Participants: John Stanton & C. A. Murray
Series Code: HCL
Program Code: HCL100010
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00:01 Hello friends grab your Bible in the front and
00:03 sit back as we explore God's 00:05 word together on this edition of House Calls. 00:23 Well, welcome everyone to another program on 00:25 House Calls. We are so glad that you decided to 00:27 join us today. My name is Pastor John Stanton 00:29 with me in the studio today is pastor C.A Murray. 00:33 It's great to have you here sir. 00:34 Always good to be with you. Yeah. What a blessing it is? 00:36 And you know we have got an exciting, another 00:38 exciting program for you and we just does 00:40 pray that you will be blessed, but before any 00:43 of us are blessed we want to make sure that 00:45 we go to the Lord in prayer so pastor Murray 00:48 maybe could you lead us to the throne of grace. 00:49 Glad to do so. Alright. 00:50 greatest father again we thank you for this 00:53 opportunity to talk about those things 00:55 which pertain to guideline us spiritual life here as we 00:59 prepare for higher citizenship in the world 01:01 to come in. So we ask that you would be the 01:03 sentence of conference of all that we do that we may 01:06 be given the strength to lift up the name of Jesus 01:09 so that those who're watching here and listen 01:12 may know and understand your will for our lives 01:15 and we thank you in Jesus name. Amen! 01:17 Amen! You know I like that prayer because 01:20 what we try to do on this program every time 01:22 is lift the name of Jesus up and his word. 01:25 And to do that we depend upon the Holy Spirit. 01:28 And so that's why every, every program 01:31 from program to program we depend upon prayer 01:34 to get it started and we also depend your question. 01:37 You are very diligent to sending those questions 01:40 and so we appreciate that. 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What evidence is there 02:43 that he that is God made other planets or 02:46 other Universes or the worlds in the Bible? 02:50 Do you think that God would mention men 02:53 from other planets or universe in the Bible? 02:55 So basically he wants to know, he wants an idea 02:58 that we are not here by ourselves that the other 03:01 planets other world. Just a couple of text that 03:04 would sort of jump start our search in the book 03:09 of Job we have indication Job 1 verses 2 and 2 verses 03:17 1 that there is this Gathering of individuals from 03:24 several different worlds. And of course Saints 03:27 came representing planet earth and 03:29 of course God directed Saint's attention to Job, 03:32 but in Hebrews chapter 1, verse 2 we actually get 03:35 something a little stronger and I'm hearing to that 03:38 even as I speak Hebrews chapter 1 and Verse 2, 03:43 you know they say you should never start out 03:45 with brand revival and this is brand revival. 03:49 You know what if people have been getting Bible 03:50 to relately to sold. Yeah, yeah this is great one 03:54 and, but it's got a lot of extra material. 03:56 So before you even get to the chapter there is 04:00 all this research material. So you get to the chapter 04:04 and you are there and there is so much research. 04:06 But, I'm in Hebrews chapter 1, and verse 2, 04:09 here we go, yeah here we go. Well I'll start with 04:15 verse 1 coz it gives little look content. 04:16 God who at various times and in various ways 04:18 spoke times past to the fathers by the Prophets 04:21 has in these last days spoken to us by his son 04:24 of course talking about Jesus whom he have 04:27 appointed air of all things and through 04:29 whom he has made the worlds W-O-R-L-D-S. 04:35 Several texts like this collations comes in 04:38 mind, there are others later in the Bible 04:41 that let us know that they are worlds that 04:43 there is this world and of course this world is 04:45 the object of Heavens energies now. But, there 04:48 are other worlds. We have not contacted 04:51 them and I frankly don't think that we will 04:55 contact them this side of redemption. 04:57 Simply because sin seems to be quarantined here 05:01 when the Bible talks about war and heaven 05:02 in Revelation chapter 12, Satan was cast out to 05:05 this earth so the focus, the locus of the sin 05:09 problem is here. And I don't think God is going 05:12 to allow that problem doesn't say it for say but 05:16 to spread beyond the quarantine of planet earth. 05:18 You know he is dealing with it here. But there are 05:20 other worlds and we not even we get indication 05:25 that are other worlds and other inhabited worlds, 05:28 but for now for this point sin is here. 05:33 God has been pleased to keep it here and to deal 05:35 with here and we'll eradicate it here and 05:38 then I think we will be sort of free to make 05:40 contact with other world, other individuals. 05:43 There are lot of things that sin has hidden. 05:45 From our eyes we cannot see our angels unless 05:48 God choose us to break the veil between the 05:51 spirit world and our world or we got some -- 05:54 with lord interposes to step in but there are 05:59 indeed other world. But, I don't think we'll be contact 06:01 in any time soon because we need to keep 06:03 the infection here. And keep it from spreading. 06:06 You know what I think this a very good it helps to 06:08 provide little more meaning to why there was tree. 06:11 because if you think about it, I mean the lord put a 06:13 tree in the mist of the garden. 06:14 Cleary it was a test. Yes. 06:16 I mean, I can imagine that tree being around forever. 06:19 I mean it was there for a purpose, for a reason and 06:22 Adam and Eve were needing to pass that test of 06:25 loyalty to God, they failed. Yeah. 06:27 And then we find that Satan was limited to this 06:30 earth. He was cast down to the earth. 06:31 Right. Lot of people say why do come here. 06:34 He came here because this is where the sin 06:35 problem was. And this is where the whole 06:38 thing began and where he is restricted too as well. 06:40 So you know I think it brings more meaning to 06:44 I think something Adventists use the term we use over 06:47 and over again the great controversy. 06:48 Yes. This battle between 06:50 good and evil and held this world is the battle 06:55 field of that fight. And so yes the other 06:59 thing to there is another unique kind of an 07:01 interesting parable. That's not so much of 07:04 parable it's actually a story an analogy that 07:06 Jesus uses and it's talking about how the 07:09 shepherd leaves the 99 sheep and goes to find that 07:12 one. And many you know we say well it's nice 07:14 that he would leave 99 saved people. 07:18 His sheep who already following him and going 07:20 to find the one that was lost, but there seems to 07:22 would be implied in that story something a 07:24 little more than just 99 saved people to going 07:28 to find the one. There seems to be 07:31 implied there that there is a bigger the salvation 07:35 process involves Christ death on the cross and 07:37 he came to this earth as the one that was lost. 07:40 Yes, yes we knew that kind of little more cosmic view. 07:44 That you have got all of these unfallen worlds. 07:49 And then you have got this one rebellious out 07:51 of harmony law spinning through space and then 07:54 there is this concentrated effort on that 07:56 one particular world. That's a good way 07:58 to look at it. Yeah. Little bit of broader context. 08:00 Yeah. Thank you very much and thank you for 08:02 the question on that. That's a great question. 08:06 That it gets answer from time to time. 08:07 So we thought you know what ask enough what 08:10 make sure we answer. You now one thing I would 08:12 just add it, you know sometimes it's a little 08:15 Ego test for the think that when God made man 08:17 he just stopped there. You know we tend to 08:20 think well we're the only ones and when we look 08:22 at the vastness of the universe and we are begins 08:24 on stand with Hubble telescope that we are 08:27 talking about a really, really, big universe. 08:29 You know bigger than the human mind can 08:31 even deal with. And to think that in all 08:34 of the millions and literally billions of planets 08:38 and stars that God sort of created planet earth 08:43 25 thousand miles across and just stop 08:45 there and never made any other because he will know 08:48 he made a raise of people that we call angels 08:50 messengers that number in the millions, 08:53 10 thousand times, 10 thousand perhaps billions. 08:57 And when you think of the creative energies of 09:00 God of love surely there are other worlds 09:03 and other created beings and other inhabitants 09:06 and one of the joys I think of redemption and 09:09 salvation will be the spencer of time we get in our 09:11 brother and sisters on other planets. Yeah. 09:14 Amen. That's an exciting thing to know 09:17 about the future what; what's in store for us. 09:19 You know you mentioned Job chapter 1 in that we 09:23 didn't go to that verse, but this question 09:25 touches on that. Because this question 09:28 that I have it comes from looks like they 09:32 didn't sign your name. But, anyway it, its 09:36 pertains to what we're talking about there. 09:38 In that it says if, if in Genesis and Job the 09:44 sons of God are men who fear God and love 09:48 and follow his commandments where is your proof that 09:51 this title was given to man as airs before Jesus 09:55 fulfilled the prophecy which is given to man who 09:58 love Jesus and follow him and keep his commandments. 10:01 Call the sense of God in the New Testament. 10:03 So how would you what proof do you have that 10:06 determine the Old Testament especially what he is 10:09 saying or she is saying applies to man or men and not 10:14 angels or angelic beings. Well there are several things. 10:18 The first thing I would say though is, you know in 10:20 every court of law a lawyer will tell you one of the 10:22 first things you do is not let someone force 10:25 you to prove something. When the burden of 10:27 proof is on them. So the burden of proof 10:31 is not on me to share where that argument or 10:36 that validity is found in God's word. 10:38 The burden of proof is more upon those who 10:42 say it's not that it pertains to angels to find in fact 10:46 where they get that from. And there are several 10:50 reasons I say that, number one a couple of 10:53 scriptures Job 1 which we just mentioned, 10:56 another one is Genesis chapter 6 these two will 11:00 touch on here for just a minute, but these seem 11:03 to be describing and they even mention it 11:06 specifically in Genesis at least describing men 11:11 the sons of God being mankind not angelic beings at all. 11:15 You know I went right to Genesis 6. You know 11:18 when you look at Genesis 6:1 and it came to pass, 11:21 when men began to multiplying the face of the earth, 11:24 and daughters who born to them, so we're 11:25 talking about men conceptually we're dealing 11:28 with human being that the sons of God saw the 11:31 daughters of men that they were beautiful; 11:33 and they took wives for themselves of all who 11:36 they chose. There is no justification to 11:38 insert angels there. No. Your context is men. 11:42 So to go to angels is a total leap of faith that 11:45 not justified by the text. Right. We are talking about 11:50 men multiplying on the earth. Sons of God are 11:53 particular class of men who follow the lord. 11:57 Who have dedicated themselves to the lord? 11:59 To insert angels there, there is no reason 12:01 rational makes no sense it's just it comes out 12:05 of really, out of clear blue sky. 12:07 Yeah. Because it's just not 12:08 there and it's not justified by the text and I think 12:10 your point is important Job. Because a person makes 12:13 an assertion doesn't mean it's a just assertion. 12:16 So the burden of proof is not on you because 12:18 it's not Biblical. It doesn't follow 12:20 a Biblical logic. Yeah. Yeah. 12:22 You know the other thing to that as well I like the 12:24 faith fact that you brought up context here. 12:26 Because if we go back a little bit, you have 12:29 Cain killing Abel. And then you have Cain and his 12:33 descendants mentioned. And then you have Seth 12:36 the one that we placed Abel who was son of 12:39 God and his descendants. So you have a cleared 12:42 distinction between those who were godly and 12:45 those were ungodly. Precisely. Then you 12:47 get to chapter 6 and the writer which we know 12:50 is Moses. Then take those two lineages and talks 12:54 about them in fuller context in a great 12:56 controversy context and it says there were daughters 12:59 of men who already on godly and they were the 13:01 sons of God who followed God, the lineage of Seth. 13:05 And there you have them matching 13:07 up against each other. And I think what throws 13:10 people off in that passage is where it talks about 13:14 giants. Yeah. I said well how could they 13:16 have produce giants if they weren't something 13:20 more then men. We were not giants, 13:23 you know we forget that Moses here is writing 13:27 this of thousands of years before. 13:29 And men were much bigger. Back then, then they 13:32 were in Moses days so to him as he is writing 13:35 this he is saying there were giants roaming on 13:38 the earth in those days. He was stating a fact. 13:40 Yeah, yeah bigger, greater intellect, lived quite a 13:44 bit longer 10 times the length of Moses. 13:47 You know so I think when they are dealing 13:51 with the Bible one of the things that keeps your 13:53 feet on the ground is always asking the question what 13:58 is the context for this statement. 14:00 Because you can just pull a statement out off 14:03 the middle of no where and really get lost. 14:06 If you don't have your barrens as far as context is 14:08 concerned you always have to ask your self context, 14:11 context, context, context, and once you establish it, 14:14 stay with it until the Bible says it's time to change. 14:16 That's right. Yeah. Rather than just 14:18 sort of changing on your own. 14:19 And once you establish that context as we talked 14:21 about here with Genesis 6 then you can move to Job 1. 14:26 And when it talks about the sons of God came to 14:28 present themselves you get a full understanding 14:32 of why Jesus or why God said in there to 14:36 Satan's appearance what are you doing here. 14:40 Here's why not only is it because Satan is 14:43 claiming to be the ruler of the earth. 14:46 Because here the sons of God if they are 14:48 created beings, leaders of the respective worlds 14:53 Satan is stepping in to say I'm the leader of the earth. 14:55 I mean we understand that point, but he is also 14:58 saying what you doing here because he 15:00 says you are not human. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. 15:04 See there is two meanings here you are not human 15:07 you are an angel who says you have any authority 15:09 on the earth as well. Because I put Adam in 15:12 authority and I have already promised to 15:14 save and redeem Adam and restore him back again 15:17 to his rightful place. Yeah. 15:19 And so anyway in that context clearly there is more 15:24 meaning now in Job 1 understanding that the 15:27 sons of God pertain to. Yeah, human being. 15:30 Actual human being or created being with the 15:32 ability to procreate. Here's another hurdle 15:34 you have. Give me a burden, give me the 15:36 proof in the Bible where angels where ever discussed 15:39 or even eluded to with being given the 15:42 ability to procreate. Its not there. 15:45 Its not there. No. They are to serve God 15:48 and in fact there is a reference in the 15:50 New Testimony about in the new earth we will 15:53 be as angels reference more to not procreating 15:57 continuing to procreate so there is actually 15:59 evidence there that angels do not have. 16:01 Yeah. Ability to procreate. 16:02 Yeah, yeah. So to read into what did they 16:04 do we are going far beyond any legal means or 16:07 word that provides that. Plus plus there is no 16:10 Biblical evidence that even if they could 16:12 procreate angel to angel that there is any 16:15 sort of cross breeding. It puts me angels and 16:18 humans is just, there is just no Biblical evidence 16:21 for that there is no race of people that came out of 16:24 that, there is no you just have no foundation for 16:28 that kind of logic it's just not in the Bible. 16:32 Just a side note its not; I mean its just my opinion. 16:37 If the battle between good and evil that takes place 16:42 beyond us is a battle that is serious as we 16:44 know what it is if the angels could procreate which 16:47 mean they'll be male and female what would Satan 16:50 be doing to try and increase his army? 16:53 Yeah he will be procreating like crazy expanding 16:55 his army no evidence of that either so anyway 16:59 No not outside of Hollywood There you go you got to go 17:02 some place is they don't really know any better to 17:07 to find that going to abel this You have any other 17:08 question. there? Yeah this one is come from Irene there 17:15 is number of names here, but its asking for an 17:19 explanation of 1 Samuel chapter 2, verse 25. 17:21 1 Samuel 2:25 and I have found that and part of 17:30 this is prophets against Eli's household 17:33 you know Eli high priest father of Hophni and Phineas 17:37 and trouble they were getting to in the temple 17:41 verse 25 If one man sins against another, God would 17:45 judge him, but if a man sins against God, who 17:49 will intercede for him? Nevertheless they did 17:52 not hear the voice of their father because Lord 17:54 decide to kill them. Now you've got a problem 17:57 you've got two men who are priests who are 18:00 really doing evil in the temple their dad is 18:04 high priest and is aware of his sons on toward activity. 18:10 But, for whatever reason is doing nothing to correct. 18:13 You know they are really doing some evil 18:15 stuff in the presence of God and of course we found 18:18 that later on God has to take measure to sort 18:21 cut that off but God in his speaking about 18:26 the incidents says basically if I sin against you the 18:30 Lord can judge or even a third gordly party can 18:33 come and sort of into see but when a man sins 18:37 against a God what human being can step into that. 18:41 one my blood can't even save me suddenly can't save you. 18:48 You know it has to be the blood of Christ so 18:50 when a man sins against the Lord then I can't 18:54 really plea his case because almost sinful person 18:56 jsut like you. God has to do with that. 19:00 Yeah. What man can do that cannot 19:02 and of course when you got these two boys were 19:04 sinning for God sinning against God in the face 19:07 of God in the temple God has going todo with that 19:09 because they are sinning against God and we cant step 19:14 into middle of it that's something you know 19:16 sometimes you say something well I can't stand between 19:17 you and the Lord I cant help you in that there are 19:20 certain things we can get ourselves into hasn't 19:22 straight now because another person psychologist, 19:24 psychiatrist whatever can't do it has to be God 19:28 You know it shows our inability to even save 19:30 ourselves if my own blood could save me then 19:32 I commit suicide and save myself but my blood 19:35 cannot save me the sinless blood of Christ 19:37 plead in my behalf to save me. 19:40 Very good your context is so key there 19:43 Yes. To understand because all we know is a 19:44 merciful God yet he adjust God and is a point 19:48 where mercy is resisted long enough to where 19:52 God has to do something as to interviewing 19:54 or sin would letting it run its course 19:56 Yeah. would overcome even 19:58 the plans of God. He is got to step there 20:01 Yeah. And of course god have to had 20:02 end of these thing because you know that the day when 20:04 hawk was taken both sons killed in battle 20:07 and he lacks this news in false backward of his 20:10 toward and dies and so that the Lord had to come in 20:13 and of course that the Phineas half niece 20:16 son wife borrow up a son who they called Ekobit 20:19 gloriously partied so in that one day the lord 20:22 sort of dealt with a whole issue 20:24 he left the one as long as he chose to it and 20:26 then he stopped it which is counsel for us 20:30 today sometimes you think you get to worrying 20:32 with staff and then the lord says okay today 20:34 is the last day for that I am going to put 20:36 an end to that today and of course on that day iqobat 20:39 died mother died on child birth 20:43 boy born prematurely half infinious is died 20:46 heart of Conan taken when Phil died. 20:48 so when the Lord moves he moves in a powerful way 20:52 he only tolerate sin so long and of course even 20:54 in these last days he was tolerate but so long 20:56 and then he says enough. 20:57 You know you hear so many times if you are 21:01 talking to someone who is just kind of learning 21:05 the bible and learning about the lord 21:06 and they've got a lot of questions and things 21:09 I hear the question that often comes back 21:11 Now. You know I read the bible and I like 21:13 the Jesus of the New Testament 21:16 but I really had a problem with the God 21:17 of the Old Testament and you know the responsibility 21:20 here that when we say the lord is dealing 21:22 with things back then it was Jesus 21:24 Yes, yes. That was Jesus and so 21:27 Jesus is simply manifesting both parts 21:29 of his character which is a merciful god 21:32 he is also adjust god he will not let sin go 21:35 beyond its point of you know no return. 21:38 Yeah, yeah. And the bible says you know 21:40 because sin is not dealt with sifley 21:44 people becoming bolder in their sins 21:45 Yeah. you know one thing about 21:49 judgment if you keep threatening, threatening 21:50 threatening they will bring it down 21:52 then you tend to get little relaxed 21:53 you know I am going to give you a spanking 21:55 I am going to give a spanking 21:56 and then after that you know before and then of course 21:59 everybody is surprised what I told you was common 22:01 It's right. It was on the way. 22:05 you just did it here and of course that's 22:08 going to happen for the world that god offer 22:10 just started 7000 years of sin 22:14 it cannot go on further Christ said we hold 22:16 on I am coming quickly and 22:17 we know that coming is very soon 22:20 Yeah. And people are saying 22:21 there is no god. Let's this happen 22:24 That things going on. Yeah, yeah. 22:27 one last question here from Michael 22:30 and this is actually a question that is asked 22:32 by several others it says I was told 22:37 it doesn't matter what we eat anymore 22:40 is it clean or unclean this has to do with the white 22:43 sheet vision with Paul 22:47 It doesn't matter whether we eat clean or unclean 22:49 fruits Romans 14:14; I 22:55 I am confused I don't want to go against God's plan 22:57 for my life good. Alright question and a question 23:01 is being asked several times in many do read 23:04 Romans chapter 14 and they read into 23:07 the couple of things that are not there 23:09 he first thing we commonly hear reading to that is 23:11 the Sabbath. Don't judge someone about 23:13 the day they observe and of course Sabbath 23:15 is not even mentioned there and it does not 23:17 have anything to do with Sabbath but people 23:18 read that into it the other thing 23:20 they read into that is the fact that all food 23:24 is now clean and that is something also that 23:28 that it doesn't say so I don't know 23:32 if we spend a lot of time here on each 23:34 specific passage you've got yourself turned 23:37 as in Romans 14 you have there. 23:38 Umh. Yeah, so we can touch 23:40 on that but just overall as far as a general 23:44 overview one thing I want to mention here is 23:47 that there is no place in the bible where 23:49 god ever calls initially specially certain unclean 23:57 foods, food we could say we use this term 24:01 unclean foods but it's kind of maximore. 24:05 its normal its not unclean food its just unclean. 24:09 This is not a food. This is not a food. 24:11 Right. And we find that even before the Jews 24:14 were the Jews and before israel was Israel 24:17 how know was told by god to take into the art clean 24:20 animals. Animals that were clean that 24:24 they could eat. He does wan't clean food 24:27 they can take in. it was clean animal 24:29 they would take in. The swine and all loved 24:32 the other things that were two by two 24:34 were unclean animals. Yes. 24:37 not labeled as food so when you get to the 24:40 new testimony her and people say well 24:43 that was the Jewish system no it was before 24:45 the Jewish system. No it was before the Jewish system 24:48 its with dealing Noah. But now you can even post Israel 24:51 is more spiritual is where the church. It's not like 24:54 God always said and says, Oh lets go back to the 24:56 old and call those foods now clean again because 24:59 what Christ did they are still not food. 25:02 Right. its an unclean animals. 25:04 So when Peter gets this vision 25:08 and it's a sheep being let down with the bunch of 25:10 unclean animals in it and the Lord says 25:12 go ahead and take and eat. 25:14 Peter's reply is what I've never let anything 25:16 like that cross my mouth. 25:18 I haven't taste any of that stuff. 25:21 Well, Jesus knows that because Jesus has been 25:22 with them and talking not to eat those kinds of food, 25:25 and even probably didn't have to teach him that 25:27 he knew that from the beginning. 25:28 Yeah. so, we read into that 25:31 and if we go little further in the context 25:33 there in Chapter 10, of that we look further 25:36 that actually says that Peter says, it was the Lord 25:39 taught me that I should treat no man. 25:41 Correct. Unclean. 25:43 Correct. So, the whole vision was 25:44 about how Paul was treating the gentiles 25:48 which I mean not Paul. Peter was treating 25:50 the gentiles which Paul rebuked him for. 25:52 There was a time where Paul was in a room. 25:54 and Peter was there and he was only associating 25:57 with Jews. He wouldn't mingle with the gentiles 25:59 and Paul here speaking to the gentiles 26:01 and looking around seeing that there was only 26:03 one look back at Peter and said hey that's not right 26:06 Yeah. In fact Peter got up from one group or 26:08 one of that with another group. 26:09 and Paul was stood him to his face. 26:12 Peter had a number of issues he was a sort of Jews 26:19 And it took Peter a little while to except 26:22 the call to take the gospel to a wider community. 26:25 You see this sort of resistance you know 26:27 and it pops up here, here again 26:31 and in this Acts chapter 10 26:33 God is actually preparing Peter's mind to except 26:37 a wider ministry. Peter would a kind of 26:40 what so whatever he confined himself to a certain 26:45 group of people now he is moving into 26:47 a wider ministry and God is showing him 26:51 and again we talk about context and keep on read 26:53 You know if you stop reading at that verse 26:56 you can't get stuff but if you keep on reading 26:59 Peter explains what God is doing to him, 27:02 that he is saying no man is unclean. 27:06 I should call no man unclean. 27:08 so take the same gospel message to the wider world 27:10 that you have been sort of complaining 27:12 to the Jewish community. 27:13 So, this is as really nothing to do a fool. 27:16 Right. This is evangelism 27:18 to the world field as opposed to justice 27:20 to Jewish community. Yeah. 27:21 You know, and they are also in Scripture 27:23 you know here is the evidence. 27:24 We keep talking about the evidence finding 27:26 the scripture what do you pre suppose. 27:31 There is no evidence that I can find 27:33 that man is a innately unclean, 27:38 we're sinful but god know whether 27:40 I can find label someone unclean 27:42 which would be saying they are unredeemable. 27:45 Yeah. or unforgivable or whatever it is. 27:47 Yeah. But for those things that he called unclean, 27:51 animals for say those he innately described 27:54 as being unclean in other words they never will be 27:57 or can be clean and we miss that point sometimes 28:01 We want to just Olovson and say well now 28:03 god calls everything clean. Yeah. 28:06 No, if it is not possible. Yeah. 28:08 But with mankind there are periods of time 28:10 that someone would touch a dead body 28:12 or they do things that they will be called 28:14 or would be unclean but that was more 28:16 spiritual application not innately unclean 28:19 as a human being. so we need to be very careful 28:23 how we take these things and run with them 28:25 very quickly and I know many teach that 28:27 you know it doesn't matter what you eat. 28:29 The bible doesn't see anything. 28:30 Yeah, yeah. And then why would Christ do that 28:32 Christ came to clean up your heart 28:35 and mind and to clean up mankind 28:39 not really to change the status of animals. 28:41 If an animal is unclean and really science is finding 28:46 that those animals that God called unclean 28:48 the assessment really aren't good for you anyway. 28:50 One of the reasons why doctors are doing so well 28:52 is because we are eating our way to our grace 28:56 with our knife and fork. You know we are digging 28:57 our grace with knief and fork. 28:59 Everything out there is not meant to put him up 29:02 when I was in undergrad at a friend that at, 29:07 we had come over from Arican 29:09 before he was converted they dried 29:11 white caterpillars that doesn't impress me. 29:14 you know then when I got to seminar 29:15 with the friends from Thailand who ate 29:18 was a capybara quit on Monday you know it hard given 29:20 as stuff. But that never intended before, you know 29:23 and they said, It's pretty hard you guys 29:25 had chicken but we had quit on monday. 29:28 You know, it's hard to given up coatimundi 29:30 but I was never intended to put in the mouth. 29:32 You know, I wasn't it wasn't. 29:34 so just because you can put it on the plate, 29:36 doesn't mean you should eat it. 29:39 It was clean thousand years ago, is clean today 29:42 and you eat it at the peril of your health 29:44 That's right. Yeah. 29:45 You know I am speaking specifically of the Verse 29:46 because that I know he mentioned Roman 14 - 29:51 specifically what he is talking about 29:52 as far as clean and unclean is those things 29:56 that were sacrificed are offered to idols. 29:59 They became ritually unclean and so many heard there was 30:03 struggle in the church and its not just 30:04 Romans 14 there were several places we find that there was 30:07 this battle between individuals in the church. 30:10 Some had problems with eating foods that were 30:13 offered to idols, some say that you know what, 30:14 what's idol it doesn't matter. Yeah. As long as 30:16 the food is clean as far as food wise. Right 30:20 That its fine and it should be eaten and its god 30:23 gave for food. So that passage is not dealing with 30:27 clean food as we are describing. Right. 30:29 Things that should be eaten. And you can see John how 30:31 that kind of ideological battle would come. 30:33 Some saying well that food is offered to Tamose and 30:37 other person saying well Tamose doesn't 30:39 really exist. You know its just because 30:41 it's nothing. He sat there before a statue 30:45 and they sold it the next day for half price. 30:46 I am buying it, you know that doesn't even exist. 30:49 You have given too much credit to the idol although 30:52 they say well no it was offered to an idol so it is 30:53 somehow theologically or ideologically defiled. 30:57 So, that kind of better and that's what it's dealing with, 31:00 not with the idea that the food per se is clean 31:03 or unclean but offered to idols clean food. 31:05 Yah, very good, very good. Well, thank you so much 31:10 for your questions. They were very very challenging 31:12 today and we appreciate those. If you have any other 31:15 questions feel free to mail them in or send them by email 31:18 to housecalls@3abn.org. We look forward to hearing 31:24 from you. Thank you so much. Here we got a topic that 31:27 I don't think we covered here a while, we are going to try 31:29 to do it in one program. So we're not going to get 31:31 really deep in this topic but it's a subject of the three 31:35 angels messages. You know sometimes we take it for 31:38 granted pastor Murray that people watching 3abn when 31:42 we say these words, three angels messages they know 31:44 what we are talking about and that's not always the case. 31:48 There are three angels in revelation chapter 14 that 31:53 proclaiming message from heaven to the world and 31:58 you know one would read that sometimes and say well that's 32:02 an interesting message but in the context of prophecy in 32:05 the context of where that message comes it seems to be 32:08 a message for the world that needs to be heated in 32:10 the last days. Something that we should pay attention 32:14 to and something that we should wake up and listen to, 32:16 coz if we don't it could be at our parole in fact I would 32:19 suggest it would be at our parole. 32:21 Oh very much so. And so one of the reasons 32:23 why the Seventh-Day Adventist Church has 32:24 recognized those three angels' messages and then 32:27 the other angel of Revelation 18 as pertaining to the time 32:32 in which we live is because angels are messengers, 32:37 that's what angel means, you know it's a messenger. 32:40 Yes. And if this message has been proclaimed to all 32:42 the world there is a parole out there with the words of 32:45 Christ in his prophecy of the end time that the gospel 32:49 will be preached to all the world and then the end 32:52 will come. So the same context of Matthew 24 there 32:57 of Jesus words we find again in Revelation 14 32:59 and onward. And so may be what we had to do here is 33:03 just kind of read through each one and talk a little bit 33:07 about what that angel is saying. That is so important 33:12 for these last days. And let me profess by saying 33:17 something else to before you read those. 33:19 We are 2000 years down the line from Christ death 33:27 resurrection and ascension to heaven. Yes. 33:30 People have been wondering for 2000 years when Jesus 33:34 will come again and the only evidence we have that seems 33:40 to be given to us by gods word of his soon appearance 33:44 is not a time. There are time prophecies but there is 33:47 not a specific time that tells us when he is coming. 33:49 But the evidence that we're given is prophecies or signs 33:53 of the times that the generation that sees Christ 33:58 appearing will be living in. and it seems to be that 34:01 revelation 14 is giving us three messages that are 34:06 connected to these signs that those that generation 34:10 that hears or sees those things happening should be 34:12 listening specifically to that message. And so if you 34:17 turn your Bibles with us to Revelation chapter 14 we will 34:21 pick things up in Verse 6 with the first angel's message. 34:27 This is a message then now given by the angels to the 34:30 entire world and not given by angels literally but 34:34 given through messengers that god is using through his 34:37 church or in his church to the world depicted as angels. 34:41 Yes. Okay. You want to go ahead and read the first one 34:44 or read the second one. Go ahead and start. 34:46 Then I saw another angel flying in the midheaven 34:49 having ever lasting gospel to preach to those who dwell 34:53 on the earth to every nation, Kindred or tribe my Bible 34:57 says tongue and people saying with a loud voice fear god 35:00 give glory to him for the hour of his judgment has come 35:04 and worship him who made the heaven, the earth, the sea 35:08 and the springs of waters. You know John you have got 35:11 a number of clues that sort of give you the context for 35:14 looking at this whole thing right after that. One the 35:18 message is being carried by an angel, so it lets us know 35:21 of the exalted nature of the message. Not just some guy 35:25 running with a sheet of paper this is the message 35:28 that has been trusted to angels and so it is one a 35:32 message of important. This is something we had 35:35 sort of red flat because it's important and 35:38 it's flying in the midst of heaven. So these give us the 35:44 idea or the notion that something very very 35:46 important is coming. It's moving with speed and with 35:50 an exalted nature and is something that you need to 35:53 sort of stop of everything 35:54 sort of hold the presses as it where 35:56 and pay attention to what's coming because this is going 35:59 to affect your salvation and how you're going to be 36:03 prepared for something that's coming on the road, 36:05 that this is sort of the announcement if I can use 36:10 that terminology. So, and of course it's the ever 36:16 lasting gospel. Now, we say the three angels message it 36:20 is really one message with sort of three segments with 36:23 sort of compartmentalized. Right. And you can 36:27 look at these three but they are not separate each one 36:29 builds on is part of what goes on before. 36:33 So we have got the ever lasting gospel which was the 36:36 good news of Christ but this is saying given that 36:41 good news or some stuff that appertains to that. 36:44 That we see it is very very outside of this message. 36:47 So to preach those who are on the earth, to every nation 36:51 try tongue and people so this is not a colloquial 36:54 message by any stretch of the imagination. 36:56 This is a world wide message that is to effect every 36:59 single person living on planet. 37:01 It's almost a book in to the great commission. 37:02 Yes, yes, very much. Jesus, the last words Jesus 37:07 gave to his disciples was the admonition, the command 37:12 almost to go and preach, baptize, teach, make 37:18 disciples of and it seems like this, that was the 37:22 beginning of the process now this we find is the last 37:26 finishing work of that process. 37:28 I love that, I do, I do. And also the fact that an 37:32 angel is carrying, it doesn't mean there is no 37:33 longer in the hands of man we are dealing with a book 37:35 that is fugitive in his language. So that the fact 37:40 that the angel has just is more a commentary on the 37:43 exalted nature of the message not that god is going 37:46 to take it out of the hands of the men and women who are 37:49 called to live out and to preach and teach that gospel 37:52 and put in the hands of angels. Yeah. 37:54 And so as we look at what message, what is the message 37:58 on the first angel that is going to every nation, 38:01 tribe tongue and people, we know it's the gospel but 38:03 the gospel to contain some key elements. Yes. 38:07 That this seems to focus on that has been last sight of 38:12 overtime so while the church may been doing good job of 38:18 teaching certain aspects of doctrine, the Christian faith 38:22 they have not been doing a good job in some of these 38:26 areas and so it's something that the angels are bringing 38:30 to the world to say these are key elements, these are 38:32 important truths that you are not seeing that need do 38:37 really be expounded on in the last days before Christ return. 38:40 Those which were cleared but in the ages have 38:44 become somewhat obscured. You sort of diverted your 38:47 focus so. He is saying with a loud voice megaphone 38:49 in the Greek from which we get megaphone loud 38:51 voice fear god, respect him, glorify him, not be afraid 38:56 of him but respect him with almost a difference, 39:02 differ to god. Get yourself in relation with god. 39:05 Glorify, honor him, give glory to him for the hour of 39:08 his judgment has come. So God is looking at cases, 39:12 God is preparing to come back and when he 39:14 comes back we find in Revelation quite a bit later 39:18 he is, his reward is with him so that it hird was a 39:22 pre-advent judgment, the fact that when Christ 39:25 comes I am giving out the goodies when I come, so 39:27 I am going to determine who gets the 39:28 goodies before I come. 39:30 So hour of judgment is come in it now, its going on now, 39:35 so get yourself in right relationship with him now 39:38 because he is looking at your case now and worship him. 39:42 And that's really, you know that part is well really 39:45 I mean its well supported by the rest of scripture and 39:49 we have couple of incidences in the Parables of Christ of 39:53 the inspection of guests prior to the return 39:56 from the wedding and so there is an inspection 39:59 going on there, there is a judgment of this one who 40:02 doesn't have on a wedding garment. 40:03 And, so there is this that going on, 40:05 I'm reading, I'm paraphrasing 40:07 from Mathew chapter 22. Yes. There is the divergent. 40:11 Some wise, five wise, five foolish in Mathew 25 40:14 and how those who were ready went in with him 40:17 to the wedding an aspect of attending this great event 40:21 in heaven that's going on where Christ is 40:23 receiving his kingdom. We attend by faith, 40:26 and when he comes back he is rewarding, 40:28 he already mentioned that he is rewarding 40:29 those who have been faithful to him. 40:31 And so the scriptures are very, very in harmony, 40:37 they are much in harmony with this pre-advent judgment 40:41 that it has come it's already happening 40:43 and when he comes we find the executive 40:46 phase of it. He meets out the sentence, 40:47 but we find that the judgment part 40:49 the inspection part has already occurred. 40:51 Yeah, yeah. Christ says 40:52 very plainly in Revelation 40:54 20:12, I'm coming and my reward is with me, 40:58 when I come the reward is coming with me. 41:00 So the determination as to who receives 41:03 has already been made. Just before that we find 41:07 let him who is righteous, be righteous still 41:09 let him who is unjust be unjust still 41:11 so that determination has been made 41:13 when Christ comes he is not coming 41:15 to make a decision. He is coming to execute 41:17 a decision that's already been made. 41:20 That's right. That's right. Yeah. 41:21 You are going to go ahead and go on there, 41:22 I think he mentioned worship. And worship him 41:25 who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water. 41:28 It's time to disabuse ourselves of worship 41:31 of anything or any other thing then 41:34 the one true God who made everything you see, 41:36 everything you are, everything you hope 41:38 to be that comes from God. So realign yourself. 41:41 Reorder yourself to worship him and him alone 41:44 don't let anything discourage you, 41:45 distract you, dissuade you, 41:46 from worship of the true and living God. 41:50 You know, we live in the time especially within America, 41:53 but I think in the developed world 41:54 we live in a time where people for the most 41:57 part are prosperous. And they have lost 41:59 the sense of meeting God in their life. 42:02 Yes. And I think, to a great degree 42:04 prosperity can be, I didn't say yes, 42:07 but it can be a tool of the enemy. 42:09 Yes, yeah, yeah. Or we can get ourselves 42:11 so focused on what we have or what we're pursuing 42:13 or what we want. Very true. That we're missing 42:16 what spiritually the thing that we need. 42:18 Yeah, yeah. Is Jesus in our lives 42:20 and so this is the reminder to comeback to worship 42:22 your creator the one who made you. 42:24 Worship him because, he is the one 42:27 that's gonna save you. Yeah, having stuff 42:29 can be a very distracting thing. 42:31 You know many times we go on a mission trips 42:33 you're called to go different areas of the world 42:36 and to see people who don't have 42:37 all of the things that we have in the states. 42:41 And yet they seem so happy and so contain. 42:43 And may be that's the secret to try to disabuse ourselves 42:50 or some of the stuff. You know, because 42:53 stuff takes work, and then when you get stuff 42:57 you spend sometime protecting your stuff 42:59 and then sometimes you want more stuff 43:01 and then you got to get new stuff, and then 43:03 of course our world where you have this 43:05 planned up the lessons every couple years, 43:07 your stuff is obsolete. So you gotta 43:09 upgrade you stuff, you know, and you can get 43:12 very focused man on your stuff and of course, 43:17 I don't know the text, just now John perhaps 43:19 you know what it says that a man's worth does not, 43:22 is not summed up by the things that he has. 43:26 You know, so you're not are more value to God 43:30 because you have more stuff then me. 43:31 You know God doesn't rate your stuff, 43:34 he wants you, he wants your heart. 43:36 That's the only thing that you have that he, 43:38 he is interested in having, not your stuff. 43:40 And he is not impressed with your stuff. 43:41 And of course you can't take your stuff with you, 43:44 when you go. That's right. So we can get so caught up 43:47 with the stuff that we lose our focus, you know. 43:50 And that's one of the things that this message is saying. 43:54 It's time to, to concentrate on God 43:57 and put God in right place in your life. 43:59 Put him on the throne and keep him there, 44:01 because that's where it belongs not your stuff. 44:03 Now Peter talks about and I think its Second Peter 44:07 1:12 talks about present truth. Yes. 44:09 He uses that term present truth. 44:11 There seems to be in certain eras, 44:14 where there is a present truth. Yes, Yes. 44:16 I think what he is meaning when he talks about that 44:19 or he mentions that he uses that language. 44:22 He is talking about there is something that 44:24 is so pertinent for that day. That if not he did, 44:27 if not understood you could be deceived 44:30 and come on we can't be so deceived either to think 44:34 that the Devil doesn't change his tactics. 44:36 Oh! Yes. You know he does change his tactics 44:39 and so he has as well changed his tactics 44:43 in the last days in certain areas 44:45 and there is some present truth 44:47 in this message. And I mentioned that 44:49 Because there is the Language here of worshiping him 44:54 who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water. 44:56 Has a tie to the creatorship, the creator God. Yes, yes. 45:02 And the fourth commandment the language is very, very 45:04 similar to the fourth commandment itself, 45:06 so it seems to be part of this message 45:08 is getting people to look back to their creator 45:12 and the day established to memorialize him. 45:15 Because we talk about some memorial creation, 45:19 but really it's a memorial of our creator. 45:20 Yes, very much so. Yeah, yeah, I think sometimes 45:22 we don't intentionally but we leave our creator 45:26 when we talk about this, the memorial creation 45:28 but its really a memorial of God 45:30 and who he is as a creator to us and so this here seems 45:34 to be saying this is your God he created you and 45:37 he also created a day to memorialize his work. 45:40 Yeah. Yeah. And this has been last 45:43 side for many years. The Seventh-Day 45:44 being Sabbath. I like that. I do. I do. 45:45 It tells you what to do but it tells you 45:48 why you should do it because he is your creator, 45:50 and it reorients your heart and mind off of yourself 45:54 you know we live in I-world. 45:56 I-pod, I-phone, I-pad you know just I 46:01 everything is I. and this is saying 46:03 I is not it, it's him it's all about 46:06 God your creator, right. Yeah, well then he goes on 46:09 here we go right to the second angels. 46:11 It says another angel followed in verse 8 46:13 saying Babylon is fallen is fallen that great city 46:17 because she has made all nations drink of the wine 46:20 of the wrath of her fornication. 46:22 Babylon appears interesting here how the term Babylon 46:29 is used because obviously we can go back 46:31 and we think of and this is intentional 46:33 we've got to go back to little Babylon 46:36 to see what was going on there to understand 46:39 what Babylon is being referred 46:40 to here and this is I'm talking about the 46:43 literal city of Babylon that does not exist 46:45 Anymore, but spiritually what is Babylon 46:48 and why has it fallen, I think to understand 46:53 this more fully too you have got to read Revelation 18. 46:56 Yes. Yeah. Which adds to the fact 46:59 of Babylon has fallen, it adds to that come out 47:02 of her mild people. Yes. So Gods people 47:06 here a great majority of Gods people 47:09 are in Babylon as Israel was once in Babylon. 47:13 Correct. And now we're being called 47:15 to come out before the new Jerusalem is established 47:18 with Gods kingdom. Yeah, when you want 47:20 to get a very simple handle on what Babylon is 47:23 it is a place where Gods people are. 47:28 There are people who love the Lord who God claims 47:30 as his own in Babylon as we speak, 47:34 so we're talking about a religious entity as apposed 47:39 to second entry. Right. When if God puts 47:41 claims on them then we're talking about 47:43 a spiritual entity, so is Babylon a city, 47:45 is Babylon a town or Babylon a country, 47:47 no, no, it's a church we're talking about claims 47:51 to be spiritual. It claims to be right 47:52 it is a religious belief system or group 47:56 of systems that God has for some reason 47:59 rejected he is saying get out of that 48:01 you are in that now, get out of that 48:03 and come directly to me because evidently 48:05 what you are doing is standing between you and me 48:08 or they are some amount of error there, 48:11 there is something going on in Babylon 48:16 in that belief sector in that belief system 48:17 that I don't want, I want you to come out of that 48:19 and then base your worship on what has already gone. 48:22 Give glory to me, give honor to me, 48:25 love me, fear me, respect me, evidently those things 48:29 are not going on where you are. 48:31 That's right. Come out of that 48:33 and realign yourself with me. 48:34 That's very good. And if you look at 48:36 Revelation 17, where the women the Great Harlot 48:39 is called Babylon the Great. Yes. 48:42 It's on her forehead it's on her, 48:45 its her return name. The women represents 48:48 the church always, yes. A women is a church. 48:50 Well, this women is a Harlot, so it's got 48:52 to be Apostate Church or system that appears 48:56 to be Godly, but really isn't. It's Doctrines, yeah. 49:00 And you know clearly here when it talks about nations 49:04 drinking of the wine of the wrath 49:06 of her fornication what they are drinking 49:08 of is her doctrine, her Teachings, Her doctrines, 49:09 correct, those things that are not true 49:13 or pertaining to God which is why this whole 49:15 message is being proclaimed in the first place. 49:17 Precisely, yeah, and this is shocking to men 49:20 and maybe before that because God 49:22 is making number of statements here. 49:23 One of the things he is saying is that 49:24 there are religious systems that look pretty good 49:27 from the outside that pretend or purport 49:30 to be the real deal but they are not, right. 49:33 So what you need to do is look at where you are, 49:36 what you're doing, your worship style, 49:39 your doctrinal package look at that stuff 49:42 and make sure that it is aligned with the will 49:46 of God that it is aligned with the Bible 49:47 because evidently there are chalets in there. 49:50 Yeah. Everybody saying Lord, Lord, 49:52 is not the real deal, right. So you better make sure 49:57 it is time to make sure give him the fact 49:58 that judgment has started and Christ is coming 50:02 that this is going to end one day 50:04 and when I come and what is going to be with me 50:07 you see this everyone builds on it 50:09 you know it builds on what goes prior. 50:10 Give it all of that you ought to make 50:12 very, very sure that what you're doing 50:16 spiritually that the worship package 50:18 that you have taken onto yourself is Godly 50:21 and Biblical and if its not get out of it. 50:23 That's right. Yeah, leave it alone. 50:25 That's right, you know, there is a text 50:27 that I discovered a couple of years ago 50:28 that was very helpful for me in this. 50:30 Michael 2:11, I'll just read here we don't have 50:33 to spend lot of time with it, but Michael 50:35 2:11 says If a man should walk 50:36 in a false spirit, yes and speak a lie saying 50:40 I will prophesy to you of wine and drink 50:43 even he would be the Prattler of his people. 50:46 So when this is describing Babylon as making nations 50:50 drink of the wine of the wrath of fornication 50:52 really is talking about she as a system 50:55 are speaking lies, hypocrisy, false things, 50:59 to try and get people to deceive people into 51:01 believing something that is not true. 51:03 And we find that other angel in Revelation 18 51:07 is describing that at one point 51:09 she falls, the whole system is collapsing 51:12 and there isn't any time to waive her in staying 51:15 in her any longer. Yeah, you know, 51:17 we live in a John where there is so much 51:20 multiculturalism and then so much pluralism 51:22 and to an extent those things are good, 51:24 but when Christ says I am the way the truth 51:29 and the life no one comes to the father 51:31 brought by me that is a very bigoted statement. 51:35 Christ is saying if you want to get to God 51:39 you've got to come through me. It doesn't allow 51:43 for any other means mechanism to get to God, 51:47 but now either that statement is true 51:49 or it is false. Right. If that is a true statement 51:54 than we better come to Jesus and lean on him 51:57 like our lives depend on him because indeed they do. 52:00 You come to the father through me so it makes, 52:05 it puts us on alert to make sure that 52:09 what we believe, what we are teaching, 52:11 what we're preaching, what we are living, 52:13 has to line up with the word of God 52:16 it has to and if you see any variance then you've got 52:20 to share that system because it is not 52:25 taking the true God it is taking you 52:28 on a parallel of course or even away from God 52:30 and that's what this particular call 52:33 of the angel is saying you've got 52:35 to watch out for. And pertaining to worship 52:37 John 4:23 and 24 you know this verse 52:40 as well, well, but the hour is coming, 52:43 and now is when the true worshippers 52:44 were worship the Father in spirit and truth. Both. 52:48 That he desires such kind of spirit 52:50 those who worship him must be worshipping him 52:52 in spirit and in truth. So, there is this definition 52:57 of what it means to worship God 52:58 and that is in his spirit and according to his truth. 53:02 Yes, yes, not that dictates of our own heart. 53:04 So then you get to we don't have a lot of time 53:07 here, but get to the third angel's message 53:10 and it seems pretty solemn, sobering none the least. 53:16 It says Verse 9. Third angel followed 53:20 them saying with the loud voice if anyone worships 53:22 the beast and his image that is the subject of worship 53:24 again and receives his mark on his forehead 53:27 around his hand, he himself shall also 53:29 drink of the wine of the wrath of God 53:31 which is poured out in full strength 53:33 into his cup of indignation, he shall be tormented 53:35 with fire and brimstone in the presence 53:37 of the holy angels and the presence of the lamb 53:39 and the smoke of the torment essence for ever and ever 53:42 and they have no rest day or night who worship the beast 53:44 and his image and whoever receives 53:46 the mark of his name. Here is the patience 53:49 of the saints this is a key part as well 53:51 to the third angel's message. 53:53 Here are those who keep the commandments of God 53:56 and the faith of Jesus. A clear distinction 53:58 it seems like pastor, between worshiping the beast 54:02 and those who keep the commandments of God 54:05 and the faith of Jesus. Yeah, there you know 54:10 to study this and to sort of get the full meaning 54:14 You've got a sort of bite of kind of big chunk 54:18 and chew it little all together and the keys 54:21 that comes at the end, there is a difference between 54:24 those who are given the commandments 54:26 and the faith or in the faith of Jesus 54:29 and those who are not and that does seem to be 54:32 the dividing line. And so the call 54:35 is to make sure that we are command in 54:39 keeping and that we are doing so in the faith of Jesus, 54:42 through the faith of Jesus by the power of Jesus, 54:45 those are the self check that's the mirror 54:49 just you sought to hold up to yourself, am I keeping 54:51 and I keeping it in the faith of Jesus 54:52 and once you have assume, assured yourself of that 54:55 well, then you on the right course. 54:56 And there is no legalism here either? 54:58 No. That's why, I think the writer 55:01 and the word of God is very clear to show that the 55:04 keeping of commandments of God is done in the faith 55:06 and power of Jesus and done with the power of Christ, 55:10 the faith of Christ working through us as well, 55:13 see this is Christ doing these things through the power of 55:16 the Holy Spirit through our lives to change us to, mold 55:19 us to put his law and write in our heart, so that it would 55:21 naturally flows from us in our experience of salvation 55:26 is a living in harmony with God's commandments. 55:29 It's not an effort, if I do this I am okay, 55:32 it's the change that has occurred in one. 55:35 The Lord is telling us to do any number of things 55:37 as we prepare ourselves for the end of the history 55:40 of this world, but they are done in the light of as a 55:43 consequence of a working relationship 55:46 with Jesus Christ. It is, it is, through the power 55:49 of Christ when I said, I make this examination, 55:51 because if I don't really have a function 55:54 related to Christ, I am not even see these things, 55:55 I may not even be aware of this things 55:58 Right. But But, I am looking at you 56:01 Jesus, I'm praying to you Jesus, am I doing the right 56:05 Thing, am I following the right way, am I walking 56:09 in a faith group, that is aligned with the word of God 56:13 Umm! Umm! And Lord if I am not 56:14 show me what's wrong and then assist me as I try to 56:18 get in a right group. Yeah. 56:20 But this is calling for radical maneuvering. 56:23 Umm! if your in the wrong 56:25 church, get out and find the right one. So its 56:30 calling for bible study, it's calling for consecration, it's 56:33 calling for surrender, it's calling prayer and it's 56:35 calling for making a move, if a move is necessary. 56:40 And even Jesus himself said, that there are many sheep. 56:43 I have that are not of form, but he goes on to say. 56:46 Yeah. Them also I will call. 56:48 Yes. Yes. and bring them in, 56:50 so there is ecumenical if can even use the word, 56:53 although we don't agree with ecumenism like it's going 56:56 on right now. Yeah. 56:58 Among all churches, but there is a gathering, 57:00 it's probably the most appropriate word of God's 57:02 people to each other and to him, who with stand at 57:06 the end following the message here, that is 57:10 given in three angels. Yes. 57:12 To make sure that they are observing and worshiping 57:15 God in the way, that he asks. 57:17 Umm! What a powerful thing 57:19 to do it in the way that the God ask. 57:20 Yeah. Yeah. 57:22 Well, our prayer it's been a world win a rapid ride, 57:25 but we pray that you have been blessed with the further at 57:28 least deeper understanding of God's word according to 57:30 those three angels God bless you. 57:32 We will see you next time. |
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