Health for a Lifetime

Protecting Your Most Vital Asset

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Participants: Phil Mils, Don Mackintosh

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00:52 Hello and welcome to Health for a Lifetime.
00:55 I'm Don Mackintosh, your host.
00:57 Today we're joined with Dr. Phillip Mills
00:59 from Wichita, Kansas.
01:01 Welcome, Doctor.
01:02 I understand that you are a physiatrist.
01:05 What exactly does that mean?
01:07 A physiatrist is someone who is a specialist in
01:10 physical medicine and rehabilitation.
01:12 We take care of such problems as head injuries, which we'll be
01:16 talking about today, strokes, spinal cord problems, as well
01:21 as muscular skeletal problems, and pain problems.
01:24 You take care of a lot of things but probably the most important
01:28 thing is our head.
01:29 We entitled this one, Protecting Your Most Valuable Asset,
01:33 this segment.
01:35 Why is the head so valuable?
01:38 If you look at physiology, everything in the body
01:43 is designed around the head.
01:45 For example; the skull gives it protection.
01:48 The legs give it mobility.
01:51 The stomach gives it nutrition.
01:55 Everything is designed to give information or some help
02:05 to the brain.
02:06 My eyes give it information.
02:08 My ears give it information.
02:10 The mouth gives it communication to the outside world.
02:15 We're just walking brains.
02:16 Well... you might say that and the neurophysiologists certainly
02:22 believe that.
02:23 But if you look at humans through the centuries
02:28 you find that the society of the time always use the highest
02:34 technology to illustrate the brain.
02:36 For example; the Roman era, the highest technology
02:41 of the time was the aqueducts and so they compared the brain
02:45 to an aqueduct.
02:47 The brain has aqueducts.
02:50 We call them various names - aqueduct of Sylvius - so that
02:54 comparisons still comes down to this day.
02:57 In the early 1900's the highest technology of the time was the
03:02 telephone relay stations.
03:04 So they compared the brain to a very
03:06 super telephone switchboard.
03:12 Then if you have today the highest technology appears
03:18 to be the computer.
03:19 Often times people compare the brain to a computer
03:22 I think a Mackintosh computer, I mean my name is Mackintosh!
03:25 That would be a good comparison.
03:27 Actually, the brain isn't a telephone switchboard
03:31 but it does have some switchboard functions.
03:34 It's not a computer, although it does have some
03:37 computer functions.
03:38 Most people have no idea but just to move the arm like this
03:44 requires not only the biceps, for example, to bring my arm
03:50 and flex my elbow, as I'm doing here, but it also requires
03:56 not only the biceps tightening but also the triceps,
04:00 the opposite muscle and some other muscles to tighten as well
04:04 so that you have this very smooth function because the
04:09 cerebellum and the computer portion of the brain
04:13 is figuring out where everything is, how tight it needs to be,
04:17 and the movements that can be made in a
04:21 fluid, coordinated fashion.
04:24 It must be fascinating to study about the brain
04:27 and figure out what's going on with someone as they come in
04:31 when they're injured.
04:32 It's probably not always easy but...
04:35 What are the types of things that we do
04:37 to damage the brain?
04:38 How is it that people are injured?
04:40 The brain is quite well protected but even with the
04:45 protection that God gave it with the skull it can be damaged
04:48 in several ways.
04:50 For example, in ancient times people would fall from horses.
04:55 Today with our high speed society, with motorcycles,
05:00 automobiles, all terrain vehicles, all these give us
05:05 many, many ways to injure the brain as well as the warfare
05:12 that he's done.
05:14 That also exposes the brain to great risks.
05:17 Anything else in every day experience that
05:20 damages the brain?
05:21 The thing that comes to my mind is football.
05:25 The sports that people engage in... when I was growing up
05:30 we played sports.
05:31 I had no idea of the danger that sports could have.
05:36 Football is one, boxing is another that can cause
05:41 brain injury.
05:42 The biggest activity that threatens the brain
05:45 that people do, of course, is the use of alcohol.
05:48 Any other injuries that you see to the brain that you treat?
05:53 You've talked about blunt trauma injuries, anything else?
05:57 Let me just divide up the ways that the brain is injured.
06:01 We have blunt trauma and that is generally where the head
06:05 hits something.
06:06 Where in an automobile accident and the head might hit the
06:11 windshield at high speed.
06:13 Or if you're on a motorcycle and your head hits the concrete
06:16 at high speed.
06:17 That is called a blunt trauma.
06:23 You not only have the injury right there at the sight of the
06:29 trauma, but interestingly enough, since the brain is
06:33 consistency of Jell-O, the brain will jiggle.
06:39 Let's say you hit your head against the dash board,
06:46 the brain, like this Jell-O, smashes up against the skull
06:52 and then it bounces back and hits the other side
06:57 of the skull.
06:58 This is called a coup contrecoup injury.
07:01 The contrecoup injury can also be quite substantial.
07:05 So the rebound place?
07:07 Yes, and then you have the twisting types of motion,
07:11 the torsion types of motion, that can tear little blood
07:14 vessels and so there is bleeding inside.
07:18 In fact we now understand that the original injury is generally
07:24 not the worst type of injury to the brain.
07:27 It's the injuries that occur after the original injury
07:31 because of swelling and other types of problems.
07:33 The second kind of injury is the penetrating wound injury
07:40 where you're shot in the head.
07:41 We had a patient that had been in a jail and apparently
07:54 he had made some fellow- inmates very angry
07:58 They took an awl and they hammered it through his brain
08:03 and then moved it back and forth.
08:05 We call that pithing - pithing the brain like in some
08:11 experiments in biology.
08:13 They pith the frog in the spinal cord.
08:15 How did that man do?
08:16 That doesn't sound like something you'd want done.
08:18 That is not something you would like to have happen to you.
08:23 He didn't survive.
08:28 Sometimes they do survive those types of injuries.
08:34 If they can survive in a penetrating wound injury,
08:37 if they can survive the original injury, often times those types
08:41 of injuries may be less damaging because they are very specific
08:47 areas that they damage, gunshot wound for example,
08:50 maybe less than a more global kind of injury.
08:57 The worst kind of head injuries that you can get are those
09:01 that involve loss of oxygen because they encompass
09:05 the entire brain, every cell.
09:08 So that can be a real problem with carbon monoxide poisoning
09:12 those sorts of insults to the brain.
09:16 What's the first thing that needs to be done if you've
09:19 had a severe head injury?
09:21 What should happen first?
09:24 Immediately, of course, you need medical attention.
09:27 The types of things that the brain does for the body
09:31 easily, automatically, you don't think about, breathing, and the
09:37 heart rate, all these types of automatic activities
09:42 may be lost.
09:44 The person needs to be immediately in a hospital
09:49 that is skilled in taking care of people with acute
09:53 brain injuries.
09:54 You think about this, what God built into our brains
09:59 takes many, many skilled professionals to do
10:05 for the person.
10:07 He may not be able to breath
10:09 so that you have to have artificial support systems,
10:12 he's not able to empty his bladder and so that has to
10:16 be dealt with.
10:17 So you have this whole team
10:21 that is working to save his life and this our little brain
10:26 that God made is working all automatically doing those
10:31 functions for us and we don't even think about it.
10:36 So when the brain gets hit you talked about that coup and
10:40 contrecoup, what happens?
10:42 Does it swell up inside?
10:43 What goes on?
10:45 The first problem that has to be dealt with by the neurosurgeon
10:48 and the acute trauma team is that swelling.
10:51 Because the brain is solid, there's no give to it, this
10:56 swelling has no place to go except there's a large hole
11:02 at the very bottom of the brain and it's called, interestingly
11:05 enough, large hole: foramen - hole,
11:08 magnum - large.
11:09 The problem is it begins to squish the brain tissue down
11:16 through that hole.
11:17 Now at the very bottom of your brain that is your life
11:21 support system, that's your breathing, that's your
11:26 blood pressure, some of the mechanisms, there's just a lot
11:33 of mechanisms there on these vegetative levels.
11:36 Because of that you're at risk of dying if something
11:46 immediately isn't done.
11:47 This has to be monitored.
11:49 Surgery may need to be done.
11:51 They actually relieve the pressure if possible.
11:54 They give various medications to relieve the pressure.
11:57 That's all on an emergent basis.
11:59 I would like to say something about these vegetative functions
12:03 here at the very base of the brain.
12:05 It's fortunate that's where those vegetative functions are
12:09 because they get the first supply of oxygen, the first
12:13 supply of blood as it comes out of the heart there at
12:17 the base of the brain.
12:18 This area of the brain, the forebrain, gets the very last
12:24 part of this blood as it goes through the head.
12:27 If these vegetative functions were here in the forebrain
12:33 then if a person smoked, or used alcohol at all, it would kill
12:42 them immediately.
12:43 But they still get enough oxygen and supplies because they're
12:47 located here at the base and a person can still function.
12:51 So God created it in a way that protects us if we did
12:55 happen to get injured.
12:57 Yes.
12:58 When a person then that brain is swollen I'm sure it takes
13:05 quite a bit of time for that swelling to go down.
13:08 How long does it take for it to go down?
13:09 Well, it depends, it may take even several weeks or it may,
13:14 depending on how severe it is, it may go down more rapidly.
13:18 But really, at that point, as a person becomes stabilized,
13:23 then a whole different type of treatment
13:26 needs to be instituted.
13:28 And that's really my area of specialty.
13:30 This is fascinating.
13:32 When we come back we want to talk more
13:34 about this area of specialty.
13:36 If your watching or just joining us, we're talking about
13:39 head injuries.
13:40 We're talking about what happens when someone has a head injury,
13:42 what needs to be done, how to relate to those who have had
13:45 head injuries.
13:47 When we come back we hope that you join us.
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15:14 Welcome back.
15:16 We've been talking with Dr. Phillip Mills from
15:19 Wichita, Kansas.
15:20 He is a specialist in rehab medicine or physical medicine,
15:24 dealing with those that have had strokes
15:26 and brain injuries of any kind.
15:29 Today we're talking about head injuries.
15:32 Is there any hope for those that have had head injuries?
15:36 What happens when they start to recover from a head injury?
15:39 The head injury has a certain way of healing.
15:43 At least typically a way of healing.
15:46 After you've stabilized them in the intensive care and they
15:49 are able to breath again and are able to have
15:53 automatic functions return, then you transfer them
16:00 at an appropriate time to a rehabilitation center.
16:04 We give them intensive rehabilitation.
16:07 Now there are certain steps in the recovery that we look for.
16:11 The first step is the agitation phase.
16:15 The person begins to thrash around and they are rolling
16:18 and moving their arms.
16:20 We look very closely at this stage because a person can't
16:24 maybe talk to us but we see that every aspect of their body is
16:29 moving.
16:30 Their arms are moving.
16:31 Each leg is moving and that's a good sign.
16:34 If you get the agitation phase the earlier you get it
16:37 the better it is.
16:39 Sometimes we'll watch and they'll be agitated but they'll
16:42 only move one side.
16:43 Bad sign?
16:44 Well, it's not a bad sign, but it means that they may have
16:47 a problem on one side, a hemi paresis.
16:51 We may find that they move their arms but not their legs
16:55 and then we have to look and see if they've also sustained
16:57 a spinal cord injury.
16:58 So we look at that.
16:59 But if they're moving all extremities
17:02 we're relatively happy.
17:04 Now they may not at this point have any memory of what's
17:09 going on, usually would not, but early recovery is
17:13 beginning to occur.
17:14 Then as we have further healing, the swelling is decreasing, and
17:22 brain function is beginning to be restored, they may have
17:26 windows of memory.
17:28 Let's go back to that thrashing thing for a minute.
17:30 What do you do?
17:31 I suppose if I had a family member and someone was going
17:34 through that right now in my family, I would be very
17:37 worried if they were thrashing around.
17:38 What do you do, tie them up?
17:40 Do you talk to the family?
17:42 What happens there?
17:43 We used to tie them up but today we have many better ways
17:50 to treat them.
17:51 Sometimes we used to give them medications to sedate them.
17:56 But we've found better ways.
17:58 In a good rehab center what you do is place them in a safe
18:02 place so they can move around and not be injured.
18:05 There are special beds.
18:06 In fact before we had some of the beds we have now, we would
18:11 simply put a big mattress that would cover the entire room
18:16 floor and then they could move around and it was safe.
18:20 They would not be harming themselves or someone else.
18:23 So you want them to be able to move.
18:27 They don't know exactly what's going on, they're confused,
18:31 they're not sure what the lights mean, who these people are
18:36 around them, and so we can understand their confusion.
18:39 But then they will have windows of recognition.
18:42 It's very important for family members to understand some
18:46 of the stages of head injury.
18:48 So you talk with them and you explain it all to them?
18:50 Well, let me give you a sample.
18:53 The wife may be present and you ask the patient what his name is
18:59 and the patient will give you their name.
19:02 And then you'll say, "Who is that, is their anybody
19:04 next to you?"
19:05 They will look and they will see maybe there is somebody.
19:09 Then you say, "Who is that?"
19:10 They may be alert enough to know they should know
19:13 but they're not certain who it is or
19:16 they can't get the name out.
19:18 And they may have a problem we call perseveration.
19:21 That is once a thought has gone through their brain it just
19:24 keeps going over and over in their brain.
19:27 They just said their name so they say their name
19:31 for their wife's name.
19:32 That just keeps coming out for two or three times.
19:35 Often times a wife or mother can't understand why the husband
19:43 is not able to say who she is.
19:45 And she may think he is just joking, he may not realize this
19:51 is an important question, or they may be just quite offended.
19:57 It's very important for the family members to understand
20:01 these are just part of the healing process.
20:04 The patient isn't trying not to say the name but at that point
20:08 may not be capable of it.
20:09 With the rehabilitation program you begin to show them pictures
20:14 of the family members and try to bring the memory of past
20:18 events, important people, and important dates back into
20:22 their focus.
20:23 Try to repeat today's date until finally they know where
20:28 they are, who they are, and what the date is.
20:32 There is various techniques that we gently try to move the
20:37 patient through these various stages of brain recovery.
20:40 Can you do too much for someone who's coming out
20:44 of a head injury?
20:45 Yes.
20:46 Once again the family members need to work closely with the
20:49 team and the team will let the family members know what
20:53 should or should not be done to assist the patient.
20:56 I noticed when you gave the example you said that the
20:59 wife is there and the husband had the head injury.
21:03 Who has the most head injuries, males or females?
21:06 It's a sexist type disease, actually virtually 90% of males
21:14 will have a head injury some time in their life.
21:16 It may be a minor injury but any time a person looses
21:20 consciousness they've had a head injury.
21:23 I don't know if you've had a head injury, have you ever
21:26 lost consciousness?
21:27 I don't know if I want to admit to that! - laughter -
21:29 Do you mean just loosing consciousness,
21:32 being knocked out?
21:33 Being knocked out is having a head injury?
21:35 Yes.
21:36 Well, I believe I've had one then.
21:38 You would be with the vast majority of males.
21:42 Have you had one?
21:43 Yes, I've had actually quite a severe head injury.
21:47 I was amnesic for three hours and that was the result of a
21:51 bicycle accident.
21:53 That was when I was about 10 years old.
21:55 But if you ask this question to a group of females
21:59 there will just be a few that have had head injuries.
22:05 It is not because males have softer skulls, it is because
22:11 they take greater risks.
22:12 What other behaviors are fairly typical of someone that's had
22:16 a head injury?
22:17 I guess a part of that question is are there some things we
22:23 should give people that have had a head injury a break?
22:25 In other words, they act a certain way
22:27 because this happened?
22:28 I'm not talking about just getting knocked out once
22:30 or having a bicycle injury, I'm talking about
22:32 significant head injury.
22:33 I think you ought to give me a break, if I have
22:35 problems remembering, it's not my fault, it's just this
22:38 head injury! - laughter -
22:39 That's what I mean.
22:40 I'm trying to get to that point.
22:42 You know some people would blame everything on this
22:43 but what really is the problem?
22:46 Can we hold them accountable for certain things
22:51 with a head injury?
22:52 We have to see the flow of the improvement.
22:57 They go through these various stages and now you're asking
23:00 long term.
23:02 Most people with head injuries have very little sequela.
23:07 I used to hate to take care of...
23:09 What's sequela?
23:10 Sequela - long term, real substantial deficits.
23:15 It's a very small percentage of head injuries that have
23:20 large deficits.
23:24 I used to be very depressed taking care of head injured
23:27 patients until I had a chance to see these patients
23:30 one, two, three, four years out and see how well
23:34 they did returning to their occupations many times.
23:39 Now some of these patients are the most rewarding
23:43 patients that you have.
23:45 But typically, the long term effects of a head injury
23:51 are a magnification of the underlying personality.
23:58 If they were quiet, they would be more quiet.
24:01 If they were boisterous, maybe they're more boisterous.
24:05 It tends to magnify the problem.
24:09 But one area that is very, very common, they tend to be
24:14 irritable.
24:16 We can understand this.
24:18 It's easy to explain.
24:21 If I'm over-tired, if I am trying to do too many things,
24:26 it's not difficult for me to be irritable.
24:31 I have to fight irritability.
24:32 Well, that's not because of the mild injury that I had.
24:36 That's just the way human nature is.
24:38 But in a head injury, if it takes everything they can
24:45 just to do their day-to-day tasks, now you have loud sounds
24:51 and many other things, it is as if they're handling a little
24:56 extra stress like we would handle a great deal of stress.
25:01 We have to understand there's a certain measure of patience
25:04 that we should give a person like this.
25:07 This is fascinating!
25:10 Is there any other behaviors that we would look for in
25:13 someone that has had a head injury?
25:15 There is something very interesting.
25:17 If you watch a patient, particularly the males, as they
25:21 begin to become aware of their surroundings, very low level of
25:26 function, they may be quite sexually inappropriate.
25:29 What that has taught me, it doesn't take much brain function
25:33 to be sexually inappropriate.
25:36 So it's a low brain function?
25:37 Yes.
25:39 The highest activity of the brain is not at that level.
25:44 As they get more brain function that area begins to diminish.
25:52 Hopefully they get over that fairly soon.
25:55 Well, let's move from the low brain function and talk more
25:57 about high brain function.
25:58 How can we avoid having a head injury?
26:01 What types of things do you see, what kind of things
26:03 should we avoid?
26:05 Well, our lifestyle, particularly recreationally
26:08 is a problem - motorcycles, boxing, and football - these
26:14 are dangerous.
26:15 Bicycles are particularly dangerous for young people,
26:19 children I'm talking about.
26:21 A person should not do any of these activities without
26:25 wearing helmets.
26:26 If I would have had a helmet on when I was riding my
26:29 bicycle I would not have sustained a head injury.
26:33 So I am very much in favor of helmets and helmet laws
26:37 for motorcycles.
26:39 Anything other underlying those or behaviors?
26:42 Yes, the single most important risk in head injury is alcohol.
26:49 Sometimes I'll be talking to a patient and I'll ask them how
26:53 much they drink.
26:54 And they will say, "Well, I drink socially. "
26:56 There is no such thing as social drinking.
26:59 Drinking is an anti-social behavior.
27:02 If you want to avoid head injury don't drink and drive.
27:09 Some of the more recent studies have shown that you shouldn't
27:12 drink and ride a boat.
27:14 There are other studies that show that you shouldn't drink
27:18 and walk.
27:19 In other words, don't drink and drink.
27:21 What's the percentage of head injuries that are
27:25 related to alcohol?
27:26 80 percent of the injuries to the head are caused by alcohol.
27:31 80 percent, so that's a very significant that
27:34 underlies everything it looks like.
27:36 Thank you so much for joining us, Dr. Mills, for taking time
27:39 out of your very busy practice and away from your family.
27:42 We're thankful that you've joined us today on
27:45 Health for a Lifetime.
27:46 We hope that as a result of today's program you'll be
27:50 involved in behaviors that protect your most
27:53 valuable asset.
27:54 And thanks again for joining us for Health for a Lifetime.


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