House Calls

Millennium, Pt. 1

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

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Participants: John Lomacang (Host), John Stanton

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00:01 Hello friends grab your Bible and a friend,
00:03 and sit back as we explore God's word together on this
00:06 edition of House Calls.
00:23 Hello welcome to another program called House Calls
00:26 if you are tuning in for the first time,
00:28 remember this station, you don't want to forget it
00:30 because this is the place where we really actually
00:33 use the Bible. My name is John Lomacang and
00:35 this is my good friend John Stanton,
00:37 good to have you here today.
00:38 It's great to be here. I tell you. This is live.
00:41 And this is the saddle to be in, the one that we know
00:44 the Lord is directing and guiding, and we want you
00:46 to sit back and enjoy this program,
00:48 its an exciting one, its informative and is based
00:51 solely on the word of God, and before we go any
00:55 further though we always like to begin our program
00:58 with prayer. So, John would you have prayer for us.
01:00 Let's do that. Loving Father its so good
01:02 to be able to open your word here today,
01:06 and to know that you are leading and guiding us,
01:08 and directing your work here on earth,
01:11 and we just pray that you would provide that blessing,
01:14 blessing of the Holy Spirit here in our lives today,
01:17 that you will lead and instruct not only our words,
01:20 but Lord the hearts of all those who are listening,
01:22 who are open to your voice.
01:24 We thank you for the blessing and for the
01:26 promise of Jesus, and all that he is doing in our lives,
01:30 and that he will come very soon one day,
01:32 and we will be able to go home with him.
01:35 In Jesus name we pray, amen.
01:37 Amen. Well thank you friends,
01:39 we like to let you know that if you have any questions
01:43 at all, you can send those questions here to us
01:47 at housecalls@3ABN.org, that's to
01:50 housecalls@3ABN.org. And if you have the ability
01:55 to do that you may want to record this program
01:57 because we never, let me use the phrase loosely,
02:00 we never shoot blanks. Everything that we share
02:02 with you is always filled with the word of God
02:04 and this program is no exception.
02:06 So send those questions if anything comes to your
02:09 mind you can reach us at the information just
02:11 given on the screen. But once again your Bible
02:14 questions do make a significant impact to what
02:17 happens on this program. So, we are gonna begin
02:19 with one of your Bible questions.
02:21 What do we have first John.
02:23 We've got a question here that is coming from
02:26 Cameroon. Yeah, and I don't think we had a question
02:31 at least in a while from Cameroon.
02:33 But it's a good question. It says I am so grateful
02:38 that I can write to you at 3ABN and Jesus
02:41 is blessing my life through your program,
02:45 which is really nice of them to say. My question
02:47 for you is which message of the three angels is being
02:50 preached to the world now.
02:53 Do you know the time period exactly regarding
02:56 the three angels messages? Been reading of
02:59 Revelation and really need to know more about this,
03:01 waiting for your response. Well, why don't we read
03:06 the three angles messages and then let's read
03:10 Revelation 18, the other angel that gives
03:14 great light to that message. Alright.
03:16 Then we can talk a little bit about that.
03:18 So, we are going to Revelation 14.
03:19 14 is where we want to go to. Revelation 14
03:22 and we will start with verse 6. By the way
03:29 Revelation 14 initially introduces the hundred
03:32 and forty four thousand, which are called or
03:35 titled God's servants in Revelation 7, so another
03:39 description there of the hundred and
03:40 forty four thousand. These are God servants,
03:43 who preach the last message to the world
03:46 and we pick them up here in verse 6 of Revelation 14.
03:51 Regarding the message what is the content
03:54 of what they are preaching and so let's begin with
03:56 verse 6, "And I saw another angel flying in midst
04:00 of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach
04:03 to those who dwell on the earth, to every tribe,
04:06 nation, tongue and people. Saying with the loud voice
04:10 fear God and give glory to him for the hour
04:13 of his judgment has come, and worship him who made
04:16 heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.
04:20 And another angel followed saying
04:22 "Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city because
04:25 she has made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath
04:28 of her fornication. Then the third angel followed them
04:31 saying with a loud voice "If anyone worships the
04:34 beast and his image and receives his mark on his
04:37 forehead or on his hand, he, himself shall also drink
04:40 of the wine of wrath of God which is poured out
04:43 full strength into the cup of his indignation.
04:46 He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone
04:48 in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence
04:50 of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment
04:53 ascends forever and ever, and they have no rest
04:56 day or night, who worship the beast and his image,
04:58 and whoever receives the mark of his name.
05:02 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those
05:05 who keep the commandments of God,
05:06 and the faith of Jesus. Okay.
05:10 In there you have the three angels' messages.
05:14 And its essentially what the Seventh Day Adventist
05:15 Church has been preaching now for a hundred
05:19 and sixty years roughly, and so in the context
05:25 of today this message has already been preached
05:28 for that amount of time, and if you want to assign
05:31 some to it you would say the advent movement
05:35 began to swell and grow prior to 1844,
05:40 which is when the message relating to the end
05:42 of time and that date 1844 the twenty three hundred
05:46 year prophecy was coming to light,
05:48 and as the message began to be preached,
05:50 you would find the first angel and the second
05:53 angel swelling up to or transitioning up to the third
05:57 angel which began to be preached in 1844 and on
06:00 pertaining not only to the mark of the beast.
06:03 Some people look at that primarily as the third
06:04 angel's message, but is not the essence of the third
06:06 angel is really found in verse 12 of the patience
06:10 of the saints those who are faithful to God who
06:12 keep his commandments in the faith of Jesus.
06:15 Right. And so message has been preached
06:17 for sometime, and we have preached all three
06:20 that's been continuing on, it's not just the third
06:22 angel's message, but if you want to assign a time
06:23 period to it, those are the time periods you
06:26 would assign. But furthermore we need to go
06:29 little step further because if you look at the context
06:32 of Revelation 14, you find that the three angels
06:35 messages appear right before the harvest
06:38 judgment, the great harvest at the end of the
06:40 world just prior to the close of probation,
06:43 and that harvest is the harvest of souls of a great
06:47 multitude who are all of the earth, all the inhabitants
06:50 of the earth, who received that message
06:51 and in fact if you look at the response of that great
06:56 multitude in Revelation 16, excuse me 15,
06:59 you see that they respond to especially the first
07:04 angel which is almost quoted here from verse 3
07:09 of chapter 15, it says "They sing the song of
07:13 Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb,
07:16 saying, Great and marvelous are your works,
07:18 Lord God Almighty; just and true are your ways,
07:21 thou King of saints. Who shall not fear you, O Lord,
07:26 and glorify your name? For you alone are holy
07:30 for all nations shall come and worship before
07:33 you for your judgments have been manifested."
07:36 So, you know, fearing God, giving glory to him,
07:40 and worshipping him for the hour of his judgment
07:42 has come, they have received that message
07:44 and they have followed it. And then of course
07:46 on the heels of that you have the seven last
07:48 plagues in chapter 16, so 14 really John is a end
07:52 time of proclamation, the context here is last,
07:56 very last days proclamation because it occurs right
07:59 before the harvest judgment, I mean the harvest
08:04 of the souls that are invited for the in gathering,
08:06 yes. But then if we add to that Revelation 18,
08:09 which is the mighty cry, we refer to it as the loud cry,
08:17 it is in the past been referred to the loud cry
08:18 of the third angel, but I'll share quote with you here
08:21 in just a moment, its really the loud cry of all three.
08:24 But if I read that here from let's see verse 1,
08:28 "After these things I saw another angel coming down
08:31 from heaven, having great authority,
08:33 and the earth was illuminated with his glory and he
08:37 cried mightily with a loud voice."
08:39 This is a louder cry that's why we call it a loud cry.
08:43 Saying "Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen,
08:46 and has become a dwelling place of demons,
08:49 a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for
08:52 every unclean and hated bird!" For all the nations
08:55 have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her
08:56 fornication. The kings of the earth have committed
08:58 fornication with her. And the merchants
09:00 of the earth have become rich through the
09:02 abundance of her luxury. And I heard another
09:04 voice from heaven saying, "Come out of her,
09:06 my people, lest you share in her sins,
09:09 and lest you receive of her plagues.
09:12 That's adjusted okay. Yeah and it goes on
09:14 to talk about the judgment of Babylon
09:17 has it actually fallen, but I bring that up because
09:22 you find that Revelation 18 and that last call appears
09:26 also right before the coming of Christ in
09:28 Revelation 19. So, contextually both are in time.
09:32 Right. And in that context you can say
09:35 that Revelation 18 when is that loud cry proclamation
09:39 that it is the messages of the three angels,
09:42 all three of them that are repeated. Okay,
09:45 it's not just the third angel or there isn't just a time
09:49 period assigned to this, and I wanted to share
09:54 this thought with you, here is the quote.
09:59 It says a similar work would be accomplished when
10:03 that other angel represented in Revelation 18
10:05 gives his message, the first, second,
10:08 and third angel's messages will need to
10:10 be repeated. Right.
10:13 So, you know, in that way it lumps all three
10:16 messages into that loud cry message,
10:19 it's not just the loud cry of the third angel only.
10:21 There are all three that may be proclaimed
10:23 to the world at the end of time.
10:24 So even contextually there she sees 14
10:27 as well 18 as a last day proclamation.
10:31 Right, and they are reaching their crescendo,
10:33 if I could add to that because what happens
10:36 is you have messages that are being preached
10:38 that are warning messages laying the foundation,
10:42 but many of us know the first time you put up a sign,
10:45 a new sign on the highway people don't see it,
10:47 so that signs stays up there day after day,
10:50 day after day, and sometimes years down the
10:52 road somebody will say that's a new sign and all
10:54 of a sudden they just see it for the very first
10:56 time. In that context the messages of the first, second,
10:59 and third angel had been preached ever since the
11:02 mid 1800s up until the present.
11:07 But there is a significant application here because
11:09 you will notice that the first couple of things
11:11 I want to point out the first and third angels
11:14 message are proclaimed with a loud voice,
11:16 but when it comes to Babylon is fallen, Revelation
11:19 14 verse 8, it doesn't say with a loud voice
11:21 until you get to Revelation 18 where it says
11:25 the angel cried mightily with a loud voice,
11:28 so Babylon is at that point in its smaller setting.
11:35 I won't use the word infancy because the
11:38 institution of Babylon a false worship or false systems
11:41 against Christ, have been existing through our time,
11:44 but when it comes to a apostate protestantism
11:47 or churches that use a title Christian,
11:50 but are not Christian they are coalescing together,
11:53 they still coming together, they are still growing
11:55 together, and by the time you get to Revelation
11:57 chapter 18, they have all coalesced together.
12:00 Matter of fact if you look at a picture here in
12:02 Revelation 13, just let me just show you this very
12:04 quickly. Revelation chapter 13 and verse 1,
12:09 it says, "I stood on the sand of the sea,
12:13 and saw a beast rising up out of the sea,
12:17 having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns
12:20 ten crowns, and on his heads a blasphemous
12:24 name." By the time we get to Revelation chapter
12:27 17 it shows you that beast again,
12:30 but this time it shows you that it's full of names
12:35 of blasphemy. It now comes to position
12:39 where in Revelation 13 once again in its introductive
12:44 infancy, but then it grows to coalition.
12:47 So one of the reasons why Revelation 18 repeats
12:49 Babylon is fallen is, I like the way that
12:53 Elder Kenneth Cox said Revelation or Babylon
12:58 is already fallen in the eyes of God,
13:01 but later on Babylon is going to fall in the
13:04 eyes of men. Right now that's why the Lord
13:08 then adds with it, he doesn't have this in Revelation 14,
13:10 but he adds this component come out of her my
13:14 people because today regardless of the denomination
13:18 even if they are not preaching complete truth God
13:20 says my people are there, but the other component
13:24 he says I am not reforming the other movements.
13:27 I am not correcting the other movements.
13:29 I'm calling my people out of that because they are part
13:32 of the institution of Babylon. In other words false
13:35 spiritual worship, they are not handling the truth.
13:39 So, before Babylon is destroyed,
13:43 I am gonna call my people out of that,
13:45 and that's what Revelation 18 is all about saying
13:47 come out of her my people. But anything as you
13:51 want to add to that John. Well, it's interesting because
13:54 this is the same message that is given in prophetic
13:59 as a prophetic voice here in Isaiah chapter 21.
14:04 Okay, Isaiah 21 what. In verse 9, it says
14:06 "Look here comes a chariot of men,
14:08 with a pair of horsemen, then he answered and said
14:11 Babylon is fallen, is fallen, and all the carved images
14:15 of the God has been broken to the ground."
14:17 So you know this is something that has been
14:20 prophesized for sometime, but we find then this
14:24 greater input I like what you were saying that,
14:26 you know, the first call is the description
14:27 that it is fallen, but the last call is come out.
14:30 Right. Because it's not only it's fallen,
14:33 it's about to take God's people with it as well,
14:36 so you got to get out now, and that is the last message
14:39 in this great proclamation at the end of time,
14:44 also known as the loud cry.
14:46 Right and it comes to that place because just before I've
14:54 seen pictures of demolitions and after all of the
14:59 explosives are rig, you hear the foremen or somebody
15:02 at the site yells the word all clear.
15:06 They want to make sure that everything is cleared
15:08 before the building comes down.
15:11 Well the call to come out of Babylon is some,
15:15 but all clear proclamation. The Lord wants to make
15:18 sure that the building is clear of all of his saints
15:21 before he brings it down and so I thought about
15:24 it that way when I was sitting here and so it's a
15:27 wonderful message, but the reason why it has
15:30 also a second application which you just pointed
15:32 out a moment ago; the reason why all three
15:35 messages are going to be repeated because it has
15:37 not only, we are not only in the time where
15:39 God is reviewing the life record of his people,
15:42 but when that hour of judgment does come,
15:46 its going to be repeated. This is the hour of judgment
15:50 and this is the hour of God's judgments.
15:54 Also, we will show later on a different program
15:57 how that builds into free vision, but why particular
16:01 hour is mentioned as in a life of Jesus he always said
16:05 my hour had not yet come, but when the hour
16:07 came he didn't see to release himself from the bonds
16:12 of those who arrested him. So, there is an hour
16:14 coming where these messages take on significance not
16:16 just as a church, but to the entire world and they will
16:20 believe because of what's gonna be happening
16:22 in that hour, the God's judgment hour has come.
16:26 Good. Okay, anything else. No.
16:27 Okay, let me go to another one here.
16:31 Well I like all the questions, but I need to lighten
16:35 the moment a little bit here. I got a little e-mail from
16:38 a lady by the name of Claudia, and she probably
16:40 thought we never read this on the air.
16:45 I was very, very disappointed in the fact that
16:47 someone would really waste time to comment
16:51 on your hair, well it's not a salvation issue,
16:56 remember that. We get all kinds of statements
16:59 and comments and I thought this was a light
17:01 hearted one to share for the moment,
17:02 especially from a male listener.
17:06 I do admire you first for your spiritual knowledge,
17:09 secondly for your sharp style and dress, thank you,
17:12 and then she puts in all caps there is absolutely
17:14 nothing wrong with your hair.
17:17 If the commenter had looked closely enough
17:20 he would have seen that you are a mixed person.
17:23 As a matter of fact I thought you are half Indian,
17:27 I wish the commenter would pay more attention
17:30 to the powerful Bible studies, and take a lesson
17:33 from your humble, but sharp dress style,
17:35 that was really nice. I love you all my brothers
17:38 in Christ, Claudia. Thank you so much Claudia
17:41 for clearing that up. We enjoy those comments
17:45 though I have to say that even those are critical
17:47 in nature, we can get a little smile out of it and find it
17:52 kind of amusing. I remember one way back
17:55 when we kind of started this program about
17:56 my glasses. You know why does Pastor Stanton
18:00 have to wear the stylish glasses. You know,
18:04 he shouldn't try to be conforming to the styles
18:06 of this world and I mean to me these are just glasses,
18:10 I like the way they look so I brought them, right,
18:13 but anyway it is fun to get those comments too,
18:16 so don't stop sending those and if you feel
18:18 like your heart is in it.
18:19 It is encouraging that people are watching,
18:21 and they are paying attention to things that sometimes
18:24 are distraction to other people, but let me add
18:27 another note here because there is a person
18:29 that ask the question, that was the comment
18:30 by the way, that was not a question,
18:32 thank you for the comment. But here is the question,
18:34 what do you say is behind the miracles that are
18:37 happening in churches today. You know this is a big
18:40 one, and one of the programs we did,
18:42 we talked about false Christ, and false prophets
18:43 arising and deceiving many. But we find one of the
18:48 key elements to deception, one of the key elements
18:52 is miracles. People are pill oriented in America,
18:58 not a change in life, not a change in direction,
19:02 but give me a pill to overcome whatever my ailment
19:05 maybe, and to a large extent miracles,
19:08 and miracle services had become kind of that
19:10 proverbial pill. You know touch me on my forehead
19:14 and cure me of my heart disease,
19:16 rather than change my way of life,
19:18 from all the things that I eat, and all the things
19:21 that I put in my body, and the way that I abuse
19:23 my God's sanctuary or God's temple. Give me
19:27 a touch on the head and clear my arteries,
19:29 and when you look at that way that's, that is miracles
19:34 not the way that God intent for them to be. And so one
19:37 of the things I must add here is in Revelation 16,
19:40 Revelation 16, verse 14, and since we open the book
19:45 to Revelation today, I must add this part in Revelation,
19:48 it talks about. And I saw three unclean spirits verse 13
19:53 of Revelation chapter 16, "And I saw three
19:56 unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth
20:00 of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast,
20:03 and out of the mouth of the false prophet."
20:06 And notice what it says, for they are the spirits
20:09 of demons performing signs, another word for signs
20:12 there are miracles, performing signs or miracles
20:16 which go out to the kings of the earth and of the
20:18 whole world to gather them to the battle of the
20:21 great day of God almighty. When you are person
20:24 that is drawn in by miracle working you are actually
20:27 setting the stage for the great deception, the great,
20:32 great satanic miracle that's gonna come,
20:35 and harvest the world. So if you ask the question
20:38 what's behind the miracles, if they are based
20:41 on the word of God, and they are not the sole
20:42 focal point, like some evangelists
20:45 setup large stadiums, and this is gonna be our miracle
20:49 service tonight. And you find people that are being
20:52 wheeled in there actually they have ailments
20:54 that are not being healed, and so really be careful
20:58 if the miracles is the foundation because many false
21:01 Christ and false prophets will arise and show great signs
21:04 and wonders in so much that if they were possible
21:09 they would deceive the very elect.
21:11 So don't let miracles to be the foundation
21:12 of your hope, maybe the word of God.
21:15 The other thing too is that if you think about the way
21:17 Satan works, and I'll just give you one example,
21:21 and then I'll give my actual example. Sure.
21:24 The first one is that, you know, people say well
21:25 these spirits and mediums are crystal ball, you know,
21:30 soothsayers, you can go and they will tell you things
21:35 that are really true, and think of this from
21:37 Satan's perspective, this is not too difficult.
21:41 For a medium, who is in contact with him
21:43 and depending upon his voice to give him direction.
21:47 When this person is asking for some information
21:49 about their life, its very easy for Satan who already
21:53 has a host of demons and angels who know
21:57 exactly what's going on in this person's life to feed
22:00 the medium information about that person,
22:03 and then that person says well this is going on your
22:05 life and you have such and such friend
22:06 and they are like amazed,
22:08 but Satan's like this is too easy. Right, it is.
22:11 It's not a difficult thing for Satan to work through
22:15 a person, to create amazement or wonder
22:19 in the world through miracles or these signs.
22:23 But now think of it in terms of sickness and disease
22:26 you know Satan is the one that levies or brings
22:29 upon mankind its sickness, its disease,
22:33 and so when he sees the fit, he sees fit to remove
22:37 that disease from someone and make it appear
22:40 as if they have been healed. So, then people
22:42 follow after this one that he is doing these
22:45 miracles through. Right. He can do that.
22:47 So someone claiming to heal some others with miracle,
22:51 the miracles of healing, you know, powers,
22:54 Satan can easily withdraw the illness or something
22:57 from someone to make it appear as though
22:59 God is doing a miracle, and then in effect he is being
23:02 worshipped because then people are in wonder are
23:05 following after what has just happened,
23:08 and the sign that was just given, so these things
23:11 that we see that seems so miraculous,
23:14 Satan has an easy time using those to deceive.
23:18 Yeah. So, we have to be very, very careful that
23:21 what we are seeing that the signs that we are seeing,
23:24 they were testing them to see whether or not
23:26 they are of God or if the enemy is doing these things,
23:29 and it has more to do with what they say,
23:33 what they testify in their words according
23:37 to the word of God than the miracles they are doing.
23:39 Right. The word is more important than the miracles.
23:42 That's true. This is the key point;
23:44 this is the key thing I want to share.
23:47 Because the religious leaders of the day of Christ
23:50 said to him, show us a miracle, show us a sign,
23:54 and he said to them a wicked and adulterous generation
23:58 seeks after sign. So don't let that to be the foundation
24:01 of your hope. One quick question here John it says
24:05 that my church does not seem to care about how the
24:08 members dress themselves. Just this Sabbath was amazing
24:13 to see how people are dressed. My question is isn't
24:16 part of the pastors' responsibility to address
24:19 that issue. It seems that the world is coming to the
24:22 church imposing its worldly traditions. Well, I could
24:27 understand what they mean by that because whenever
24:31 we talk about standards that's a very loose term
24:36 because it has many, it shoulders, it's like a tray
24:40 that holds up many glasses of water, you have the water
24:44 of dress, you have the water of witnessing,
24:47 you have the water of modesty. So in this case
24:51 I would refer to this as the water of modesty.
24:54 We really do and John you may have heard and I have
25:00 as a marriage counselor and as a pastor.
25:03 Sometimes, I have to deal with members in church
25:05 who have gotten themselves in trouble with the person
25:09 of the opposite sex because of their provocative mindset,
25:15 and let me give example to that or explanation to that.
25:19 There are some individuals that would say,
25:22 its hard for me to come to church because the way that
25:24 women dress, because it takes my mind away from what
25:29 the Lord is trying to reveal to me when I see
25:32 so and so walk past me because of the way that they
25:34 have cloth slightly or slightly clad,
25:37 I am using a word not loosely, and then you go to certain
25:41 parts of the country for example if you go away
25:44 to the Midwest or the North Midwest of the country,
25:47 where its really cold at certain times a year,
25:49 people are gonna be very, very well dressed,
25:51 but if go down to some of the places further South
25:54 along the borders or down way in South Florida,
25:57 where its warm almost all year along and then
26:00 hot at certain times, people tend to dress a lot less.
26:03 So if you are living in one of those areas and sometimes
26:06 this is not always based on the area, but sometimes
26:09 is based on the mindset of the people in that area,
26:11 you have to be really be careful because there are
26:13 two evils that exists one is the way that the man
26:16 looks at a woman. Bible says if a man looks at her
26:19 to lust after her, he has committed adultery
26:20 in his heart already, but secondly a woman has to dress
26:23 in such a way that she has to not activate or even
26:27 advertise or make herself appear to be immodest
26:32 when she comes to the house of God to worship,
26:35 and so that's very delicate issue, because I have seen
26:38 people turned off by that. I have seen people
26:40 offended heavily by that. For example one of the terrible
26:44 ways of approaching the situation like this was one
26:46 of the elders, a group of elders got together,
26:48 not at my church praise the Lord, but there was a
26:51 young lady who just come into the church didn't know
26:54 much about the church, but I guess she was wearing
26:57 the clothing that she was used to wearing.
26:58 And they decided they were gonna go ahead
27:02 and give her a new dress and so these men got together,
27:04 these elders got together purchased a dress,
27:06 unbenounced to the pastor of that church,
27:08 and when this young lady walked into the floor they
27:11 presented her with this dress that they proceeded
27:13 to say we would like you to wear this when you come
27:15 to church because the way you dress is not appropriate.
27:18 Well, it took a long time before that young lady
27:21 came back, they almost lost her. So you have to be
27:24 very delicate about the way you approach
27:26 these topics. However, I'll say it in the way one of my
27:29 favorite preacher said, I won't give his name,
27:31 but he said when you are converted, when you are
27:35 walking with the Lord, the issues of modesty will not
27:39 become an issue in your life any longer because you will
27:43 realize that you are worshipping the Lord and you
27:45 come before him in modest apparel 1 Timothy 2:9.
27:49 Likewise also that the women adorn themselves in
27:53 modest apparel, so don't follow the fashions
27:56 of the world, some of them blows very, very
28:00 short skirt, very, very high arching heels,
28:03 low cut tops and some of the young men that come
28:05 to church and they are standing on the stage
28:07 singing songs, they say its difficult for me,
28:10 and some of these college student men,
28:12 young men in the church, and so young ladies please
28:16 be modest in your approach to worshipping the Lord
28:19 and I believe that you will be blessed by it,
28:22 and there will be no stumbling block before
28:24 the young men that are there
28:26 for the same purpose of worship.
28:28 Yeah and that's really good counsel,
28:31 and there is another site to this as well,
28:34 that I think we also need to whether it's man or woman
28:40 as we consider the issue of dress and modesty,
28:44 that we also do some investigation of our own lives
28:49 because there could also be an issue that this,
28:56 the attraction to someone dress slightly immodest
29:00 is an issue with you as well as the person
29:02 that is being immodest. Right.
29:05 And so I've had this saying, I say over and over
29:08 again, and I use it, in fact if you ask my current
29:12 congregation in standpoint, what is the most frequent
29:15 thing that your pastor says, and he says they would,
29:18 I must probably most of them would say judge yourself
29:22 extend mercy to others, that's the most frequent
29:26 comment that I say because we like to do the exact
29:28 reverse. We like judge others, extend mercy to our self.
29:31 Very good. So, what I am saying is examine yourself
29:34 to see may be if there is some sin in there or
29:37 something that isn't been quite rooted out,
29:39 the Lord needs to deal with you on in that you are
29:42 very attractive or very prone to looking at women
29:45 in certain ways. Right. Because I can tell you
29:48 there are men around that can see a woman
29:51 dress immodestly and not think an issue of it.
29:54 But notice what you just said,
29:56 they see her dress immodestly. Right.
29:58 So that's what we are talking about try not
29:59 to dress immodestly. No, I'm speaking of the
30:01 other side though. Okay. Okay, I am talking about
30:03 we shouldn't dress immodestly if someone has
30:06 dressed immodestly there are men who see that
30:08 immodest dress, and wouldn't think anything
30:10 of it. So, what I am saying here is from both sides
30:12 dress modestly, don't make it a stumbling block
30:16 between you and then the men especially in that
30:20 church, because men are very visually oriented.
30:23 At the same time men see if there is something
30:25 within you that the Lord needs to work on his wealth
30:27 to not be attracted or not be drawn to that because
30:31 come on if we have been in that world,
30:32 if you come out of the world the world is very much sex,
30:35 drugs, and rock n roll, and that's what you're used
30:38 to doing, and so that's why we see dress immodestly,
30:40 but also Lord see if there is any wicked way in me,
30:43 root that out. So, I am not judgmental or cautious
30:46 critical, but I am patience understanding toward
30:48 others as well. You mean dress modestly.
30:51 I mean both. Okay, I mean dress modestly,
30:54 and examine yourself. And you know this is not
30:57 just a women's issue too because we talked about,
30:59 I was over in Australia where some of the people
31:02 said that the young men come to church like they
31:04 are on their own way to a beach, the flip flops,
31:07 and you know the hang loose shirt, you know,
31:10 and shorts like they are on their own way to go serve
31:13 after church. So it' applies to the way that men come
31:17 to church. Some guys they said come to church
31:20 with their shirts unbutton all the way down half way
31:22 just to show their chest, you know,
31:24 because they wanna impress the young ladies.
31:26 So, when you think that the issue of modesty
31:29 is something that just applies to women,
31:31 it applies to everybody across the board.
31:33 We used to have this spring word;
31:35 you wear your Sabbath dress.
31:37 Yeah, it was never an issue in Sabbath dress.
31:39 You know you are looking in your wardrobe this
31:41 is my best out, this is the one I wear to church.
31:43 Right. And now it's like, oh, let's just pick this
31:46 and I think there does need to be more consideration
31:48 as to what we are brining to church.
31:50 And the world has a greater influence today on the church,
31:54 instead of a church having greater influence on the world
31:58 and the extremes of that is in certain parts
32:01 of the world where somebody, I was just talking
32:05 to somebody who just came back from
32:06 Saudi Arabia, they said we often think
32:09 of segregation in the sense of men and women,
32:12 but the major reason why women worship differently
32:16 in a mosque than with the men is because when they
32:19 worship they said they don't want any
32:22 distractions whatsoever. So, they separate themselves
32:25 for the purpose of modesty. So anyway thank you
32:29 so much for the question, but it's time for us to go
32:31 into our topic for today, and by the way if you have
32:34 many more questions you like to send to us,
32:36 you can send them to housecalls@3abn.org,
32:40 that's housecalls@3abn.org and we will try to be
32:44 as faithful as we can. You notice we try to do a
32:46 thorough job on our questions. So if yours have not been
32:50 covered at this program, you may want to resubmit that
32:53 because even though we try our best to make
32:57 our e-mail spam free, well the devil tries to find,
33:01 he gets in sometimes, and we get hundreds of
33:04 e-mails and we got to read through that.
33:07 I say for every now for every twenty e-mails there
33:10 is one question that's being asked.
33:12 Yeah, there is so much garbage gets in,
33:15 I don't know how the devils like a hole in the
33:17 e-mail system, but the garbage gets in there.
33:20 But our topic today we are gonna be talking about
33:22 is the millennium, I remember in 1999 when
33:26 I was doing a series with Doug Batch in New York,
33:28 the millennium of prophecy. One of my greatest
33:31 fears was that word millennium because it's a tongue
33:33 twister. So, I have to welcome the audience by saying
33:36 welcome to the millennium of prophecy.
33:40 So, instead of saying that word in one like millennium,
33:44 I just decided let me put some inflection on it so
33:46 millennium and I was able to make it through,
33:49 it was terrifying though.
33:50 Yeah you can say like milli-annum.
33:55 But in short the word millennium means
33:57 thousand years, and the Bible says quiet a bit
34:00 about the thousand years of Revelation.
34:02 There are three different schools,
34:05 and I just want to stop by listing those schools.
34:08 You have the pre-tribulation premillennist,
34:12 you have the post-tribulation premillennist,
34:16 you have the post-tribulation postmillennist,
34:21 and you have the a millennist,
34:24 try to remember that early in the morning and then
34:27 is another schools here that just are probably
34:31 very minor in their support, but the pre, the post,
34:35 and the a before the millennium,
34:37 during the millennium, after the millennium,
34:40 or before the millennium after the tribulation,
34:44 or before the tribulation before the millennium
34:47 that's pre tribulation pre-millennialism. Right.
34:51 Or post-tribulation pre-millennialism,
34:54 and now that you are completely confused
34:57 we are going to go to Revelation 1 and read about
35:00 the millennium. Well we are going to go to 1
35:02 Thessalonians first Alright. And the reason
35:04 we are gonna do that is because the millennium
35:05 is connected absolutely to the appearance of Christ.
35:09 Okay. And I say that because when you are talking
35:13 about you know pre-millennium,
35:16 post-millennium, pre-tribulation,
35:19 post-tribulation, all stuff basically what you are
35:21 doing is you are putting Christ visible appearing
35:24 on one or the other side of this thousand year event.
35:28 Right. Or one or after, before after the tribulation
35:32 period and so we want to not only talk about
35:35 a place the millennium and the tribulation,
35:38 we want to place the appearance of Christ.
35:41 And so as John reads this, but I wanna set up
35:43 and let you know is we are Seventh Day Adventists
35:47 are post-tribulation premillennists.
35:52 We believe that Jesus is coming after the tribulation,
35:54 and before the thousand years begin.
35:56 That's right. Just so that we can sort that out,
35:59 so you don't have to try to wrack your brain
36:01 which one are they. Go and read it for us
36:03 and tell us what text you are at.
36:05 I am at 1 Thessalonians chapter 4,
36:09 and I am going to be reading 15 onward. Okay.
36:16 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord
36:20 that we who are alive and remain until the coming
36:23 of the Lord, will by no means precede those who
36:26 are at asleep. Okay.
36:27 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven
36:30 with a shout, with the voice of an archangel,
36:32 and with the trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ
36:36 will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain
36:41 shall be caught up together with them in the clouds
36:44 to meet the Lord in the air, and thus we shall always
36:48 be with the Lord. So some things in this verse that
36:51 we really need to pull out here before we get to
36:53 the millennium. And the first thing is that Paul
36:57 is writing to the church in thessaloniki, okay.
37:00 He is writing to the church which are the saints
37:04 and he is telling them with regard to those who
37:08 sleep in Jesus, their loved ones, their friends,
37:11 their family members who have passed away before.
37:14 Right. That they will all have a great reunion
37:17 at Christ visible appearing when he comes with a shout
37:21 with a voice of archangel with the trumpet of God,
37:24 when he comes visibly in clouds of glory with all his
37:27 angels that those who sleep in Jesus along
37:30 with those who are alive at the time of his coming
37:32 in the church will meet the Lord in the air
37:34 and they will then go to be with the Lord.
37:37 Okay, let me add something to that as you go on.
37:39 You will find as you look at that text and we then
37:41 read verse 13 and 14, but in every passage 13,
37:44 14 and 15 you find the word sleep. So for those
37:48 of you who will come from the denomination that don't
37:50 believe in the fact that people are asleep when
37:54 they die, the Bible is reinforcing that over and
37:57 over and over and over again sleep in Jesus,
38:00 those who asleep, don't sorrow as those who have
38:02 no hope. If we believe that concerning those
38:05 as it says in verse 13 concerning those who have
38:08 fallen asleep. In verse 14, God will bring with those
38:12 who sleep in Jesus. In verse 15, those who are alive
38:15 will by no means precede those who are asleep,
38:17 over and over again it shows that death is a sleep
38:21 and in Jesus' own words in John chapter 11,
38:24 he said plainly about Lazarus who was sick and had died.
38:27 He said to his disciples Lazarus is sleeping,
38:29 but I am gonna go and I wake him up. Right.
38:31 And they thought that Lazarus was at home
38:33 getting some rest and recovering, but Jesus said
38:36 plainly Lazarus is dead. So Jesus in his own words
38:39 connected sleep and death together,
38:41 and the reason why he does that as we go on further
38:44 in the program you will discover that the second
38:46 death is not sleep. Right. The first death is because
38:50 everyone is gonna be awakened,
38:52 second death is called death.
38:53 Exactly, the final death. But everyone is sleep
38:57 the wicked and the righteous one, when they die
38:59 they are asleep because there is gonna be a call
39:01 to the resurrection either the first or the second,
39:04 and you will see as we continue to break
39:06 this topic down. And so we are talking about
39:08 in this passage those who sleep in Jesus. Right.
39:11 In fact verse 14, someone get this verse,
39:13 some get his verse very confused. That's right.
39:16 As it says if we believe that Jesus died
39:18 and rose again even so God will bring with him
39:22 those who sleep in Jesus and they scribe that or
39:24 they interpret that as being that when Jesus
39:26 comes he is bringing the saints from heaven
39:28 down with him, but the context doesn't even
39:31 work here because it says that Jesus died and rose
39:35 again in a similar way Jesus will bring with him those
39:39 who sleep in Jesus. Now those who died,
39:42 he will also raise to be with him,
39:45 those who sleep so and as you read on it's talking
39:48 about the resurrection, he is not talking about
39:50 brining the saints who slept from heaven down to earth.
39:54 I believe that too Job in Job 14 talks about
39:57 resting until his change comes. Okay.
40:00 Rest in the grave, he sleeps in the grave until his
40:03 change happens. 1 Corinthians 15, at the
40:06 end of 15 he talks about Paul refers to the change
40:09 is the body, mortal body receiving the incorruptible,
40:13 immortal body at the resurrection,
40:16 so all these points to, all these happens at the
40:19 resurrection which is what we are reading about
40:21 here in 1 Thessalonians 4. Right and so there is no
40:24 immortal person until after the resurrection. Right.
40:30 So you can't even be in heaven until you are immortal
40:35 because mortal man cannot exist in the presence
40:38 of an immortal God. Can mortal man be more just
40:41 in God that's the question that Job ask, and the answer
40:44 was no. Only God has immortality that's the fact,
40:48 so it is not until we are changed, Job made it clear
40:51 I will wait in the grave until my change comes. Right.
40:55 And that's what John is talking about,
40:57 so don't get that verse misconstruing thinking
40:59 that there are those in heaven that are gonna come
41:01 back and then go back, that's not the way the Bible
41:04 talks about that. Yeah, and I will read this verse
41:06 really quickly because I think it also speaks exactly
41:09 that point. Hebrews 11 verses 39 and 40. Okay.
41:14 Says that all those in that chapter and we are talking
41:18 about Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, and Sara, Isaac,
41:22 Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Joshua, you know all the great
41:25 saints of the past. It says about them that in verse 39,
41:29 "All these having obtained a good testimony through
41:32 faith did not receive the promise." That's right.
41:35 They have not gone into the kingdom, where Jesus
41:38 is now preparing a place for us. It says in verse 40,
41:42 "God having provided something better for us,
41:43 that they should not be made perfect apart from us.
41:47 In another words we all get made perfect together. That's
41:50 right. Its all happening at the same time which
41:53 is why, 1 Thessalonians chapter 4 says
41:56 "That when Jesus comes down from heaven with
41:59 a shout, with the voice of an archangel,
42:00 and with the trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ
42:03 are raised first that we will be caught up together
42:07 with them in the air to meet the Lord in the air
42:09 and together we will be with the Lord." Right.
42:14 This is not them going before us event.
42:16 And by the way I am glad you point that out and
42:19 I reiterate that because sometimes hearing it twice
42:21 from different perspectives make it click.
42:24 We shall be caught up together. Right.
42:27 That's the key, we shall be caught up together, why,
42:31 to meet the Lord which means they haven't,
42:34 the living haven't met him, we haven't the dead in
42:37 Christ haven't met him. The sleeping saints.
42:39 The sleeping saints haven't met him; the living saints
42:41 haven't met him. We shall be caught up together
42:44 for what purpose to meet the Lord, where, in the air.
42:48 We are gonna meet him together,
42:50 so there is no meeting that has taken place already
42:51 in heaven. And by the way in Hebrews chapter 11,
42:54 I want you to read verse 35 because it talks about
42:57 there if you just jot that down or turn with us
42:59 Hebrews 11 verse 35 it talks about all the dead.
43:03 Women received their dead raise to life again,
43:06 that was some of the great miracles that apostles
43:08 performed, but others were tortured not accepting
43:11 deliverance, that they might obtain a better what
43:16 resurrection, a better resurrection and so if we
43:20 would begin this program about the millennium John
43:24 started up by pointing out that the millennium one of
43:27 the first events that happen to begin the millennium
43:29 is the second coming of the Lord, the second coming
43:33 of the Lord. And the second event that marks
43:35 the beginning of the thousand years
43:37 is the resurrection. That's right.
43:40 And so what I like to do is go to the book of
43:42 John chapter 5, and unless you want to say before.
43:47 I want to add something really quick to it, okay,
43:48 other thing that marks is the end of the tribulation,
43:51 the end of the time of trouble. True.
43:54 And the reason I say that is because in Matthew 24:29,
43:57 it says immediately after the tribulation of those days
44:01 the sun will be darkened and the moon will
44:03 not give it's light, and the stars will fall from heaven,
44:05 and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
44:07 Then the sign of the son of man will appear in heaven
44:10 and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn
44:12 and then verse 31 and he will send his angels
44:15 with a great sound of a trumpet. That's right.
44:18 And they will gather together the elect,
44:20 at the resurrection and all those who are alive
44:23 from the four winds from one end of heaven
44:25 to the other. That's right.
44:27 This fits very, this is perfectly in harmony
44:32 with each other, that at the end of the tribulation
44:36 the time of trouble, then the resurrection occurs the
44:39 gathering of the live scenes with those who sleep
44:42 in Jesus at the last trumpet of God and they are
44:45 raised in up to meet the Lord in the air,
44:47 and then we are gonna talk about where they go.
44:49 But go first of all to where you are describing
44:51 here I know John chapter.
44:52 John chapter 5 verse 28 and 29, which brings us
44:57 to the picture of the resurrection.
44:59 The resurrection is a glorious event, one of the things
45:03 that many Christian churches have left out of
45:04 the picture and you know what one of the greatest
45:06 evidence is that you are in a place that's confused
45:09 is a funeral. You go to many churches nowadays
45:12 and you list to the funeral. Okay, wait a minute,
45:16 they are in heaven but they are not in heaven,
45:17 they are here, but they are in heaven.
45:19 They are glad that they are watching us at the funeral,
45:22 but one day they are gonna come out of the grave,
45:23 which one is it, it's so confusing and so that's why
45:26 you find they hang on to these Bible verses to be absent
45:30 from the body as to be present with the Lord,
45:32 and they build an entire doctrine around that when it
45:34 doesn't have anything to do with death,
45:36 no where in that passage does it talk about death.
45:40 We won't go into that right now, but notice what the
45:41 Bible says about the two resurrections, okay.
45:45 John chapter 5 verse 28 and 29, it says do not marvel
45:50 at this, in other words don't be surprised looking James
45:53 version here, for the hour is coming,
45:56 in which John tell me what's the next word. All.
46:01 All that are aware. In the graves. Will do what. Hear
46:05 his voice. Hear his voice, notice. Let's look at those
46:07 words all who are in the graves, not in heaven,
46:16 let's look that click because you may be a part of a
46:18 denomination that says momma is in heaven looking
46:21 down on you, don't want to brush your bubble,
46:23 I want you to understand that you and momma
46:25 are going to heaven together, that's Jesus' plan.
46:28 She is not up there looking down on you;
46:30 dad is not up there looking down on you.
46:31 She is resting peacefully. Thank you, rest in peace,
46:36 that's why we always say that, earth to earth,
46:38 ashes to ashes, dust to dust. So this topic John could
46:42 go on forever for thousand years because
46:45 there is so much scriptural evidence as to components
46:47 that we need to touch to make this very, very clear.
46:50 Probably biblically one of the most easy teachings
46:54 to teach, to share from the word of God.
46:58 There is so much on the nature of man in our mortality
47:02 and what happens with us when we die.
47:04 You don't need to be deceived on that, just
47:06 study the word, just study the word in the subject.
47:08 Go ahead let's finish it. Look at verse 29,
47:11 it talks about first verse 28 all who are in the graves
47:14 will hear his voice and verse 29 begins by saying
47:16 and come forth. Now notice the two coming forth.
47:21 Those who have done good to the resurrection of life,
47:26 those who have done evil to the resurrection
47:29 of condemnation and you will find these are the
47:33 beginning and ending points of the one thousand
47:38 years of Revelation. The second coming of Christ,
47:41 and the first resurrection. The third coming of Christ,
47:45 and the second resurrection.
47:47 Who comes to the millennium?
47:48 There you go, let me repeat that again,
47:50 the second coming of Christ, and the first resurrection,
47:53 the third coming of Christ and the second resurrection.
47:59 The second coming of Christ for his saints,
48:04 which are alive and will be resurrected.
48:08 The third coming of Christ with his saints that he has
48:12 taken to heaven at the first resurrection,
48:15 get that we will make that very clear as we go on,
48:18 and I am glad you are recording this,
48:20 so you can rewind that and get back and get it clear.
48:22 In verse 29. Yes. It doesn't give you the timing
48:25 of the two resurrections. It only says there are two.
48:29 Right. So, don't get confuse by that like we are
48:31 putting a doctrine in years to timing,
48:32 the timing will come with future scriptures
48:35 we are going to bring into play. 1 Corinthians.
48:38 This simply is saying in verse 29, that there two
48:40 resurrections that's what we wanted to know,
48:43 one to life and one to condemnation.
48:47 And John you began a moment ago and I would
48:49 like you to go 1 Corinthians 15 and add another
48:51 component to that. John began by going to 1 Thessalonians
48:54 chapter 4 when it says the Lord himself will descend
48:57 from heaven with a shout, with the voice of archangel,
49:00 with the trumpet of God. So now let's look at that trumpet
49:02 again to see what happens at that time that the
49:05 trumpet blows. 1 Corinthians chapter 15,
49:07 and I would like you to begin John, by the way if
49:10 you have any challenges about the resurrection what
49:13 happens when you die the entire chapter of 1
49:15 Corinthians 15 is dedicated to clearing that issue up.
49:19 And we talked about the hundred and forty four
49:21 thousand earlier in our program and if you look at
49:24 Revelation 14, they are described as the first fruits.
49:27 Jesus is also described as the first fruits of those
49:30 who slept, right. And if you know the heading
49:32 on my Bible says here just above verse 20
49:35 order of the resurrection.
49:37 Hey that's exactly mine says it. Yeah.
49:40 Order of the resurrection. And so we will start with 20.
49:43 Well no actually what I like you do is let's go ahead
49:45 and go from verse 51 to 55. We will start with 50.
49:52 Okay, let's do that. It says in 50 "Now this I say,
49:55 brethren, that flesh and blood can what.
49:57 Cannot, Cannot inherit the kingdom of God;
50:01 nor does corruption inherit incorruption.
50:03 This is the key. Okay. Because until you receive
50:08 the immortal body that God is going to give you
50:11 at the resurrection you can't enter into the kingdom.
50:14 Right. It simply it says it very clearly corruption,
50:18 flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God,
50:21 and flesh and blood there is not talking about just
50:25 a physical body. Okay, he is not saying someone might
50:29 conclude well in spirit you enter there,
50:32 but that's not what he is saying.
50:33 No that's not what I was talking about.
50:34 It's basically saying that prior to you receiving the
50:38 body, the new body you can't go there, that's right,
50:41 that's what saying more than in spirit only because
50:43 this isn't about spirit; this is talking about the
50:45 resurrection. Clearly. Verse 51, Behold,
50:48 I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep,
50:52 but we shall all be changed. There you go.
50:54 And link this now again with Job 14. Go back to there.
50:58 Waiting until my change comes.
50:59 And read that. In a moment in a twinkling of an eye
51:04 at the last trumpet for the trumpet will sound
51:07 and the dead will be raised incorruptible and we shall
51:10 be changed. I just saw something John
51:16 at the last trumpet. Yeah. Why the last one because
51:22 there is some prior to that.
51:23 Yeah, there is some prior to that, absolutely.
51:25 Okay, alright, let's go on.
51:28 The dead will be raised incorruptible and we shall
51:30 be changed verse 53 for this corruptible another
51:35 word of saying that is immortal. Right.
51:38 This corruptible must put on incorruption and this mortal
51:41 must put on immortality, so when this corruptible has
51:45 put on incorruption and this mortal has put
51:47 on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the
51:49 saying that is written:
51:50 "Death is swallowed up in victory."
51:52 So and it does mention there mortal and immortality
51:55 to corruptible, he is talking about the flesh that
51:57 has been corrupted. It is sinful flesh that he is
52:01 describing there, and then of course mortal body
52:03 which is only going to be around until it dies,
52:05 and then its sleeping or if it's the second death
52:09 its gone forever. And if you look at this text what
52:12 it combines is we are gonna be changed in the
52:15 spiritual nature and we are gonna be changed
52:17 in the physical nature at the same time,
52:19 you cannot be sinful, that's gonna be changed to the
52:25 righteousness of Christ eternally.
52:28 Matter of fact Revelation 22, verse 11 says in this way.
52:31 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still,
52:33 he remains mortal, but either he is holy let him
52:36 be holy still, he now is made like Jesus righteous,
52:40 either is filthy, let him be filthy still,
52:44 he stays corruptible, but he that is righteous,
52:48 let him be righteous still, so you have holy and righteous
52:50 for those who are change in the likeness of Jesus,
52:53 you have filthy and unjust for those who are not in the
52:59 first resurrection. We will talk about that in a moment
53:01 because what separates these two resurrections
53:03 as we just read in John chapter 5 is one comes
53:07 forth to the resurrection of life, the other one comes
53:10 forth to the resurrection of condemnation
53:12 and you clearly have to understand that they are
53:14 separated by large caver.
53:17 They don't both happen at the same time.
53:19 Yeah in verse 55, 'O Death, where is your sting?
53:23 O Hades, where is your victory." Talking about
53:25 you know death, being the death is swallowed up
53:27 in victory in 54 we read that. You know its not until
53:31 this moment that death is swallowed up for the saints,
53:34 that death has become or has been put down
53:37 for the saints. In another words.
53:40 So this side of the resurrection death still
53:44 reigns which means you cannot enter in life whether
53:48 it would be in the body or spirit,
53:49 you are dead this side of the resurrection.
53:53 I am glad you emphasize that and I want to add
53:56 something to that. A lot of us think that death
53:59 is the knockout punch. Well when the resurrection
54:03 comes the Lord says where is your knockout
54:05 punch now. Death is not the last chapter,
54:08 it is the chapter that allows us all to enter into rest,
54:11 but that rest is going to be interrupted just as Jesus'
54:15 rest was interrupted when his father called him
54:17 from the grave. Now he will do the same thing
54:19 with the voice of archangel call us forth from the grave.
54:22 So clearly death is not the last thing and that's why
54:26 I like what he says in verse 'O Death,
54:28 where is your sting or where is your victory.
54:31 The grave does not have victory over the saints.
54:34 The grave is just a temporary holding place like Job
54:37 says I will wait, if I wait the grave is my house,
54:41 I will make my dwelling in the dust,
54:44 that's where he is gonna go.
54:45 I can hear some saying out there and there
54:47 may be even some teachers, school teachers or
54:51 ministers who are thinking well these guys have
54:54 a confused because you see there is a spirit and then
54:58 there is a body, and they are talking about
55:01 the body, and they are accurate, but the spirit
55:03 does go ahead of the body to heaven.
55:08 We beg to differ because the first light that was ever
55:12 told is continuing to be told to this very day
55:15 which is in the Garden of Eden.
55:17 Satan himself said from the tree to Eve,
55:20 you shall not surely die. In other words,
55:24 God says you are going to die, but you won't
55:27 really die and today many are still teaching that
55:32 when you die your soul goes on and your spirit departs
55:35 from your body and goes on ahead to heaven,
55:38 and the Bible in nowhere says the soul is separate
55:40 from the body or immortal. That's right.
55:43 Its just not even there, it's read into the text
55:46 because people want to put it there, but it is not there.
55:49 Right. This is Greek philosophy that goes back
55:52 to the Greeks. These are philosophy about the
55:54 flesh being the corruptible part and the spirit
55:56 being the good part of man. He has got nail plate in his.
55:59 Yeah and the spirit will be released upon death
56:01 and the good man will be able to dwell with God and that
56:04 is a teaching from the old Greek philosophers,
56:08 it is not a biblical teaching.
56:10 So, when you hear people say they are in a better
56:11 place now, that better place better be the cemetery.
56:17 Yeah. Because they are not in heaven anymore
56:20 than they are not in hell. Now it's amazing we never
56:22 say they are in hell now. What we actually do at
56:26 the funeral is only what God does he is the only
56:28 one that decides where they go,
56:30 but the ministers take that position at the funeral says
56:32 they are in heaven now, are we the judge.
56:34 You can't assign a person to heaven because you are
56:36 not the judge, you can't say they are there now
56:39 because you don't have the authority to determine that.
56:42 Yes. See that's why the judge Jesus himself
56:44 is gonna determine, where our end is when he comes back.
56:46 In other words, you would hear a minister
56:49 at the funeral say well this guy didn't live a very
56:52 good life, he was kind of a grumpy old guy,
56:56 he is in hell right now, burn him up. Right.
56:58 You never hear someone say that. You don't.
57:00 Even though I think some people are thinking it,
57:02 the Bible does not say at all and we have a question
57:05 coming up on this. Bible does not say that hell
57:08 is burning now. No, it doesn't.
57:10 So, anyway that's another topic.
57:12 But as you know at House Calls, we believe
57:14 in the Bible and the Bible only, so continue,
57:17 we will continue this topic on another upcoming program,
57:20 but we thank you for joining us today.
57:22 And once again remember study your words,
57:24 so that when this event comes you will if you die
57:27 at the end of the first resurrection whatever
57:29 the case maybe make your decision today
57:31 to meet the Lord in peace. God bless you.


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