Participants: Glen Wiltse, Don Mackintosh
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000046
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00:51 Hello and welcome to "Health for a Lifetime"
00:54 I'm Don Mackintosh, your host, and today I am delighted 00:57 with the topic we're going to be talking about. 00:59 We're going to be talking about IMMUNITY, FAITH AND PRAYER! 01:04 To talk about this subject with us today, 01:07 we have Dr. Glen Wiltse... 01:09 He's a physician from North Dakota, 01:12 but does some work with Black Hills in South Dakota, 01:16 that Community Health Education Center 01:18 And also, you still do some practice, 01:21 and you are seeing patients, 01:22 and has a wealth of experience for many years. 01:26 We're talking today about immunity, faith and prayer. 01:30 What, first of all, is immunity? What does that mean? 01:32 Immunity is the resistance to adverse circumstances, 01:36 and we think of it particularly with regard to 01:38 infections, bacteria and viruses. 01:40 So if we're immune to something, we're less likely to get it. 01:44 Now, we do give vaccinations to children and to 01:47 people who are going overseas for various diseases... 01:49 So it increases their immunity; it fortifies their immune system 01:54 But what we're interested in today, particularly, 01:55 is the built-in immune system 01:57 that God designed our bodies with originally. 01:59 So talk to us a little bit about that... 02:02 What is that built-in system? 02:03 Would that be like the skin? What is that? 02:05 Yes, we do have the skin which helps to protect our bodies 02:08 from germs getting in. 02:10 Our digestive system helps to kill bacteria 02:12 that we may have swallowed as we're eating our food. 02:14 We know that our immune system can be fortified by exercise, 02:17 and by eating a proper type of diet, 02:20 and it also is affected by many other aspects of our lifestyle 02:25 ...so that the built-in mechanism is there, 02:29 is working well, but we can help to make it work better. 02:32 You know since the AIDS crisis that developed a few years ago 02:36 in this country, the "autoimmune deficiency syndrome," 02:40 I think that's what they call it, 02:41 a lot of focus has come on immunity and whatnot. 02:46 There's a lot of things even in our bloodstream 02:48 that help fight disease, aren't there? 02:50 Yes, there are; we have a number of cells of the 02:53 lymphoid system called T- cells and also some 02:57 others called B-cells which are technical terms 03:00 but there are different ones that have different functions. 03:03 We have, for instance, a helper T-cell that recognizes 03:05 a problem; a foreign substance that enters the body, 03:08 and we have the killer T-cells that are activated then 03:11 by this helper T-cell. 03:15 He kills the viruses. He kills the germs... 03:18 And then when things get under control, 03:20 then the suppressor T-cell comes along 03:23 and tells the killer T-cell... "Gotta cool it now, 03:25 we're winning the battle; everything is going okay" 03:28 Then following this, we have the memory T-cell 03:31 that remembers the specific virus or germ 03:35 that caused this infection, so that the next time it comes, 03:38 the forces can be more readily 03:40 rallied to fight that specific infection. 03:43 It's a MARVELOUS system! 03:44 How long do those memory cells stay there? 03:46 Let's say I'm 70 years old, do I still have 03:48 memory cells from when I'm 5? 03:50 That's right, you certainly do. 03:51 That's something that says with a person for life. 03:53 A marvelous mechanism... So they're like gray-haired 03:55 white blood cells that are floating around. I guess so 03:58 Apparently, it's passed on from generation to generation. 04:00 I'm not sure exactly how it works, 04:02 but the memory does remain. 04:04 Now the interesting thing is that what you're suggesting 04:08 and what science is suggesting now, is that we can enhance our 04:12 own physical immune system which is on the outside 04:15 and that which is within our bloodstream by 04:18 behaviors of faith and prayer. 04:20 Talk to us a little bit about that. 04:21 That's an interesting thing all right. 04:24 A number of scientific studies have been done 04:27 demonstrating the fact that people who are prayed for 04:30 who are ill or who have had surgery.. recover more quickly 04:33 than the ones who are not prayed for. 04:36 This has been kind of an interesting thing that 04:40 people have found this to be true. 04:42 And I don't understand how it works, really... 04:44 I don't understand the mechanics of prayer. 04:46 How is it that I can offer a prayer, say some words, 04:48 and they reach God, and He sends a message back 04:51 here and helps someone else. 04:52 But neither can I understand how a TV reporter 04:57 with his cameraman can be over in Afghanistan 04:59 or Turkey and there's an earthquake 05:00 and he can take pictures there and I can see them 05:03 a minute later or less in my own TV, in my own living room. 05:07 That happens... I see it happen, I know it happens, 05:10 and I'm sure that that prayer, that message to heaven 05:13 reaches its subjective and comes back 05:16 with the power just like that TV picture comes back. 05:19 That's a good analogy. 05:22 You talked with me a little bit before the program here, 05:26 and you were mentioning the study where they had 05:28 so many patients that really didn't even know who 05:32 the people that were praying for them 05:33 and they got better... Is that right? 05:34 That's right... This was in a coronary care unit, 05:36 and part of them were prayed for, 05:38 part of them weren't, the doctors didn't know, 05:40 and the patients didn't know who was being prayed for... 05:42 But the ones who had prayer offered for them, 05:44 on the average, recovered 05:45 more quickly than the ones that were not prayed for. 05:48 Let me ask you this question... 05:51 Let's say someone today is watching and I know there 05:53 are many people that are watching and saying... 05:55 "Oh, you know, I REALLY believe that" 05:58 "I believe with all my heart; I've been praying about 06:01 this situation or that situation; 06:03 I know other people are praying for me, 06:05 but they're not healed. " 06:07 What do you have to say about that? 06:08 Well I think we can go to the Bible for an answer to that... 06:11 To the Apostle Paul, himself... 06:12 You know, the Apostle Paul records there in 06:14 2 Corinthians 12:7-10 how he had a problem... 06:18 We don't know for sure what it was... 06:19 A lot of theologians feel it probably was poor eyesight; 06:23 maybe as a result of the blinding light that 06:24 hit him on the way to Damascus. 06:26 But he asked the Lord to remove that from him. 06:28 And how many times did he ask Him? 06:30 Not just once, or twice... He asked Him 3 times. 06:33 And the Lord said, "My grace is sufficient for you. " 06:36 That's the burden that you have to carry; 06:38 maybe it was to help keep Paul humble. 06:40 But the fact that our prayer is not answered in the 06:42 way that WE want it to be answered 06:44 doesn't mean that it's not being answered. 06:46 God has the answer; He has the ultimate knowledge. 06:49 And I think we need to, when we pray, have faith 06:52 that God is going to work out what is best for us 06:54 even though it may not be what WE think 06:56 we would like to have happen. 06:58 So, in other words, just because we're praying, 07:01 or someone else is praying, we're not really the judge 07:05 as to whether or not prayer has been answered 07:07 in some senses... That's exactly right 07:11 You mentioned Scripture, you mentioned the story about 07:14 Paul in the Bible; is Scripture a good guide 07:18 to help us figure out what maybe God may will 07:22 or is or has been up to in other people's lives 07:25 than what might be happening in our own? 07:26 Well I think we have to take into consideration 07:29 the fact that, as the Apostle Paul wrote, 07:32 "All things work together for good to those who love God" 07:35 And if we love Him, even though we may not get the answer 07:39 that WE desire for our prayer, 07:41 we must recognize and have faith 07:43 that God is working things out in His own way, 07:46 and in a way that will be best for us as well. 07:48 Can prayer, can practices concerning faith 07:54 help with depression? 07:55 Yes, they really can... 07:57 And as we go on for the next few minutes in our program, 08:01 I'd like to just refer specifically to some of the 08:03 medical literature regarding some of the aspects of medicine, 08:09 and we do find that depression really can be helped by prayer. 08:14 There was an article in the "American Journal of Psychiatry" 08:17 which they researched a group of 87 depressed patients 08:21 who were hospitalized... actually hospitalized with a 08:25 physical illness, but they were prayed for... 08:27 and not only did their physical illness recover more rapidly, 08:30 but they also overcame their depression at the same time. 08:34 Now, was this an answer to prayer? 08:36 We don't know for sure, we have no 08:37 scientific proof for that, 08:38 but I have confidence in the Lord and His willingness 08:41 to help us out, and if they got better, 08:43 I think that had something to do with it. 08:45 There was also another article along the psychiatric aspect 08:48 that some research that was done in 1997... 08:52 Well, it was reported in 1997, and they found there that 08:56 people who attended church at least once a week, 09:00 were half as likely to have a substance called 09:04 "interleukin-6" which is an adversary of the immune system 09:08 than the people who did NOT go to church regularly. 09:10 So apparently there's something about just going to church 09:13 ...the confidence and relationship a person has to God 09:16 and the fellowship that is there at the church as well 09:19 that help to make a person so that his immune system 09:22 functions more readily, and more effectively. 09:25 So just going to church, just attending church, 09:28 studies are now showing that hey, THAT protects 09:32 or in some way boosts your immune system. 09:35 That's exactly right, and along with that 09:38 there's another article from "Southern Medical Journal" 09:40 that was reported also in 1998, 09:42 which found that older persons who attended church services 09:46 on a regular basis were less likely to be admitted 09:50 to the hospital, and when they were admitted, 09:52 they had spent fewer days in the hospital 09:55 than the people who did not attend church regularly. 09:58 So there are real physical benefits... 10:00 I mean, physical healing can come... 10:02 Depression would be more of a psychological 10:07 or a psychiatric-type situation. 10:09 There are some real blessings that come from 10:12 attending church, faith and prayer in the corporate setting. 10:17 Anything else that you've discovered as you have 10:19 been looking at this research. 10:21 Well there was also another article, and also a new one 10:24 reported just last year in 1998 10:27 in the issue of journal called "Health Education and Behavior" 10:31 and they concluded there, and I'm going to refer 10:33 specifically to that article... 10:35 They conclude that religion and faith promote health 10:38 and fight disease through increasing social support, 10:42 improving coping skills, and giving people 10:44 positive views of themselves. 10:46 And these researchers then pointed out also... 10:49 that religion seems to, and this is an interesting thing 10:52 ...seems to discourage behavior that increases health risks 10:57 such as use of tobacco, drugs, and so forth. 11:00 So it has a behavioral component. That's right. 11:03 And this isn't the only researcher that 11:05 has reported that either. 11:06 This spirituality has to do with our 11:09 social behavior very definitely. 11:11 Our relationship to God is not just a personal matter, 11:15 it influences our interpersonal relationship as well. 11:19 What is the difference between someone saying... 11:21 "I'm a spiritual person" and someone saying... 11:24 "I'm a religious person" 11:25 Okay, well I think a person who is spiritual 11:27 actually has a direct relationship with God. 11:31 A person who is religious, he can think about 11:33 religious things; he can pray to idols, 11:35 or icons and he can be religious, 11:38 but not really spiritual. 11:39 I think "spiritual"... this is my interpretation at least, 11:42 has to do with our relationship with God, Himself, 11:45 the Living God, the true God in heaven, 11:47 the Creator of heaven and earth. 11:49 So I think that spirituality has to do with a 11:52 definite relationship and acceptance of Him 11:56 as a part of our life. 11:59 So spirituality then is our personal relationship... 12:03 Then religion, is that more of a social aspect? 12:05 I think for many people it is. 12:07 In fact for most people, in fact for a lot of people, 12:10 I think church is just sort of a social club, you might say. 12:13 Are there good things about that? There are, yes! 12:17 I mean, the interpersonal relationship, 12:20 visiting with your friends and so forth 12:22 has positive effects on an individual, 12:24 but it's not the same as that 12:26 personal relationship with the Divine Being. 12:29 So it's best to be spiritual and religious. 12:32 I guess that would be a good way to say it; yes, I think so! 12:35 So you have the best of your relationship 12:37 with God, and then you have the best of 12:39 that religious setting where you can get encouragement; 12:42 you can get social support, 12:43 you can have those things working together. 12:46 Yeah, that's precisely correct. 12:48 Okay, well, as we look further at this subject, 12:54 you were mentioning to me some fascinating research 12:58 that came out of Duke University. 13:00 Maybe you could introduce that for us before we go to our break 13:03 Okay, there was a doctor, Dr. Koenig, at Duke University; 13:07 he was the director of their study 13:11 of religion, spirituality and health... 13:13 And the fact that he is in charge of a program like this 13:18 and the fact that he wrote about it, 13:20 is an indication that there is a high interest, 13:23 even among the medical profession, 13:25 in this particular subject... 13:27 And he refers to that in his writing 13:29 about the work that he has done. 13:30 So the fascinating thing is that... 13:32 Hey, they're even writing books about this, and what not. 13:35 And when we come back, I hope that you join us. 13:39 We're going to look a little more closely at other 13:41 research that goes beyond the physical and the behavioral, 13:46 and some of the psychological things that we've talked about, 13:49 and looks at stress and how it affects our immunity. 13:52 We hope that you can join us. 14:05 Have you found yourself wishing that you could shed a few pounds 14:08 Have you been on a diet for most of your life, 14:11 but not found anything that will really keep the weight off? 14:14 If you've answered "yes" to any of these questions, 14:17 then we have a solution for you that works! 14:19 Dr. Hans Diehl and Dr. Aileen Ludington 14:22 have written a marvelous booklet called... 14:25 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 14:27 and we'd like to send it to you FREE of charge. 14:30 Here's a medically sound approach successfully used by 14:32 thousands who were able to eat more and lose weight permanently 14:36 without feeling guilty or hungry through lifestyle medicine. 14:40 Dr. Diehl and Dr. Ludington have been featured on 3ABN 14:43 and in this booklet, they present a sensible approach 14:46 to eating, nutrition and lifestyle changes 14:49 that could help you prevent heart disease, diabetes 14:51 and EVEN cancer! 14:52 Call or write today for your free copy of... 14:55 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 14:57 and you could be on your way to a healthier happier YOU! 15:00 It's ABSOLUTELY free of charge, so call or write today. 15:16 Welcome back! We have been talking with 15:19 Dr. Glen Wiltse from North Dakota 15:21 We've been talking about immunity, faith and prayer, 15:25 and we've discovered that faith and prayer can really 15:28 enhance our immune systems not only physically, 15:31 socially, behaviorally, but there are other ways as well 15:36 And, Dr. Wiltse, why don't we just pick up where we left off. 15:39 We were talking about the social aspects, what about stress? 15:44 Stress is something that's extremely important. 15:47 We did talk about the immune system earlier, 15:49 and one of the aspects of the immune system is 15:51 antibodies, so we didn't talk about that before. 15:54 But it's been discovered by those who study stress... 15:56 that these antibodies which are substances that are developed 15:59 by our immune system that help to fight off 16:03 another infection similar to this that might come on 16:06 next time, or later on in life... 16:08 And that if a person is under stress, 16:10 there was a Dutch study that was done several years ago 16:14 in which they observed a group of 80 people 16:16 over a 6-month period, and they found out 16:19 that those with high stress levels had fewer than 16:23 half of the antibodies in their systems as the ones 16:27 that were under less stress. 16:28 So apparently there's something about stress that affects 16:31 the immune system. 16:33 You hear a lot of people that say... 16:34 "I'm stressed out" "It's just getting to me" 16:37 What IS stress? What does that mean? 16:39 Well, I think we have to go back to Dr. Hans Selye 16:42 who was a Canadian physician researching about 16:45 30 or 40 years ago... 16:47 He devoted his life actually to investigating stress, 16:50 and he came to the conclusion that what most 16:53 people call stress, really should be called the stressor. 16:57 The stress is not what is adversely affecting us, 17:04 it's the way we ALLOW it to affect us. 17:09 So that stress isn't actually what happens to us, 17:12 it's the way we respond to what happens to us. 17:15 And there's something over which we can have some control. 17:18 He called it DISTRESS... 17:21 and, of course, well all know what DISTRESS means. 17:23 We're uncomfortable when we're in distress. 17:26 So in other words... let me just see if I got this right 17:30 It's not so much what happens to us, 17:32 but how we RELATE to it that's important. 17:35 That's exactly right, and I think that we can 17:38 look to the Bible again for an answer here. 17:40 Christ gave us the antidote for stress, 17:42 we quoted that text on a previous program. 17:44 He says... "Come unto me all ye that labor 17:47 and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. " 17:49 So if we have the peace and the equanimity that 17:52 comes with knowing Christ, then we're not going 17:55 to react adversely to the adverse circumstances 17:58 in which we're surrounded or the things that 18:00 happen to us. 18:02 That kind of reminds me of Job... 18:04 That's one of my favorite Bible things, you know... 18:06 He said when everything happened bad to him, 18:09 I think it's chapter 1, and actually throughout the book, 18:12 but he says, hey... "The Lord gave it to me, 18:13 the Lord took it away... Blessed be the name of the Lord" 18:17 Is that what you're talking about? That's exactly right. 18:19 So that an attitude of contentment, and a resignation 18:24 to live with whatever circumstance we're in 18:28 ...whatever the outcome may be, 18:31 even though we don't get healed, we're praying for healing... 18:35 Even though we have a death in the family, 18:38 or we have somebody that cheated us, 18:39 or somebody has stolen our car, 18:41 we could allow these things to stress us out, as we say, 18:45 but the way we react to this adverse circumstance, 18:48 determines how we feel... 18:50 And actually, it affects the status of our immune system. 18:54 In other words, if we react adversely, 18:56 we're going to be less able to fight off a disease, 19:01 a virus or a germ that comes along to us, 19:03 or maybe have a heart attack, or have to have surgery... 19:06 All of these things are assisted by a good healthy immune system 19:09 ...But if we allow stresses to adversely affect us, 19:13 and if we don't react properly to them, 19:15 then they're going to have an adverse affect on us, 19:18 and we will really be under stress. 19:20 Now, you mentioned some of these Bible characters, 19:24 Christ, Job... a couple of texts comes to mind for me. 19:29 "Great peace have they which love Thy law, 19:31 nothing shall offend them. " 19:34 And you see Christ went out and He prayed for nights on end; 19:37 He got up early in the morning. 19:38 Has there been any scientific documentation of this? 19:42 Not that we need it, but you kind of got your 19:44 fingertips on that... does science say anything about that? 19:47 Well, there's a doctor, Dr. Benson, 19:49 from Harvard University, who has done 19:51 a lot of research along this... 19:53 In fact, he has written 5 books just on this specific subject. 19:57 So, I don't know how he could find enough words 19:59 to write 5 books about this, but he's done it. 20:01 And he has found in his research, over a period of 20:04 25 years, has shown that people who meditate and use 20:08 simple prayers have strikingly favorable physiologic changes 20:12 in their bodies, and these things include things like 20:16 lower oxygen consumption, lower heart rate, 20:20 lower respiratory rates, lower blood pressure. 20:25 The results also include the abatement of a 20:29 variety of different diseases that these people had as well. 20:33 So that here we have meditation and prayer as being important 20:37 aspects of our life. 20:38 I'm a little bit concerned about this term "meditation" though... 20:41 You know, it has some perhaps unfavorable connotations. 20:45 Maybe as a minister, and as a nurse as well, 20:48 you can give us a little enlightenment on this. 20:50 Well, that's an interesting consideration. 20:55 I would just say... "You know, this research 21:00 indicates that meditation, simple prayer of any kind 21:03 can bring changes. " 21:05 I think the Bible is fairly clear, and you correct me; 21:07 you're also a Christian physician, 21:09 and referred to the Bible for many years... 21:11 that there are definitely two sources of power 21:15 in this great controversy. 21:16 If we meditate on one, if we're closely connected 21:19 with the powers of evil, they can actually bring 21:22 the Bible says, "signs and symptoms or change 21:26 signs and symptoms," bring apparent healing. 21:29 There also are the forces of good which we've focused on, 21:32 and I think that, you correct me if I'm wrong, 21:36 but I would think, doctor, the best thing to do would be 21:38 within the rubric or within the confines of Scripture 21:42 to operate within that... 21:44 "To the law, to the testimony," it says in Isaiah 8:20, 21:48 "If they speak not according to these, 21:50 there is no light in them. " 21:51 Even though I might feel better, I might look better, 21:54 and I might physically be, in some sense, better! 21:56 Would that be accurate? I think so... 21:58 To my mind, I think meditation has a connotation of 22:01 association with God, and with Christ... 22:04 We get this by reading His Word and by praying. 22:07 If we read His Word, meditate upon the message 22:09 that it gives to us there, this is the appropriate 22:11 type of meditation, rather than the individual 22:16 who sits out here with his eyes closed, 22:18 and humming some meaningless symbols. 22:22 That, I think, is the meditation 22:23 that leads people down the wrong path. 22:25 You mentioned to me, before we began discussing this subject, 22:30 that there really seems to be, in the scientific literature, 22:34 real positive benefits from being religious or spiritual 22:41 in terms of recovery times and whatnot. 22:43 Tell us a little bit about that. Yes, that's right... 22:44 Yes, there was a report from New Hampshire, 22:46 from Dartmouth Medical School, 22:48 some research work that they had done there... 22:50 And they found that people who 22:52 classified themselves, and this is a personal 22:55 classification, as very religious, 22:57 were 3 times more likely to recover from an illness 23:00 than the people who did not consider themselves 23:02 to be religious. 23:03 So apparently, a person's appraisal of his own religiosity 23:07 and I think we would better say probably "spirituality" 23:10 is even more important, are much more likely to 23:12 overcome illnesses than the people who do not consider 23:14 themselves to be spiritual or to have religious concepts 23:19 and component of their lives. 23:20 Can these elements prevent disease? 23:22 Yes, they won't completely prevent, but they can be a 23:26 positive influence in helping to 23:28 keep a person from getting diseases. 23:30 In other words, people are LESS likely to get diseases 23:33 if they are, what we call, religious, 23:36 or what a lot of people call religious and we'd like to call 23:38 spiritual... They're much less likely to become ill. 23:43 And of course, there are other things that enter in to it too. 23:46 I'd like to read a statement from Dr. Koenig 23:49 from Duke University... 23:50 Some study that he did there regarding church activities 23:54 and the fact that it isn't just our relation to God, 23:56 but it's also our relationship to other people... 23:59 the interpersonal relationships. 24:01 He concluded the following statement... 24:03 "The church activities may prevent illness by a 24:06 direct effect using prayer or Scripture reading as 24:09 coping behaviors, plus church-goers are usually 24:12 people who enjoy a good diet, 24:14 don't get involved in substance abuse, smoking, 24:17 unsafe sexual practices, or other self-destructive behaviors 24:21 Moreover, those who go to church or a temple usually have a 24:24 strong network of friends who are quick to help. " 24:28 So here, I think we see the conclusion of a researcher 24:30 who spent a lot of time studying this... 24:32 That the person who has a relationship with God 24:36 is also going to have a better lifestyle as far as the 24:41 daily habits of life are concerned. 24:43 And they have people watching out for them. 24:45 That's right, and the association with others 24:47 is a very positive influence, a positive effect. 24:50 Now, you know, we're sitting here on a television set 24:53 and we're taping a program that will be viewed by 25:00 many people, and is it best to get your religion 25:05 from the television? 25:07 Can you get ALL the benefits by maybe just staying at home 25:11 and watching the religious programming whenever it comes on 25:13 Is that the best way to do this? 25:15 Well I think a person can be benefited by that, 25:17 but RESEARCH, and this is just not my personal opinion... 25:20 Research has demonstrated that people who 25:23 worship at home, by watching religious TV programs, 25:26 are not as healthy as the people who actually attend 25:29 church services with other people. 25:31 So there's something about the 25:32 social environment of fellowship... 25:36 And you know, the Apostle Paul 25:37 must have recognized this 25:38 because in one of his writings, he says, in his counsel, 25:42 that we should... "Forsake not the assembling of ourselves 25:45 together, as the manner of some is. " 25:48 So, even back in Paul's day, either he observed it, 25:51 or else God inspired him to write this. 25:53 So there's no substitute for getting out 25:57 and being with the people, being with the body of Christ, 26:01 and interacting. That's right 26:05 We've got about 2 minutes left, doctor. 26:07 Are there any parting studies or most important things 26:11 on this subject of faith, prayer and immunity 26:13 you want to share with us? 26:14 Well I think there's one other study that was done 26:16 at Georgetown University in Washington, DC 26:19 and they reviewed 212 different studies. 26:23 And this was not 212 people, he went through the 26:26 medical literature and reviewed 212 reports from 26:29 different researchers on the 26:31 influence of religious belief on health... 26:34 And he found that 75% of these articles showed that 26:37 there was a positive effect and relationship 26:42 between religion and spiritual belief, 26:45 and the health of the individual. 26:46 So this is pretty strong proof, I think... 26:48 When three-fourths of all of the articles were written 26:50 by these specialists, and showed a 26:53 favorable relationship between our spiritual lives, 26:55 and our health. 26:56 So the Bible has said it; science says it... 26:59 But I want to leave one question here for you 27:02 and then we can get your response 27:03 then we'll closeout, I think this VERY important program. 27:06 Should prayer and faith; 27:08 should religious practices... 27:09 should all of these things be 27:11 used in place of just good common sense? 27:14 No, they shouldn't. I think that's important. 27:17 It IS good and it's an excellent practice 27:19 for us to follow healthful living practices, 27:22 but we shouldn't allow prayer 27:24 to take the place of living properly. 27:27 We should live a healthful diet, have exercise, 27:30 and along WITH this, exercise, prayer and faith. 27:33 We've been talking with Dr. Glen Wiltse. 27:35 We've talked about prayer, faith and immunity. 27:38 We hope that what we've shared today 27:40 has given you confidence that there IS a God, 27:43 that He DOES love you; 27:45 that you CAN go to Him in prayer. 27:47 It DOES increase your immune response. 27:50 It CAN give you health; it can PROTECT your health... 27:53 And we hope that as a result of today's program, 27:55 you will have health that lasts for a lifetime! |
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