Participants: Pr. William Lee (Host), Brandon Dent, Colin King PhD, Stephen Barber
Series Code: FGO
Program Code: FGO000015
00:01 Hi, welcome to "For Guys Only."
00:02 A program designed to speak to the needs of the urban man. 00:06 I'm, Pastor William Lee, 00:07 and today we have a very exciting 00:09 and interesting topic. 00:11 Today the title of our program is 00:13 "As For Me And My House." 00:15 Stay tuned as we go into today's broadcast. 00:32 Gentlemen, it's so good to see each one of you 00:34 all again today for another broadcast, 00:37 as always we always have very interesting 00:39 and provocative discussions. 00:41 And today, I believe you'll be no different at all. 00:44 But before we get into this I just want to you know, 00:45 there are viewers, audience now today who we have with us. 00:49 And so I just want to kind of introduce ourselves today. 00:51 So I'll start right here with, Stephen, 00:53 kind of let everybody who you are 00:55 and little bit about yourself. 00:56 Okay, Well, my name is Stephen Barber, 00:58 I'm the Lake Region Conference Ministry Director, 01:01 owner, entrepreneur owner of S&B seasonings 01:05 and executive chef. 01:08 All right, very good, Dr. King. 01:10 My name is Colin King, 01:11 I'm a father of two, husband of one. 01:16 I'm also a trained clinical psychologist 01:19 and I'm happy to be here on the show today. 01:21 All right, all right, very good. 01:23 Hi, my name is Brandon Dent, 01:24 I am a retired automotive executive 01:28 and now I'm running my own marketing firm 01:31 and I have two grown sons and a teenage daughter at home. 01:36 I've been married for 27 years now. 01:38 Okay, very good, and I'm Pastor William Lee. 01:41 I pastor at Lake Region Conference 01:42 of Seventh-day Adventist and happily married. 01:45 I have two boys, six year old as well as a 18 month old. 01:49 So as always we're very excited to get start today. 01:52 Hey, as we get started today, let's have a word of prayer 01:55 and just kind of jump right into our topic right now. 01:57 So let's pray. 01:58 Father God, we thank You 02:00 for the time that we have today. 02:01 I ask God that Your spirit will bless us 02:03 and bless our viewers even now for we ask you in, Jesus' name. 02:06 Amen. Amen. 02:08 We always kind of start off guys, 02:09 with a biblical foundation. 02:11 We always want to have a text 02:12 that kind of springboard us forward for our discussion. 02:15 So and our text is again, 02:17 as our title is "As For Me and My House" 02:19 the Bible says in Joshua 24:15, 02:23 Bible says "And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, 02:27 choose you this day whom ye will serve, 02:30 whether the gods of your fathers served 02:32 that were on the other side of the flood, 02:34 or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell," 02:38 but Joshua says "but as for me and my house, 02:42 we will serve the Lord." 02:45 What an awesome declaration that Joshua makes that, 02:49 listen we're not going to serve any other god, 02:51 but Joshua says that my household 02:53 is going to serve the Lord. 02:56 That's right. I love that about Joshua. 02:58 You know, as we get our discussions today clearly 03:01 you know, roles are need to be out lined, 03:04 a man's role in the home 03:07 and the man's role in the home needs to clarified. 03:09 You know, there are so many issues as relates to, 03:13 you know, men being present in the home 03:15 and anyway that you know being outside of the home as well. 03:18 But kind of help us out today guys, 03:20 you know, there are some challenges 03:22 especially that's relates to men leading out in the home, 03:25 whether it be, you know, taming allowing certain 03:27 you know, terror practices in the home, 03:29 whether they are not doing family devotions in the home, 03:33 that is a plethora of issues that's relates to, 03:36 I want to serve the Lord in my house 03:37 and the your children say you know, what? 03:39 Well, I want to do other things 03:40 is other things that I want to do 03:42 and I want to serve the Lord you know, later on. 03:44 What position do we take as Christian men, 03:48 'cause we all, we all are Christian men, 03:50 what position do we take as Christian name 03:52 to set you know, the standard for our home 03:55 in leading our families in the way 03:58 that God wants us to lead them? 04:00 That's gonna put up for Union boss to answer right now. 04:03 I think it's important to setup, 04:04 set this topic up a little bit. 04:08 Joshua lived in a time when 04:13 you know, the wife, the wife or wives 04:17 did not have a whole the lot of sway. 04:20 They didn't have a say, 04:21 they were held to be obedient in the home 04:25 and a wife that was too out of control 04:27 could by law be stoned. 04:30 Children that were disrespectable 04:32 they could be stoned. 04:34 So he had a lot backing up his ability to stand up 04:39 and make that that declaration 04:43 and do it with resolution. 04:46 Men, the challenge for the men today 04:49 is that I think we are still held responsible 04:52 for the spiritual direction 04:54 of the family we're still priests, 04:57 but we can't necessarily make a grown woman, 05:02 a spouse okay, do anything even good, 05:08 if we force the issue, 05:10 it could actually become a criminal, okay. 05:13 So now we're caught in this challenging place 05:16 in between wanting to do the role 05:21 that God has playing it-- placed us in 05:24 as spiritual leaders of the home 05:26 and the limitations 05:28 that our culture, society and our laws 05:32 placed on us in that effort. 05:35 So, Okay, Okay, if you had any other thoughts 05:38 as what he said? 05:39 Yes. 05:41 Well, we think about Elijah 05:42 and the time period that he was in. 05:43 Well, he actually made a bold statement 05:45 like you have said earlier, that "as for me and my house." 05:48 So he's saying I'm making this decision 05:51 that me and my house, we're going to serve the Lord 05:54 and when I think about 05:56 everything that they went through in that time period, 05:59 everything that they've, they've come across, 06:01 all the influence they've run into, 06:02 it was a very, very bold statement to say, 06:06 because people at that point and time were on fence. 06:09 They were saying, well, 06:11 you know, we can serve this guy, 06:12 we can be influenced this way you know, 06:13 we can sway back and fourth 06:15 and, still remember the gods of our fathers. 06:17 But we're not serving them whole hearted 06:19 and what Joshua had to do, 06:21 Joshua was one of the men that were alive, 06:24 it was something that we have to remember to, 06:25 Joshua was one of the men that were allowed to live 06:28 pass that generational point 06:31 that, that, declaration that Moses got 06:33 when they had worshiped the golden calf. 06:35 It was Caleb and Joshua those were the only two 06:38 that lived past their 40 years. 06:40 So he had that firm foundation 06:42 and has seen everything that they had come across, 06:45 in the, on the land of, in the wilderness. 06:48 So he was chosen leader, he just had the book backup 06:51 and say, God is the one that took us through, 06:54 God is the one that's caring us through. 06:56 So, as for me and my house, you do what you want, 06:59 but as for me and my house we're going to serve the Lord. 07:02 A decision needs to be made right here, 07:04 I'm standing, right here. 07:05 As the man of the house, he was saying that, 07:09 this is the direction that we need to be in, 07:12 this is the direction we need to go in 07:14 and even what Brandon Dent was saying, 07:16 oh I'm sorry Mr. Dent was saying that, 07:19 I know, I know, that's my fault. 07:21 Oh it's okay. 07:22 Well, he was saying about starting a household 07:25 or getting evolved with the household. 07:27 All of this should have been planned and outlined 07:29 before you even took your vows 07:31 to say that, to see that 07:33 the women respect you as a decision maker. 07:35 Does the, does the wife or spouse respect you 07:39 and know you well enough to be priest of the house, 07:41 provider of the house and protector of the house. 07:43 You know, she's giving herself 07:45 and everything that she's encompassing over to you, 07:48 the father is giving you know, that over to you 07:50 that's why you know, we with the father 07:52 gives her away in the wedding, 07:53 because he in trusting you to his daughter, 07:54 but now when daughters are making that decision as well. 07:57 You know, they have to see that 07:58 so they're moving forward 08:01 all of that has to be considered to say that, 08:04 yes as for me and my house we are going to serve the Lord. 08:07 Okay, Okay, now help me out guys 08:11 as Joshua makes this, 08:12 you know, he makes this bold declaration 08:14 but I don't-- in my mind, 08:16 I don't see Joshua, you know, 08:17 standing in his living room at home you know, and saying, 08:20 "hey everybody, we are going to serve the Lord." 08:22 It seems as of Joshua you know, he has a pulse of his family. 08:26 He knew what was going on in his household 08:29 and I think as men we have to have the pulse 08:32 of our household right on our fingertips. 08:35 You know, my father's name is not Joshua 08:37 but he knew Joshua 08:39 and as we were growing up there were some basic things 08:42 that my father told us that you know 08:44 as far as you know, entertainment, 08:45 even watching cartoons on televisions. 08:48 You know, there are certain cartoons 08:50 that my father, you know, when he came on, 08:51 my father said uh, uh, turn that mess off. 08:54 You are not going to watch, 08:56 you know, such as such on television. 08:58 And as I look back on now 09:00 it's like you know I was bit advanced. 09:01 Like why can't I watch it? 09:03 But as I look back on it, 09:04 I see you know, man, God, my father was 09:06 you know he was, Joshua, he was this man 09:08 that was so to speak a watchman. 09:10 He was trying to look out 09:11 for the things that were coming into our home. 09:14 But entertainment is a serious issue's in our, 09:17 in our families. 09:18 You know, what do we do to help a dress 09:22 you know, some of the stuff 09:23 that is being brought into our home as men, 09:26 not ruling though with an iron fist, 09:29 we never want to rule with that fist. 09:30 What can we do to help all of you 09:32 especially as we say entertainment? 09:35 You know, I, 09:39 I am going to differ and I think I should, 09:43 in terms of the role of the man in the house. 09:47 You know, I agree that the, the man or the male 09:51 should always champion to cause of a spirituality, 09:55 should always you know, without compromise. 09:59 But before we answer that question 10:02 let us take a look in terms of what's happening. 10:04 As far back at 2004, 10:08 black women had overtaken black men 10:11 in post secondary institutions, 10:16 now we have more educated, 10:19 more, more talented black women than black men in the US. 10:24 As a matter of fact, if you watch that showing 10:27 MSNBC Breadwinner wives, 10:31 these are women 10:33 who're bringing in more money than men, 10:36 which actually now is a cause for divorce 10:38 because some men can't deal with the fact 10:41 that their wives are more marketable. 10:44 So let me, let me just set this up for you. 10:47 So if you have a woman 10:48 who is paying the majority of the bills, 10:52 who is more educated than you, 10:55 who has more sway who are you to tell this woman 11:00 that she can't watch this T.V show 11:02 when she bought a T.V. 11:04 Well. 11:05 And when she's paying for the program. 11:06 Okay. 11:08 What are we talking about here, gentlemen. 11:09 Okay. 11:10 Well, I-- I'm glad you brought that up. 11:12 That's all right. 11:13 Because there, there are a lot of them, 11:16 there are lot of men 11:17 who don't and this goes back to the identifying part. 11:21 We don't identify with who we are. 11:23 If we're identifying with who we are 11:25 as God has given us ordination 11:29 over the household to say that, 11:31 I'm gonna use you to be the guide, 11:34 I'm gonna use you to set the standard. 11:38 There's a high responsibility to be a man in America. 11:41 Well, not just in America 11:42 but to be a man in miracle household 11:44 and if we sensor our focus, 11:46 and if we sensor our responsibility 11:48 around the God ordained precepts 11:51 money is just another factor that comes into the picture. 11:54 So my wife can, can have three million dollars, 11:57 but if she trust her husband to be the steward 12:00 of whatever comes in to that house, 12:03 then it's, a whole another perception to me. 12:07 My wife can make more money, 12:08 as a matter my wife does make more money than me. 12:10 She does but she trusts me to make good decisions. 12:13 I'll come up and say, 12:15 "babe, I'm no good at keeping the books. 12:17 I'm flat out. 12:18 I'm no good at keeping the books. 12:20 Babe, can you keep the books? 12:21 Can you do this?" 12:22 But see it came from the husband, 12:24 the direction came from the husband 12:26 and she's like, "well, oh. 12:28 Okay I'll keep the books, I can do this, I can do that, 12:30 I can do the other, there's no problem." 12:33 But it's about responsibility and delegation as well, 12:38 as not just beating you're chest 12:40 and saying I'm a man. 12:41 I want you to say it's not about beating your chest 12:42 and saying that, I'm a man. 12:44 But it's about being a responsible steward 12:47 to everything that God encompasses 12:48 or puts within you're perimeter. 12:51 Yes, kind of interesting, my, 12:53 my parents halfway through their careers, 12:56 my, my mother's career just took off 12:58 and she begin out earn my father significantly. 13:03 But it's kind of interesting 13:05 and probably from me being a young teen 13:08 only it was that way and the gap just continued 13:12 until retirement. 13:14 But it's kind of interesting that family worship, 13:21 it was regular. 13:23 Morning and evening my father sounded the alarm. 13:28 Okay. Okay. 13:30 The hymn book was opened and my brother who plays-- 13:34 very accomplice pianist, 13:36 he played the hymn's and we sang 13:40 and he did the morning watch 13:42 and he did the Sabbath school lesson 13:45 and without fail. 13:47 There were times when because my mom worked so hard, 13:50 that she just came in and went to bed. 13:52 You know, it's kind of he, he was always open to her, 13:57 but if she did not wanted to do it, he did not force it, 14:02 but he did set the spirituality of our home. 14:07 He was Sabbath school teacher for the teens. 14:10 So happen just you know, to be our class, 14:13 so we were getting that at home, 14:14 we were getting that church. 14:17 There were things that my mom thought, 14:19 you know, it might not be so bad for the kids to do this. 14:23 My father if he felt there was a strong moral issue, 14:26 he drew a hard line, a very hard line. 14:30 And it's kind of interesting when I had my lowest moment, 14:35 when the devil challenged me the most in my life, 14:40 the person I want to call 14:41 as a young black boy who doubted on my mom 14:45 and had had sort of a relationship 14:48 of utility with my dad, 14:50 even though I love him. 14:52 When the spiritual challenges came, 14:55 did not wanted to talk to mom, 14:57 I wanted to talk to dad 14:58 'cause I felt like this man has the connection 15:03 that I have experienced through him with God 15:07 that I need right now. 15:09 And I think that's a good example 15:11 of how a man can say, listen the spiritual program, 15:16 I'm going to make sure, for my house, 15:18 I'm going to make sure that I structured that program. 15:22 Now, wife, she's an adult 15:25 and she can make decisions that relates her own 15:27 personal involvement in that program, 15:29 but my house will not go absent of that program 15:33 and my effort to manage that program. 15:39 Okay, now you're, you're smiling, 15:40 what do you think about it? 15:42 I am, I am, I am because the rules, 15:45 the rules have changed, 15:48 more so over the last ten years, 15:51 dramatically over the last five years. 15:53 I absolutely agree that my dad 15:57 should be the patriarch of their family 16:00 and I should lead out spiritually 16:02 and in other areas. 16:04 I mean let me just paint a scenario for you. 16:07 If my wife is a pediatrician 16:10 and my son needs to get his tonsils removed 16:15 as the man of the family, 16:17 being a non-medical person 16:20 that's not a decision that I should make. 16:22 I should consult to my wife, she is the expert. 16:26 You know, she is the most educated person here 16:29 so I should consult with her before I come to a conclusion 16:33 and before we agree in terms of how we will proceed. 16:38 I think one of the reasons 16:39 why we're running into a lot of problems 16:41 is that as a male I feel that in every aspect of the family, 16:46 you know, I was ruled supreme, 16:49 you know, even down to the decorations of the home, 16:53 the painting, the carpet. 16:55 If my wife is a person who can spot a better deal 16:59 and who can drive a hard bargain, 17:01 I want her to lead. 17:02 As the male I still continue to play an important role 17:07 and as the leader I should be the first one 17:10 to take the trashcan out. 17:12 I should be the first one to empty the dishwasher. 17:15 I should be the first one to say I am sorry. 17:17 Leading doesn't necessarily mean it 17:19 I have to be at front, 17:21 I can also lead from behind, 17:23 that is the only point I wanted to make into this topic. 17:26 You know, I think that's a great point. 17:27 I think it's a great point because again, 17:29 you know, that declaration sound 17:30 as if he's so stern as if you know, 17:32 he just whips his family into shape. 17:34 But what I do hear guys, 17:36 is that it is so critical for the man 17:39 to be submitted to God. 17:41 You know, I hear that in our conversation 17:43 over and over again because as he submits himself to God, 17:47 you know for God to lead him 17:49 and that's the only way really he can lead his family, 17:51 you know, anywhere. 17:52 You know, interestingly and keeping with, 17:57 Dr. King's, point you know, bringing that 17:59 in my parent's example together. 18:02 My dad tried to the family's finances 18:08 and he was terrible at it. 18:10 Now my mom is an expert at it. 18:14 So at some point in time she waited for him 18:18 to come to a point of realizing that he, 18:23 that wasn't his thing. 18:25 And so I mean, she could have been more forward 18:30 and said listen this is not working 18:31 and let's, let's do this and he would have been open, 18:34 but she was from a different era 18:36 and so as she took a different approach. 18:37 The point is that my father offered no resistance 18:41 to the, to the idea of her handling the books 18:45 and that's when the family's financial situation 18:47 just went up, way up. 18:50 But he was, he understood that 18:53 even though he was going to manage 18:56 and lead the spiritual program of the house 18:59 but that did not mean that he had to be upfront 19:01 in all aspects of the family dynamics. 19:05 Another point I want to mention also 19:08 is that the very definition of family has changed. 19:13 In biblical times, family meant husband wife, 19:20 children, servants, grandparents, uncle, 19:23 aunt and so on and so forth. 19:25 In today's vernacular there's a, 19:28 you know, there's multiple definition for family, 19:30 you know, we have the single parent household. 19:34 And by the way within the African-American community 19:38 we have more than 65 percent of women 19:41 who are leading their households. 19:44 We need to recognize that. 19:46 You know, we have blended families 19:49 where you have stepchildren 19:51 now living together as a family. 19:55 We have gays and homosexual families 19:59 and I know that these topics 20:01 may not be relevant to this discussion 20:03 but when, when we think of family 20:05 we want to carefully consider what are we talking about 20:09 because what if this household is lead by a single mom? 20:14 Sure, sure, sure you know, 20:16 that's a very interesting point, 20:18 but if anyone, you know, for the man that's here, 20:21 even viewer is right now and the man has that desire 20:25 you know, as Stephen is talking about. 20:27 The man has desire, he's saying to himself, 20:29 you know what, I really want to get 20:31 my family back together again. 20:33 I want to bring my family to where God wants them to be. 20:37 There has to be some type of practical steps 20:39 that that he should take in order to achieve that, 20:42 especially as it relates to discipline in the home. 20:44 You know, there was a story 20:45 recently in the news of a mega pastor, 20:49 that has some, some real issues with his teenage daughter. 20:52 You know, daughter went to graduation party, 20:55 late at night it was at the 12 o'clock 20:56 and as pastor he said you know, absolutely not, you can't go. 21:01 And it ended up you know, 21:02 she called the police on her pastor, 21:05 on her father, which happen to be a pastor 21:07 and it made you know the news, 21:09 headline news that you know, this pastor goes to jail 21:12 because he folded his arms, so to speak and said no, 21:15 you are not going to leave the house 21:18 because again you know, in his mind as for me 21:21 in my house we're gonna serve the Lord, you know. 21:23 There're some challenges though that we face as, 21:27 men when we want to take that priesthood status you know. 21:33 Kind of talk about that challenge you know, 21:34 whether be discipline or any other area. 21:37 Well, help us, help that brother right now 21:40 understand what practical steps 21:42 can he take really to lead his family 21:45 the way God want him to go? 21:48 Well, you know as a leader I've got to be responsible, 21:53 I've gotta be consistent, I've got to be selfless, 21:59 I've got to be the first one to say I'm sorry 22:02 because you know, we can't coheres people into obedience. 22:07 You know, we can only lead by example. 22:09 So for the person who is watching, 22:12 who is saying I want to leave my family 22:15 to God or back to God, 22:18 my advice would be that you've got to take the first step up 22:23 and pull your family along with you. 22:25 Don't try to bully them, don't try to force them, 22:28 be the man step up be responsible 22:31 you know, be fiscally responsible, 22:34 be spiritually responsible. 22:36 You know, start the morning and evening devotions 22:40 but let them see you praying, let them see you crying, 22:43 let them see you leading 22:44 without trying to force it on them. 22:46 Yeah, okay. Okay. 22:48 I'll have to say that add to Dr. Colin, 22:51 be a decision maker. 22:52 You know and the best way to do 22:55 because if you're not the decision maker, 22:56 you're sitting at home saying that, 22:57 but I'm not good at making decision, 22:59 I'm not good at this then practice making decisions. 23:03 Tell your self that "okay, I need to take that trash off, 23:06 I need to otherwise I'll have mites, 23:08 otherwise I'll have bugs." 23:10 You know, I need to tell my child that 23:14 they can't watch this program or that program 23:16 because it leads to or as a door opener 23:19 to this type of lifestyle or this type of thing, 23:22 to doing drugs, to drinking, 23:23 to something hanging out with the wrong crowd. 23:25 That's why start practicing and going over 23:28 but be a decision maker in your own mind 23:31 and in your own heart, to your children, 23:33 to your family and even around you 23:36 because God gave you that domain, 23:40 He gave you that area 23:42 that you are to have decision or dominion over 23:46 whether it's the church, whether it's the-- 23:48 not only the total dominion when I say these areas. 23:50 Whether it's the church, whether it's your neighborhood, 23:52 whether it's your workplace be a decision maker 23:54 even as Joshua was as per me 23:55 and my house we will serve the Lord. 23:57 Beside this day, whom you're gonna serve 24:01 and what you're gonna stand for. 24:04 You know this thing the situation 24:06 with the pastor and his daughter 24:08 that takes us all the way back to the challenge, 24:10 the set up that I did 24:11 at the beginning of this program. 24:15 Children have rights, how much can you do with them? 24:17 Pets have rights. 24:19 How much can you regulate your pets? 24:21 You know, but here's the deal. 24:23 Balance is the key. 24:25 You start by plugging into the divine. 24:28 Get up every morning, concentrate yourself to God 24:30 and say listen Lord, I may not know how to find 24:34 the right balance between what's society says 24:37 and I think I cannot do what You require of me 24:39 but You can step me through that 24:42 just as You did with Daniel, 24:43 just as You did with the three Hebrew boys. 24:47 Don't forget that You have the Creator of the universe 24:52 who can help navigate that whole scene for You. 24:55 He will inspire you, he will give you a path 24:59 that is right for you to take and once you have that path, 25:03 popular or not and I think that was Joshua's point. 25:07 Popular or not, you have to be resolute in moving that for. 25:12 That's good, that's good. 25:14 You know there is you know, I'm always thinking about 25:16 you know, the balance that you just talked about as well, 25:18 there is a single woman right now 25:20 who is listening to this conversation 25:22 and she is saying "wow, you know, that sounds great 25:25 but you know what, I'm struggling, 25:28 you know, because I'm Joshua in my own house 25:31 and she wants to take some practical steps as well. 25:35 I know this is "For Guys Only" 25:36 but well, let's think about this for a second you know. 25:38 What can she do as well to help lead her house back to God 25:43 or are the steps exactly the same? 25:45 Now, what kind of women do you try to you know, 25:47 win their home to God as well? 25:49 You know, single parents have the difficult time 25:53 leading their family 25:55 and families that are lead by women 25:58 have even more difficult time 26:00 because that male figure is missing 26:03 which I think is critical. 26:06 I am mentoring a young man and his mom is a single parent 26:12 and so many times when he gets himself from trouble 26:15 she will ask me to make that intervention for her. 26:18 So what can a single mom do, 26:20 I think she can involve trusted people around her 26:25 especially a trusted male figure 26:28 to make the intervention where she may not be effective 26:31 in making a particular intervention. 26:34 I agree with that completely. 26:36 My mom was a single parent you know, raising three of us. 26:40 Myself, my brother, and sister 26:42 and she came into the realization 26:44 that I can't raise these boys on my own. 26:47 You know, there are, there are aspects 26:49 to the male genome that I just don't have a clue about. 26:53 So, she asked and did that in old school ways 26:58 they went in and they asked men in the church, 27:00 can you help minister my boys? 27:02 And back then it was more close than it is now. 27:04 You know, women grab their husband 27:06 and you're not getting my husband out there 27:07 with that single woman 27:09 you know, all that kind of thing. 27:10 So what happened was there were some men 27:12 that actually took an interest in me. 27:13 They saw my mothers plea and they understood 27:16 and they would always come up and lift me up and talk me 27:19 "hey, go talk to that young lady there, 27:21 she's been looking at you." 27:22 "No, no, no I don't want," 27:24 "get over there and talk to that lady 27:25 you know I, you know I want you to do over there." 27:27 And they really, really wanted to see the best for me 27:31 and for the men and the boys in the church. 27:33 You know guys, 27:34 our time is up amazingly already 27:36 but I challenge you my brother, 27:38 to submit yourself to God and you submit to God, 27:40 God really does begin to do the work in your life. 27:44 Until next time may God continue to bless you, 27:47 may God keep you as you walk with Him 27:48 and as you first submit to Him 27:51 so that your family can be all that God would have it to be. 27:54 Until next time I'm Pastor William Lee, 27:56 enjoy your day. |
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