Participants: John Lomacang (Host), John Stanton
Series Code: HCL
Program Code: HCL170002A
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00:01 Hello, friends, grab your Bible and a friend and sit back
00:03 as we explore God's word together 00:05 on this edition of House Calls. 00:27 Hello, and welcome to House Calls. 00:29 My name is John and so is his name. 00:33 We are two and we are one. 00:37 Brothers from a different mother. 00:38 Brothers from a different mother. 00:39 Thank you for tuning into House Calls. 00:41 Today we are so excited whenever we get a chance 00:43 to open the Word of God and share with you. 00:46 It is our privilege 00:47 and so invite your friends and family. 00:49 If you are by yourself, just get your Bibles 00:52 and sit down and walk with us through this thought provoking 00:55 time of study in God's Word. 00:58 John, you know, whenever the Bible is opened, 00:59 it's always a privilege. 01:01 Absolutely and you know the Lord, 01:04 sometimes we like to read it as a book 01:07 that reads like a treatise. 01:08 But it's not, it's a story. That's right. 01:11 It's God's story of who He is and how He has changed 01:14 the hearts of men and it's a blessing 01:15 to be able to just unfold it and talk about it. 01:18 That's right and we're gonna learn 01:19 let our viewers and listeners know 01:21 that there is no greater joy than to read 01:24 from the Word of God and to share 01:26 as we walk through it together. 01:28 So before we do that, let's ask for the power 01:31 and the direction of God's Holy Spirit. 01:33 John, would you pray for us? Yes. 01:35 Father in heaven, again we ask for You to empower us, 01:40 both in thought and in Word, may You make Your Word 01:45 just come alive today, may it be clear 01:48 and may You speak to our hearts in Jesus' name. 01:50 Amen. Amen. 01:53 As many of you know questions is a very important part. 01:58 A question, well, questions are very important part 02:01 of our program today and all the time, 02:03 and so if you have any questions 02:05 that you would like to send to us via email, 02:07 send those questions to housecalls@3abn.org. 02:11 That's housecalls@3abn.org and many times, 02:16 John downloads the ones from the internet 02:19 and I get the snail mail. 02:21 And so we thank you for your participation, 02:25 and your prayers, and support of 3ABN's network. 02:29 John, what question do you have for us today? 02:32 Well, I've got a question that I won't read verbatim, 02:35 Joe sends in his question in regard to something 02:38 that was said previously on this program. 02:41 A comment that was made that the God of, the Christ, 02:45 the God that Christians pray to is the same God 02:48 that Muslims pray to. 02:50 Okay. Allah is God, same. 02:55 And so they took opposition to that 02:59 and I would say we need to be careful 03:02 as to how we conclude 03:05 or at least coming to do a decision 03:09 or conclusion on that very issue. 03:12 You see, one of the things that Bible does say 03:15 in regard to the Arab countries and the Arab world is that 03:21 the God of Abraham blessed Ishmael 03:26 and his descendents which is why 03:28 they are blessed and growing today. 03:33 And in fact the fastest growing people group, 03:37 one of the fastest growing people groups in the world 03:38 is the Arab world. 03:42 If it wasn't for the sake if there was so much turmoil 03:45 and bloodshed and wars 03:47 that were happening and everything, 03:48 they would be even growing faster. 03:50 But I bring that up to say that God had His hand, 03:55 John, in very much the growth of the Arab world 03:59 that originated and began 04:01 with Ishmael and his descendents. 04:04 If you want to know where that scripture is, 04:07 I'll just point to it here real quick, 04:08 it's Genesis 17:20. 04:15 And as for Ishmael, "I have heard you, 04:17 and will behold I have blessed him 04:19 and will make him fruitful 04:21 and will multiple him exceedingly. 04:23 He shall beget 12 princes 04:26 and I will make him a great nation." 04:29 And we're seeing that, there're many countries 04:31 in the Arab world, nations that have grown, of course, 04:33 they've their sects and disagreement. 04:36 Sects, is in S-E-C-T-S and disagreements overtime 04:41 but yet that blessing still is being seen 04:45 that originated with God himself. 04:47 They would, in asking them, they would point back 04:50 to that verse and not just that verse, 04:53 they believe that it wasn't Isaac 04:56 on the mountain with Abraham, 04:58 it was Ishmael but they point back 04:59 to this story at least, 05:03 referring to God's hand in blessing the Arab world. 05:07 And so we can't say definitively that the God 05:12 that Christians pray to is not the God Allah 05:16 who Muslims pray to. 05:18 What we can say is this though, if we're praying to God 05:23 and we act like the devil, the God we're praying to 05:28 isn't the correct view of God anyway, 05:30 wouldn't you agree? 05:31 True. 05:32 So same goes for Christianity, same goes for the Muslim world, 05:36 you have radical extremists today 05:39 that are doing things that are an expression 05:43 of who they believe God is. 05:46 They pray to a God that is not the true God, we can say that. 05:51 But we can also say there's some Christians 05:54 who have had images or views of God 05:56 that are far different than His true character... 05:58 Right. 05:59 Have also prayed to a God that is not the true God. 06:02 True. 06:03 Look at the time of the crusades 06:07 and the horrific things they did 06:09 to some of the Arab worlds in the name of God, 06:12 the Church of Rome were behind most of that. 06:15 So we can't just make a blanket statement to say 06:18 the Christian God is the true God, 06:19 Muslim God is the false God. 06:21 I think it, John, it has more to do 06:23 with who your God is. 06:27 And we know ultimately that's kind of like, 06:29 that's the Sabbath issue kind of as well, right? 06:34 I think you've asked this question in the past. 06:35 The question isn't so much which day is, who is your God? 06:38 Right. 06:39 And the Bible says that in Exodus 20, 06:41 "The seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God." 06:44 So it all comes down to who is your God. 06:46 Yeah. 06:48 So you could, I think in history, 06:51 in time with people groups whoever it may be, 06:53 when they're praying, their recognition 06:55 or who they are praying to is more to do 06:57 with in their mind, in their heart, 07:00 in their pursuits of God who they are seeking, 07:04 then it has to do with simply a name, Allah, God. 07:08 So that's all I'm gonna say about that, John, 07:10 I just don't want to get too much into that, 07:12 I just, I don't like blanket sweeping statements. 07:15 I think sweeping statements can often get not only us 07:18 into trouble but it often paints the wrong picture. 07:21 Okay, that's a good one. Thank you, John. 07:25 Truly, 07:28 God is God but we know that the word Allah and Jesus 07:35 are not the same. 07:38 This is an interesting question sent from someone says, 07:42 your sister in Christ and I won't give her name, 07:46 but she is our sister in Christ. 07:50 She says, "Praise the Lord 07:52 my brothers and sister in the Lord first. 07:55 I would like to say that I enjoy your program on 3ABN. 07:58 I feel blessed to have found your television station 08:01 on antenna, TV tuning," 08:04 and this person watches and they say, 08:08 "I had been Pentecostal for 44 years and those 44 years 08:12 I have become acquainted with the dogmas 08:15 of each of that Christian denominations, 08:17 you know, God and Christ, 08:19 Pentecostals, Apostolic, or Jesus only Pentecostals, 08:23 or Adventist Christians with respect 08:26 to these Christian denominations 08:29 as they all are based on the Word of God. 08:32 But the question that she asked was very interesting, she says, 08:36 "According to Apostolic Pentecostals, 08:39 if you baptize in Jesus name, you don't have it right, 08:44 that's missing out. 08:47 According to Adventist Christians, 08:49 if you do not keep the Sabbath, you don't have it right, 08:53 that's missing out..." 08:54 Now she's doing some kind of comparisons 08:57 and the questions she asked was not so much, 08:59 which one of us is right? 09:02 But she asks this question. 09:05 "I just wanted to ask the Adventist, 09:07 what would this world be if everyone refuse 09:11 to do any work on Saturday, 09:13 like military, first responders, 09:16 hospital personnel, 09:18 since God is no respecter of persons, 09:21 are they excused?" 09:22 And I thank you so much for this question. 09:25 John, look up the passage where Jesus talked about 09:29 if your ox falls into the pit on the Sabbath, 09:34 would you leave him there? 09:37 Thank you so much sister for bringing this question out. 09:39 Now when the Bible says, "Thou shall not do any work" 09:43 speaking about the Sabbath command. 09:45 First part of that, what will the world be 09:47 if no one worked on the Sabbath 09:53 like military, first responders, 09:55 hospital personnel, what would this world be? 09:58 Perfect. 09:59 Just to be very candid with you. 10:01 It will be perfect but since we don't have 10:04 a perfect world, we have need of these elements of society, 10:08 military, police, first responders, hospitals. 10:12 If the world never had sin, there would be no need 10:15 of any of these things at all. 10:17 Now when I use the military in a lighter sense 10:20 because military we know on one side military, 10:24 the purpose of military is to keep peace, 10:27 secure nations as we're sleeping, 10:30 there're submarines, 10:31 there're planes patrolling the skies, 10:35 there are all kinds of military operations 10:39 securing the borders of our nation 10:41 for only one reason, 10:43 those outside of our nation that would want to do us harm 10:46 and that's true in all different governments, 10:48 I think each government that has a strong military 10:50 or that has a military presence has that kind of function. 10:55 But what would happen, 10:59 is it something that is excused? 11:02 Let me read the King James version here 11:05 for a particular moment, 11:06 then I'm gonna make some emphasis. 11:09 The word servile work, when it talked about 11:13 honoring the Sabbath, what was excluded was, 11:18 you shall do no servile work on this day. 11:22 And the word servile, I'll give you an example, 11:25 Numbers 28:25. 11:27 "On the seventh day 11:28 you shall have a holy convocation, 11:30 you shall do no servile work." 11:33 Physical labor when it came to, not the needs of the hungry, 11:39 not the needs of those in medical, 11:42 not the needs of those who are in special cases, 11:45 somebody had to respond to an emergency in that home, 11:48 that's not servile work, 11:51 those were all categorically put 11:53 where the needs of the people came above and by the way, 11:58 Sabbath was made for the good of man, 12:00 not for the injury of man. 12:03 And so Jesus faced many of these issues 12:05 because the Jews misunderstood the importance of the Sabbath. 12:08 They knew it was a holy day, but they made extra laws 12:11 that made the Sabbath a burden, 12:13 such as if you spat on the ground, 12:15 then you would be guilty of what's it called irrigation. 12:19 Then you will be guilty of wetting the ground 12:22 and what if the plants starts to grow up 12:24 then you would have irrigated 12:26 or watered the ground on the Sabbath. 12:28 Now they also mentioned a phrase like 12:29 the Sabbath days journey, talked about that 12:31 in the Book of Acts which was in fact 12:35 a particular distance and you could only, 12:37 they made these laws but they made ways 12:39 to break these laws by saying, 12:41 well, the only way you can travel 12:43 more than this distance on Sabbath is 12:46 if you took food to that person's house 12:49 the day before and on the Sabbath, 12:51 you wanted to go ahead and partake of that food 12:53 or eat with them. 12:54 But what would the world be, the world would be perfect 12:59 if everyone kept the Sabbath. 13:02 However, because of the kind of world in which we live, 13:05 the Bible makes allowances for the needy, for the sick, 13:11 we have hospitals and by the way, 13:13 you may or may not know this 13:14 but the Seventh-day Adventist Church 13:17 runs one of the largest hospital systems in the world. 13:21 If in fact our hospital is closed on the Sabbath, 13:24 this is a different atmosphere on these hospitals 13:27 but if somebody has a trauma they will go to emergency room, 13:30 these are for the needs of the individuals. 13:32 People need round the clock here. 13:35 There is somebody at the bedside of that individual. 13:37 The Lord does not look at this as violating the Sabbath, 13:40 once again, Mark 2:27-28, 13:43 "The Sabbath was made for the good of man." 13:46 And do you have that passage, John? 13:48 Yeah, this one is from Matthew 12:11. 13:53 Jesus said, "What man is there among you, 13:56 who has one sheep 13:58 and if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath 14:00 will not lay hold of it and lift it out, 14:03 or how much more value is a man than a sheep, 14:07 therefore, it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath." 14:11 So I think probably what some of the imagery is 14:15 by those who object to Sabbath keeping 14:18 by Adventist is this thought that we're doing it rigidly 14:22 and as kind of this works based system 14:27 with a set of laws in front of us of can and cannot, 14:32 and I'll tell you as a pastor, this is just a practical, 14:35 my practical response to that. 14:37 So, Pastor, if anybody were ever to ask me 14:39 for a list of things that's permissible 14:41 or not permissible to do on the Sabbath, 14:42 I wouldn't do it. 14:46 Right. 14:47 Because I think list are intuitively giving us 14:51 the wrong perspective. 14:52 I think that is pharisaical. 14:55 And it means not to say there's some Adventists 14:57 keep the Sabbath in a pharisaical way, 14:59 I believe that happens to a great degree. 15:02 The Sabbath is made for our time with God, 15:06 for us to spend quality time with God in a relationship. 15:10 And anything that we do that takes away from that, 15:13 that removes our ability to spend that time, 15:15 the quality time with God, 15:17 I think we should just throw it out, 15:19 we shouldn't plan it, we shouldn't go and do it. 15:23 I can tell you a story, John, right after 15:25 I was going through a process of conversion, 15:30 the Lord was really speaking to me. 15:32 I decided I was gonna go ahead and try to play a tournament 15:36 that I used to, had enjoyed playing 15:40 that went over a weekend period. 15:42 So I went down to the beach and we had this tournament, 15:43 this is in Southern California. 15:45 And the first games were on Friday and then, 15:51 no, no, first games were on Saturday, 15:52 second schedule of games were on Sunday 15:56 if you made it that far. 15:57 Anyways, so I reasoned in my mind, I rationalize, 16:00 you know, you ever think about something long enough, 16:02 you're gonna tuck yourself in the way. 16:04 And so I rationalize that I would witness. 16:09 I'll just play but I'll witness while I'm playing. 16:13 That didn't happen. 16:14 In fact I was more focused on winning the game 16:18 that I forgot all about my commitment to witness. 16:21 So in a practical sense, my playing that game 16:26 and competition, the other things 16:27 that I was doing on that day took away 16:29 from by time with God. 16:32 And so I kind of learned a lesson from that, 16:34 if that what would govern my activities 16:38 in the future with God? 16:40 Would be things that are always conducive 16:42 to advancing and building my relationship with Jesus. 16:47 And that's the only measure that I put, 16:50 I rest from my work just to provide for myself financially 16:55 and other ways and I put my trust in God 16:58 and spent time with Him. 17:01 And so to me that's the best thing 17:04 when it comes to Sabbath as far as governing 17:06 what we should and should not do 17:08 rather than list. 17:09 Rather than list. 17:11 People tend to, we tend to legalize the Sabbath. 17:16 Want to be very careful that we don't legalize the Sabbath, 17:20 not in the context of the comparison 17:21 to make the Sabbath illegal. 17:24 It's a legal transaction only because 17:26 it's a commandment of God 17:28 but it's very much a heart issue. 17:32 Who is your God? 17:34 When you realize that, when you read the Bible, 17:36 the Bible puts the Sabbath in a very heart centered place 17:40 in so many cases. 17:42 I'll give you an example. 17:44 Let's go back to the reference about first responders, 17:48 the nurses, doctors, hospitals, military, 17:52 this flies in the face of reality. 17:55 Isaiah 58:13, "If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath 18:00 from doing your pleasure on my holy day." 18:03 These are not pleasure positions, 18:05 these are not positions of pleasure, 18:06 these are positions of necessity. 18:09 I'll give you another example, what if, 18:12 and we have a lot of automation today, 18:14 even here at 3ABN we have automation. 18:16 We may, we've gone over to a system 18:18 where there was somebody that, 18:20 many in the past would have to sit there 18:22 and make sure, when 3ABN first started 18:24 there was somebody that had to literally take out the VHS, 18:29 put in the next one, and if they were not there, 18:33 you wouldn't be seeing 3ABN. 18:35 That wasn't violating the Sabbath 18:38 by doing work on the Sabbath, that was living of the... 18:42 That was working for the gospel, 18:44 living of the gospel. 18:45 So they physically did that. 18:47 Now we have automation where the only time 18:49 the engineers and many other guys live 18:50 in air shot here. 18:52 So if anything happens automatically 18:54 machines will kick into a either slate, you know, 18:57 we're having technical difficulties, 18:58 while they are clicking to some kind of video. 19:00 But then again, that's more of the heart issue 19:03 rather than saying, well, now we're keeping the Sabbath, 19:06 but in the past we were not. 19:08 The issue is these are your own pleasures, 19:11 your own words that the Lord was saying, 19:13 when that comes into the fray, 19:16 we're not having a relationship. 19:17 Right, yeah. 19:19 You know, and I go back to the example, 19:23 the steel worker on his anniversary, 19:28 if an emergency arises that the steel 19:31 that he constructed a building which falls 19:33 and there is this catastrophic event, 19:35 he's not gonna say "Well, honey, you know, 19:38 it is the Sabbath, it is our anniversary, 19:41 I know there is a major emergency downtown 19:44 and I did get a call, I'm gonna ignore it, 19:47 because we just want to enjoy our time together." 19:49 The needs of humanity are what Jesus also built 19:53 into the observance of the Sabbath. 19:57 And the question is, 19:59 is it lawful to do good on the Sabbath? 20:01 Jesus said, "It is lawful to do good on the Sabbath." 20:06 Well, you know, John, it's interesting, 20:08 you don't have to go very far back to realize 20:11 and to know that Sabbath keeping 20:14 was rigid among all groups, 20:17 especially with regard to Sunday, 20:19 just a few decades ago, today often, you know, 20:23 Adventists are thought of as the ones 20:25 that are little more legalistic, 20:28 but if you go back a few years, a few decades actually, 20:31 you'll find that Sunday keeping was very rigid, 20:34 in fact to the point were there are laws 20:37 against even opening up your store on Sunday. 20:39 That's true. 20:40 So, you know, this picture of the fact 20:43 they don't have any sort of legalistic ones 20:44 and it's just not simply true, 20:46 it's affected all groups that are sought to respond to God, 20:51 because they love Him, 20:53 they want to give Him themselves, 20:54 they're all prone, we're all prone 20:56 to a legalistic approach to doing that. 21:00 You know, Sabbath is not a bad day. 21:03 Understatement. 21:04 It's not a bad day, this Sabbath has received 21:07 such bad rap, I'm wondering, I'm not wondering, 21:11 I know what's behind it. 21:12 Yeah. 21:14 But it's amazing when, even in Christianity 21:16 when you mention, 21:17 remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy, 21:19 it's like you just pressed the atomic button 21:22 in some denominations, it's jeered, 21:26 it's talked off in a flipping way, 21:29 it's mocked, it's spoken off as, 21:33 "That's not the only day I worship on." 21:35 Well, that was never said. 21:37 It says remember the Sabbath day 21:38 to keep it holy, keep it holy. 21:40 You can't keep any other day holy, 21:42 'cause the Lord never made any day holy, 21:44 any other day holy. 21:45 I remember growing up 21:47 when I was dating my wife Angela, 21:51 I was at her house on a Sunday and her mom asked me 21:54 to help cut the hedges. 21:56 So she gave me these shears, you know. 22:00 So I went out there cutting the hedges 22:02 and a lady walks by me, 22:03 well dressed, on her way to church obviously, 22:07 because she said to me, 22:08 "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy." 22:12 And she said this on a Sunday. 22:14 I was so caught off guard, I was frozen like an ice tray 22:17 just in the position with the hedges 22:20 like a deer caught in the headlights 22:22 'cause she caught me off guard. 22:24 She said, "Remember the Sabbath day 22:26 to keep it holy." 22:27 And she was referring to Sunday as the Sabbath. 22:29 Yeah. 22:30 So I sat on the front of the steps waiting for her 22:31 to come back to clear it up but she never came back 22:33 or went home a different way. 22:35 In the minds of some individuals 22:37 Sunday is the Sabbath, but in the mind of God 22:40 and in the Word of God, 22:43 Saturday from sunset, Friday to sunset, 22:46 Sabbath is in fact the Sabbath day. 22:51 From sunset Friday to sunset Saturday 22:53 is the Sabbath day. 22:56 Another question about setting up the kingdom of God, 23:03 Micah 4 and Isaiah 2 speaks of a kingdom, 23:06 all nations flowing to the mountain of God. 23:12 Specifically and they are talking about, 23:16 when is the kingdom of God going to be set up 23:22 during the millennium or before the millennium? 23:26 Now when you read Daniel 2, the Bible says 23:30 speaking about the four kingdoms of the world, 23:34 Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome, 23:36 and the Bible says in the days of these kings 23:39 shall the God of heaven set up another kingdom 23:41 which shall never be destroyed. 23:43 Now you got to remember, in the days of those kings, 23:46 not after those kings but in the days of these kings, 23:51 God has always had a kingdom. 23:53 But when the disciples prayed, they pray their prayer, 23:58 "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth 24:02 as it is in heaven." 24:04 Matthew 6:10. 24:06 But you will notice also Jesus made it very clear that, 24:10 "My kingdom is not of this world. 24:13 If My kingdom were of this world, 24:14 My disciples would fight." 24:17 But you may also point out that when Jesus began to preach, 24:23 He said the kingdom is, 24:25 the kingdom of heaven is at hand. 24:27 So the kingdom is established now, 24:30 we are in kingdom living now. 24:33 What's the difference with the millennium 24:35 is that sinless kingdom will come 24:39 at the end of the 1000 years. 24:42 Meaning, when sin is all eradicated, 24:44 all done away with, 24:46 but the 1000 years those who will be spending in heaven, 24:49 the saints will be a part of that eternal kingdom already. 24:53 But is the kingdom gonna be established? 24:56 Seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness. 25:00 How can you seek a kingdom if the kingdom does not exist? 25:05 The kingdom life is the relationship 25:07 that we presently have with Christ, 25:09 but entering into the kingdom, 25:11 come ye blessed of my father, inherit the kingdom, 25:14 that's entering into the New Jerusalem, 25:16 that's later on. 25:17 But we're in the kingdom living now 25:19 and the relationship setting, 25:20 we're not waiting for a kingdom, 25:22 we're living in thy kingdom relationship now. 25:24 But one day we will enter into the kingdom. 25:27 Yeah. 25:29 The physical kingdom. Pretty good. 25:30 Well, you know, a lot of these questions 25:31 come out of the dispensational view of things. 25:35 You know, the era of law, era of grace. 25:38 You know, the era of, you know, God's work of grace 25:42 in the New Testament, and then, of course, 25:44 the era of God's kingdom in the future that is set up 25:47 and most actually believes set up on this earth. 25:50 Right, very good point. 25:51 But in fact the Bible says in Revelation 20 very clearly 25:54 that the saints are with Him in heaven. 25:57 That's right. 25:58 And so anyway, we don't wanna believe 26:01 in that too much. 26:02 I have a question that will segue us 26:03 into our topic today. 26:06 And it comes from Mark, and he says that he knows 26:11 if the God had consists of three distinct beings... 26:19 Oh, he doesn't know, he wants to hear our comments on that. 26:22 So we are doing that a bit here in these programs. 26:24 But he says as you might know some who believe 26:26 in two distinct persons with the Holy Spirit 26:29 simply God's spirit and not the third person 26:31 of the Godhood. 26:33 I would like to know what type of human nature 26:35 Jesus had as the Son of Man. 26:37 Okay. 26:39 And so these are things that we're gonna be 26:41 covering today and in the next program. 26:43 I think we're gonna spend most of our time today 26:46 in regard to Jesus as the second person 26:49 of the Godhead and His eternal nature, 26:52 His deity, and even maybe some of His nature 26:56 while He was here on this earth. 26:59 Although we know there is some differences 27:00 of opinion in regard to that as well, right, John? 27:04 The nature of Christ is a very important topic, 27:08 because there are two schools of thought on that, 27:10 one, well, let's not go into it now, 27:12 Yeah, let's... 27:14 We're just going to cap this off 27:15 and then we'll go into the nature of Christ, 27:19 it's a powerful topic, very insightful 27:22 but very necessary to understand 27:23 in the proper context. 27:25 If you have any questions for our future House Calls program, 27:27 you can send those questions 27:29 to this following email address, 27:31 housecalls@3abn.org. 27:33 That's housecalls@3abn.org. 27:36 And we surely will try our best to answer those questions 27:39 when they do come. 27:41 John, let's segue into our program. 27:44 The nature of Christ, the nature of Christ. 27:48 Now, I think you, we talked about Isaiah. 27:53 You want to go to Isaiah 9 now 27:55 or you want to leave that for later? 27:57 All right. 27:58 No, let's go to Isaiah 9 because we are talking about 28:01 the evidence of Christ throughout scripture 28:06 as the second person of the Godhead. 28:08 Okay. 28:09 And Isaiah does speak very clearly in regard to that, 28:13 and in fact I had it here. 28:17 Isaiah 9:6, right? 28:20 Yes, Isaiah 9:6. 28:22 And turn that, turn with us to that particular passage. 28:25 If you have it, you could go ahead 28:27 and read it or I have it. 28:28 Go ahead. 28:30 Isaiah 9:6 very familiar passage, 28:33 "For unto us a child is born, 28:37 unto us a son is given, 28:42 and the government will be upon His shoulders 28:45 and His name will be called Wonderful, 28:49 Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, 28:55 Prince of Peace." 28:56 Wow, make reference to those names, 28:58 John, that Jesus is given. 29:02 Well, we can talk about the different things. 29:04 Wonderful, we know Jesus is wonderful. 29:08 He is our counselor in many respects, 29:11 not only does He counsel with us, 29:13 but He is our advocate as in a legal counsel 29:16 in the courts of heaven. 29:18 He is Mighty God, okay, so He is the mighty God 29:23 and here is the interesting thing, 29:25 it refers to Him as everlasting Father. 29:27 Right. What does that mean? 29:30 That means no beginning, no end. 29:31 I mean, does that mean that He is the Father? 29:34 Or does that mean that He represents the Father? 29:37 Or that the Father is in Him? 29:39 I know that there is a passage in John 17 29:42 which is the prayer of Christ 29:46 showing that Christ has His Father in Him 29:48 and He is in the Father. 29:50 So I think that helps to explain everlasting Father. 29:54 But I like to focus on the everlasting piece first, 29:57 because Jesus spoken of here is referred to as everlasting. 30:04 That's right. 30:05 And everlasting means no beginning, no end. 30:09 That's right. 30:11 He always has been in existence 30:13 and so that is decrypted to me of deity. 30:18 One of the significant, I guess challenges 30:23 probably of the church early on back in even pioneer days, 30:26 and I'm speaking 30:27 of the Seventh-day Adventist Church 30:29 was the deity of Christ. 30:31 How do we explain that? 30:34 I know, Uriah Smith even for a period wrote that 30:37 he was created of the Father 30:39 and then he changed His terminology later 30:41 and used the word begotten 'cause it was the biblical term 30:44 but also somewhere up in arms 30:46 by referring to Christ as a created being. 30:50 But then later on, you have around 30:51 the turn of the century 30:52 that is there from 1800s to 1900s, 30:54 you have this discussion of the deity of Christ. 30:59 And the statement is made by Prescott, 31:02 more significantly he says, you know, 31:04 he has been convinced that you cannot have deity 31:07 without eternity. 31:08 You can't. 31:10 And so when the Bible speaks of Christ 31:12 in the sense of everlasting, 31:14 it's speaking of Him as deity, He is God. 31:17 So He is the Son of God, He is God 31:20 and He is yet the Son of man. 31:21 We will talk about the Son of man part later on. 31:25 But here we find an answer to the Arian controversy, 31:31 which was settled way back with Nicene Creed, 31:34 we have it addressing that. 31:37 But this controversy that said essentially 31:40 that Christ had a beginning that He was created 31:42 by the Father Himself. 31:44 Right. 31:45 And we don't agree with that, nor do we find scripture 31:47 agrees with that. 31:48 You find also in Hebrews 1, 31:49 if you have your Bibles go to Hebrews 1. 31:51 Oh, that's another good one, yeah. 31:52 Very, very important point, Hebrews 1, God, 31:55 and I'm reading verse 1, "God who at various times 31:59 and in different ways spoke in time pass to the Fathers 32:04 by the Prophets has in these last days 32:08 spoken to us by His son 32:13 whom He appointed heir of all things, 32:16 through whom He also made the worlds. 32:19 Who being the brightness of His glory 32:22 and the expressed image of his person 32:25 and appalling all things by the word of His power, 32:30 all things by the word of Christ power. 32:32 When He had by himself purged our sins, 32:35 sat down at the right hand of the majesty on high." 32:40 And going further down, you go down to verse 6, 32:45 notice how verse 6 puts it together beautifully, 32:48 actually verse 8, okay, actually verse 8. 32:52 But to the sun he says, notice, "Your throne, 32:55 O God is forever and ever, a scepter of righteousness 33:02 is the scepter of your kingdom." 33:06 So the scepter of righteousness, you know, 33:08 as the king sits with his scepter, 33:10 you've seen that probably a many examples 33:13 of a royal throne. 33:15 And here you have God's speaking to His son. 33:18 Calling Him God. Referring to Him as God. 33:20 Exactly. Yeah. 33:21 And referring to His throne as forever. 33:23 That's right. 33:25 Your throne is forever and ever. 33:28 So there is no beginning, nor ending to Jesus 33:32 who is in fact called God by His Father. 33:36 And look at verse 10. Okay. 33:39 Not only does it say you, referring to Christ, 33:43 in the beginning laid the foundations of the earth, 33:45 but also the heavens are the work of His hands. 33:50 That's right. So what are the heavens, John? 33:52 Where the Lord exist, that God exist. 33:54 The universe. The universe. 33:56 So what is being spoken of here is Christ having no beginning. 34:02 Right, none. 34:04 He was the creator of all things, 34:07 which it says here very clearly, 34:09 at the beginning in verse 2. 34:12 So the picture that the Bible is painting 34:15 here very clearly by the apostles, 34:18 by those that wrote the gospels is of Jesus 34:22 who is the second person of the Godhead 34:24 yet is fully God, 34:26 yet separate in being from the Father, just in being. 34:31 But yet are referred to as one. 34:33 And this, and we have to use, we have to clarify really well, 34:37 when we say Jesus, in His incarnation, He became, 34:43 He says, "I of My own self can do nothing, 34:46 I do the will of the Father that sent me." 34:49 How did He become in that sense as man and God. 34:54 As the Son of man, the Son of a... 34:56 He became subject to His Father, 35:00 and here is the key reason why, 35:02 Jesus came to exemplify in His life, 35:05 the way that victory can't be attained 35:07 if He used any of His divinity above his humanity, 35:12 then He would have definitely had an advantage over us 35:14 and we could never say that He was tempted, 35:18 and the Bible says, He was tempted in all points 35:19 just as we are, yet without sin. 35:22 Just as we are would not have been a case 35:25 had Jesus infused His divinity when He became the Son of man. 35:30 The other thing that what needs to be pointed out 35:32 very carefully is that until then this human flesh 35:37 that He... He had flesh prior to this. 35:40 And let me tell you how I know that 35:42 because in Genesis 3 35:43 when Adam and Eve fell, the Bible says 35:45 and I heard the voice of the Lord God, 35:49 that's Jesus right there, but it was not called Jesus. 35:52 Lord God, I heard the voice of the Lord God. 35:55 Hebrews 1 said, "God, I heard His voice 35:59 walking in the garden in the cool of the day." 36:02 Now how do we know that, that was Him? 36:04 Let's go to John 1. 36:06 How do we know that, that was Jesus? 36:09 It says, "All things were made by Him 36:12 and without Him nothing was made 36:14 that was made, in Him was life, 36:17 and the life was the light of man. 36:20 And so clearly, this word that was with God 36:23 and the word that is God, the word that became flesh 36:29 and dwelled among us and we beheld as glory, 36:32 that word is the same one who was in the garden 36:36 when Adam and Eve had sinned. 36:39 Why was he the one that was there 36:41 and how do we know that He is the one that was there? 36:44 Well, simply by as the Bible describes His role, 36:48 the Bible describes the role of God, 36:51 the Bible describes the role of Jesus, 36:55 the same as the plan of salvation. 36:59 Let me read it for you very carefully here. 37:03 Well, Isaiah 44: 6, we made reference to that, 37:06 but I want to go ahead and make reference 37:09 to Isaiah 43:3, "Why did Jesus show up?" 37:14 Isaiah 43:3, "I, even I am the Lord 37:18 and beside me there is no savior." 37:21 So what did He come to do? 37:23 He came to save. 37:26 Behold, Luke 19:10, 37:29 "The son of man has come to seek and to save." 37:32 Did He just begin that in the book, 37:35 in the New Testament? 37:36 No. 37:37 He showed up in the Garden of Eden, 37:39 to come and save Adam and Eve from their transgression. 37:42 Right, I would even say that this plan 37:44 had been developed in ages way before that. 37:46 Yes. 37:48 The plan of redemption, the plan of salvation 37:50 for any of His creation that fell into sin 37:56 was already prepared and laid for even before its existence. 38:02 Yeah. 38:04 It's interesting too, you have a bigger picture painted here 38:07 in Hebrews 1 38:09 which pictures Christ is not just 38:10 the creator of this earth but worlds. 38:12 Right. 38:14 And the word there implies inhabited world. 38:17 Right, that are inhabited. 38:19 And so, you know, being that He is the creator, 38:25 He also is the only one that can be the redeemer. 38:31 In fact who knows 38:32 and who has the closet relationship... 38:37 than the redeemer, than the creator himself? 38:41 The one that tends to create something 38:44 has the most investment 38:46 and the most affection toward the thing 38:48 that's created. 38:49 Now even people that create inanimate things. 38:52 That's right. 38:53 You know, building a boat or carving a ship 38:55 or things like that, the one that cares most about that 38:57 is the one that built it. 38:59 Right. 39:00 And what this is saying is that the very one 39:02 that created this world was the one that came in 39:04 to redeem this world and you find Him in the garden, 39:08 first hand, boom, He is there, 39:10 seeking to extend a hand of grace to Adam and Eve 39:13 and to save them. 39:15 Right, I want to read Psalms 90 and then I'm gonna go ahead 39:19 and read in the Book of John. 39:21 Psalms 90:1, "Lord..." 39:24 Once again referring to this, 39:27 referring to Jesus in a very real way, 39:30 "You have been our dwelling place 39:33 in all generations, 39:36 before the mountains were brought forth or ever, 39:40 you form the earth and the world." 39:42 Now who formed it? 39:45 By Him nothing was made that was made, 39:50 all things were made by Him 39:52 and without Him nothing was made, 39:53 so who is being referred to, 39:55 before the mountains were brought forth or ever 39:59 you had formed the earth and the world 40:02 even from everlasting to everlasting, you are God. 40:09 Yeah. Who is that? 40:11 John, it made it very clear, 40:13 "Without Him nothing was made that was made, 40:16 all that was made by that we see was made by Him, 40:21 was made through Him." 40:23 So who is one that formed the earth and the world? 40:27 We know Him in the New Testament as Jesus. 40:31 And so when it says 40:32 from everlasting to everlasting, 40:34 John, how long, how far back is everlasting? 40:38 Forever. Everlasting. 40:40 We often think of eternity as future 40:42 but if there is an eternity past. 40:44 There is an eternity past. 40:46 I didn't understand that until I was, I got into astronomy. 40:50 Astronomy is a fascinating topic. 40:53 Somebody once said, well, I was reading a blog, 40:56 an astronomy blog and I almost has brain freeze 41:01 when I was reading the astronomy blog, 41:02 that means psychological brain freeze 41:05 and they talked about how far away 41:06 this light had to travel. 41:10 And they said that light that we saw or that light 41:17 that constellation or that light 41:20 that came to us that was taken, 41:21 a picture was taken of it, it is so many light years away 41:25 that it had to start traveling. 41:30 It blew me away. 41:32 Thousands of years ago, so that we could see it where, 41:37 where we see it in the picture 41:39 is where it was thousands of years ago, 41:43 but it's not in that direction any longer, 41:45 because the earth has moved. 41:47 I mean, that is in the sense of the rotation. 41:49 So if we look up and he says, the reason why we were able to 41:53 take this picture with our telescope, 41:54 this was the light started traveling, 41:56 and it talked about how fast and how far it traveled 41:58 and I thought, "Huh." 42:01 That's the dog was at moment, your head lean to the side. 42:03 Yeah. 42:04 Jesus, from everlasting to everlasting 42:07 and He made this statement. 42:08 You have a passage, you gonna read? 42:10 Yeah, but it's a shifting gear, so you better finish with it. 42:11 Okay, He made the statement here in John 17:5 42:19 "And now O Father, 42:21 glorify me together with Yourself, 42:24 with the glory which I had with You 42:27 before the world was." 42:30 Before the world was. 42:32 He also says verse 24 of John 17, 42:35 "Father I desire that they also whom you gave me 42:40 may be with me where I am, that they may behold my glory 42:44 which You have given me for You love me 42:47 before the foundation of the world." 42:51 Wow. 42:52 So this glory that Jesus is now reflecting in humanity, 42:56 that's the glory that the Father gave to Him 43:00 as He is in fact on the earth, 43:02 He is reflecting the glory of the Father 43:04 and why do we say reflecting the glory, 43:06 why not say reflect His own glory, 43:08 because now He is in human flesh, 43:10 He became sin for us, 43:13 and sinful human nature 43:16 doesn't have any glory of itself. 43:18 So when Jesus says, the glory you've given to me, 43:23 He's talking about that 43:24 in the sense of His incarnation, 43:26 human flesh revealing the glory of God. 43:29 The other example you would find of that is 43:30 when Moses came down from the mountain 43:33 and received the commandments of God, 43:35 they had to put a cover over his face, 43:38 because the glory of God shown so brilliantly from his face. 43:43 Was it his glory? 43:45 No, it was the glory of God that was seen there. 43:51 What I'd like to do is head over to Colossians 1. 43:55 Oh, beautiful passage. 43:57 Paul, the apostle is writing to Colossae, 44:01 the Christians in Colossae and inserted in Chapter 1 44:06 is what is known by many as the Christ Him. 44:11 And the Christ Him begins in verse 15, 44:15 it's speaking of Christ in His preeminence. 44:19 Some believe that Paul could have used this Him 44:22 that was being sung in the churches in those days 44:25 and put it in his letter. 44:26 Okay. Okay. 44:28 And so very interesting, because I wish 44:32 we had more time to spend on just this Christ Him, 44:34 but I think we need to focus on what it says. 44:36 Okay. 44:37 And so let's start with verse 15, 44:41 and we'll read through verse 18, 44:43 it says in verse 15 44:44 "He is the image of the invisible God, 44:48 the first born over all creation. 44:51 For by Him all things were created 44:54 that are in heaven and that are on earth, 44:56 visible and invisible, whether thrones, 44:58 or dominions, or principalities, or powers, 45:01 all things were created through Him and for Him. 45:05 And He is before all things..." 45:08 That's right. 45:09 Not some things, He's before everything. 45:11 All things. 45:13 "And in Him all things consist. 45:16 And He is the head of the body, the church, 45:18 who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead 45:21 that in all things He may be made..." 45:23 It mean, "He may have the preeminence." 45:25 Right. 45:27 The emphasis here clearly is Christ as the preeminent one. 45:32 That's right. 45:34 And the term firstborn there, 45:37 some have been confused in the past. 45:39 Arians were confused by this term, 45:41 they connected it with the word begotten... 45:44 Right. 45:45 And referred the firstborn as if it was literally 45:47 a firstborn child. 45:49 Like a first birth, right. 45:51 But it's not at all. 45:52 In fact this firstborn refers to first in preeminence, 45:58 first in status, first of a kind. 46:03 That's right. 46:04 And in fact He is the first and only of this kind 46:07 but has now redeemed the earth 46:09 and we look to Him as our savior. 46:14 So He is preeminent, 46:15 He is the firstborn over all creation, 46:18 but He's also, interesting words here 46:19 firstborn from the dead, verse 18. 46:26 And so firstborn is referring there 46:28 to the first one who has, 46:30 now was He the first one to have been raised 46:32 from the dead? 46:34 No. 46:35 No, but He is firstborn of the dead 46:37 because through Him 46:38 and His act of the resurrection following His crucifixion, 46:42 He then He has the right to raise all who follow Him. 46:45 Right. 46:46 So He is preeminent as the firstborn 46:49 over the dead as well, those who have died in Him. 46:54 And so you have Christ here as preeminent, 46:56 He is in a position of authority. 46:59 But He is not greater than His Father, 47:03 He is not less than His Father. 47:06 And when we talk about in the terms of the Godhead 47:09 or the trinity, what we are talking about 47:11 is those who are three co-eternal persons 47:14 who are equal, yet are of one purpose. 47:18 And this is painting Christ in His role 47:20 as Creator and Redeemer. 47:25 So fantastic passage here 47:27 that Paul inserts into his letter 47:30 that I think really paints a powerful picture 47:32 of not only who Christ is, 47:36 but of His position within the Godhead. 47:41 The firstborn is... 47:42 Paul uses language that the Jew would know. 47:47 When the Jew heard the word firstborn, 47:50 we have to keep in mind 47:51 where their mind went instantly. 47:53 Their minds went right back to the sacrificial system. 47:57 I want to give you a piece of this firstborn 48:00 that sometimes we overlook. 48:03 You could not bring any offering to God 48:06 except the first fruits, if it was grain 48:11 or the firstborn if it were an animal. 48:14 And it had to be a clean animal 48:15 without blemish and without spot. 48:18 So when the Bible speaks about the firstborn, 48:21 it's not talking about 48:23 in the sense of preeminence alone 48:27 or in the sense of first birth only, 48:33 in the sense of an animal, but it's referring to the one 48:37 who is expectable in his sacrifice. 48:40 So when John uses the word behold the Lamb of God 48:46 that taketh away the sin of the world. 48:48 The word firstborn and lamb link right together, 48:53 because they knew that in order for the sacrifice, 48:56 in order for their redeemer and the sacrifice 48:59 that He would give to be acceptable, 49:03 he had to be in the preeminent one. 49:06 Firstborn of the dead, firstborn over all creation, 49:10 and firstborn only to be sufficient 49:14 for the sacrifice. 49:15 This is a preeminent position, and thus so it's be, 49:18 that word firstborn is used not in the sense to describe that, 49:21 okay, Jesus is born and then everything else 49:23 is born after Him, 49:25 but Jesus is the sacrificial lamb 49:28 and now His sacrifice can be acceptable, 49:30 'cause you couldn't bring a second born, 49:32 you couldn't bring, so the pre-eminence 49:34 is what's being referred to here, 49:36 not the order of birth. 49:37 Well, and here is the text to establish this, Psalm 89:27. 49:41 Okay. 49:42 Referring to David now, King David, it says, 49:46 "Also I will make Him mine," this is God speaking, 49:49 "My first born." 49:51 Right. 49:52 "The highest of the kings of the earth." 49:55 Was David firstborn in his family? 49:56 No. No. 49:58 Was he the first king? 49:59 No. No. 50:00 So God is talking in regard to firstborn, 50:03 He is speaking of David as preeminent, 50:06 the preeminent king. 50:07 Right, the position I have put him in. 50:08 A position of power and authority as king. 50:11 So the Bible doesn't use 50:14 the word firstborn always in terms 50:16 of the first one coming out of the womb. 50:18 No. 50:19 Or even one coming out of the womb at all. 50:21 That's right. 50:22 But the point I think could be made very clear here is that, 50:27 Christ is firstborn not in that He was a created being. 50:31 That's right. 50:32 But He was firstborn in that He was preeminent in authority 50:35 and status, and by the way He is unique. 50:38 Some people say "Well, you know, 50:40 He came in the likeness of sinful flesh, 50:41 so He is like us. 50:43 So He came to fully prove that we can overcome 50:45 just like He did. 50:47 Yes and no, likeness is not sameness, 50:52 there is a difference. 50:53 Right, very good point. He is not. 50:55 We are not just like Him. 50:57 He is not just like us. No. 50:59 Okay, He came in the likeness of sinful flesh. 51:03 Okay, our likeness but He was not just like us. 51:07 Right. 51:08 He is unique, uniquely our savior, 51:11 the only one who created the world, 51:13 and the only one who's condensated 51:15 to save the world from the position of man. 51:18 Right. 51:19 He is the Son of God, He is the Son of man. 51:22 Right, and He... 51:23 This is the other thing, and this is very delicate topic 51:25 because, when you deal with the nature of Christ, 51:28 it's a topic that will inevitably remind you 51:31 that there is a deep, deep ocean here. 51:33 Yeah, it is. 51:35 This ocean is very, very deep 51:36 and if you don't tread carefully in it, 51:39 you could end up in a shark tank 51:41 if I could use that phrase and do injustice. 51:44 Thus people can overemphasize something to the nth degree 51:47 and come out wrong. 51:49 Yeah, and you could injustice to the divinity of Christ. 51:52 Yeah, yeah. 51:53 But what was mentioned so beautifully here 51:57 as you were talking about the statement, 51:59 make that statement again, 52:00 so my thought will come back to me, 52:02 the preeminence of Christ, the glory of Christ. 52:04 Yeah, just the position, 52:05 He is positioned as savior here, 52:08 He is unique to anyone, He is the only one 52:11 that could be our redeemer. 52:12 Here, okay, here I am. 52:14 Jesus had that He took on the nature, 52:17 our nature but He did not take on our bend to sin. 52:22 That's right. 52:23 See, when you go to... 52:24 That's why it's a likeness not sameness. 52:26 Right, so go to 1 Corinthians 15, 52:29 he did not take on our bend to sin. 52:32 And I'll show you one difference here, 52:36 we're gonna go to 1 Corinthians 15. 52:41 Okay, and we gonna talk about, okay, let's go here. 52:46 Well, it tell you what... 52:48 Here it is. 52:50 And speaking about being raised from the dead... 52:57 we will start with verse 22, and then we gonna scroll down 53:04 and look at the comparisons, verse 22, 53:08 "For as in Adam all die, 53:10 even so in Christ all shall be made alive." 53:13 Now right away that shows the similarity 53:16 but the difference. 53:17 Yes, absolutely. 53:19 And the reason why I say the similarity, John, 53:21 read verse 45. 53:29 "And so it is written: "The first man Adam 53:31 became a living being, 53:33 the last Adam became a life giving spirit." 53:36 Notice same name Adam, Adam. 53:39 But the second Adam is Christ who in Him we live, 53:44 in the first Adam we die, in the second Adam 53:48 which is Christ or the last Adam 53:50 which is Christ, we live. 53:52 Similarly Adam, Adam, were Adam failed Christ, 53:57 the last Adam succeeded. 53:59 If He had the same, and this is huge, 54:06 if He did not overcome that Adam nature 54:10 because He became sin for us. 54:13 Why? 54:15 So He could take upon himself the failing nature 54:19 that Adam imparted to every one of us. 54:22 He became sin for us. 54:25 But did He conquer that? Yes, He did. 54:28 He was tempted in all points just as we are, 54:30 yet without sin, He took on the nature of sin 54:34 but He never sinned, yet without sin. 54:38 In fact, His temptation was greater than ours. 54:41 Far greater. 54:42 At every point He was tempted like we are tempted 54:44 but to a greater extent. 54:46 I mean, we don't have the power, 54:48 we don't have the power to snap our fingers 54:49 and have something happened. 54:51 He could have gone the route of divinity 54:53 and just made something happen but He did not and He resisted, 54:57 and we don't have a power like that to have to resist. 55:02 No. But Christ did that for us. 55:04 And He imparted to Christ, He imparted to the son 55:07 at that moment just exactly what He needed 55:09 and what did he do? 55:10 He stuck to the, it is written, stuck to the, it is written. 55:13 Now I want to emphasis this one more time. 55:14 He became sin for us. 55:16 He became sin for us but He never sinned. 55:21 He took on the nature but He never had the act. 55:24 So when the Bible says that taketh away 55:26 the sin of the world, that's the nature. 55:30 If we confess our sins, that's the actions. 55:34 He had the nature that could have produced the actions 55:37 but He never yielded. 55:40 That's why He said the prince of this world has come 55:42 and He has nothing in me. 55:44 But what did Paul say about what's in Him? 55:47 He said "I know that in me that is in my flesh, 55:50 nothing good dwells." 55:52 See, to will His presence with me but how to perform it, 55:55 I do not find. 55:58 So it is in this unique position of preeminence 56:03 that God sends, the Father sends 56:05 the Son into this world. 56:07 He begots him into the likeness of mankind 56:13 and any discussion with relation to the Godhead 56:18 and the second person being Christ Himself 56:21 in the context of begotten is never regarding origin, 56:26 it's always regarding the manifestation 56:32 although I used the word carefully, 56:34 but He's coming into the world as man 56:38 because He had to be begotten of God into this world 56:42 to be our Savior as well. 56:44 And so that's when you find the word begotten 56:46 used quite often, 56:48 that's the context in which the word begotten is used 56:51 throughout scripture. 56:52 That's right. 56:54 So we don't stumble on the nature of Christ to say, 56:56 "Well, He had advantages over us, 56:59 well, we had advantages over Him." 57:02 Well, some people even believe that 57:05 Jesus did not exist until He was born through Mary 57:10 and He had this temporary existence, 57:13 but I ask people today, where did He come from? 57:15 He even said, "I come from my Father, 57:18 I goeth back to my Father." 57:20 But He went back after He conquered death 57:22 and after He defeated sin. 57:26 Deep things that are tough for us to understand, I mean, 57:29 it's been even a challenge putting some of this together 57:32 and as you can tell me be in this program 57:34 we're using our words even more carefully... 57:35 Yes. 57:37 Than we would in another programs 57:38 but we pray that somehow it has touched your heart 57:41 and drawn you closer to who Christ is today to you. 57:45 Job 11:7, "Can you search out the deep things of God, 57:49 can you find out the limits of the almighty 57:51 and the answer is no." 57:53 Until we see you again, may the Lord bless you 57:55 as you continue studying in His almighty Word. |
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