Participants: Rob McClintock, Don Mackintosh
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000032
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00:48 Hello, welcome to Health for a Lifetime
00:51 I'm Don Mackintosh. 00:52 Today we're joined with Rod McClintock. 00:54 Welcome, Rob. 00:56 Thanks, Don. 00:57 We're talking today about a very important subject. 00:59 interesting subject, and that is our minds, the brain. 01:03 Why are our brains so important? 01:06 It seems like an obvious question but why 01:08 are they important? 01:10 It's a loaded question. 01:12 A lot of people think that the only thing a brain is for 01:17 is to get good grades in school or to be the smartest guy 01:22 to make the smartest crack at a party but really there are 01:27 more aspects to our brain than what we understand. 01:29 We not only just have the thinking aspect but we have the 01:33 thinking aspects broken down into sub categories. 01:38 The thought processes of doing mathematical calculations fall 01:43 in one area of our brain. 01:44 But in the battle for the mind the area of the brain that I'm 01:47 most interested in and concerned with is the 01:51 frontal lobe of the brain where we begin to understand that we 01:55 make our judgments, our understandings, it's where 02:00 we use our moral judgment to discern between things 02:06 that are right, things that are wrong, 02:08 and we know that as Christians that we 02:10 are in an environment where there's a tremendous amount 02:14 of choices to make for things that are right 02:16 or things that are wrong. 02:17 If for some reason, either through an injury or, 02:23 more importantly for this topic, things of our lifestyle, things 02:28 that we eat, drink, things we see, listen to, read, 02:31 and those types of things, if those things cause a negative 02:35 impact on the frontal lobe we will have a more difficult 02:39 time allowing God to bring us through to salvation. 02:44 The decisions we make about that are very important. 02:48 There are good foods, there are bad foods for our brains. 02:52 They're all brain foods but they have different effects 02:55 is maybe what you're saying 02:56 What are some things we really need to avoid? 02:58 We've talked earlier about alcohol, tobacco, drugs, 03:06 these are some things that have a very powerful pronounced 03:08 impact on our brain and very few people would 03:12 labor that point. 03:13 But there are things that we take into our bodies that a lot 03:16 of people do not realize has an effect on their 03:20 opportunity for moral judgment. 03:22 As a person goes around and begins to share this type of 03:27 information people begin to assign a certain 03:32 notoriety to you. 03:34 Many people feel that when you become health educator 03:38 and you begin to try to share with other people, that for some 03:41 reason you must have become judgmental. 03:44 For that reason I want to be able to share the reasons why. 03:47 I don't want to tell people, "Don't eat this, 03:49 don't drink that, do this, and don't do that. 03:52 I'd like to be able to share the reasons why. 03:54 There was a man who lived in my neighborhood a couple 03:57 years ago who was driving down the road and it was in his mind 04:02 to go to a restaurant. 04:04 He had just dropped his wife off at the airport, and she was 04:07 really into being healthy and he was not. 04:09 He said, "Great, I'm rid of her I'm going to a restaurant 04:12 and I'm going to have a pig-fest. 04:14 I am just going to eat everything that is not good 04:16 for me and drink everything that's not good for me there is 04:18 because I've got an opportunity for a whole week 04:20 to just really binge. " 04:21 He was headed for the restaurant and he met me 04:25 on the state highway. 04:26 I didn't even see him but he saw me and he determined 04:30 I must be a judgmental person and that I must be able 04:34 to read his mind. 04:35 So he had to go home and be miserable because he couldn't 04:37 go and do that. 04:39 He missed the point. 04:40 I wanted people to understand why. 04:42 I think it's great that we have a program like this 04:43 where we can share why. 04:45 Some of the foods that people do not realize are causing them 04:50 the negative impact, number 1 the sugary foods because of 04:54 how they slow down the blood flow 04:56 to the frontal lobe of the brain is something that 05:00 a lot of people understand. 05:01 But what many people do not understand, and what I call 05:05 animal sourced foods, foods that either come from an 05:07 animal or the animal himself or in past tense 05:13 foods that have a face, father a face or mother a face, 05:18 those foods can have an impact on our capacity to think clearly 05:23 and to make good moral judgments. 05:24 What would some of those impacts be? 05:26 Like for instance, I'm down there for the pig-fest with this 05:30 man and he's going to have this huge T-bone steak 05:34 and he's going to have a nice cheese sauce and some chips 05:37 and everything else right there along with it. 05:39 What's that doing to him? 05:41 Ok, let's go back and digest some of those things and find 05:43 out what happens with him 05:45 With the meat, the T-bone steak, 05:47 in animal foods, and I almost have to categorize 05:51 human breast milk in this same category because 05:55 we have something called arachidonic acid that is in 06:00 human breast milk. 06:02 It is something that effects neurotransmitters. 06:04 We have to have a balance for neurotransmitters to think 06:08 properly and there's a certain level in there. 06:10 But when you eat an animal now you are beginning to take 06:14 higher levels of this particular substance in your body. 06:18 Meat in particular is very high in this acid. 06:21 It effects your neurotransmitter solutions. 06:25 It makes a definite impact on how the acetylcholine 06:30 is produced. 06:32 It retards the amount of acetylcholine. 06:33 What does that mean? 06:35 You eat meat, you're saying, animal products and then 06:40 it stimulates acetylcholine, but what does that mean? 06:43 What we're talking about is the fact that now the transfer 06:48 of information from one nerve cell to the next 06:51 in the frontal lobe where we make our judgment calls 06:53 begins to be effected so that the type of information that is 06:58 being passed along is not as reliable. 07:01 It may change the speed that it is being transferred at. 07:04 Many people notice after they eat a big meal like that, 07:08 that their clarity of thought just is not there anymore. 07:12 There's another chemical in meat that's a companion 07:18 to this acid. 07:19 It's a hydroxycorticosteriod. 07:21 It has sufficient size to its molecules to prevent them from 07:27 being passed through the blood brain barrier. 07:28 People say, "What does that really mean?" 07:31 "What does that do to me as far as my spiritual 07:34 experience with the Lord?" 07:36 They are a stimulant and while they do not stimulate 07:42 the frontal lobe to make more spiritual decisions they do 07:47 have the capacity to stimulate the lower parts of the brain 07:51 where the blood brain barrier is not as intense. 07:53 These lower parts where our lower natures reside, 07:57 that is where our, we'd maybe call it our animal passions 08:02 reside, when those are stimulated we begin to act 08:06 more like the animal that we just ate. 08:09 One health educator semi-humorously 08:14 said this is perhaps a way we can begin to assimilate 08:18 the image of the beast. 08:20 Because that beast-like animal propensity begins to be 08:24 stimulated and brought out more and it's not being overridden 08:28 by the higher nature. 08:29 In other words, these foods that we eat really can have an 08:33 effect - processed foods of any kind. 08:36 Well, let's go away from meat for a time. 08:40 When you say meat, I'm sure you mean red meat. 08:44 But do you mean fish or chicken? 08:48 Would that all be categorized as meat then? 08:51 Primarily and I know that some people would argue that 08:54 point, but as a classification you're going to find these 08:58 substances pretty much all the way through - higher and lower 09:01 in certain sub-categories. 09:03 The one that you mentioned before, that was the cheese. 09:07 Sometimes I go to churches and I talk in these terms to the 09:11 people in the churches. 09:12 You can talk about meat but you're not supposed to talk 09:17 about cheese. 09:18 I can see why. 09:19 I think probably a lot of people like cheese. 09:21 You know, I grew up loving cheese. 09:23 I grew up in Wisconsin the dairy state. 09:25 I remember every time I'd come home from school 09:28 that was one of the first things I wanted to do was rush 09:30 home and get into the refrigerator when Mom 09:31 wasn't looking and get a little piece of cheese before she 09:35 caught me and run away. 09:36 What does it do to us? 09:37 I'm sure you're going to tell us. 09:40 One of the things that concerns me is the fact that there are 09:45 so many disease particles allowed to be in cheese. 09:50 We're talking in terms of maybe equivalent to the population 09:55 of the earth in disease organisms in a pound of cheese 09:58 allowable by the federal government. 10:01 That disturbed me a little bit from the standpoint of health 10:05 but for spiritual health, what does cheese do? 10:08 Cheese contains a number of substances, one is called 10:12 tryptamine and another one tyramine. 10:14 And these again, begin to interfere with the 10:18 neurotransmitters in the brain. 10:19 And the neurotransmitters specifically in the frontal lobe 10:23 tryptamine effects the brain similarly to LSD, although 10:28 not as in large a quantity. 10:29 I just went down hill skiing the other day and I was 10:32 trying to go down those black diamond runs and keep up 10:35 with the teenagers. 10:36 As I was doing it I happened to remember a man who used to 10:39 work for me. 10:40 One of his hobbies was to take LSD and then go down hill skiing 10:44 on the black diamond runs. 10:46 Sounds like a deadly combination to me. 10:47 Yes, he said it was a real challenge because little 10:51 purple and green animals would be going across the 10:53 moguls in front of him and he would have to 10:54 dodge through them. 10:55 He would come home and tell me all the wild stories. 10:58 I said, "Hey, who needs it?" 11:00 I didn't want it. 11:02 But yet we eat these things that actually effect our minds 11:06 in the same way. 11:07 Do you think most people even know that? 11:09 Do they realize, those that may be eating these things, 11:15 I think most people watching today are eating the very 11:17 things you're talking about, do they notice that? 11:19 What is it that you noticed that type of thing? 11:21 How can you be so sure of that? 11:24 One of the things that happens to people is they say, "I eat it 11:28 and it's never happened to me. " 11:29 Well, when you go into a induced state that's different than 11:34 you normally should be mentally, you're not aware of it. 11:37 If you're semi-drugged and slowed down you don't really 11:42 recognize it. 11:43 If you're very slowly lifted up you don't really recognize it. 11:45 The person who really recognizes it is the guy who drinks 13 cups 11:48 of coffee at once and says, "Oh, I'm buzzed!" 11:50 Typically we would not recognize these things happening to us. 11:55 When you can't think, you don't know you can't think. 11:57 That's a good point. 11:59 We're talking to Dr. Rob McClintock. 12:02 You have shared with us some things that I think maybe 12:07 have stepped on a few toes. 12:08 But I don't think you're through yet. 12:10 I think there's some other things you're going to 12:11 share with us. 12:12 When we come back you're going to be talking about 12:15 the television and music. 12:18 I can't think of some more emotionally charged things. 12:21 So when we come back we'll continue this discussion. 12:24 We'll focus on how television and music can effect 12:28 the frontal lobe. 12:37 Have you found yourself wishing that you could 12:38 shed a few pounds? 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14:53 Why would we even talk about that? 14:56 People are watching this show right now. 14:58 Well, Don, I certainly thought about that as I prepared 15:01 for this program. 15:02 I wondered exactly what I dared say about television 15:05 and what I wouldn't. 15:07 I'm glad that we have some Christian broadcasting 15:10 to put some more positive choices other than what we see 15:16 on the run-of-the-mill TV today. 15:18 One of the things that bothers me about television, and has 15:22 for a long time, is the content. 15:24 What does television do for the mind 15:27 in terms of content? 15:29 One day I began to look to see what I could see on a TV 15:34 when I had nothing to do and I began to do some 15:36 channel surfing. 15:37 You're popping the buttons looking for something. 15:39 I decided to take the New Testament direction of 15:44 whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are pure, 15:48 whatsoever things are true, and of good report, on and on, 15:52 think on these things. 15:53 I applied that to the TV. 15:55 I couldn't find anything that would fit and 15:57 pass the criteria. 15:58 And I said, "Well, what is on TV?" 16:00 I began to make an analysis. 16:01 The things that I began to see on the TV were things that 16:04 glorified immorality, sexuality, human sensuality a lot. 16:10 That was pretty heavy. 16:11 Dishonesty was exemplified as being a good, positive trait. 16:18 The end justifies the means. 16:20 I saw a tremendous amount of violent behavior. 16:23 It began to play on my mind that if I was feeding this type 16:30 of information into my mind that this type of information 16:34 could begin to be part of the formative aspect 16:38 of my character. 16:39 And that began to upset me a little bit about having the 16:42 television. 16:43 I didn't have much opportunity with that because my wife 16:47 decided to get rid of the television. 16:49 I was addicted. 16:50 Here's another thing that I find negative about television 16:53 it's very, very, highly addictive. 16:54 When my wife took the television and sold it in a yard sale 16:59 I went into withdrawal. 17:00 I literally got depressed over the whole thing. 17:02 I did not know what to do with myself that was constructive. 17:05 I got another TV and she got rid of that one. 17:08 Three attempts I finally said, "I can't afford to continue 17:11 to do this, I'll have to live without it!" 17:13 I began to find that my life became constructive again 17:18 and my productivity went up dramatically. 17:21 Relationships between myself and my family members 17:24 began to blossom and I began to wonder what there really was 17:28 to the physiology of watching television. 17:31 Recently, about a year or two ago, I was doing a seminar 17:37 and I asked a large congregation of people, 17:39 "You're all Christians, is that correct?" 17:41 They all raised their hands, yes, they were Christians. 17:43 I said, "How many of you would go to a hypnotherapist?" 17:47 No hands. 17:50 I said, "Would you pay money to get hypnotized?" 17:53 No. 17:54 Would you allow someone to hypnotize you 17:56 if they did it free? 17:58 No. 17:59 What if it was for entertainment? 18:01 No. 18:02 I said, "Then why do you have a television in your house?" 18:04 You could have heard a pin drop 18:07 pretty loud in that auditorium that day. 18:09 Then I began to share with these people. 18:11 As you watch television, according to the information 18:16 that I have seen where they've actually taken and done 18:18 brain scans on people watching TV programs 18:23 it's only 3 or 4 minutes into the programming 18:28 where you get really intent into it. 18:30 Your mind basically, the judgmental part of your mind 18:33 where you have a lot of the beta wave forms, begins to switch 18:38 almost totally to alpha wave forms. 18:40 The mind now begins to become anesthetized 18:44 and become passive. 18:46 We begin to assimilate and store information rapidly 18:52 as it hits us. 18:53 You know if you watch a lot of TV programs you don't watch 18:57 a quiet, deadpan program. 18:59 It's tons of flash, flash, flash, flash 19:02 different things coming to you all the time. 19:04 That became very pronounced into my mind one night when 19:07 I was trying to sleep on an international air flight. 19:10 I was going across the Pacific Ocean and I had 19:12 ear plugs in but the lights kept flashing. 19:15 I was trying to figure out what was flashing - a strobe light? 19:17 It was the TV that was overhead of me that was flashing down 19:19 different scenes so quickly. 19:21 All of this information constantly in a very 19:23 disorganized way, not being processed but just stored, 19:27 and I began to realize, as I studied, that we are storing 19:32 the information without passing any judgment on it. 19:34 So what you're suggesting then is that the very medium itself 19:40 there's something wrong. 19:41 It doesn't matter if there's good programming, 19:44 Christian programming, scientific programming, 19:48 the history channel, or whatever if it's delivered in this rapid 19:54 sort of way, is what I hear you saying, 19:56 that's just negative in and of itself? 19:59 That's as I understand it, what is happening. 20:02 The mind becomes in a trance like state. 20:07 I know people who only watch Christian broadcasting 20:11 but forget to read their Bible because they feel they are 20:16 assimilating so much information and storing so much positive 20:20 information that they don't need to pray, study, read, 20:23 don't need the fellowship because they are getting that. 20:27 Even too much of a good thing because of the delivery format 20:31 can have a negative impact. 20:34 So is there a place at all for television in our lives? 20:37 Should we have any television? 20:38 Well, I believe there can be a positive place. 20:41 Don, I really believe it depends on the person. 20:44 For me, I can't have one. 20:47 You don't put a bar in a former alcoholics house. 20:52 You make no provision for the flesh. 20:54 For me as a former, ardent TV addict 20:56 I really don't care to have one. 20:58 I enjoy the fact that where I live I'm so far away from 21:02 anything that there is no TV reception. 21:04 If I have one it really doesn't make any difference. 21:06 For those who have the capacity not to be like the way that I 21:14 was made up to be, there are some good things. 21:17 We have some nature programs that are good. 21:19 We have some programs like the ones we're producing today 21:23 that can provide meaningful information. 21:26 But I think it's something that we have to do a very strong 21:34 amount of prayerful choosing with. 21:37 Before we leave this subject of television, you did have an 21:41 interesting bit of research, a graphic that undergirds this. 21:45 One of the things it's ok to say something but to be able 21:50 to back it up is even more important. 21:58 A particular broadcast person very blatantly told the truth 22:05 and then again told a lie and asked the people to discriminate 22:11 which choice was the truth. 22:25 The radio listeners scored the highest with 73%, 22:27 newspaper readers 64%, and TV viewers about the same 22:32 odds as flipping a nickel. 22:34 So those who watch television were the worst and those who 22:38 listen, oral presentations, were the best. 22:40 That's correct. 22:41 That's interesting. 22:44 Well, let's switch gears here looking now at music. 22:48 We have a few more moments. 22:50 You have two teenage daughters. 22:53 I'm sure they have music tastes just like anybody else. 22:56 But what about the subject of music? 22:59 Is there good music? 23:01 Is there bad music for our frontal lobes? 23:04 Well, music can be very, very much like TV in the fact that 23:09 you have a rapid transfer of information and you have a 23:15 tremendous amount of music pieces. 23:19 Music is not just music. 23:20 We think if flows but it actually an assembly of 23:24 different parts of information. 23:26 Each one of these is a stimulus to the brain and to the mind. 23:30 You mention taste. 23:33 My teenage daughters, we still have this little dialogue 23:36 about whether Dad has a different taste and if it's all 23:39 just taste or if there's actually something that is right 23:41 or wrong about music. 23:43 We know that music can be hypnotic. 23:45 You go to the Mid Eastern India and watch the snake charmers. 23:49 These guys have learned an art out of being somewhat hypnotic 23:53 with the type of music. 23:55 How it really got to me personally as I relate to music, 24:00 I was into the acid rock, the heavy metal, years ago. 24:04 I couldn't live without it. 24:06 I was addicted. 24:07 I began to become a Christian. 24:10 The Lord began to reveal Himself to me. 24:12 He began to reveal that I was lost and that I needed Him. 24:15 I need to repent and become renewed. 24:17 So I began to pray and study a lot. 24:20 At work I would listen to this trashy music all day long. 24:24 The Holy Spirit began to reveal to me that there was a battle, 24:29 a battle in my mind. 24:31 The Lord said to me, "If you're going to be praying and studying 24:36 it's incompatible with what you're feeding your mind 24:38 the rest of the part of the day. " 24:39 I struggled with that. 24:41 So, then I went to regular rock-n-roll music, 24:43 the top 40 type thing, because there was less Satanism and 24:48 drug culture lyrics and that type of thing. 24:51 I made that transition. 24:53 I began to realize it was hypnotic, number one 24:56 it overpowered my mind, my power of suggestion, but it 25:01 glorified sexuality, dishonesty, and violence. 25:04 So I made the transfer to country music. 25:07 I said, "Ok, I won't listen to that stuff but the Lord 25:10 will be happy with country music, yes, it's a little bit 25:13 corny sometimes, it's maybe dumb but at least it's more 25:15 down home, the Lord will be ok with this. " 25:17 The same thing - it went back to being hypnotic, glorifying 25:20 sexuality, immorality, intemperance, dishonesty, and 25:25 those things. 25:26 I went to dentist chair music. 25:27 But you know what? 25:28 I knew all the words. 25:29 So, I then went to classical music which I didn't care for. 25:35 But we find that in studies that people who listen to 25:39 classical music have more creativity and more powers 25:42 of abstract thinking. 25:44 In a study where they took rodents and subjected them 25:48 to the various types of music, those that had been subjected 25:52 to weeks of rock music, and was allowed chaotic tones of music 25:55 on autopsies of their brains they actually had developed 25:59 aberrant neuropath ways in their brains that were somewhat 26:02 permanent. 26:03 What you're saying then about music is that there is 26:07 good music that we can listen to in place of these 26:11 others that just feed our minds with things that we really don't 26:14 want in them. 26:15 Correct. 26:16 We've talked a lot about the frontal lobe and different 26:19 aspects of how we can treat it healthfully or how we can 26:23 actually abuse it. 26:24 In the last minute we have together why don't you share 26:27 with our listeners what are some of the positive things 26:29 we can do. 26:30 Let's say we've been into cheese, meat, alcohol, tobacco, 26:35 everything we've talked about and we're coming out, 26:40 what should we do that can re-program or make our 26:45 frontal lobes healthier? 26:46 Well, Don, I believe that in redemption we have an aspect 26:51 of regeneration and recreation. 26:54 I believe that as we are making more positive choices 26:58 that we should believe that God creates us new creatures. 27:02 David in Psalm 51 says, "Create in me a clean heart. " 27:06 I believe we are going to be renewed by making positive 27:10 choices in faith. 27:12 So renewing our minds, making decisions, and asking the Lord 27:16 to lead us in these decisions. 27:18 You know, I think today has been one of our 27:20 most important programs just talking about the mind, 27:24 talking about the brain, decisions in the midst of a 27:27 great conflict between good and evil. 27:30 We hope that today's program will bring you 27:33 health for a lifetime. |
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