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00:01 Hello, friends, grab your Bible and a friend,
00:03 and sit back as we explore God's word together
00:06 on this edition of House Calls.
00:26 Welcome to the dueling swords.
00:30 I always think of new words, the dueling swords.
00:33 He's got a sword, I have a sword
00:36 and because it's God's sword,
00:38 it's sharper than any two-edged sword.
00:41 Welcome to the sharpest Bible program
00:43 I believe on the planet.
00:44 If I didn't believe that, we wouldn't be here.
00:46 Good to have you here, John. It's good to be here, John.
00:49 I tell you whenever we take out the sword of the spirit,
00:51 I said to somebody the other day,
00:54 it is not the cue tip of the spirit,
00:56 whenever the sword of the word of the Lord is used,
00:58 it's gonna cut something or somebody.
01:00 That's right.
01:01 And so we are also the most non politically correct program
01:06 that you'll probably ever tune into,
01:07 because we want to tell you what the word of God says.
01:09 So take the time with your family and your friends,
01:12 get your Bible and your pens and spend this time with us
01:15 as we walk through the word of God together.
01:17 As you know, we have questions and comments
01:19 that come from you that we like to often address...
01:21 Good ones.
01:22 And, but we always have prayer before we do anything.
01:25 So bow your heads with us
01:27 so John can lead us before the throne of grace
01:29 through prayer.
01:30 Dear Father in heaven, again we sit before you
01:34 here with our Bibles open, with questions in hand
01:37 with some notes about the program
01:39 but, Lord, we want you to take it over.
01:41 We want this to be about You
01:42 and so we invite Your Spirit to lead our thoughts,
01:46 and our minds, and our hearts to depend upon You
01:51 to allow You to guide us through the scriptures,
01:53 but also to touch the hearts of those listening
01:55 and viewing this program.
01:56 We pray in Jesus name, amen. Amen.
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02:18 and respond to you according to the word of the Lord.
02:23 John, lead us to our first question today.
02:25 What do you have for me?
02:26 It's a straightforward question from Judy,
02:28 she says where are the evil angels
02:30 during the thousand years?
02:32 Okay. Okay.
02:33 So she is speaking of the millennium,
02:35 the thousand-year period that is soon to come.
02:38 If we go to scripture in Revelation 11,
02:42 not all of it, as you know John,
02:43 it's in chronological order.
02:45 But when you get toward the end,
02:47 you'll find little more chronology
02:48 than maybe toward the beginning.
02:50 And what you have in Revelation 18
02:53 is the judgment of Babylon,
02:56 and we find this is a judgment
03:01 against a longstanding foe of evil
03:04 that exists on this earth.
03:05 You have in chapter 19, you have Jesus second coming.
03:10 You have in chapter then 20, chapter 20 you have,
03:14 what happens right after Jesus' second coming,
03:18 and so what we find here is the millennium.
03:21 So, you know, we've all heard, you know,
03:23 premillennial or postmillennial,
03:25 you know, pre-trib, post-trib, all these kind of terminology.
03:28 But if you just follow scripture,
03:29 you'll find that Jesus comes chapter 19, chapter 20,
03:34 the millennium, and then at the end of chapter 20,
03:38 we have Jesus coming again
03:39 at the end of the thousand years
03:40 for the final judgment.
03:42 But the question here,
03:44 where are the evil angels during the thousand years,
03:46 we can answer by reading the beginning of chapter 20.
03:48 All right.
03:49 So I am gonna read from Revelation 20:1
03:52 beginning with verse 1, it says,
03:53 "I saw an angel coming down from heaven,
03:55 having the key to the bottomless pit
03:58 and a great chain in his hand.
04:01 He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old
04:04 who is the devil and Satan
04:05 and bound him for thousand years.
04:08 And he cast him into the bottomless pit,
04:11 and shut him up, and set a seal on him
04:13 so that he should deceive the nations no more
04:15 till the thousand years were finished.
04:18 And after these things
04:19 he will be released for little while."
04:22 So during the thousand years, we have this seal set on Him,
04:27 shutting him up from the deception
04:28 that he has been engaging in against the nation,
04:32 against people on this earth for thousands of years,
04:36 and he is cast into the bottomless pit.
04:40 So the question really is, at least here with Satan,
04:44 and we know as well
04:46 that if the final destruction of all,
04:48 does it come to the end
04:49 that his evil angels are with him, okay.
04:52 So Satan and his angels are within cast
04:54 to the bottomless pit.
04:55 What is this bottomless pit?
04:57 Well, the word there behind it this Abuso so it is the abyss,
05:03 like some translations translate this as the abyss.
05:06 You cast him into the abyss
05:08 and this word abyss is found several times as well
05:12 in the Old Testament.
05:14 Number one, it's found in Genesis 1:2,
05:17 where it says that the earth was without form and void,
05:22 and that word void is, you know, the abyss,
05:25 it's this emptiness.
05:28 There it is described as a bottomless pit,
05:29 I don't know why, the King James translators
05:33 used bottomless pit specifically.
05:35 Sometimes we don't always know how the old language works
05:37 but clearly, it is the same thing being described here.
05:41 But in context of the last days
05:44 and the second coming we have this the same term,
05:48 this term void or bottomless pit
05:50 used in the Book of Jeremiah.
05:53 And so I'm turning to Jeremiah 4
05:56 and we're gonna read there in verse 23,
06:02 so Jeremiah 4, were you gonna say something here, John?
06:05 No, actually that's a good verse.
06:08 Okay.
06:11 All right Jeremiah 4:23, "I beheld the earth,
06:15 and indeed it was without form, and void,
06:20 I beheld the mountains, and indeed they trembled,
06:23 And all the hills moved back and forth.
06:25 I beheld, and indeed there was no man,
06:29 all the birds of the heavens had fled.
06:32 I beheld, and indeed
06:34 the fruitful land was wilderness,
06:36 And all its cities were broken down
06:38 at the presence of the Lord, by His fierce anger."
06:43 And that goes on to describe this desolate land
06:47 and apparently bottomless had that kind of context,
06:50 that meaning of desolate, void, without form.
06:54 So what's being pictured here is Jesus comes,
06:59 He comes together with saints 1 Thessalonians 4,
07:02 He brings them up to meet him in the air,
07:04 he raises those that are, that sleep in Him
07:07 and He takes them back to heaven
07:09 where He has prepared to place for them.
07:11 At that coming though the wicked that are alive,
07:14 they perish at the brightness of His coming.
07:17 And they are essentially strewn across the land,
07:21 no one's there to bury them,
07:23 no one has anything to do with burying them,
07:25 and they wait through that thousand year period
07:27 just in this desolate earth,
07:29 waiting the judgment when Jesus comes back
07:31 with the saints after the thousand years
07:33 to pronounce that final judgment
07:35 before the lake of fire comes out of heaven.
07:37 Now during that period, what Revelation 20 is saying
07:40 is that Satan and his angels are here roaming the earth
07:43 with no one to tempt.
07:45 That's right and, John,
07:47 you know the point I think you well is well made,
07:49 only thing I would add
07:51 are just a couple of scriptures to support.
07:53 You know, when Jesus had,
07:55 when the demons had an encounter with Jesus
07:59 and He cast the demons out of the man to the swine,
08:05 they were terrified
08:06 that they were in the presence of the Lord.
08:08 I've often said that they are no atheists among the demons.
08:13 Even demons believe, you know,
08:15 James says the demons believed and trembled.
08:18 And so you find in Luke 8:31, the demons and the Bible says,
08:23 and they begged Him, that is they beg Jesus
08:25 that He would not command them to go out into the abyss.
08:31 And that is this place of containment,
08:35 and let me just use the word here
08:37 and a place of restriction,
08:41 another good way to bring that out is in 2 Peter 2:4.
08:45 Let me just add some surrounding thoughts to this.
08:50 If the devil had easy access to us
08:54 in the sense to do whatever he wanted,
08:57 then none of us would be alive.
08:59 This word abyss, this place of spirit world,
09:04 a fourth dimension as it were,
09:07 has an additional element to it,
09:09 talks about that, he says,
09:11 "For if God did not spared the angels who sinned
09:15 but cast them down to hell to deliver them
09:19 into chains of darkness to be reserved for judgment."
09:22 The word there hell is from the word tartarus
09:25 or tartarus, the Greek word meaning a spirit world,
09:30 a place where their activity is limited.
09:33 They are on restriction. They are on restriction.
09:35 They can't do anything
09:36 and the emphasis of that is when,
09:38 when there was a conversation between God and Satan,
09:41 and the Lord said, you could touch him,
09:43 but you can't kill him.
09:45 You could lay your hand on him,
09:47 you could take all his possessions
09:48 but you cannot kill him.
09:49 God has restrictions on the devil,
09:52 and I praise the Lord for that.
09:53 He cannot just do what he wants to do.
09:56 But during the thousand years, there is an anticipation,
10:03 a mental anticipation of the angels,
10:06 they know as Bible says in Revelation 12,
10:09 the devil knows he has a short time,
10:11 but when the Lord comes,
10:13 they know that the next time he returns
10:15 at the end of the thousand years,
10:17 it's time for their judgment.
10:18 All right. They're gonna face the music.
10:21 Another one here Matthew 8:29,
10:23 speaking of the demons, they cried out.
10:26 What have we to do with you Jesus,
10:29 You son of God,
10:31 even the demons confess than Jesus is the Son of God.
10:35 You know, what's amazing me about that demons confess
10:38 that Jesus is a Son of God,
10:40 men have a hard time confessing that.
10:42 They said, have you come here to torment us before the time.
10:46 So they know that there is this judgment coming,
10:49 and right now they are in a restrictive setting
10:54 where they can see us and have access to us
10:56 only on limited basis,
10:58 which means they could tempt us,
11:00 they could speak to us.
11:04 One of my favorite writers Ellen White talked about,
11:06 she says, and I'm paraphrasing this
11:09 to give context to the statement
11:10 I'm about to make.
11:11 But have you ever had a thought John,
11:14 where you say, where did that come from.
11:15 Yeah, we're in a mess world. Yeah.
11:17 And what was amazing to me, she says,
11:19 the evil angels will speak in our ear,
11:23 will whisper into our ear,
11:25 thoughts in our own voice
11:30 making us think that is coming from us,
11:31 you say, I wasn't even...
11:33 where did that come from?
11:34 But our response to that, that determines
11:36 whether or not it becomes just the temptation
11:39 or becomes the transgression.
11:41 Or sometimes you're praying
11:43 and these thoughts are entering into your mind,
11:44 and you say, what, I wasn't even thinking about that.
11:47 And so they have access to the sense of tempting us,
11:51 and trying to speak to us
11:54 and trying to create around us a sleepy,
11:56 uncomfortable or comfortable atmosphere
11:59 where I've seen this happened during sermons
12:02 to see how the evil angels work.
12:04 People would be awake for the songs service,
12:07 and their offering and the children story,
12:09 but as soon as the sermon begins,
12:14 and Ellen White explain that, she says,
12:16 these evil angels come
12:18 and they whap their wings around us
12:19 to create a comfort and it returns,
12:22 and it results in a stupor,
12:25 that's the word that she uses a stupor,
12:27 so that they will miss the very thing
12:29 that God intended for them to hear.
12:31 That's why, that's why I intentionally say,
12:34 don't sleep on me, if you see somebody sleeping wake him up,
12:38 because there is something
12:39 that there is this controversy going on
12:41 and a lot of people get pulled into it
12:42 by not understanding how evil angels work.
12:45 I had to experience the same thing directly.
12:47 I mean, there are times where I'm tired
12:49 but I can't see I'm worn out or sleepy,
12:52 but those services going along just fine,
12:55 if I'm in the congregation for that service,
12:57 Pastor gets up to preaching about five, ten minutes
12:59 in a way, I get tired.
13:02 And the devil is pushing hard to get me to shut down my mind,
13:05 so I don't hear the sermon.
13:07 Now knowing what you just said in regard to the battle
13:10 I realize, I see enemy trying to do this.
13:13 So you just, you got to shove it off,
13:14 you got to push it forward and you got to listen it
13:17 even more intently to make sure it doesn't happen.
13:19 And the evidence of that is in Matthew 13,
13:21 it's just the Lord,
13:22 just impressed me to show you the evidence.
13:23 Go to Matthew 13.
13:28 Okay here I am Matthew 13. Okay.
13:34 All right, Matthew 13 and I'm gonna go ahead
13:41 and read starting with verse 19.
13:46 Here is Matthew 13:18,
13:52 therefore hear the parable of the sower,
13:56 verse 19.
13:57 When anyone hears the word of the kingdom
14:00 and does not understand it, then notice what happened.
14:05 The wicked one comes and snatches away,
14:09 what was sown in his heart.
14:12 So are they grappling to understand this?
14:15 What happens?
14:16 Satan is at hand, his evil angels are at hand
14:19 to snatch away what is being sown in their hearts.
14:22 And what happens?
14:25 They become unfruitful,
14:27 they become it just takes no route.
14:30 Just there's no production in their lives
14:32 referencing what the Lord is trying to share with them.
14:36 So there's a great controversy going on
14:39 when the word of God is being proclaimed.
14:42 Unsettle elements but during the thousand years
14:44 and direct answer to the question,
14:46 these evil angels will be just waiting for the judgment
14:48 that will come at the end of the thousand years.
14:50 That's what the Bible says in Revelation 13,
14:52 where the dragon and the beast and the false prophets are.
14:55 You know, Satan will be cast into this lake of burning fire
14:57 with the dragon and the beast and the false prophets are.
15:00 He knows his time is a short time.
15:02 So yeah, thank you for that, John.
15:03 Yeah.
15:05 Quick question here,
15:07 and I think this requires just a very short answer.
15:10 Lenox, Lenox this person is a graphic designer.
15:16 Evidently he says I don't know it's a man or woman
15:19 but Lenox sounds like a man's name.
15:21 He says I wear my hair as twists most of the time,
15:27 what is wrong with that
15:29 that I should be judged by that?
15:31 Within the church, what does that prevent me from doing?
15:34 For instance will that stop me from being baptized?
15:38 Does that stop me from serving the Lord?
15:40 Does that stop me from being saved?
15:43 In short, no. Just in a nutshell, no.
15:47 Now, let me go ahead
15:48 and add some qualification to my answer.
15:54 When the Bible talks about this,
15:55 and I'm gonna read this verse in 1 Timothy 29,
15:59 I don't know, if this is man or not
16:01 but most of the time Lenox is a man's name.
16:06 When the Bible talks about 1 Timothy 29,
16:09 it says "In like manner also
16:11 that the woman adorn themselves in modest apparel
16:15 with priority in moderation,
16:17 not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly array."
16:21 The text here when it says braided hair,
16:23 there was a practice
16:24 that was prevalent in the New Testament church
16:26 and in some pagan societies, it was not just the braiding...
16:29 it was not the braiding of hair that was the issue
16:32 but the intermingling into the hair,
16:34 strands of gold and elements that causes the hair
16:38 to look ostentatious and gaudy.
16:41 It was not hair that was just basically braided.
16:44 You speaking about twisted hair,
16:46 one of the things that I encourage people to do
16:48 that are involved in ministry is that often times
16:52 if we follow so closely
16:57 and I'm gonna use this not being aware
16:59 of what the reason is for the style of your hair,
17:03 but we have to sometimes present the Lord
17:06 that doesn't harmonize with the fashions and styles
17:10 and patterns of the world.
17:12 Let me give you an example.
17:14 A modest apparel, that was the text,
17:17 the context of this text with modest apparel.
17:20 So whenever we are presenting the Lord,
17:22 or working for the Lord, we try to avoid gaudiness,
17:27 we try to avoid a display
17:28 that matches us to closely to the world
17:31 or that will prevent us from communicating
17:34 with the people that may think what,
17:36 kind of it's really weird.
17:38 And I don't know what it looks like,
17:39 I'm just not judging this individual for the idea
17:42 that they wear their hair with twist
17:44 but I have seen that.
17:45 I've seen people that have worn their hair
17:47 with little twist, sometimes,
17:48 and sometimes it could look like a whole corn field,
17:51 I mean really.
17:52 Sometimes it could be distracting
17:54 depending on the size of the twist.
17:55 Sometimes, you know,
17:56 years ago I saw the Little Rascals,
17:58 you may remember those days.
18:00 I'm trying to be kind on here
18:01 but just a thought of the Little Rascals
18:03 made me smile.
18:04 But we want to try to present the Lord as decently
18:07 and in order as we possibly can.
18:09 So sometimes people may consider in their field,
18:12 in their context, in their community
18:14 that could be a distraction for people
18:17 taking one seriously.
18:19 And on the other side too, it can't be an entering wedge
18:23 for communicating to a different people group,
18:24 so I really is what I think he was saying
18:26 is kind of recognize your surroundings.
18:29 And you got to recognize who you're trying to reach.
18:30 Who you're trying to reach,
18:32 that's what Paul did, right, I mean he says...
18:33 He became all things to all men,
18:35 so you have, so the value of ministry
18:36 is not removed at all.
18:38 What I want to point out is recognize your community
18:40 and as I've said before
18:44 know what bait you need to use to catch the fish you aim for.
18:48 In a contemporary setting, a college campus, a university,
18:52 yuppie town or metropolis and urban setting,
18:55 man, you could probably reach them better than people
18:57 they come in all clean shave and in all tucked in.
19:01 You got to know your audience.
19:02 And so one of the things that we tend to,
19:05 try to remind ourselves of this context
19:08 who to whom are we ministering.
19:10 That determines how we present ourselves.
19:13 But generally the question like,
19:15 does it stop me from being baptized or being saved.
19:17 The answer is absolutely not.
19:19 A man look at the outer appearance,
19:21 God look at the heart.
19:23 We are not talking about jewelry
19:24 and earrings and all that,
19:26 that's a different category and different topic altogether,
19:29 but when it comes to your braided hair,
19:32 we should just seek to present ourselves in a way
19:34 that we can reach a larger group of individuals
19:37 or the group of people that we're ministering too,
19:41 and you have to even take that with the greater assault.
19:43 Because sometimes you don't want to become like them
19:46 to reach them.
19:47 Jesus didn't become like the people
19:49 He tried to reach, but the Pharisees,
19:51 that's why the Pharisees were so concerned.
19:53 If He really is a Son of God,
19:55 why is He hanging around
19:57 with publicans and harlots and tax collectors and sinners?
20:00 The group didn't seem to match who Jesus is?
20:04 So be mindful of that and use discretion.
20:07 Who am I trying to reach? What is my message?
20:09 Is my message, this is just I'm gonna look
20:11 and you got to deal with it, that's an issue of pride.
20:14 But if it's a matter of, well,
20:16 this is all I can do with my hair,
20:18 I know someone and I won't mention this name
20:19 but he said he went through all these changes once,
20:23 ones that's on with braids and he had a big afro,
20:25 then he shaved it all off and then he said to me,
20:28 pastor, I'm gonna get some dreadlocks.
20:31 I said, you need to figure out who you are,
20:33 because you're going through all these changes
20:35 to try to establish an identify when in fact
20:37 who the Lord wants us to be is more important
20:40 than who the world wants us to be,
20:42 and those changes are truly impressions
20:45 that are coming from the world.
20:46 Yeah, so true. Yeah.
20:48 This question may not take very long either
20:51 so I think we can fit a third question in here.
20:53 It comes from Cameroon. Oh, Cameroon Brooklyn?
20:57 Yeah, well, no, but some Terrence,
21:01 and he says I want to ask you
21:03 to shed some light
21:05 on the interpretation of the Mark 666
21:09 and that is revealed
21:11 in chapter 13 of Revelation.
21:17 Also I wish to know if those who are saved will spend
21:20 an eternity in heaven or on the new earth
21:23 as mentioned in Revelation 21:1.
21:26 Okay, so kind of two, a dual parter here.
21:29 Maybe some fairly quick answers to this.
21:31 Number one, it's a little bit of a misnomer that people hear
21:36 when they put the word mark and 666 together.
21:39 Okay, the mark and 666 is not the same thing.
21:43 Okay, the mark of the beast is not the number of the man 666.
21:49 Okay, those are two different things,
21:50 so read that passage very carefully
21:52 and you'll find in Revelation 13 toward the end
21:56 that the mark of the beast is the one that's imposed
22:02 or placed upon the forehead and the hands
22:04 of those that are wicked and rebelling against God,
22:08 yet the number of the man
22:10 that's the head of this peace power
22:12 has the number 666, okay.
22:15 So those are...
22:16 that's the first thing that I would clarify
22:18 about the question itself.
22:20 But there are several interpretations
22:21 that people have thrown out there in regard to 666.
22:24 Some have even tried to use the Roman numeral system
22:28 to calculate the number
22:30 and they take the title of this individual
22:33 or that individual.
22:35 You know, we believe that the antichrist power,
22:37 the system of the antichrist is the Roman papacy,
22:41 but so they look at the head of the Roman papacy,
22:43 they say, okay the pope, let's look at his title,
22:46 Vicarius Filii Dei, they take his,
22:49 the title that was part of his mantra
22:51 that was there for a while and they say,
22:52 okay, look at we calculate them,
22:54 the lettering out there, you get to 666.
22:57 Others have brought up the fact well, there's lots of actually,
22:59 there's lots of titles in this world
23:01 that you can calculate out to equal 666.
23:05 I choose to acknowledge that is, that's interesting,
23:09 you know, set that aside
23:11 but probably the best interpretation I find
23:13 is that 666 is short of the perfect triune God,
23:18 in his perfection of number which is 777.
23:22 And so all those 777 that appear in scriptures,
23:25 we know that 7 is a perfect number of God.
23:27 And if God is three in one,
23:29 you can see where 666 fall short of that,
23:32 that could be Satan's way
23:33 of trying to counterfeit the trinity of God
23:37 and he does that throughout.
23:39 You'll find several threes in scriptures.
23:41 You'll find references to the dragon,
23:43 the beast and the false prophet,
23:45 that's one, okay.
23:46 Here is another reference.
23:48 You'll find the beast that ascends out of the sea,
23:53 the beast that ascends out of the earth the wilderness,
23:56 and both of those are in Revelation 13.
23:58 And the beast that ascends from the bottomless pit,
24:01 Revelation 17.
24:02 Three beast ascending,
24:04 they are also part of the false trinity.
24:06 So you see this throughout scripture
24:08 and I believe that probably 666
24:11 is best interpreted by saying
24:13 that its Satan's counterfeit of who God really is
24:16 because not only is he trying to counterfeit
24:19 everything God does but his character,
24:21 everything about him, it would make sense
24:23 that he tries to counterfeit his,
24:27 the Godhead self,
24:28 and so that's what I see in 666.
24:31 In 666, undeniably historically when you look at the papacy
24:34 and you alluded to that, his title surely does
24:38 in the Latin numerals add up to 666,
24:42 Vicarius Filii Dei or Dei
24:44 depending on how people pronounce that.
24:47 But you'll also go to the Phoenician gods
24:50 to the Babylonian gods to the gods of other nations
24:55 and other powers of past history,
24:58 and you'll discover any system that has an substitute for God,
25:05 their name tends to in their culture add up to 666.
25:11 The context of Revelation 13 are our final movements
25:14 Revelation 13 presents the papacy
25:18 and the United States.
25:20 And so you see here,
25:21 they said the one who is involved
25:24 in this coalition is a substitute for God
25:27 'cause 777 is his name,
25:30 but it's a very interesting fact, John,
25:31 I learned this trivia.
25:32 I you add up 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13,
25:39 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27,
25:44 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36,
25:49 if you add all these numbers together,
25:51 they come up to 666, from 1 to 36,
25:55 add them all up and it comes to 666.
25:58 In geometry 36 is a triangular number,
26:03 three sixes and that shows you
26:07 why there is a triune substitution
26:10 for the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit
26:12 is the dragon, the beast and the false prophet.
26:14 So that system would be a system of antichrist,
26:17 so it's not just the papacy.
26:20 If you make up the papacy alone
26:22 and say that's the system of the antichrist,
26:24 then you'll leave out apostate Protestantism
26:27 and you leave out spiritualism.
26:30 But in the full coalition what is being pulled together
26:33 in Revelation 13 and in Revelation 17 and 18
26:37 about Babylon, the whole system of Babylon
26:40 is a coalition of three false powers.
26:42 And at the head of it
26:43 is the ultimate antichrist Satan himself.
26:46 But throughout the history long before Rome
26:48 even came into the picture, there was system of,
26:50 say systems of antichrist way back to Babylon, Egypt.
26:54 All these systems of antichrist
26:56 always have been there were anti God systems.
26:59 We say antichrist because that's the terminology
27:02 used in the New Testament.
27:04 But all these substitutionary systems of God
27:06 have always been in place since the fall of man.
27:10 And antichrist, some people think,
27:12 well, antichrist is against Christ
27:14 but that's not the only meaning of anti.
27:16 Antis can be against but it also was in place of.
27:19 In place of, that's right, the substitutionary system.
27:22 So when you look at the substitutionary work
27:24 of Satan, he's always looking.
27:26 He said in Isaiah 14, I will be like the Most High.
27:30 That's a 666 statement. That's right.
27:33 Who is the Most High?
27:34 The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
27:36 I will be like the Most High.
27:37 And so when you think about that 666,
27:41 try that in a trivial sense.
27:42 Add up the number 1 to 36
27:45 and you'll come to the number 666
27:48 and 36 is in geometry a triangular number.
27:51 See the triangle, that's why in all these occult worlds
27:54 you find the triangle there, 666.
27:58 The sum total of the numbers 1 to 36,
28:01 I thought that was fairly interesting.
28:03 And lastly, you find also that in religion
28:09 it's called the Textus Receptus.
28:12 In the Textus Receptus manuscript
28:14 in the New Testament, the Book of Revelation 13
28:16 cryptically asserts 666 as to be the man's number.
28:22 When you think about that the number of a man.
28:25 Now on what day when you think of the Bible,
28:30 six days the world was created in
28:33 but the seventh day was the Sabbath.
28:35 So if you just go to the sixth day,
28:37 you have the number of man, six is the number of man.
28:40 So what, but also the final meaning of 666
28:42 is falling short of God's glory.
28:46 So the antichrist,
28:48 the substitutionary system of Christ of the devil sorry,
28:52 always falls short of the glory of God.
28:56 That's why right after Revelation 13
28:58 what's the next message in Revelation 14,
29:00 "Fear God and give glory to Him."
29:02 Because this substitutionary system
29:04 always fall short of giving glory to God.
29:07 That's right.
29:08 You know, you also find throughout
29:10 all the Old Testament as well,
29:11 this false system, even in Ezekiel 28,
29:15 you have the introduction, the lamentation is taking up
29:17 for the prince of Tyre
29:19 and then later on the king of Tyre.
29:21 Well, the king of Tyre...
29:24 Theologians have for a long time recognize
29:26 that as Satan himself.
29:28 But the prince of Tyre is set up as his system.
29:31 It's what he uses on earth to deceive the nations.
29:35 And so you'll find that this is a prophecy in Ezekiel 28
29:38 of what will happen at the end of time.
29:40 So you know, he recognizes the Father
29:42 and the relationship with the Son and he says,
29:44 okay, I want to be the Most High
29:46 and I want to have a son and a system
29:49 with which I can work up at church
29:51 and so he is doing that here and throughout scripture,
29:57 this system is against
30:00 and also in place of substitutionary
30:02 as you said, it's there.
30:04 It's clear.
30:06 And let me just point out what I mean by triangular numbers.
30:09 Triangular numbers are numbers
30:11 that when the same number is used three times,
30:14 it comes to the total of that number.
30:15 Let me give you an example, 36 is three times 12,
30:18 15 is three times 5, 21 is three times 7.
30:23 Triangular numbers are very interesting
30:26 in the sense of coming to the number of 666.
30:29 Let's go back to what I said about a moment ago.
30:31 If you add numbers 1 to 36, the total will be 666,
30:35 but you take 36 by itself, that's 12 times 3,
30:39 these triangular numbers.
30:41 Fifteen now, this is interesting.
30:43 Fifteen is a triangular number also, five, five, five.
30:46 Twenty one is a triangular number also,
30:48 seven, seven, seven.
30:49 See, but now if you do 15 square,
30:54 it comes up to 225.
30:56 If you do 21 square it comes up to 441
31:01 and you add those two together, it comes to 666.
31:04 So you find in the numerology and the reason I mentioned this
31:08 is because in the occult world,
31:10 numerology is the way they hide their messages.
31:14 And so when you think of the antichrist,
31:17 let's not only think of Rome.
31:18 I want to end by saying this thought,
31:21 not only think of Rome but think of spiritualism
31:24 and apostate Protestantism,
31:27 always looking for a substitute for that which is divine.
31:31 But thank you for the question.
31:32 See how many doors that opened up.
31:33 Yeah, that was neat, good questions.
31:35 I always try to learn something new
31:37 and we try to convey something new.
31:38 You know, he did ask at the end of the question,
31:41 where we would spend eternity, the saints spend eternity,
31:44 but we're kind of needed a transition
31:47 to our subject here
31:48 but just the quick answer is Revelation 20 and 21
31:53 reveal that during the thousand years,
31:54 the saints are in heaven reigning with Christ,
31:57 then the new Jerusalem comes down,
31:58 sits on earth and they spend eternity
32:00 on the new earth created anew
32:03 after the fire from heaven does its devouring of the earth
32:06 and its elements, including sin so.
32:09 I actually answered that question yesterday,
32:12 and I said remember
32:14 what's the purpose of the thousand years.
32:16 We are there participating in the preparation
32:19 for the executive phase of the judgment.
32:22 And that is the destruction of sin and sinners.
32:26 So we are not there to hang out for ever
32:28 at the end of the thousand years.
32:29 So praise the Lord for that.
32:32 All right, John, lead us into our topic today,
32:35 very interesting one that we've come up with the idea.
32:37 Yeah, it can sound very vague initially
32:39 when we talk about what we are gonna share
32:41 here for the next program or two
32:42 but it's in regard to knowledge.
32:45 Knowledge is kind of king, it's power.
32:48 We've heard knowledge is for a long time
32:51 and it clearly has all those elements to it.
32:55 But the Bible says
32:58 that in the last days,
33:00 it says in the time of the end many shall run to and fro
33:03 and knowledge shall increase.
33:05 So it was the Bible's even very predictive of
33:08 in the last days there is a,
33:11 almost a recognition, a respect,
33:16 a high level of seeking knowledge that happens.
33:20 And we see that in our industries
33:22 that have grown overtime, the industrial age,
33:24 now the technology age.
33:27 I know some statistics
33:29 we talked about this a long time ago,
33:31 I don't remember all the details, John,
33:32 but how things have,
33:34 how quickly they're accelerating in knowledge,
33:36 it's not just like every year or two it doubles.
33:40 It's what do you call it,
33:45 it's accelerating exponentially,
33:46 that's the word I'm looking for,
33:48 and knowledge is growing in time.
33:50 And so you know, it's one thing to say
33:53 that I'm growing in knowledge
33:55 or that I'm getting to know more things.
33:56 It's another thing to say
33:58 that I truly have understanding.
34:00 In other words, I have true knowledge
34:02 and that understanding is something that is Godly,
34:05 that is driven by God
34:07 and that is driven also by the word of God.
34:10 And so I want to,
34:12 I think we had to spend time in this program
34:15 and probably the next,
34:16 talk about what the Bible says in regard to knowledge,
34:19 and also maybe in a practical way
34:21 talk about how some of that knowledge
34:22 is seen in the world that is seen in the world
34:26 is more foolishness than knowledge.
34:28 It's not really true understanding in other things
34:31 'cause I think people need to discern
34:32 that just because you hear it or read it on TV
34:36 it doesn't mean that it's true.
34:38 Just because your pastor is saying this or that,
34:40 it doesn't mean it's accurate.
34:41 Just because you quote a text or two from scripture,
34:43 it doesn't mean that is a truth.
34:45 You know we can skew anything to what we want,
34:47 even the media we know inherently this,
34:50 that the media is biased to the presenters
34:53 or the anchor or the one that is putting together the notes.
34:56 It's biased to the opinion
34:57 in the world view of that individual.
35:00 Okay, it's just the way it is.
35:03 But we forget that when we read and we hear this stuff,
35:06 and so we need to have the filters on
35:08 and I think part of that filtering
35:10 is a true knowledge that comes from the word of God
35:13 and a true biblical world view is to what is around us today
35:16 and what's happening.
35:18 Well, let me start with the text.
35:19 Go ahead.
35:21 In John 17, I want to start with a text that really
35:25 if you were to distill this down,
35:29 this text to me would be, you know, first last and best
35:35 because, and I'm gonna share this
35:38 in the context of another one which comes up in 2 Timothy 3,
35:43 "Ever learning, and never able to come
35:46 to the knowledge of the truth."
35:50 John 17:3 listen to what the Bible says.
35:53 "And this is eternal life, or life eternal,
35:55 that they may know You, the only true God,
35:59 and Jesus Christ whom You have sent."
36:02 So when you really boil it down,
36:05 one of the first pitfalls that men fell into
36:08 is they wanted intellectual development
36:15 rather than spiritual development.
36:18 Intellectual development has its benefits
36:21 but an educated person without Jesus
36:24 is a dangerous person,
36:26 but remember if the downfall of man
36:31 came on the heels of the suggestion
36:35 that Satan made to Eve in the beginning,
36:39 I would suggest that the downfall of men
36:41 in the end will be on the same premise.
36:44 And it's a good place to start, John,
36:45 because the tree that this deception took place at
36:48 was the tree of the knowledge, the knowledge of good and evil.
36:53 There is knowledge that is good
36:55 and there is knowledge that is evil.
36:56 Right, and you can gain knowledge,
36:58 you could be pursuing knowledge but it's not as I said here
37:02 the knowledge about who is Jesus
37:04 or knowing Him.
37:06 And remember, Jesus even made it clear
37:08 that the basis on which He rejects
37:10 those who come without the Holy Spirit,
37:13 He said I never knew you.
37:16 The knowledge of Him leads to His knowledge of us.
37:21 Now, let me just put that correctly,
37:22 it's not like oh, now I know who John Lomacang is.
37:26 No, we desire to know him
37:28 this knowledge that relationship,
37:30 that knowledge where there is contextual
37:33 to the phrase Adam knew Eve and she conceived.
37:37 It's a spiritually intimate relationship.
37:39 I know you, you know me, okay.
37:42 We have a knowledge of each other.
37:43 That is more important
37:45 than the knowledge that Satan suggested to Eve.
37:49 Let's meet on this basis of knowledge.
37:51 Right. And so...
37:53 It's the difference really between knowing God
37:57 and knowing about God.
37:58 Right, knowing him. Okay.
38:01 Knowing God is an intimate thing,
38:03 it's a relational thing but knowing about God
38:09 is just this intellectual reading of the scriptures
38:12 and just kind of finding different truths
38:14 that we put together about who God is
38:17 and that doesn't save, that doesn't,
38:19 that's not relational, that is dry.
38:21 In fact it can be very cold.
38:23 And we often find even in church situations
38:26 where people have a great knowledge of the Bible
38:29 and then quote many scriptures, but they don't have a knowledge
38:31 or intimate knowledge of God Himself.
38:34 In fact, John, I would suggest
38:37 that intimacy of knowledge is the big difference
38:43 between old covenant relationship
38:45 and new covenant relationship.
38:49 And here is why I say that.
38:50 If you look at, Revelation, excuse me Hebrews 8,
38:59 it says here,
39:02 it gives the parameters of the new covenant
39:05 which it says behold I will,
39:09 the days are coming where I will make a new covenant
39:11 with the house of Israel and the house of Judah,
39:12 not according to the covenant
39:14 that I made with their fathers in the day
39:15 when I took them by the hand
39:17 to lead them out of the land of Egypt."
39:19 And it goes down here, and it talks about putting my laws
39:22 in their minds and writing them on their hearts
39:24 and all of a sudden a text
39:25 as it appears almost out of place,
39:28 but it doesn't, it's perfectly placed is verse 11,
39:31 "None of them shall teach his neighbor,
39:34 and none his brother, saying, Know the Lord,
39:38 for they all shall know me,
39:41 from the least of them to the greatest of them."
39:43 In other words you won't have to teach your neighbors
39:45 and your brothers and those about God
39:48 because they will know God intimately
39:50 through the new covenant
39:52 relational experiential maturity
39:57 that grows between them and God
39:59 as they enter into that new covenant relationship with him.
40:02 John, that point is well taken.
40:04 As a matter of fact, I think it's one of the barriers
40:08 to knowing God was accepting the true knowledge of God.
40:13 And Paul when he outlined
40:15 what caused the antediluvian world to disintegrate
40:20 was not that the knowledge of God wasn't there,
40:22 was that they didn't want the knowledge of God.
40:24 Matter of fact, let's look at this Romans 1,
40:26 starting with verse, let's start with verse 18,
40:29 because it walks down
40:32 this tree of the knowledge of good and evil context
40:34 is really developed here.
40:37 There was knowledge, there was knowledge of God,
40:40 but what did they do with it.
40:41 Look at this verse 18,
40:43 "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven
40:45 against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men
40:49 who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,
40:54 because what may be known of God
40:57 is manifest in them for God had shown it to them."
40:59 Stop right here for a moment.
41:01 God has made His knowledge clear to them.
41:03 This isn't the knowledge about God,
41:06 not the intimate knowledge of God,
41:08 which we are talking about, yeah.
41:10 When people say, well, you know, I believe in a God,
41:14 or I believe in.
41:16 People often are suppressing
41:18 what God had already revealed to them.
41:21 It's not an ignorance,
41:22 it's a willing ignorances I don't want this knowledge,
41:25 and look at what it goes on further to say,
41:27 it says for since the creation of the world,
41:29 this is all the way back to the beginning,
41:31 his invisible attributes are clearly seen
41:35 being understood by the things that are made
41:37 even his eternal power and Godhead
41:39 so that they are without excuse
41:41 how could be they without excuse
41:43 except the knowledge is there.
41:45 So the question is,
41:46 how did all this get here and this what amazes me.
41:49 Somebody comes along named Darwin,
41:51 Charles Darwin in the 1800s
41:55 almost 6000 years after creation
41:57 comes up with this theory
41:59 that he himself rejects before his death and people say wow,
42:02 he's got to be smarter than God.
42:04 Let me show you what they did, verse 21,
42:09 because although they knew God,
42:10 they did not glorify Him as God,
42:13 that's why you see in this age
42:15 where knowledge is the focal point of many institutions,
42:19 in this age where the false knowledge of God
42:21 is being proliferated and spread about,
42:27 I'm looking for another intellectual word,
42:29 it's being disseminated.
42:31 This is the age where knowledge is such a focus,
42:33 that men are now glorifying God with the knowledge they have,
42:36 that's why the message of Revelation 14 is important,
42:39 "Fear God and give glory to him."
42:41 So knowledge is not what we should glory in,
42:43 we should glory in knowing God.
42:45 And here is what it goes on further to say, verse 22,
42:49 "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools."
42:52 How did they become fools,
42:54 read verse 28, how did they become fools.
42:56 Are you Romans 1:28?
42:58 Yeah, "And even as they did not like to retain knowledge,
43:01 retain God in their knowledge,
43:03 God gave them over to a debased mind
43:05 to do those things which are not fitting."
43:07 Okay, now get this.
43:08 You could see this today,
43:11 in this same sex marriage arena, it is not that
43:15 the knowledge of what God required is not there,
43:18 it's just I don't want it, I don't want it,
43:21 so now when you look at that,
43:22 when they did not retain God in their knowledge,
43:25 the very result of that was, look at all these things,
43:29 sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness,
43:31 maliciousness, full of envy, the murders, strife, deceit,
43:34 evil mindedness, whisperers, backbiters, haters of God,
43:38 violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things,
43:41 disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy,
43:45 unloving, unforgiven, unmerciful.
43:49 All that happens
43:50 when you choose not to retain God in your knowledge.
43:54 You can't prevent any of that from being an outgrowth.
43:56 Well, this is why I think in Proverbs
43:58 couple of verses here, Proverbs 22:17, it says,
44:02 "Incline your ear, and hear the words of the wise,
44:05 and apply your heart to my knowledge."
44:07 Right.
44:09 In other words you can get all this other knowledge,
44:11 but if you don't apply to my knowledge,
44:13 you are not gonna be wise.
44:16 And then Proverbs 2:6,
44:17 for the Lord gives wisdom from the mouth come knowledge
44:20 and understanding from his mouth,
44:23 comes knowledge and understanding.
44:24 So, you know, I think there is this desire,
44:27 God put within us a desire, John, to have knowledge,
44:30 to pursue knowledge, to know things,
44:33 but like the knowledge of good and evil,
44:35 that's an evil knowledge at its core.
44:37 I'm not saying evil in that,
44:38 the things they think about are all evil,
44:40 it's just that train of knowledge,
44:42 that pursuit of knowledge is not one that glorifies God,
44:45 therefore it glorifies man.
44:48 It's a self-based knowledge,
44:50 whereas God says pursue my knowledge,
44:53 pursue me and when they, you lose,
44:55 as it says in verse 20,
44:57 when you don't retain God in your knowledge,
45:00 then where you go is a dark place,
45:04 to the point where it says, I think it was verse 21,
45:09 it says that he give them up to a debased mind,
45:13 they became futile in their thoughts.
45:16 What is futility mean?
45:18 Futility means it unproductive, right?
45:20 Unproductive, you can't never attain it.
45:22 So how unproductive has this information from Darwin
45:29 that is propagated now into the evolutionary theory, how?
45:34 How unproductive has that become,
45:36 how futile has been that, has that been.
45:38 It's just a waste of time. It's a merry-go-round.
45:42 You end up the same place every time.
45:44 And it's all a theory.
45:45 It's bad theory but it's a waste of time theory.
45:48 You end up nowhere every time.
45:51 How could you make, how could nothing,
45:55 plus nothing equal everything.
45:59 But anyway, Darwin,
46:00 we know that's a futile knowledge knowing God,
46:03 choosing not to retain God in their knowledge.
46:05 But now, the knowledge of the true God is available.
46:08 But what is the Achilles' heel today of the world?
46:14 That Jesus said, and this is the condemnation
46:18 that light has come into the world
46:20 and man love darkness rather than light
46:23 because their deeds are evil.
46:25 So what actually have they done, Hosea 4:6,
46:28 I'm gonna read this here.
46:29 What have they done?
46:31 It's not that the knowledge of God is not available.
46:33 I mean, think about it,
46:34 we have more Bible translations,
46:36 more electronic
46:37 and non-electronic ways of communicating
46:39 and studying the Bible.
46:40 We could find out through one stroke of the key,
46:43 I was blessed to get the Logos software,
46:45 Bible software.
46:47 Through one stroke of the key,
46:49 we can accomplish 40 hours of study,
46:53 all that knowledge,
46:55 but why would all that knowledge is this
46:56 and why would all that knowledge...
46:58 Well, let me rephrase that.
46:59 If that knowledge does not lead us
47:01 to acknowledging the truth,
47:04 then it's of no value, it's ever learning,
47:06 never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
47:09 Hosea 4:6, you have yet, do you want to go there.
47:11 Well, go ahead and turn there. I mean, I'm already there.
47:15 Go ahead and read it. Here it is.
47:17 And Jesus is talking about His own people,
47:19 He is not talking about the world in the sense,
47:20 because the world rejects Christ,
47:23 so we are not expecting them
47:24 to respond to the knowledge of Christ,
47:26 but what is the deficit among the people
47:28 that are claiming to know Jesus.
47:30 Hosea 4:6,
47:31 "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge,
47:37 because you have rejected knowledge."
47:41 See, so what it is
47:42 and this is something that's so widely important.
47:44 We are accountable not just for what we know,
47:48 but we are also accountable for what we could have known.
47:52 We are not accountable only for what we know
47:55 but we are accountable what we could have known.
47:57 When I get to studying with people about the Sabbath,
48:00 the truth about what happens when a person dies,
48:03 all these widely important topics.
48:05 Some of them say,
48:06 I don't want to hear it, I don't want to hear it
48:07 'cause I don't want to be responsible for that.
48:10 And I'm thinking, okay,
48:11 what I actually wanted to tell you
48:13 was that fence is 50,000 volts,
48:16 so let's take all the signs down,
48:17 and you just go ahead and climb that fence
48:19 and see what happens.
48:21 They are walking on the path of self destruction
48:23 because they reject knowledge, they reject knowledge
48:28 and that's what's happening today in the world,
48:29 people reject knowledge and they say my denomination,
48:32 my position, my Sabbath,
48:36 my understanding what happens when a person dies,
48:38 my belief in the rapture, it's all important to me.
48:41 And you this knowledge of things that don't exist
48:44 and it's not so according to God's word
48:46 but because they reject knowledge of the true God
48:50 and His true word and true doctrines,
48:52 they end up in darkness.
48:56 So let's look at couple of these aspects here.
48:59 What's gonna happen in the end time?
49:00 Daniel 12:4,
49:02 what's gonna happen in the time of the end, John?
49:04 The odds will increase. Okay.
49:07 And we are seeing that.
49:09 Definitely a focus on knowledge,
49:10 and I know, we kind of began this whole segment
49:12 with that piece of it.
49:14 We've been talking about the various parts of knowledge,
49:17 but the true knowledge we want
49:18 and I like this is what John 17:17, it says,
49:22 very clearly there unequivocally,
49:24 your word is truth.
49:26 The word of God is our foundation for knowledge.
49:29 That's right.
49:31 Now, we have an experiential knowledge
49:34 in that we receive through spending time with God
49:37 in prayer and in Bible study,
49:40 that we spoke of this relational aspect
49:45 and within that context,
49:47 the relationship we have with Jesus
49:49 specifically as our savior,
49:50 we need to then plug in all the other knowledge
49:53 we can get from here.
49:55 Because without, you know, some people say, well,
49:57 you know what, you know, the people out there,
50:00 the heathen, you know, they reject God,
50:02 you know their knowledge
50:03 is just definitely won't do him any good,
50:05 but I'll tell you there is an element
50:06 that within the church we can have a lot of knowledge
50:09 and information that we have from here,
50:11 but if it's not connected to Jesus,
50:15 we are in just as a bad a shape.
50:17 In fact, some would even say worse shape,
50:19 because we have an opportunity to know God,
50:21 but we didn't know God.
50:23 You know, what's more important than knowledge?
50:26 Wisdom.
50:28 When Solomon prayed,
50:30 he asked the Lord to give him wisdom,
50:33 the disciples did not have a whole lot of knowledge
50:36 but they had an experiential relationship with Jesus
50:39 which made them wiser
50:41 than the one's who were very, very well informed,
50:44 very filled with knowledge.
50:46 Matter of fact here is the, here is the statement,
50:48 I like this is the way that Bible says
50:51 here in Luke 11:52,
50:54 "Woe to you lawyers,
50:57 for you have taken away the key of knowledge.
51:01 You did not enter in yourselves
51:04 and those who are entering in, you hindered."
51:09 The lawyers who continually tested Jesus.
51:14 You know, the lawyers said,
51:15 okay which is the greatest commandment in the law?
51:17 What you gonna impart to me and he blown them away
51:19 by not even mentioning
51:21 one of the single Ten Commandments.
51:22 Love your neighbor...
51:24 Which one is that? Well, that's the first.
51:27 No, the first is, that's not the first.
51:30 It's thou shalt have no other gods before.
51:32 That's not the first, that's not in there at all.
51:34 Love your neighbor as yourself.
51:35 Love the Lord, your God with all your heart.
51:37 So these lawyers and today there are many people
51:41 that are highly intellectually stimulated and equipped
51:46 but when the truth of God's word comes
51:49 they don't want it,
51:50 and they prevent you from obtaining it.
51:52 I've heard this time and time again on the radio, John,
51:54 of people that are fighting against the Sabbath,
51:58 they are telling people don't accept it.
52:00 God is saying remember it, they say forget it.
52:03 They are saying you don't need it,
52:06 it's been done away with.
52:08 They are continually fighting against the knowledge of God.
52:10 And for them, and for them
52:12 Romans 10:2 is the actual condition.
52:15 I was just reading that. Go ahead, read it.
52:17 "For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God,
52:20 but not according to knowledge."
52:22 Okay.
52:24 See this multimillion dollar Christian empires
52:27 that are raking in money at an alarming rate,
52:31 living it up fat.
52:33 They are very zealous.
52:34 They got all these things that are acutely put together
52:38 to as one person said,
52:41 they've turned religion into an enterprise.
52:44 Well, here you go, Colossians 2:23,
52:46 "These things indeed have an appearance of wisdom
52:48 in self-imposed religion, false humility,
52:53 and neglect of the body but are of no value
52:56 against the indulgence of the flesh."
52:58 In other words, they are not trying to teach you.
53:00 They are not helping you with practical Christianity.
53:02 Right.
53:04 And so you know when I think, you know,
53:06 we hear the stories in the Bible
53:07 where this people,
53:09 who was that guy that was following Paul around,
53:10 they wanted his power but he didn't wanted...
53:12 He says, give us of your spirit.
53:14 Yeah.
53:15 He tried to get it, but he got the wrong spirit,
53:18 and the spirits, the spirits, evil spirits whacked him,
53:22 stripped his clothes off
53:23 and sent him into the street naked and screaming.
53:25 So the knowledge is not what we need,
53:27 first of all we need, we need,
53:29 first of all the indwelling Christ.
53:32 When Jesus comes in
53:33 the knowledge is made available to us.
53:37 Not for self exaltation but for self abnegation.
53:41 In other words, putting yourself down
53:43 and exalting Jesus.
53:45 You know, what do we do with those that are like that.
53:47 You know, do we enter debate, do we find a way to argue
53:51 and content for the faith with some dude,
53:53 we stand up and be that street preacher,
53:55 trying to get into the kind of the face of secular society.
53:59 What's interesting that Paul encouraged Timothy
54:02 who, he was mentoring as a leader in the church.
54:07 And it says in 1 Timothy 6:20, Oh, Timothy he says,
54:11 exclamation point.
54:12 In other words, this is an important point.
54:14 "Guard what was committed to your trust,
54:16 avoiding the profane and idle babblings
54:19 and contradictions of what is falsely called knowledge."
54:23 Right.
54:26 People that present themselves as knowledgeable
54:29 that is false knowledge, avoid those confrontations,
54:33 avoid those idle babblings, avoid those things that...
54:38 You know if we chased every rabbit...
54:41 What if somebody, somebody gave us their opinion,
54:45 I just that's all we do as pastors, we can't do that.
54:49 Now, there are certain things
54:50 that I think we need to stand up and defend the faith
54:52 because it is very deceptive
54:53 and I don't want the saints to be deceived.
54:55 But all these little things, sometimes these issues,
54:57 we shouldn't be chasing those down all the time
54:59 because I think one of the best counsels I received
55:01 is the best way to counteract error is to preach truth.
55:06 Right, not to try to disprove,
55:08 not to try to get into the debate.
55:11 What do we do when somebody brings false knowledge to us?
55:14 2 Timothy 2:23,
55:16 "But foolish and unlearned questions avoid,
55:19 knowing that they do gender strifes."
55:22 People...
55:24 I get emails, I get letters,
55:25 people are trying to pull me out of the woodwork,
55:27 they are trying to smoke me out sort of speak to.
55:29 What's your opinion? Could you write me this letter?
55:32 I say, I'm not writing anything down,
55:34 sending to anybody whose sole purpose is to dissect
55:38 and to disarm and to condemn the church.
55:42 People want your own words and they pull portions of it
55:45 and John Lomacang said,
55:47 don't ever get pulled into that,
55:49 don't chase the devils as we just said.
55:51 I like this, I had pulled something together
55:53 is little devotional
55:55 and this one was on a part in regard to knowledge
55:57 and it goes as such.
55:59 It says there is a tendency today to confuse opinions
56:02 with learning and awareness with knowledge.
56:06 And opinion is not the same as knowledge.
56:09 Oh, it isn't.
56:11 Thinking is the process of generating an original idea
56:13 or distinction, it requires energy and attention
56:16 while having an opinion requires neither.
56:19 The attainment of awareness and true knowledge
56:23 and the development of competence in those areas
56:25 are two entirely different processes.
56:27 Okay.
56:30 I think one of the things that we find here today
56:32 with the internet
56:33 and the access to information in internet these days
56:35 is that, you know, we confuse this surface browsing
56:38 and getting some of these awareness of things
56:41 and then we try to push on
56:43 and present our opinion on the topic
56:45 and we have no knowledge
56:46 of the depth of what all is involved
56:48 in some of these topics and some of these things.
56:50 And I think people do that in the area of church stuff do
56:53 and in the doctrine.
56:54 They got this huge thing they've got,
56:56 they make it the big issue
56:57 and they really don't have knowledge,
56:59 they're just expressing an opinion.
57:00 That's why I like Hosea 6 to cap off the program,
57:02 Hosea 6:3.
57:04 "Let us know, let us pursue the knowledge of the Lord.
57:09 His going forth is established as the morning,
57:12 and He will come to us like the rain."
57:15 See, "Like the latter and former rain to the earth."
57:18 If you pursue the knowledge of the Lord,
57:21 you won't have to meander in the maze and mediocrity.
57:23 You'll be able to have a knowledge of Christ
57:25 which in fact is the key to salvation.
57:28 Get to know Him today.
57:30 God bless you until we see you again.


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