individuals, we recommend if they don't 12:20 have one, to actually own a pet, 12:23 and to actually take care of that pet. 12:26 They will then feel a sense of belonging again. 12:28 They will have a sense of caring and love, 12:31 and they'll recognize that there is 12:32 someone that is dependent on them. 12:34 And this has been shown to be helpful in select 12:36 depressed patients. 12:37 So for patients that can't get out, 12:39 can't do this, can't do that... 12:41 Of course you can get depressed from having too many pets. 12:46 I was just talking to a lady the other day... 12:48 I was at her house; she had like 30 cats, 12:50 and this and that, and it took her all day to... 12:52 and I think she was literally depressed trying to keep up. 12:54 She was more like a zookeeper. 12:56 Yeah, you can overdo it. 12:59 So, does it matter what kind of pet you own? 13:02 Well actually, the studies haven't looked at that 13:05 in a lot of detail, but you'd want to own a pet that 13:08 can relate to you... 13:09 Probably a turtle wouldn't be the best. 13:12 A cat or a dog would probably be pretty good. 13:15 So if you're going to have an iguana, 13:16 it needs to be a loving iguana! 13:18 One that can interact with you. 13:19 Well, we've been talking with Dr. Neil Nedley... 13:22 We've been talking about something that's really 13:23 no laughing matter, especially 13:25 if you're suffering from depression. 13:26 We're glad that you're watching today. 13:28 When we come back from the break, 13:29 We're going to talk about more lifestyle things that can 13:32 help us avoid or reverse depression. 13:35 We hope that you're telling others about the program, 13:37 and we hope that you ALL can join us when 13:39 we come back from this break. 13:43 Have you found yourself wishing that you could shed a few pounds 13:46 Have you been on a diet for most of your life, 13:48 but not found anything that will really keep the weight off? 13:51 If you've answered "yes" to any of these questions, 13:54 then we have a solution for you that works. 13:57 Dr. Hans Diehl and Dr. Aileen Ludington 14:00 have written a marvelous booklet called... 14:02 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 14:04 and we'd like to send it to you FREE of charge. 14:07 Here's a medically sound approach successfully used 14:10 by thousands who are able to eat more and lose weight 14:13 permanently without feeling guilty or hungry 14:16 through lifestyle medicine. 14:18 Dr. Diehl and Dr. Ludington have been featured on 3ABN, 14:21 and in this booklet they present a sensible approach to 14:24 eating, nutrition, and lifestyle changes that can help you 14:28 prevent heart disease, diabetes and EVEN cancer. 14:31 Call or write today for your free copy of... 14:33 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 14:34 And you could be on your way to a healthier, happier YOU! 14:38 It's absolutely FREE of charge, so call or write today. 14:44 Welcome back, we've been talking with Dr. Neil Nedley 14:48 about depression and what you can do to prevent it, 14:50 or to reverse it, or to avoid it... 14:52 And we've been talking about lifestyle factors, Dr. Nedley. 14:55 And, we've talked about social support... 14:57 We've talked about cognitive behavioral therapy. 14:59 We've talked even about owning a pet! 15:01 But now we have some other interesting things... 15:05 You mention in your book also 15:06 hydrotherapy... How does that help? 15:07 Hydrotherapy USED to be used from the 1950s back, 15:15 even in the 1800s A LOT in mental institutions 15:19 simply because it worked... particularly for the 15:23 acute anxiety episodes, and for individuals 15:27 who are out of control, 15:28 they would put them in a sheet-wrap. 15:30 They would wrap them up in a wet sheet, 15:31 and then the body temperature would warm that up 15:33 and then they'd suddenly be asleep? 15:34 That's right, then by that time they'd be asleep 15:36 and they'd be under control, and they'd wake up 15:38 a whole lot better person than what they went to sleep as. 15:42 But there's been a resurrection of hydrotherapy. 15:44 A study done at Michigan State University 15:47 showed that taking a warm bath, 15:50 this would be between 99-103 degrees Fahrenheit 15:54 for about 20-30 minutes before going to bed, will enhance sleep 15:59 and that actually improves one 16:03 of the major causes of depression, 16:05 and that is a lack of sleep, or lack of being 16:08 on the appropriate circadian rhythm cycle. 16:11 And so it is a good general rule that about 20-30 minutes 16:16 a warm bath prior to bedtime; 16:18 it doesn't have to be real sophisticated... 16:20 It could be in a hot tub. 16:21 It just could be your own bathtub at home. 16:23 It can do a lot in enhancing sleep and actually 16:27 improving depression. 16:28 You haven't mentioned this, but I know a lot of places, 16:30 they practice this... and in hydrotherapy, of course, 16:34 I hope everyone caught that... 16:35 But so-called, ECT therapy, or electroshock therapy... 16:41 Does that have an effect that's positive on depression? 16:44 Well, it can help depression a great deal. 16:48 What it does is actually induce seizures, 16:51 and it does that under anesthetic. 16:55 And, by having the seizures, and having all of this 17:02 output of the neurotransmitters has actually been shown to 17:05 enhance mood in the long run, 17:08 and actually prevent as well as 17:10 cure rather severe forms of depression. 17:15 However, it does have significant side effects. 17:17 It will reduce memory. 17:19 In fact, even childhood memories that are 17:22 firmly embedded in you right now... can just be gone! 17:25 And even memories of things that happened a year ago 17:28 can be gone as a result. 17:30 And so, we really reserve this only for the very severely 17:36 depressed individual. 17:39 Fortunately, there's a new type of ECT coming up 17:42 actually utilizing powerful magnets that seems 17:46 to produce some of the same benefits without the 17:48 risks of depression. 17:50 And there, there's no seizure being induced; 17:52 it's not painful at all. 17:55 It's actually putting magnets on the head and the scalp 17:59 over the frontal lobe and other areas for 18:02 a 20-minute period of time... 18:03 And this is more preliminary research, 18:06 but it's showing that it might be just as effective as ECT 18:09 without the side effects. 18:11 Do they know why that works? 18:13 Well, there are theories as far as lining up the protons 18:17 and helping out there, but it's still under investigation. 18:24 So magnetic therapy... magnet therapy... Yeah 18:29 ...as a substitute for ECT. Interesting! 18:33 You have down here stress control measures. 18:35 This is VERY important. 18:36 About half of depressed patients are that way simply because 18:39 they have not coped adequately with their stress... 18:42 And we always put our depressed patients, if stress is a major 18:48 factor in there, we always deal with their coping 18:52 mechanisms of stress, and help counsel them... 18:56 very similar to cognitive behavioral therapy, 18:59 and how to deal with the stress. 19:00 So you identify what the stressors are, 19:02 and why they're there, 19:04 and then help them just get a handle on that. Yes 19:07 As well as dealing with the spiritual aspects of stress. 19:11 As far as appropriate planning is concerned, 19:13 many people are stressed out 19:14 just because they don't plan appropriately. 19:16 They have too much on their plate, 19:17 and they really aren't looking at things as far as 19:19 a day's activities, or a week's activities... ever do it! 19:23 And so appropriate planning is very important. 19:26 And then also, not being anxious about things that 19:29 you don't have any control over 19:31 is another important stress control measure... 19:36 And, in addition to that, the appropriate meditation. 19:42 Unfortunately, the world is using a type of meditation 19:46 that helps with stress control measures, 19:48 but actually suppresses the frontal lobe... 19:50 our decision-making lobe of the brain, 19:52 and that's the Eastern-type of meditation 19:55 where it's a self-hypnosis. 19:57 A type of balance meditation is active prayer to God. 20:02 This is where you can have the same benefit as far as 20:08 stress control is concerned as the Eastern meditation does, 20:11 but it's going to be a balanced form of meditation 20:14 that does not suppress the frontal lobe. 20:16 And like you said, if I recall, the frontal lobe is 20:21 where this depression really originates from... 20:24 that's what they're talking about. Exactly! 20:25 So if you suppress it, you're not really... 20:27 Wasn't it you that told me that in the brain, there are 20:31 100 billion neurons and they have to all be connected 20:34 in the frontal lobe is kind of the orchestra director... 20:37 That's right... it's the control center. 20:39 And so if you unconnect him, you might have some 20:42 benefits but that you really don't fix the conductor. 20:46 No, it's kind of like drinking alcohol. 20:48 Alcohol suppresses the frontal lobe, 20:50 but it makes some people feel better while 20:52 they're under the influence. 20:54 But unfortunately, alcohol is 20:56 going to end up causing depression. 20:58 It's one of the risk factors for depression in and of itself, 21:01 and the same I think is true of 21:02 the Eastern meditation techniques. 21:04 There are more short-term benefits, 21:05 but if we were to take a look at the long-term benefits, 21:08 if it suppresses the frontal lobe, 21:10 we're going to run into problems. 21:11 Okay, so if you really want to treat it, you need to 21:16 be involved with the higher power there... 21:18 God Himself with prayer, and focusing on that. 21:21 You mention also a few things about herbal therapies, 21:26 ginkgo and SAM-e... Tell us about those. 21:30 How do those help? 21:31 Yes, St. John's Wort has been shown in controlled studies 21:33 to be helpful for mild depression, 21:36 and I have used it in my practice in certain individuals 21:41 with success. 21:43 It can have some side effects as well. 21:46 We need to consider that these herbs act very 21:49 similarly to certain medications 21:52 and so we have to be alert to the side effects. 21:55 Ginkgo biloba is another one that can help. 21:57 It can also have some side effects in thinning the blood. 22:00 And then, third, the most popular is SAM-e. 22:03 It's a very expensive form of treating depression. 22:06 The SAM is "S" The "A" is adenosyl, 22:13 and the "M" is methionine. 22:14 Those are chemistry terms. 22:16 But the SAM-e has been shown to be very helpful in 22:20 those that have significant major depression, 22:23 as long as they're not bipolar or have manic depression 22:27 It can actually cause mania in susceptible individuals. 22:31 And you say it's expensive. Why... because you have to 22:33 form it in a laboratory or something... or what? 22:36 Well, it just hasn't been mass-produced enough, 22:40 and so you can buy it in your vitamin store, 22:43 or in your herbal store, or even your local pharmacy. 22:45 But to get enough, it takes 800 mg twice a day to 22:50 really help major rather severe depression, 22:53 and to get enough of that, would be about $250 per month. 22:57 Wow, yeah... that is expensive. 22:59 But I'm sure that some people would be willing 23:01 to pay ANYTHING to get over their depression. 23:03 Yes, that's true, and lower 23:05 doses can help as well in certain instances. 23:08 Now come back to this frontal lobe aspect, 23:11 and maybe we can just spend the rest of our time together, 23:15 we have about 5 minutes; let's focus in on that. 23:17 Since it's the major headquarters for this issue 23:21 of depression really, what should we do? 23:26 What can we say about it? 23:27 What should we do to enhance its function? 23:29 What should we avoid that decreases its function? 23:32 One of the things that I look at in any depressed individual 23:36 is "Are they living up to their conscience?" 23:38 You know the frontal lobe is the center of 23:40 spirituality, morality and the will. 23:42 This is what is really supposed to be directing us. 23:45 And if we are undergoing behaviors that are contrary 23:50 to what we know is right, 23:51 in order for us to feel okay about that, 23:54 we actually have to suppress our frontal lobe, 23:58 and, thus, our conscience doesn't bother us 24:01 as much, and we're not pricked as much. 24:03 And when we do this, we can end up with depression 24:07 as the end result. 24:08 Now that's not saying every depressed patient 24:10 is going against their conscience, 24:12 and that's why they got depressed, 24:13 but that could be a major hit playing a role as far as 24:17 the depression is concerned. 24:19 So you have to look for what their source of authority is 24:22 and whether or not they're living up to that. 24:23 What the people that live with say is right and wrong 24:26 and whether they're living up to that. 24:27 Yeah, the prophet Elijah is an example of that. 24:30 You know, he suffered from rather severe depression 24:33 but he ran away from Jezebel. 24:35 The Lord never told him to do that, 24:37 and finally, the Lord had to say... "What doest thou here?" 24:40 And so when a person is diagnosed with major depression, 24:45 I ask them, "What doest thou here?"... in a sense. 24:48 They need to reanalyze things. 24:50 Are they really living up to their conscience? 24:52 Have they done some things, and are continuing to do 24:57 some things that they know isn't quite right, 24:59 but don't know how to get OUT of that. 25:02 And that's where the spirituality comes in as well. 25:06 Enhancing the spiritual focus and actually providing 25:09 through divine intervention which is 25:13 extremely important in depression. 25:15 Having them take hold of the divine intervention 25:19 that can help them to change their lifestyle 25:21 so it lines up with their conscience. 25:23 So renewing their mind through the Bible promises, 25:26 and living up to the things they see in Scripture, 25:29 or within their source of authority, 25:31 and aligning themselves with that. 25:33 It's a very important aspect in treating depression. 25:36 So I imagine things, then, that we would want to avoid 25:39 that DON'T enhance the frontal lobe optimal functioning 25:44 would be like alcohol and caffeine and anything that... 25:47 Yeah, caffeine is a frontal lobe suppressant, 25:49 and caffeine has been shown to actually increase 25:52 the risk of depression, particularly when it's used 25:54 in large amounts. 25:56 What about watching comedy, and watching funny people on TV. 26:00 It seems like they'd all be laughing, 26:02 and they'd feel much better. 26:03 Well, for the short-term only. 26:05 Entertainment television actually suppresses 26:09 the frontal lobe of the brain. 26:11 It actually is a form of hypnosis if we were to 26:15 take a look at it real closely. 26:17 And as a result, it is NOT a good therapy as far as 26:22 depression is concerned. 26:23 In fact, it can actually LEAD to depression. 26:26 And so, if you're going to watch television, 26:29 you want to watch educational television. 26:31 And the way you can tell the difference is 26:33 pretty much instantaneous. 26:35 If there's a rapid scene of reference change, 26:38 every 3 seconds entertainment television 26:40 changes a scene of reference... 26:42 That is going to produce a hypnotic effect, 26:44 and it can lead to problems with the frontal lobe of the brain. 26:49 Educational television will stay on a subject 26:53 for a longer period of time, 26:54 as this program is doing fortunately. 26:57 And so there is no depression 26:59 of the frontal lobe that takes place 27:02 and you can learn from educational TV. while 27:05 utilizing the frontal lobe of the brain. 27:08 We've been talking to Dr. Neil Nedley 27:11 We've been talking about depression. 27:12 Let me ask you one question before we close out this program 27:16 and thank you so much for sharing with us 27:18 about depression today. 27:20 Can an individual that has trust and faith in God... 27:25 and is doing everything correctly, so-to-speak, 27:28 can that person, even though there are life stressors, 27:31 like losing a spouse, or this or that, 27:33 can they expect to live their life without major depression? 27:36 Even they can have major depression, 27:39 but the good news is they don't have to stay depressed 27:42 if they get on the good nutrition and lifestyle program. 27:45 We've been talking with Dr. Neil Nedley 27:47 We've talked about depression. 27:48 We've talked about what it is. 27:50 We've talked about how to avoid it. 27:51 How to prevent it. How to reverse it. 27:53 If you'd like more information, contact 3ABN, 27:56 and thanks for joining us today. |
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