House Calls

Relationships God's Way Part 2

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Participants: John Lomacang (Host), John Stanton

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00:01 Hello friends, grab your Bible and a friend
00:03 and sit back as we explore God's word
00:04 together on this edition of House Calls.
00:22 Welcome to the Bible journey, that's exactly
00:25 what I said, a Bible journey. We don't know
00:28 where it's going to end, at least today
00:30 we don't know but in eternity hopefully we'll
00:33 all be in the kingdom together to see
00:35 the living word. But today welcome to House Calls
00:38 where we speak about the written word,
00:41 and I'm not by myself, I have my good friend
00:43 John Stanton. It's good to be here John,
00:45 studying the word together. That's right,
00:46 the best place to be, and by the way this is
00:49 the best place on earth right now.
00:52 At least we think so, if we didn't think so
00:54 we wouldn't be here, so thank you for joining us,
00:56 sit back do not be in a hurry, hit the record
00:59 button, we're going to get into the
01:00 word of God today. And before we do that though
01:04 we always pray and ask for the Lord
01:05 to lead in our study. Let's start, let's do that.
01:08 Dear Father in heaven, we're so grateful to be
01:11 able to come before your throne here,
01:13 asking for your Holy Spirit for to lead and
01:16 guide us through your word. We have some topics
01:18 set here before us, but Father, we want your
01:22 leading and your guidance to take us through
01:24 your word, and to teach us things that maybe
01:27 we haven't thought about before.
01:29 Lord, we just pray that this whole study
01:31 and everything that is done will bring honor to
01:33 your name, and it will give you primary the
01:36 glory in all things, in Jesus name amen, amen.
01:39 Well, friends as many of you know this program
01:42 has a lot to do with Bible questions,
01:45 and where do we get those questions from?
01:47 We get them from you, and so before we go
01:49 into our topic today, which is about
01:51 relationships and we lay the foundation I believe
01:54 our last program we'd like to encourage you
01:57 if you have any Bible questions you wanna
01:58 send to us, send those to housecalls@3abn.org,
02:02 that's housecalls@3abn.org and we go to the
02:05 Internet type it in, download it and
02:09 here they are. So, when you send questions,
02:13 I think you can guarantee that they maybe
02:15 addressed or answered if you make them succinct
02:17 into the point, when you make them books
02:20 we try to send them off to the Library of Congress
02:22 but they don't accept it either.
02:24 Anyhow we're here today and John is going to begin
02:26 with out first Bible question, what do you
02:28 have for us John? Well, I have a question that
02:29 has come up several times in the past and
02:32 you know we try to, to explain it and to
02:35 share at least biblically with some good
02:38 hermeneutics, okay, you know when I say
02:40 what that word hermeneutics says
02:41 a lot of people don't pay a lot of attention to it.
02:43 But hermeneutics are something that brings all
02:46 the scriptures together, the harmony of everything
02:48 together as we interpret maybe a verse or
02:50 a passage in its proper context. And so anyway
02:54 this one is often taken out of context John,
02:57 this scripture that this question comes from.
02:59 This Gallon Nancy says, that she is currently
03:05 conducting a Bible study with a lady who's been
03:07 taught the Genesis 6:1 to 4 teaches that
03:09 evil angels come down from heaven, had relations
03:12 with women and produce giants, I mean with men,
03:16 with humans, okay. Relations with women,
03:19 oh I got it, humans and produce giants,
03:22 I'm having trouble finding the proper scripture
03:24 to show that the sons of God were
03:26 descendants of Seth and the daughters of men
03:28 were descendants of Cain. She wants to know
03:30 specifically where the Bible says this.
03:33 Okay, well thank you very much Nancy for
03:35 sending this question in. The Bible is actually
03:37 very clear about that, that the two chapters
03:42 previous to Genesis chapter 6 do reveal very
03:47 clearly and succinctly the genealogy of Cain,
03:50 and the genealogy of Seth, and in fact in
03:54 genealogy of Seth, Adam is mentioned.
03:57 So, it starts with Adam. In the genealogy of Cain,
04:00 guess who that starts with? Cain, so clearly
04:03 we have two descendants, Adam who was created by
04:07 God himself, is spoken of as having a line down
04:12 through Seth and so we have his genealogy.
04:14 Starting with chapter 5 all down through well
04:19 the entire chapter, chapter 5 down through verse 32
04:21 is all about the godly that is Seth's line
04:25 beginning with Adam. Now, Cain, Cain's line
04:30 begins at Genesis 4 verse 16 and it goes on
04:35 there down and talks about his line and that is
04:38 speaking of the ungodly or those that were not
04:41 the sons of God, but the sons of men.
04:43 And so then when you get to the chapter 6
04:46 you actually see the conflict, the controversy
04:49 really begin to unfold John, as I think probably
04:52 where as maybe the Great Controversy begins
04:55 in chapter 3 with the temptation of Eve and
04:59 then the fall of both Adam and Eve.
05:00 We find in chapter 6 the controversy of the
05:04 descendants of those beginning to unfold,
05:08 the controversy between the sons of God
05:10 and the sons of men, or the daughters of men
05:12 as referred to here. And we'll pick it up with
05:14 the verse 1: Now it came to pass, when men
05:17 began to multiply on the face of the earth,
05:20 and daughters were born to them, that the
05:22 sons of God saw the daughters of men,
05:25 that they were beautiful; and they took wives
05:27 for themselves of all whom they chose.
05:31 Okay, alright, so let's look at this first John
05:34 because there is something that I think
05:37 those who teach falsely scripture.
05:42 We'll try to do that we as honest seekers of God's
05:46 word should make sure that we do not
05:48 allow them to do it. And I'm speaking very much
05:51 in legal language here, because this is,
05:55 this is often what has happened, what happens
05:57 in a court room, where a lawyer will try to pull
06:00 in some presuppositions and things that really
06:02 aren't true, premise that is false, right,
06:05 build off that premises, to premise to establish
06:08 some kind of a logic conclusion, a logical
06:11 conclusion that is false. And so here's what I
06:14 mean by that, immediately when anyone is
06:17 discussing this passage, sons of God,
06:20 daughters of men they do one specific thing
06:23 pertaining to the fallen angels. And that is
06:26 Satan and the third of the angels that were
06:28 cast out of heaven and here's what they do,
06:29 here's where the false premise comes.
06:32 They immediately scribe to them the ability
06:34 to propagate, to procreate, right, that's right.
06:38 That is an assumption that you have to make
06:40 in this passage to interpret the way that
06:42 many interpret it today which is that evil angels
06:46 saw the women that were beautiful, came down
06:48 took wives of them, and had relations with them
06:51 and then they had giants that were born to them
06:54 which are descendants of these fallen angels.
06:58 And you have to, to accept that kind of a
07:01 conclusion or interpretation of this,
07:03 you have to say as a premise that angels have
07:07 the ability to procreate. And that's called
07:09 another theological term I say Jesus adding,
07:12 adding new text, something it's not there, right.
07:15 There is not a single, not one scripture anywhere
07:20 in God's word that ever even implies that
07:24 angels were given the ability to procreate,
07:26 no, it just doesn't exist. Matter of fact when
07:31 the Bible refers to sons of God, the only time
07:34 you can find a phrase that you could try your
07:40 best to twist as in Job 2:1 when it says:
07:44 And there was a day when the sons of God
07:45 came to present themselves before the Lord,
07:48 and Satan came also among them to present
07:51 himself before the Lord. That's the only place
07:53 that you could, you know you could twist
07:56 and then you find the other verse, these are the
07:58 verses that they take out of context though
08:00 in Job 38 verse 7: When the morning stars
08:03 sang together, and all the sons of God
08:06 shouted for joy? Showing two different categories,
08:10 the morning stars which are the angels,
08:12 stars were angels, singing together,
08:13 and the sons of God godly, godly men,
08:17 rejoiced and sang before the Lord.
08:19 But the proper context for those, the inference
08:23 here in Genesis 6 is in John 1 and verse 12
08:25 and in Romans 8 and verse 14
08:27 and Romans 8 and verse 19, and here they are.
08:30 But as many, this is John 1 verse 12:
08:32 But as many as receive him, to them he gave
08:36 power to become the sons of God,
08:40 and so when it talks about the sons of God
08:43 came unto the daughter of men. You followed
08:46 the history and this is something that is very
08:48 interesting, as long as the children of Israel,
08:53 as long as godly men remains separate from
08:58 ungodly women. This is the foundation for
09:01 much of what Solomon writes, strange women
09:04 will turn your heart away from God,
09:06 as long as they remains separate, then there was
09:09 no degradation of the morality of the races
09:14 that God created. And the biggest concern was
09:15 that these women would get them to begin to
09:19 worship their false Gods that were from these
09:21 other nations, and that was the biggest concern,
09:24 the Lord knew that would happen.
09:25 Example Ahab and Jezebel, right, prime example,
09:28 example Samson and Delilah, right, you see
09:31 those examples you find again Samson, a man that
09:34 God chose, Delilah, a woman God did not choose,
09:38 the daughters of men, the daughter of man.
09:41 Jezebel, the daughter of man, Ethbaal that was
09:45 the God that they worshiped, Baal the God
09:47 tbat she worshiped, daughters of men.
09:52 Ahab, God choose him a King, son of God,
09:55 but when he linked himself what happened?
09:57 He went down, she didn't come up, right,
10:00 and see then what happens. So, and then
10:01 Romans 1:14, Romans 8:14: For as many as are
10:05 led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
10:09 And so John you have the proper context here,
10:10 this is not talking about angels procreating and
10:13 impregnating them, because angels are not
10:15 beings that were told to be fruitful and multiply.
10:19 That's right, in fact they serve the Lord in
10:21 the heavens and they were the host and if the
10:24 word angel is messenger or one who ministers,
10:28 and so they were the ones that did God's
10:30 bidding as things needed to go forward and,
10:33 and the government begin to operate and
10:36 you know we have this very narrow minded view
10:38 too that maybe this world is the only one,
10:40 earth is the only world that God created.
10:42 I believe differently, and I believe that God's
10:45 government was not only created and established
10:49 by Him based upon His laws, but the ones
10:52 that He choose to begin to put into operation
10:54 and to conduct the operation of that
10:57 government were the heavenly host, right,
10:59 the angels. They were never told to be
11:02 fruitful and multiply, no. If that was the case
11:05 what would the angels, the fallen angels be
11:08 doing most significantly after He only took a third,
11:12 He would try to procreate as fast as He could evil,
11:16 evil angels to grow His army and to be able to
11:20 conquer the enemy, the foe which was God's,
11:23 God's army. There is no evidence of that
11:25 happening, no, not at all. And so here's why
11:27 I start off that way, because usually I started
11:29 off by saying well the sons of God are these,
11:31 the sons and daughters of men are these,
11:32 which you stated very clearly, that's an
11:34 important point. But the reasons I say it
11:36 because the burden of proof is not on you
11:39 to prove that this isn't fallen angels were having
11:44 relationships with men or with women, right.
11:48 The burden of proof is on them to show that
11:52 angels have the ability to procreate, because
11:54 there is no evidence whatsoever of that
11:56 anywhere in scripture. In fact all the evidence
12:00 John, there is, this is, I wouldn't call it
12:03 acts of Jesus, I would say is probably good
12:05 acts of Jesus which is what we're suppose to be
12:07 doing, pulling out of the text what's there,
12:08 I think it's there is good evidence, so to suggest
12:12 that one of the reasons that Satan was so jealous
12:16 Adam and Eve was their ability to procreate.
12:19 Right. they could not, that's a very good.
12:21 He could not, they could. He looked upon them
12:24 as hey what's going on here, and sought to bring
12:27 that, them down. He also saw a way that he
12:30 could create a vast army of people that would
12:33 be sympathizers of his, you know not just the
12:36 third that he took, but hey if I can get them
12:39 who can procreate to propagate evil,
12:42 I can have a kingdom of my own. You see there is
12:44 evidence that suggests that he couldn't which is
12:47 why he sought the world to take it down because
12:50 they could, Adam and Eve could. That's right.
12:52 So, I'm looking here and I'm saying the evidence
12:56 of burden of proof is on them to establish that
12:59 there is an ability of the angels, the fallen angels
13:01 to procreate, it's just not there.
13:03 And angels are never referred to as beings that
13:06 formed in the image of God, or even men or women,
13:09 men or women, right they're not referred to
13:11 in a context of agenda, very, very good point.
13:13 Who said the angels are men, who says they
13:15 are women, they are not them neither.
13:16 And they only take on the form of the appearance
13:19 that, that the Lord allows them to in order to
13:21 communicate to us. But here's the point,
13:26 well here's another scripture I should say to
13:27 build this point on, Hebrews 1 verse 13 and 14
13:31 once again given the clear identity of who
13:33 the angels are. But to which of the angels
13:36 did He said any time: Sit at My right hand,
13:39 till I make your enemies your footstool?
13:42 Are they not all ministering spirits sent
13:47 forth to minister for those who will inherit
13:50 salvation? They are not procreating beings,
13:53 they are ministering spirits, and so you are
13:57 talking about some serious stuff here, yeah.
13:59 You know, I don't want to even go down that
14:02 road, yeah. It just, it doesn't make sense,
14:04 it just really is an argument that makes me
14:06 say oh! I don't even know where the basis
14:08 for this is coming from, because there's a lot of
14:10 thought doesn't go into it. You know the
14:11 last thing I would say will, some would suggest
14:14 well how did giant, how are there giants then?
14:17 Well, the record in history will establish
14:21 and show can show very clearly that as you go
14:23 back in time, there maybe sometimes where they
14:26 were some very small you know men and women
14:29 during times especially with earth was challenged
14:31 through disasters and other things that happened.
14:33 But some of the record, the fossilized record is
14:36 actually showing that there were some pretty
14:38 tall beings that existed back in time.
14:42 That's right, so you know, that's your lineage
14:44 for example, that's right. You're 6' 9½, 6' 10;
14:49 surely John is from the lineage of Enoch,
14:52 the giants. Surely I'm, I'm not a descendant of
14:55 the daughter of men now. Tribe of Gad,
14:58 remember that, but anyway all jokes aside
15:01 truly friends what we're saying here is
15:04 the creation of men, the creation of man formed
15:09 in the image of God, women taken from the
15:12 side of men. When one goes away, strays away,
15:17 daughters of men, one is called to follow God,
15:21 sons of God, that's simply what that's saying,
15:24 that's the best way to, nothing more than that,
15:25 that's right. Here's another text, they just
15:29 gave me the text and I think that they want
15:30 an answer to this. Please help me understand
15:33 this verse I am a Sabbath keeper and the text
15:37 that they're asking for, matter of fact go
15:39 with us to Colossians 2 verse 16, John this is a,
15:44 this is kind of a, this is a regular,
15:46 common one yup. Yeah this guys shows up a lot.
15:49 We try not to give it as much press as others
15:53 give it, because if we answer this every time
15:55 it came up, we'd answer it in every program,
15:58 every program, almost every program.
16:00 Colossians 2 we're gonna read verse, start with
16:05 verse 14, okay, speaking of Christ and
16:13 not legalism, this particular text by the way
16:16 we're referring to the importance of Christology
16:19 centering our hopes on Christ. But Paul was
16:23 addressing an issue that, that was bordering on
16:26 legalism where people were talking about meats
16:28 and drinks and new moons and Sabbaths.
16:30 And by the way let's go ahead and I'll read
16:32 this together, it says speaking about Christ:
16:36 "Having wiped out the handwriting of
16:38 requirements that was against us, which was
16:41 contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the
16:44 way having nailed it to the cross.
16:48 Having disarmed principalities and powers,
16:53 He made a public spectacle of them,
16:56 triumphing over them in it." So let no one judge
17:00 you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival
17:04 or a new moon or Sabbaths, key part of the verse:
17:09 Which are a shadow of things to come,
17:12 but the substance is of Christ. Now how could
17:17 festivals and new moons and Sabbath be a
17:19 shadow of things to come, this Sabbaths and I think
17:23 that's the focal point of the question,
17:26 a new moon or Sabbaths, meat or drinks.
17:29 If you look at that entire context you'll see the
17:32 Bible talks about a ceremonial system that had
17:36 everything to do with meats and drinks and,
17:39 various washings and carnal ordinances,
17:43 go with me to the book of Hebrews. Hebrews,
17:46 I refer to as the, some people look at Hebrew
17:49 almost as a displaced book, because it has so
17:53 much Old Testament language in it.
17:55 But Hebrews is not a displaced book,
17:58 let's go ahead and I'm gonna read to you verse,
18:03 verse 1 of Hebrews chapter 10, verse 1 of Hebrews
18:10 chapter 10: For the law, having a shadow of good
18:14 things to come, and not the very image of
18:17 those things, can never with these same
18:21 sacrifices, which they continually, which they
18:24 continually year by year, which they offer
18:27 continually year by year make those who
18:29 approach perfect. For then would they have a
18:33 ceased to be offered? For the worshipers,
18:37 once purged, would have had no more
18:40 conscience of sins. But in those sacrifices
18:43 there is a reminder of sins every year,
18:49 every year, in other words. So, the shadow
18:50 involves sacrifices, the shadow involves
18:53 sacrifices, not the moral law of God,
18:54 not the moral law of God. Matter of fact,
18:57 when you look at the ordinances let's go back
18:59 to Hebrews 9, Hebrews 9 and it says,
19:05 now in verse 6, Hebrews 9 verse 6:
19:09 Now when these things had been thus prepared,
19:11 the priests always went into the first part of the
19:14 tabernacle, performing the services.
19:16 But into the second part the high priest went
19:18 alone once a year, not without blood,
19:21 which he offered for himself and for the
19:23 people's sins committed in ignorance.
19:26 The Holy Spirit indicating this, that the way
19:30 into the Holiest of All was not yet made
19:32 manifest while the first tabernacle was
19:35 still standing. And let's look at this verse 10,
19:38 it talks about what these things were,
19:40 it says speaking about these ordinances
19:41 if you look at verse 9: Even the first covenant
19:44 had ordinances of divine service and the
19:46 earthly sanctuary. But verse 10 tells you
19:48 what they stood in concerning only with
19:51 foods or meat as the King James Version
19:53 says and drinks various washings and fleshy or
19:57 carnal ordinances, imposed until the time
20:01 of reformation. Breaking all that down is simply
20:04 this, the Sabbaths that were referred to the,
20:06 they are outlined and let's look at few of those
20:09 Sabbaths, because there are many Sabbaths
20:11 referred to in the Old Testament.
20:13 And by the way these Sabbaths are ceremonial
20:17 observances and but the Bible Sabbath that was
20:21 blessed by God the weekly Seventh-day Sabbath
20:25 was made at the end of creation week before
20:29 sin ever entered the world. Do you wanna
20:31 register on that before we go any further?
20:33 No, the point is very well made and the thing
20:36 I would add is that the ceremonial Sabbaths
20:39 were always referred to by the Lord as
20:40 belonging to Israel, right, where as the
20:44 Seventh-day Sabbath he always referred to
20:45 as being his very own. As the matter of fact
20:47 he referred to the ceremony Sabbaths as
20:49 her Sabbaths in Hosea, right. Her Sabbaths,
20:53 but when he referred to his, he says my Sabbaths,
20:57 but now let's look at some Sabbaths that refer to,
20:59 and by the way the word Sabbath means convocation.
21:03 So, there were many Sabbaths talked about
21:06 in the ceremonial system that had nothing to do
21:08 with the weekly Sabbath that was given at the
21:11 end of creation week. Let's look at Leviticus
21:13 chapter 23 turn your Bibles there,
21:17 Leviticus chapter 23 alright, and we're going
21:21 to see some here. Okay, and I'm turning to that,
21:26 and here we are okay, okay
21:30 Leviticus chapter 23 verse, verse let's start
21:34 with verse 39, I'm gonna jump around
21:37 a little bit here. "Also on the fifteenth day of
21:41 the seventh month, when you have gather in
21:44 the fruit of the land, you shall keep the
21:46 feast of the Lord for seven days;
21:49 when on the first day there shall be a sabbath-rest,
21:54 and on the eighth day a sabbath-rest.
21:58 Notice that, not seventh day, it says first day
22:01 and eighth day, these were ceremonial rituals,
22:06 and notice what he is referring to the feast of
22:08 the Lord. But now let's look at verse 24:
22:12 "Speak to the children of Israel, saying:
22:15 'In the seventh month, on the first day of
22:19 the month, you shall have a sabbath-rest,
22:23 a memorial of blowing of trumpets,
22:25 a holy convocation. And these weren't falling
22:30 always on the seventh day, no it was rare
22:32 in fact, that they did, these were following on
22:35 various days according to whenever that
22:39 like in this case the first day of the month
22:42 in the seventh month fell on.
22:44 Here's another one of verse, verse 32, verse 32:
22:52 It shall be to you a Sabbath of solemn rest,
22:57 you shall afflict your souls; on the ninth day
23:00 of the month at evening, from evening to evening,
23:03 you shall celebrate your Sabbath."
23:05 So you see there when was this,
23:06 the ninth day you have the first day,
23:09 you have the eight day, you have the ninth day,
23:11 you also had the seventh year rest which was
23:15 refer to as a cycle or like a jubilee cycle,
23:18 but here's another one, verse, verse 2,
23:23 well actually verse, Leviticus chapter 25
23:26 verse 2 and verse 4: "Speak to the children of
23:29 Israel, and say to them, When you come into the
23:32 land which I give you, then the land shall keep
23:35 a Sabbath to the Lord, the land now.
23:39 But Mark chapter 2 verse 27 and 28 says,
23:42 the Sabbath was made for man, but here you find
23:45 the land and what that actually meant was
23:47 every seven years when they follow the
23:49 agricultural cycles. In the seventh year
23:53 if I had seven parcels of land, I would let the
23:56 land that I build, that I harvested rest in the
24:00 seventh year. So, that it will replenish itself
24:03 that was the land taking rest. Here's another one
24:06 look at verse 4 of Leviticus chapter 25:
24:11 But in the seventh year there shall be a
24:14 Sabbath of solemn rest for the land,
24:17 a Sabbath to the Lord. You shall neither sow
24:21 your field nor prune your vineyard.
24:24 All these Sabbath rests, these were shadows
24:27 though, of over to come and by the way
24:30 some of the other ones John you had the
24:31 Passover which was the Sabbath rest,
24:34 you have the Feast of Tabernacles as Sabbath
24:36 rest, you have the Feast of Wheat or the
24:39 Wave Sheaf offering, all these were referred
24:41 to as Sabbaths but what do they mean?
24:43 They pointed to the coming of the Messiah,
24:45 and I wind it up by going to the book of Galatians,
24:48 all these things were shadows that's why
24:50 the Bible says Paul was saying let no one judge
24:54 you now in meats and drinks, and new moon,
24:56 and Sabbaths, because the substance has come,
24:59 the substance has come and the
25:01 substance is Christ. That's to whom all these
25:05 ceremonies pointed and here's the point,
25:08 you wanna make a point before I go further.
25:10 No, finish your point. Okay, hear this,
25:13 Galatians 3 verse 19, Galatians 3 verse 19:
25:18 What purpose then does the law serve?
25:22 And catch this: It was added because of
25:26 transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom
25:30 the promise was made; and it was appointed
25:33 through angels by the hand of a mediator.
25:37 Now, these ceremonial rituals were not in the
25:40 beginning when God bless the world at the
25:42 end of creation week, they were added after
25:45 the fall of men, and they were added for a time
25:48 until the seed should come and who is the seed?
25:52 The seed is Christ, alright these were the shadows,
25:55 that's a nutshell of it. Yeah you know Daniel
25:57 also in his prayer, in Daniel 9 talks about these
26:01 two laws that's what he was essentially saying
26:03 here, there are two laws that refer to throughout
26:06 the New Testament and the Old Testament,
26:08 but what happens is when you get to the
26:11 New Testament, it's a little less clear until you
26:15 really dive into the language which law its
26:17 referring to, you know what I'm saying?
26:19 In the Old Testament you really know,
26:20 because the context is there and they are
26:22 clearly talking about the law in its form, right.
26:26 But in New Testament, so many times
26:27 just says law, right, into the law.
26:29 So, we have to go back and link the language of
26:32 the context of the New Testament back to
26:34 the old to see. And if you look in Daniel chapter 9,
26:38 Daniel 9, lets go there, verse 10, okay, and 11,
26:42 you'll see something here that Daniel is praying
26:44 recognizing the two although the bases,
26:49 the reasons for the two laws and he says
26:51 here in verse 10: We have not obeyed,
26:54 speaking to the Lord in his prayer,
26:55 we have not obeyed the voice of the Lord our God
26:58 to walk in His laws, which He has set before us by
27:01 His servants the prophets. Yes, all Israel
27:05 has transgressed Your law, okay, now okay,
27:09 so His law the law of God, and then what is
27:13 happened and has departed so as not to
27:15 obey Your voice; therefore the curse of the oath
27:18 written in the Law of Moses, that's right,
27:20 Moses law, okay that's isn't God's law,
27:23 one refer to His law of Moses the servant of God
27:26 has been poured out on us, because we have
27:28 sinned against Him. So, the reason I bring
27:31 that passage up is because John the law of
27:34 God has always existed, that's right,
27:36 the Ten Commandment law of God has always
27:38 existed, and it's because of the, the people sin
27:42 against that law, that the law of Moses
27:45 and it ceremonies were added to the list of all
27:50 the laws given to the children of Israel, right.
27:53 That's why in the most holy place you had
27:56 the Ark of the Covenant, the covenant being the
28:01 foundation of His plan of salvation and the
28:04 Ten Commandment law that resides in that
28:06 Ark of the Covenant, that's right.
28:08 Then you have the Law of Moses which they
28:09 placed outside of the Ark against it as a witness,
28:13 a testimony against the children of Israel on the
28:15 side to testify to them that they broke
28:18 the foundational law of God.
28:21 So, as Paul is coming back here in Colossians 2
28:24 what he is saying to the people here in the
28:25 church is, some of you are fighting about going
28:28 back to this Law of Moses, and the ceremony
28:31 specifically the ceremonies that were added
28:33 because of the laws you transgressed
28:36 God's commandment you transgressed.
28:39 But when Christ went to the cross he nailed
28:42 those ceremonies, He fulfilled all those things
28:44 and He put them on the cross along with the
28:47 reality of the sacrifice Himself.
28:50 And from here going forward by faith we
28:52 trust in Jesus, who has accomplished those things
28:56 for us, yet it doesn't change the standing of
28:58 the moral law of God, the Ten Commandments.
29:00 No it doesn't. And so Paul is saying here
29:03 nothing to do about the Ten Commandments,
29:04 but the law of the ceremonies of the
29:06 sanctuary, and the sacrifices that they point
29:10 to Christ, and so people throw out
29:13 what you call the baby with the bath water
29:15 they say oh! This is all the Law of God;
29:17 this is the Ten Commandments not so,
29:18 right. The reference here clearly is to
29:21 the Law of Moses specifically with regard
29:23 to the ceremonies. And so if you followed the
29:25 shadow which is the tail of the actual image,
29:28 why would you need the shadow when you
29:30 get to the image, that's right.
29:32 You don't need the shadow any longer,
29:34 the ceremony of the lamb that was slain
29:36 in the Old Testament referred to the lamb
29:38 Christ Jesus, that's why when Jesus was crucified
29:41 the lamb, the physical little lamb that was
29:44 about to be killed was set free,
29:45 because the lamb of God Jesus
29:47 was the one that has given His life.
29:49 When the high priest, when the, the temple
29:52 curtains were torn from top to bottom bringing
29:55 to end the earthly high priest function,
29:57 because Jesus now become the higher priest,
30:00 all those were shadows. The Candelabra,
30:04 the seven golden candlesticks,
30:05 pointing to Jesus the light of the world.
30:08 The Laver which was water pointed to Jesus,
30:11 the water of life. The table of Showbread
30:14 pointed to Jesus, the bread of life,
30:16 why do we need to go back to that Showbread
30:18 after Jesus comes when we got the bread of life
30:20 right among us, that's right.
30:22 See, so that's what it's saying all these were
30:24 shadows of things and they were all encroached,
30:26 and all the observances were encroached in
30:28 something called Sabbaths plural,
30:31 that's why you find meats, drinks, holidays,
30:34 holy days, new moons and sabbath days that's
30:37 what you find. Let me give them
30:38 one more text and some of you like to write down
30:39 text and I'm not gonna read this one but you
30:41 like to write them down compares specifically
30:44 Colossians 2:14 and 16 with 1 Chronicles 23:31,
30:51 okay. Do your own research,
30:53 I want you to compare those two and see what
30:55 Paul possibly could be referring to in this
30:58 passage as you go back to 1 Chronicles 23:31,
31:01 okay, alright, good. Wow, we covered some pretty
31:06 good questions here today, some of that required
31:08 sometime. But thank you for your questions
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31:25 Well, we're gonna continue in relationships
31:30 John we started by laying the foundation,
31:31 looking back in the Garden of Eden when God bless
31:35 the earth with a man and a woman.
31:37 Pastor C.A once said he says:
31:42 we all have different mothers,
31:43 but we have the same father.
31:45 Now, when you think about that,
31:47 Adam is our father, Eve is the original
31:50 mother right, but what he in essence is saying
31:53 we're all have the Lord as our God,
31:56 but in the earth the gift that God has given be
32:00 fruitful and multiply, and replenish the earth.
32:05 So, a lot of people nowadays and you
32:07 kind of a tongue-in-cheek say you're my brother
32:10 from another mother. You know, you heard that
32:13 phrase before? Yeah, yeah,
32:14 my brother from another mother.
32:15 But we talked about how important it is not to
32:19 get caught up in the ethereal transient things
32:22 that people think are the foundation of
32:25 relationships. You know if I brought some
32:28 shingles to your house to put on the roof,
32:30 and I didn't lay a foundation,
32:32 didn't put walls up, didn't have anything
32:33 to put on there you'll say what's,
32:35 what's that all about? Well, I don't want it to
32:37 rain on you when it rains where is the rest of
32:40 it you see? And many people start from
32:42 the top instead of from the bottom, yeah.
32:44 So, let's look at some of these things, alright.
32:46 Let's do that, we're talking about
32:47 relationships now and I, you know naturally when
32:50 you go back to relationships,
32:51 you've got to start with the marriage
32:53 relationship which is where we began here in the
32:56 last program. And then as we move forward here
32:58 to talk about the marriage relationship I
33:00 think one of the things we covered is,
33:01 how can a marriage become not just a marriage but
33:04 a great marriage? What kind of things do
33:07 you need to do, we talked about
33:08 some things leading up to marriage.
33:09 You know how you're coding them and making sure
33:13 that your mind is working, not just your
33:15 emotions, that's right. You're trusting the Lord,
33:17 you are saying Lord if this isn't meant to be I'm
33:19 okay with you ending this relationship early.
33:22 I think John you made the comment it's better
33:24 to cry now than later, that's right.
33:26 So there are lots of things we saw as far as
33:28 leading up to marriage and what to look for,
33:29 and making sure that you are compatible,
33:31 having some counseling that you go through making
33:34 sure that you are compatible in other ways,
33:35 not just your belief system.
33:37 But, now we're getting to, we are starting to
33:40 talk to those who are married,
33:41 and how do you stay married?
33:43 How do you make your marriage an effective
33:45 marriage, one that is successful that honors God
33:48 and gives Him glory? And there are several
33:50 things that we haven't talked about yet that we
33:52 would like to do. But one of them that we
33:54 did mention was that you never stop coding your
33:58 spouse, that's right. You do those things
34:01 that let them know that you are thinking
34:03 about them. I think come on guys,
34:05 one of the biggest knocks on us is we far too few
34:09 times do we ever let them know in someway
34:13 whether be flowers, little gifts something that
34:15 we were thinking about them that day.
34:18 We just, we're not wired, when our spouse,
34:23 my wife comes to me and says John,
34:26 I was thinking about you today.
34:27 I'm thinking cool, you know hope they
34:29 were good thoughts. But if I say to her, honey,
34:34 my day was busy but I was thinking about you
34:37 today. She goes really; it's more to her that
34:42 means more to her, because she operates
34:45 from an emotional connection perspective,
34:48 it's a oneness she has with me,
34:50 and she wants to know that I'm thinking about her
34:52 more than I care about that,
34:54 yes it's important that my wife thinks about me,
34:56 but it doesn't make me melt,
34:58 what makes me melt, you should melt John,
35:00 what makes me melt is when she dresses up really
35:03 pretty and she looks great.
35:04 And I'm in love with her more than by the way
35:07 that she is pretty, but she does things
35:09 in a way that appeals to me that wow she really,
35:13 she is dressing up so she can attract me that's
35:15 something I'm visual, you know we are
35:17 visual beings. And so we just operate on
35:20 different levels, and we have to recognize
35:22 that in our marriage because then they
35:24 will know, they will sense that we do care about
35:27 them and love them. You know people get
35:30 married a lot of times and they forget what
35:32 really got that spark going.
35:35 And I always say it this way,
35:36 some people when they first meet they are face
35:39 to face when they, when they start living,
35:41 when they get married they are back to back,
35:43 they look in different directions.
35:45 Remember face to face is the most important
35:47 thing, when a person make eye contact with you
35:50 and you, it's impossible to smile,
35:53 I always did this exercise when I'm
35:55 doing seminars. I always say smile
35:57 as much as you can say to somebody I really hate
36:00 you, I really do, I mean you wouldn't take
36:02 them seriously, yeah, this really doesn't work
36:04 or you frown and say I really love you.
36:08 Try to just make it as more bitterness,
36:11 unpleasant as possible, lets say I love you,
36:14 I don't believe a word of that.
36:15 You see, but connect them together,
36:18 and a lot of times people forget that it is when
36:21 the thoughts are not guarded,
36:23 that the relationship starts being chiseled
36:26 apart, did you get that?
36:27 It's not just the nice things, the flowers and
36:29 spending time together, but when the thoughts
36:32 are not guarded and when the thoughts are not
36:35 invested on each other, then the chiseling or
36:38 the erosion in the relationship begin.
36:40 And trust breaks down, yeah, and you know what
36:42 it's not always thoughts on other,
36:44 another man or another woman,
36:46 but sometimes people become workaholics,
36:48 or very career minded or some others put all
36:53 their attention on their children.
36:54 And the father feels like one of the children and
36:57 then father is told to call his wife mom in the
37:01 presence of the kids, so he calls her mamma.
37:04 I've heard this is ridiculous;
37:06 parents have done that to try to condition their
37:09 children to call the mother mamma.
37:11 And then mothers you hear them say,
37:13 the dad say well call me papa.
37:15 So, you know she say papa and she's calling her
37:18 husband papa, and I've heard older
37:20 people doing this, and I said how long
37:22 you guys are married? 61 years,
37:24 why are you still calling your husband papa,
37:26 when the kids have grown up and moved away?
37:28 Yeah, they did that when they were children and
37:30 what it does? It tends to chisel away
37:33 at the intimacy, yeah, that God intends
37:36 for wife and husband to have,
37:37 one principle I'll show you the scripture here.
37:40 Love your children, be in love with your mate,
37:43 don't be in love with your children?
37:45 Right, some people are in love with
37:47 their children. Love your children,
37:50 but be in love with your mate, your husband,
37:52 or your wife, or your husband,
37:54 your mate is first. Right, your mate is first,
37:56 you know the children came along,
37:59 you have to mold them and shape them,
38:00 and don't, another point is don't seek to be your
38:03 children's best friend, but be the best friend
38:06 of your husband or wife, right.
38:08 You have to be the parent of the children,
38:10 they may not like what you, how you parent?
38:12 But here's a few text to guard your heart,
38:15 to guard your thoughts. I like that,
38:18 don't let your senses trap you,
38:21 because it could happen, alright here's one.
38:24 Proverbs 23 verse 7: For as he thinketh in
38:29 his heart, so is he. Right, and I must say,
38:32 the more you think about the more you become
38:34 what you are thinking about.
38:35 That's right, yeah, you know I one of the little
38:37 things, let's do some practical, okay.
38:39 We've done counseling before, we've experience
38:42 the stuff and you many more years than I have
38:44 but think about this let's say that you're tired
38:50 of your wife telling you what to do.
38:53 And you start getting this attitude she's really
38:56 controlling, she is just a controlling person,
39:00 the more I think about her being a controlling
39:03 person I start to look that everything she does
39:05 how controlling it is. Right, all of a sudden
39:07 you put, and another thing for her just telling
39:09 me to pick up my underwear off the floor.
39:12 By the way I don't usually have to be told
39:14 to do that, but little things like this,
39:17 you know put your books away,
39:19 you know clean up the office is really kind,
39:22 your side of the office is really,
39:23 I'm just giving you some examples, for example,
39:25 the more I hear maybe some of those suggestions
39:28 from my wife, rather than thinking them as okay
39:30 honey I love too, you know sorry about that.
39:32 And having a loving interaction I think she
39:35 is really controlling, and I start to
39:37 dwell on that, and then I start disliking her
39:40 for being so controlling, or fighting back,
39:42 and we're fighting back and I become controlling.
39:44 And these things stream roll,
39:46 they start innocently or maybe not so innocently,
39:49 but they start intentionally or
39:51 and then they become intentional, yeah,
39:54 like a war, and destroys relationship,
39:56 little things like that, right, and it's amazing
39:58 what can happen. Let's talk about and
40:00 sometimes the reason why it's important to guard
40:02 your thoughts that scripture says:
40:04 For as he thinks in his heart, so is he.
40:07 Make sure that you know what your spouse said
40:10 because sometimes especially in a heated
40:13 moment, and I teach couples about active
40:15 listening, and how to ask for what you want,
40:19 and know that you're going to get it,
40:20 as compared to passive listening.
40:23 Some of us are passive in our listening;
40:25 we would listen long enough for that person to
40:27 stop what he or she says,
40:29 so that we could respond.
40:31 You know we're waiting, we think about the
40:32 next thing we wanna say. You know, we wanna,
40:34 we wanna come back just like tit for tat,
40:37 instead of listening and say am I hearing you
40:41 say you know a lot of times we do that to
40:44 strangers. I once said to a person if he was to
40:47 treat each other like you treat strangers then
40:49 you would have a great relationship,
40:50 because we always put our best foot forward when
40:52 we meet strangers. But here's the key don't
40:55 read into something more than as being said that
40:59 is a real big part of the chiseling away of
41:02 relationships, because somebody may say whatever
41:07 they say, and the person would say,
41:09 are you calling me fat? Yeah, yeah, no,
41:14 I'm just saying I don't like the way that
41:16 dress fits you. And I may not have
41:17 used the exact perfect words, right,
41:19 you don't want to read into the motives I think
41:21 is what we're saying. I know one,
41:23 Rochelle has done this a seminar,
41:25 she recently did it on thinking things through
41:28 clearly. And she uses the text in
41:31 Philippians 4 verse 8 where it says:
41:34 Finally, my brethren, whatever things are true,
41:36 and it goes on to say some other things think on
41:39 these things, she spends just time on true.
41:42 And in other words if someone is saying
41:45 something I don't wanna think something that's
41:46 not true. So, sometimes I need to ask
41:49 clarification what you're saying before I assume
41:51 something, because after when I assume something
41:53 I'm assuming something that's not true, right.
41:55 And that's what you're saying you know,
41:57 you are saying I'm fat, I didn't say that I may
42:00 have pick the better words but I'm not
42:01 saying that. They are thinking something that's
42:03 not true that you have said something that you
42:06 didn't say. I call it the avalanche, very true.
42:10 When you think something that's not true it
42:12 avalanches, we use a phrase snowball,
42:15 but I like the word avalanche better because
42:16 the snowball sometimes has to pick up momentum,
42:18 but in some cases it's true.
42:20 Avalanche, you just self destruct.
42:22 Oh! You don't love me anymore,
42:24 and you know we have people that come for
42:26 counseling and I think what was the problem,
42:28 what he said to me, what did he say?
42:30 And then the guy and sometimes let me just put
42:34 it in context, sometimes it's other way
42:35 around what the wife said to her husband,
42:37 not just also what, always with the husband
42:40 not just also what, always with the
42:41 husband says to the wife.
42:42 So, the key point here is whatever,
42:43 whatever is being said by your spouse make sure
42:45 that you hear and understand what is
42:47 being said clarify and address the issue,
42:50 and when you have a problem don't ever say.
42:53 If somebody says and this is the trap,
42:55 what's the problem? I mean that right away
42:57 says you are the problem. You know,
42:59 what happens if you go to a dentist John and
43:01 he says you are the toothache,
43:03 well how do you get rid of the toothache?
43:04 You get rid off you, instead of saying you
43:07 have a toothache, I always say whenever
43:10 there is a challenge in a marriage say we,
43:12 we have a problem, we need to find a solution,
43:16 we are in debt, we have lost our way,
43:20 we need to build a stronger relationship,
43:23 its a we. You know and there is other,
43:25 there are two sides to this too,
43:26 and there is different ways we can say,
43:28 so we say it a lot of different ways,
43:29 and hope that maybe it clicks with some.
43:32 But one other way of saying this is,
43:33 we've got to be careful that we're not saying
43:36 things that are offensive, that are offending
43:38 our spouse. Oh! Yeah, but we also need to make
43:41 sure that we're not deliberately being
43:43 offended. You can go around offending somebody
43:47 but that you can go also around that someone
43:50 who is constantly offended.
43:51 Offense can do that, and so I don't want to go
43:54 around looking to be you know who's gonna offend
43:56 me next, and look for the things that offend you,
44:00 because that just makes it worse.
44:01 And that works in relationship even outside
44:03 of marriage, and I think you are making that
44:04 implementation there. Yeah, absolutely,
44:06 you know the other thing to you say it guard
44:08 your thoughts, the other way of doing that
44:10 is think about what you're thinking about,
44:11 that's right. Somebody said think about what you
44:14 are thinking about, in another words just
44:15 I can't tell you there is some that just you've
44:20 talked to them individually,
44:21 try to counsel them. And they just,
44:24 they are talking, talking, talking, talking,
44:25 talking, and I went to visit this one girl
44:28 speaking of, you know someone,
44:29 it's not a marriage issue,
44:30 but I went to visit her, because she had gone
44:33 through Bible studies and really you know
44:35 honestly 6, 7 different Bible studies on the same
44:40 kind of stuff. And I was wondering
44:42 if she's to make a decision for the Lord,
44:44 so I went to visit her with the person who was
44:46 doing Bible studies, and I sat down at the table.
44:49 And I, there from the moment I went in that door
44:51 she did not stop talking for about 20 minutes,
44:57 and the next subject. And I try to jump in
44:59 a couple of time, she just kept talking,
45:00 was the buzz saw, and I'm thinking I'm
45:05 starting to conclude she doesn't want to hear,
45:06 she wants to just talk. And so sometimes we have
45:09 to think about how others might perceive us,
45:12 what are we really saying, are we constantly
45:15 talking, are we constantly saying things that
45:17 offend others, or are we constantly defending
45:20 ourselves, are we constantly talking?
45:22 Let's start thinking about what we're thinking
45:23 about and not allow those offenses,
45:26 those damaging things that we can say in our
45:30 relationships occur. Some people are socially
45:33 starved and so the reason why they take seven
45:35 series of the same lessons because it guarantees
45:40 somebody is gonna be in their space that they
45:42 can talk to, which they use it
45:44 as a method to communicate,
45:45 but they have so much to say.
45:47 I know people that sometimes come from
45:49 really, really quiet homes, when they get out
45:52 in public they are very vocal and,
45:53 you know just out there outlandish,
45:56 because they very, they are in a quiet
45:58 guarded atmosphere sometimes,
46:00 so you don't get chance to talk very,
46:01 very much. But here's another one guarding
46:04 your thoughts, another one Exodus 20 verse 17,
46:07 this is the context of the marriage and by the
46:09 way John this one applies broader than just what
46:11 it says: "Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's
46:14 wife," covet, the word covet.
46:18 Because there are some women that covet thy
46:20 neighbor's husband and there are some men that
46:23 covet thy neighbor's wife which means who is your
46:27 neighbor anybody that's not you.
46:28 Okay, yeah, so be content, be content and work
46:34 on your own garden you see.
46:37 So, that whole thing about coveting what is,
46:40 what is not yours, and by the way you can't covet
46:43 what already is yours, and you can't get outside
46:47 of a relationship where God ordained to be only
46:50 in a relationship. So, coveting is another part
46:53 one. You know, you almost wonder if coveting the
46:56 things you already have might be a good thing
46:58 because it brings contentment.
47:01 I think sometimes maybe a man if he's not pleased
47:07 with his wife, he fails to realize how desirable
47:12 she could be to many other men.
47:15 And yet she is not desirable to him,
47:17 that's right, so you know you have these
47:19 situations were he doesn't covet her anymore,
47:21 although she is his wife. He doesn't admire her.
47:24 He doesn't admire her anymore,
47:26 but he doesn't even want her,
47:27 that's why we use the word covet,
47:28 I mean covet is a bad word, but I'm just saying
47:30 that if we would be more content or covet the
47:33 very things that we have and be content with
47:35 that, or jealous of your their own wife,
47:36 jealous of their own wife,
47:37 and not in the bad way but just wanting her
47:39 with him, just for me, that she,
47:42 he wouldn't be so willing to just discard her.
47:46 There are so many other men that would love to
47:48 have a relationship with my wife,
47:50 I'm privileged to have the relationship with my
47:53 wife. That's a very good analogy,
47:55 I said that to my wife one Sabbath morning,
47:59 and this has happened on number of occasions,
48:00 sometimes I stand back and I teach husbands,
48:02 sometime stand back and look at your wife.
48:06 And look at her the way you looked at her years
48:09 ago when you first admire her and just really
48:11 and one day Angie said to me,
48:15 why you're looking at me that way?
48:16 I said honey I'm admiring you, because if I don't
48:22 somebody else will and I don't want to even
48:24 think of that thought, that's right,
48:25 I'm admiring you. And she said but you
48:27 are making me uncomfortable,
48:28 I said well I have the license to make you
48:30 uncomfortable, that's right, you see,
48:32 so because there are other men when you feel to
48:34 realize the great gift that God has placed in
48:36 your hand, people start coveting when you
48:41 neglect. And you know what the natural,
48:43 the natural human being let's use this broad and
48:47 I'm using this and everybody wants to be
48:48 appreciated, this is broader than just a
48:51 marriage relationship. When people don't feel
48:53 that they are being appreciated,
48:54 they're gonna seek someway of getting that
48:57 appreciation, that's right. Even the child who
49:01 starts behaving badly in school because it gets
49:03 them attention at home, because it's the only
49:05 time the mom and dad sits down and takes them out
49:07 to dinner and talks to them.
49:09 You see, so the relationship you are
49:10 talking about here are broader than just you know
49:12 marriage with husband and wife.
49:14 I like Proverbs 4:23, okay.
49:18 Keep thy heart with all diligence,
49:20 for out of it are the issues of life.
49:21 Oh! You know what that means?
49:23 You know so, you know you got
49:24 to keep your heart and your affections toward
49:27 your wife, because if you start to look elsewhere
49:29 then you start to be drawing elsewhere where
49:32 you are gonna go, eventually you are gonna
49:34 choose the elsewhere. Yesterday I saw something
49:37 that really illustrates this text very well,
49:39 I saw a husband and wife they were at the
49:40 Wal-Mart and keep the heart with all diligence,
49:46 for out of it are the issues of life.
49:49 And I would use this illustration,
49:50 sometimes people say, well sticks and stones
49:53 may break my bones, but words will never
49:55 harm me. I had a little tongue tie there;
49:57 you know words do harm people.
49:59 People say that words will never harm me,
50:01 this guy had on the t-shirt,
50:02 he's outside talking, here to children,
50:05 his wife was with him, he had on the T-shirt
50:07 with an arrow pointing towards her and it
50:10 probably it says I'm with idiot.
50:13 Oh! No, and I said to my wife,
50:16 can you imagine that guy wearing that shirt and
50:20 his wife would actually go to the store with him.
50:22 She's probably weaving to just try and mask the
50:25 hurt, chuckle at it or something,
50:27 but it's hurtful. Everywhere he walks
50:30 with her, the arrow is pointing to her,
50:33 I'm with idiot and that's out of the issue and
50:38 the joke. That's not a joke,
50:40 but that's an issue of life, he essence,
50:43 he in essence something motivated him to buy that
50:47 shirt, something motivated him to
50:48 wear that shirt. And he wants to
50:50 make it so clear to everybody outside of his
50:52 home that he thinks of his spouse as an idiot,
50:56 and she bears that, instead of saying I
50:58 refuse to go anywhere with you with that shirt,
51:01 stand your ground because for what maybe a joke
51:05 between the two of you will be perceived as your
51:08 husband or your wife just really,
51:10 really degrading you and then what happens is,
51:13 when that day comes to an end is like so where,
51:17 whatever happened to your idiot? Who?
51:20 Your wife, you keep wearing that shirt
51:22 pointing to her, those are the kind of tags that
51:24 we don't need to have on each other, no.
51:26 But, now let's talk about this part John what
51:29 happens when you're angry, how long should you
51:31 hold on to your anger, that's a good one?
51:35 Yeah, enough to, I say long enough to make sure
51:38 that you have established your rights.
51:43 Okay, obviously you didn't mean, I'm kidding,
51:45 obviously he didn't get that from the Bible,
51:48 but that was a pun, you know,
51:50 I know I say that because that's what people
51:52 are thinking, right, yeah, you know I mean
51:56 how dare they? Yeah, I've a friend of
51:59 mine who knows how to hold the grudge,
52:02 he did real well? Oh! Yeah,
52:05 and he will not talk to you for X amount of
52:08 time and all the sudden he will be okay, yeah.
52:11 But he holds on with his anger, he's upset.
52:13 Is like a clogged drain, it takes a long time
52:16 to go down, yeah. But you know think about it,
52:18 when you're living with your spouse and you're
52:21 doing things like that you're holding on
52:22 your anger, you're not talking to him,
52:24 you just shut them out, how much damage can
52:26 that do in such a quick period of time?
52:29 The same type of damage you can do to your sink,
52:32 can you imagine your sink is clogged and nothing
52:35 can go down, but you still keep putting more
52:37 dirt, more shavings, more toothpaste you know
52:41 spitting into the sink and it just all getting is
52:43 putrefying because you refuse to get rid of that
52:46 issue that's clogging up your relationship, yeah.
52:48 And this is what, this text means I believe
52:51 Ephesians 4 verse 26: Let not the sun go down
52:55 on your wrath, well that applies so much I know
52:58 I've had couples that have said.
53:03 And I'm not picking on anyone,
53:05 but this is kind of more true to women that
53:07 sometimes get emotional. She hasn't spoken to
53:09 me all week, she has ignored me all week,
53:14 she got upset with me on Sunday,
53:15 it's Friday night she hasn't spoken to me
53:17 all week. What about dinner?
53:19 Oh! She gives me dinner, but she doesn't say a
53:20 single thing, she just drops it in front of me
53:22 and walks away. How can you go through
53:24 the day and you know what that,
53:27 that also goes to next what, you give place to
53:29 the devil, you see and it chisels away so much.
53:32 And so at the end of the week what do you say?
53:35 Okay, I'm finally gonna set you free,
53:37 what have you have done you punished your spouse
53:40 so much to the point where that silence has
53:42 become almost a form of abuse rather than sitting
53:46 down and talking about it, and admitting the
53:48 place where you all had the problem.
53:49 And the sun going down on your wrath,
53:51 it doesn't mean don't let your wrath in, right.
53:54 It means that don't let the night come without
53:56 dealing with it face to face and asking for
53:59 forgiveness or saying you sorry or at least
54:01 talking through the issue, because we've all been
54:04 there, I have done it gone to bed being upset
54:08 and turn out the light and just fall asleep and
54:11 not deal with it. And you wake up in
54:12 the morning and what happens,
54:13 you continue right on, because you went
54:15 to bed upset, you continue on being upset.
54:18 You've got to deal with the issue and usually
54:21 that issue is within ourselves and you
54:24 know one of thing, I think that comes into
54:26 play here John is the use of humility.
54:30 I think, if both parties to a marriage,
54:34 both spouses were more humbled,
54:37 I think they would, they have so much more an
54:41 easier time at least dealing with issues and
54:43 stuff, because it says a lot to go up to your
54:46 spouse and say I was wrong, right,
54:49 I'm sorry you didn't may not have appreciate the
54:54 way I interpreted something you did or
54:56 said but I have no, no reason to act like that.
54:59 And I was wrong. I was, I said things hurtful,
55:01 and you know, that takes humility.
55:03 Oh it sure does. But it takes strength
55:05 and its strength of the Lord that makes you
55:07 humble. And try also, when you have contention
55:12 do the thing, the humble thing, pray.
55:18 First you may want to pray if there's a
55:20 contention, say Lord give me a humble spirit,
55:22 so that I can approach my wife or my husband
55:25 and say honey, I'm sorry, let's pray, let's pray.
55:30 Now pray, let's pray together,
55:33 and let's work this thing out.
55:35 Now there are some people that are just so into
55:38 themselves that they do everything they can to
55:40 hold on to the anger as it continues to destroy
55:43 their relationship. But you know keep Christ at
55:45 the center of your home, don't go to bed with
55:47 that thought of anger continuing,
55:49 guard your thoughts and don't let your senses
55:51 trap you, pray together. And here's one that I
55:55 think is a cardinal sin in many relationships is
55:58 people get so angry, they utter the word divorce.
56:02 My wife and I, 26 years, we have never once
56:05 mentioned the word divorce.
56:07 We haven't neither. Praise the Lord.
56:08 Because we decided initially that we would
56:10 never even utter the word, it's not even an
56:11 option, it's not an option, not an option.
56:13 But some people say you know if you don't like it
56:16 leave or hit the road or I'm done with you,
56:19 I don't love you anymore, and those are
56:21 hurtful things. Would you take your
56:23 little poodle who has just soiled the carpet,
56:27 open the front door hold it like a football and
56:29 kick it outside. People wouldn't treat
56:32 their animals that way, yet we forget the
56:34 greatest gift God has given to us is our mate.
56:36 And some times we treat them worse then we would
56:39 to an animal. Yeah. So we have more
56:41 to cover in upcoming programs.
56:43 Would you, and I think the point that we're
56:44 making here as we're wrapping up this segment
56:46 is that is so important to make sure that the
56:48 Lord is with us and everything we do in our
56:51 relationship, He designed marriage,
56:53 He create marriage, He brought marriage,
56:54 two people together to make them one,
56:56 and the moment we start operating,
56:58 you know with a pompous attitude or being angry
57:02 and not being humble and everything then we're
57:05 walking out of the Spirit, we're walking in the
57:06 flesh, and we're destroying our marriages.
57:09 We've got to get back with the Lord and let him
57:11 mold and shape us to the point where the relation
57:14 can begin to function as God designed it to.
57:16 That's right. You know friends when the Bible
57:18 says I can do all things through Christ who
57:20 strengthens me. It means husband,
57:23 wife, mother, father, son, daughter, children
57:26 and parents. Let Christ be the central focus of
57:29 your life and you will be able to see that,
57:30 it can happen. Begin today,
57:32 have a great day in Christ. Amen.


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