Participants: Jay Rosario & Daniel McGrath (Host), Valmy Karamera
Series Code: E
Program Code: E000021
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00:20 Hello again, my name is Jay Rosario.
00:22 I'm the host for the Engage Program, 00:24 which is a series dedicated 00:26 to address some challenging issues facing young adults 00:31 in the Christian world all over the globe, 00:34 joining us is my good friend, Daniel McGrath. 00:36 Dan, how's it going? Very good, Jay. 00:37 So Dan, what are we gonna talking about today? 00:40 Yeah, today we're gonna be 00:41 looking at the topic of leadership 00:44 and this is something that we all realize 00:46 there's a lack of good leadership around us. 00:49 And we're praying for more Godly leaders 00:51 but today, we have a special guest, 00:53 somebody who I believe the Lord has put 00:55 in a good responsible leadership position. 00:57 His name is Valmy Karamera. He's a good friend of ours. 01:00 Valmy, come on out here. 01:02 We're happy you could join us today. 01:04 Hello. Welcome. 01:06 So Valmy, we are-- 01:07 I've actually had the privilege of working 01:09 together with Valmy in leadership team in Canada. 01:16 Valmy, I know you, Dan knows you, 01:18 but for those that may not know you, 01:19 maybe you could talk a little bit about 01:21 maybe where you from? 01:23 What you're currently doing? 01:24 And why you think leadership is such an important subject 01:27 that it would take an entire, 01:31 one of our sessions to address it and to talk about? 01:33 Sure, my name is Valmy Karamera 01:36 and I'm originally from Rwanda. 01:38 Currently, I'm a a student at Andrews University 01:40 studying in the seminary. 01:42 So Valmy tell us just a little bit about 01:44 the movements you've been involved with that 01:46 you've helped to lead up till now. 01:49 Well, when I became Adventist about six years ago, 01:53 I was very inspired with the message 01:57 God has given our church and being a young person, 02:00 I wanted young people to know also about this message, 02:04 my friends, my classmate 02:06 and also having attended our secular university. 02:08 There are not so many Adventists 02:09 on secular university. 02:11 And so I was able to network with young people at the time 02:14 I was in Canada and we started something 02:18 called ECYC, (Eastern Canada Youth Conference) 02:21 for young people that is now 02:23 reaching the entire eastern part of Canada 02:27 and also in the west part of Canada, 02:29 I had the privilege of working with Jay. 02:31 We worked with the Acts for Christ, 02:34 but also because my roots are come from Africa. 02:38 And we started that something also called A.L.I.V.E., 02:40 which stands for African Living In View of Eternity. 02:44 And it's actually spreading across the continent 02:47 and changing the face of Africa. 02:48 Wow! So you've been the President of ECYC. 02:52 You've been the President of A.L.I.V.E. 02:54 You've worked with Acts for Christ 02:56 in different positions. 02:58 This leadership is something that in only six years 03:01 it's clear that God has put you 03:03 in this position to do something, 03:05 but for our audience today. 03:06 What is the difference between 03:09 a worldly leader and Biblical leader? 03:11 What does--what does the Bible say about that? 03:12 I think it's very essential 03:14 to address the topic of leadership 03:16 because everything rises or falls on leadership. 03:21 And there is-- we must distinguish between 03:23 a Biblical leadership and secular leadership. 03:26 And I think when I think of a Biblical leadership, 03:29 I think of a text in First Peter. 03:32 Maybe we can go there. I Peter Chapter 5. 03:39 I Peter Chapter 5 03:45 and he says, "The elders which are among you." 03:49 You're reading from Verse 1. Verse 1, Chapter 5 Verse 1. 03:53 It says, "The elders which are among you I exhort, 03:56 who I'm also an elder," 03:58 And that word elder can substitute for a leader. 04:01 And a witness of the suffering of Christ 04:03 and also a partaker of the glory 04:05 that shall be revealed. 04:06 Now, look up verse 2, verse 2 says, 04:08 "Feed the flock of God which is among you." 04:11 And some version use the word feed, they use shepherd. 04:15 And so, we find that one key characteristic 04:18 of a leader is a shepherd. 04:20 And so, I think if they're-- 04:22 you'd start to see the distinction between 04:24 Biblical leadership and also secular leadership. 04:27 In a sense that Biblical leadership 04:29 we are to shepherd the flock of God 04:31 to lead the people of God. 04:34 And so I think leadership is defined by 04:37 what you do and who you lead. 04:38 And in this case, Biblical leadership 04:40 is leading the people of God, 04:42 which is awesome responsibility 04:45 leading the people of God. 04:46 It's very humbling. 04:48 So in that corporate world, leadership would be, 04:50 you know, how to make money for your company? 04:52 How to put those processes in the place? 04:55 But you're saying leadership is actually caring 04:57 for the flock of God whether it's, 05:00 you know, an independent ministries 05:02 like A.L.I.V.E., or those things. 05:03 Your ultimate goal is for the salvation of souls. 05:06 Absolutely, it's for the salvation of souls 05:08 and caring for the people that God has interested you to 05:11 because it is not my company that I am leading 05:14 or someone else's company. 05:16 These are the people of God. 05:19 And so, that makes a clear difference here 05:22 that it is a spiritual responsibility. 05:24 It is not any other responsibility 05:26 but rather a spiritual responsibility. 05:28 Now, Valmy, I think this is brilliant 05:31 what we're addressing at DNA, 05:32 and I can definitely see the needs 05:34 in many different aspects. 05:36 Well, Valmy, what about the individual who says, 05:40 "You know, I'm not really a leader." 05:44 Actually when I consider myself, 05:47 I don't consider myself by nature someone who leads. 05:52 My older brother on the other hand is a leader, 05:56 I mean, every ounce of his body is leadership. 05:59 So what about us who--those of us 06:02 who feel like I'm not naturally a leader, 06:05 I don't have his big corporation, 06:07 I'm not a fancy preacher, 06:09 I don't chair board meeting et cetera. 06:11 Are they leaders still or is it only for a select few? 06:15 What are your thoughts on that? 06:16 You know, again it depends on the context 06:20 in which you working in. 06:21 For example, I believe some of the greatest leaders 06:24 we have, are mothers. 06:26 They have a chance of molding kids, 06:29 molding their children to become a great man 06:31 and woman of the world. 06:33 If you look at them you will not think they are leaders, 06:36 but the context in which 06:37 they're working in, they're leaders. 06:39 I think of the young lady in Neiman's court 06:43 who directed Neiman to go to Israel to see the prophet. 06:48 Was she a leader in that case? Yes, she was a leader. 06:51 She was able to direct this great general 06:54 to go to Israel and receive healing. 06:57 So it's in the context that you're working in, 06:59 for example in this show, Jay, you're acting as a leader 07:02 as the principal leader in this case. 07:04 So it's the context in which a person is working in 07:07 and especially as Christians, 07:09 God has this mandate to take the gospel to entire world. 07:14 Christ didn't say that a select few 07:15 will take this gospel to entire world. 07:17 Christ said, "All of us." 07:19 So all of us are given the responsibility 07:21 to lead someone to Christ. 07:23 So in that case, are we leading? 07:25 Yes, we're leading. 07:27 So, we are all leaders across the level. 07:29 It's just the context in which we're leading. 07:31 All right, well, you know, the Lord has-- 07:33 has used your ministry, your leadership 07:35 to influence thousands of people around the world. 07:37 That's evident. But what about people that, 07:40 you know, are sitting at home thinking, 07:43 you know, I am really a leader? 07:46 How do I know that? 07:47 Are there any principles that you can give us 07:50 from your experience and from the Bible 07:51 that'd help people to know what a leader really is? 07:55 I think today they are tons of writing on leaderships 08:00 and if I can narrow-- most of at least 08:03 what I've read, what I've experienced, 08:05 if I can narrow them down in only three core values 08:08 or three core principles. 08:10 I would say that number one is the call of God, 08:14 knowing the call, your calling, 08:16 you know, in what area God has called you to 08:19 and I would explain more about this. 08:21 And number two it will be the vision 08:25 that God gives you the vision and then number three, 08:28 it would be the character of a leader, 08:30 so those three things. 08:32 And so coming to back to number one, 08:35 it will be the call of a leader. 08:36 How do I know God has called me? 08:38 How do you know God has called you. 08:40 And it reminds me of-- 08:42 in the book Patriarchs and Prophets, 08:45 when Ellen White talks about 08:46 the call of Abraham on page 126, 08:50 she says that, "God calls us" 08:54 She alludes to the ways God calls us. 08:57 A three ways, one being 08:58 that we may hear a clear voice of God. 09:01 So number one, a clear voice of God and so number two, 09:05 by His word through His word. 09:07 And even the call of God if it's audible 09:09 it has to be affirmed by the word of God, 09:12 you know, because someone may say, 09:13 "God is calling me to do this." 09:15 But how do we know that this calling is Biblical? 09:17 So we have to examine it 09:19 based on the word of God. 09:20 So the call from God and the word of God 09:24 and then circumstances which she calls evidence, 09:28 events of His providence-- events of His providence. 09:31 So circumstances happening in your life 09:34 and you know that God has called you. 09:36 In the Bible we have so many examples 09:38 that all fit in these three types of calling. 09:41 For example, we think of, let's say Abraham. 09:44 He heard a clear voice from God, God calling him. 09:48 We think of Moses which combined 09:50 both an audible voice but also circumstances. 09:53 It was because he killed this Egyptian man 09:56 that he fled for 40 years 09:58 and because of the circumstance, 09:59 he ended up receiving that call from God. 10:02 Then we think about people like Nehemiah. 10:04 Nehemiah didn't hear a voice from God. 10:06 It was circumstances. 10:08 So we see those calls-- this different calling 10:11 acting out in people's life. 10:13 The second principle 10:14 which I mentioned is the vision of God. 10:17 And let's turn to Proverbs 29, verse 18. 10:22 Proverbs 29, verse 18. 10:27 Jay, you can read it for us? Yes. 10:29 Proverbs 29 Verse 18? Yes. 10:31 Proverbs 29:18 says, 10:33 "Where there is no vision, the people perish." Yes. 10:37 Where there is no vision, the people perish. 10:40 In fact the actual word for the vision there 10:42 is the word revelation. 10:44 Where there is no revelation 10:47 and it has to be a revelation of God, people perish. 10:51 So today when you examine the landscape of leadership, 10:56 you hear people say, "What's your vision? 10:59 What's your vision for this ministry? 11:01 What's your vision for your life?" 11:03 You know, but the Bible tells us 11:05 that the actual vision it has to be a revelation from God 11:10 and so you can imagine that Biblical leadership 11:12 without this vision, 11:14 without this revelation from God is doomed. 11:17 So that's why all leaders actually 11:19 must really honestly ask the Lord, 11:22 "What would you have me do to get that vision from God?" 11:26 And so and God reveals to us in many ways as we say, 11:30 "He may audibly talk to us." 11:33 He may clearly reveal something to us in scripture 11:36 and He may lead us by circumstances 11:37 like He led Nehemiah or other people, 11:40 Paul and others and Timothy and Titus. 11:43 They didn't hear the voice from God. 11:45 So they were called by circumstances. 11:49 And then the third principle 11:51 that I want to end these three principles on 11:53 is the character of a leader, 11:55 you know, someone had said that, 11:57 "Sometimes your talents would take-- 12:00 would take you to a place 12:01 where your character cannot keep you." 12:05 Your talents would take you to a place 12:07 where your character cannot keep you. 12:09 So which means that my character as a leader, 12:12 your character as a leader, 12:14 what kind of character do we have? 12:16 And there are two things I can say on this, 12:18 number one is to be really a follower of God. 12:22 Paul says when he writes to the Church of Corinth, 12:26 he tell them, "Imitate me as I've imitated Christ." 12:30 And when you-- you wonder, 12:31 "Who is this Christ that he imitated?" 12:34 Then your mind goes to the Philippians. 12:36 When Paul says, "Let this mind 12:39 that was in Christ also be in you." 12:41 That mind of a servant, 12:43 which leads me to a second point 12:45 that a leader--the character of a leader 12:47 he must not only be a follower of Christ 12:49 but also he must be a servant of Christ. 12:52 And you look at this as Paul introduces 12:54 almost all his letters, he says, 12:57 "I, Paul, a servant of Christ am one being called by God 13:02 but also a servant of Christ." 13:04 So, those three principles 13:06 that's how I can reduce leadership into. All right. 13:09 Well, you know, the show is-- 13:11 is issues that our that young people are facing. Sure. 13:14 And it's great to know all of the things 13:17 that make a good leader how God calls a leader, 13:20 but what about the people whom God has called 13:23 that aren't responding. 13:24 Maybe, Jay, you might even be all the time here. 13:26 There are people that, 13:27 you know, are may be questioning their leadership. 13:29 Right. You know. 13:30 Did God really intent for me to do this? 13:32 What do you say to people in for feeling that? 13:37 People who are questioning their leadership-- 13:38 I think--I think that's a very good question. 13:41 One way I think I can respond to is 13:44 look at the life of Paul. 13:46 The way Paul responded when he was being 13:49 challenged about his leadership's style, 13:51 about his leadership, about his calling of leadership. 13:54 You look at the book of II Corinthians 13:57 Chapter 10 to Chapter 13. 14:00 Paul defends his calling so I think one thing 14:03 we've to be sure before even we start leading 14:05 is to be sure of our own calling. 14:08 Is my calling sure? Has God called me this? 14:11 Once we're certain of this calling, 14:14 we would be willing to die for it. 14:15 You look at the Apostles. 14:16 You look at even Adventist pioneers. 14:18 They were sure that God had called them 14:21 for such a time as this and because of that 14:25 they would be willing even to die for that. 14:27 And so you look at the life of the Apostle Paul, 14:29 they say in those two chapter-- 14:31 in those three chapters where he defends his apostleship. 14:33 He defense it knowing that clearly Christ called him 14:36 and so no matter what you can say, "I've been called." 14:39 So to anybody who's challenged by the fact that, 14:42 "Has God called me? 14:44 You know, what is the credibility 14:46 of my leadership is to first honestly 14:49 within one's heart answer the question, 14:52 "Has God called me?" Right. 14:53 And once you are assure that God has called you, 14:56 no challenge no mountain that you cannot climb. 15:00 Yeah, I think it's interesting 15:01 'cause at least in the countries 15:03 that I served as a pastor, 15:04 I see many of our members kind of with a fear 15:09 of assuming positions of leadership. 15:11 And of course, I think every individual 15:14 maybe has a different story. Sure. 15:16 But what I found is may be a fear of failure. 15:21 I think also may be a previous failure 15:24 that the experience that they don't want 15:27 to see resurrects again, 15:31 maybe a sensation of not being good enough. Okay. 15:34 Not being, you know, qualified for the task. 15:38 But I think it's interesting 'cause when you look at 15:39 one of the most amazing leaders 15:40 in all the scripture is Moses. 15:42 And Moses when God was calling, 15:44 you know, Valmy's talking about being sure of your call. 15:47 And Moses was really trying to justify the call, "Oh God." 15:51 And he says, "Who am I?". "Who am I?" 15:54 "How can I do this?" Yeah. 15:55 But it's interesting because I think 15:57 that actually is a qualification of a leader. 16:01 Is when you recognize that you're not good enough 16:04 because what you're gonna have to do is 16:05 you're gonna have to depend on somebody else's strength. 16:08 And obviously we're talk-- 16:09 we're referring to the Lord there. 16:10 So leadership is something that cannot be 16:13 successfully taken place without the recognition 16:19 that you are not good enough 16:21 and that you need the Lord in order to cope-- 16:24 in order to give you the wisdom 16:26 to make the right decisions, to coach people, to, 16:30 you know, be a good representative, et cetera. 16:33 So I think those are the two things 16:34 that I've seen is a fear of failure 16:36 and maybe a sensation that I'm good enough 16:39 or that I'm not worthy enough. 16:41 And I think that if you feel that you're not worthy enough. 16:44 If you feel you're not good enough, 16:46 well, then you just qualified yourself as a potential-- 16:49 potential leader that's gonna be amazing. Yes. 16:51 I like that because as we've said in the beginning, 16:53 it's all about, you know, caring for the flock 16:56 and that only happens, you know, 16:59 the Lord is the shepherd of the flock, just using us. Yes. 17:03 And so that's, you know, the leader has to be 17:05 a follower of Christ and a servant 17:07 because Christ was a servant. Right. 17:09 And has to be a follower of Jesus 17:12 and that's how Biblical leadership takes place. 17:15 Now, what about somebody 17:18 who's got a vision to do something big for God? 17:21 Wants to get involved in a local church, 17:23 wants to get involved in a conference, 17:26 but needs opposition along the way. 17:30 Maybe the church is against, 17:33 you know, this kind of program, 17:34 this kind of approach whatever it is. 17:36 How does he, you know, he believes God has called him 17:39 or she believes God has called her? Right. 17:41 How does she work with the church 17:44 and not go against it? Right. 17:46 I think that's something as young people 17:49 we experience all the time. 17:51 You know, you have this vision that this burden 17:54 the Lord may be laying on your heart, 17:56 perhaps you don't even have finances. 17:58 You have so many obstacles 17:59 but I think at first being certain of your calling, 18:03 that's number one and also knowing that 18:05 because God has called you, He will provide. 18:08 Let's look at--we were talking about Moses. 18:10 Let's look at Exodus Chapter 12. 18:17 Exodus Chapter 12. 18:22 I think I'd lost the verse here. 18:29 I think I lost the verse. 18:31 But the concept here is that God tells Moses, 18:36 "Go therefore, I'll be with your mouth 18:39 and I shall teach you what to say." 18:41 I think Exodus Chapter 4. Chapter 4 Verse 12. 18:43 Yes. Yes. Exodus 4:12. Exodus Chapter 4 Verse 12. 18:47 And it's a very good verse. Read it for us here, Jay. 18:51 Exodus 12:4 says, "Now therefore go, 18:54 and I will be with your mouth, 18:56 and teach you what you shall say." 18:58 And so you see here God after He calls Moses, 19:01 He assures him that, "I shall also provide. 19:05 I shall give you the strength, I shall give you everything 19:08 you need to carry out in this ministry." 19:10 So as long as God has called us, 19:13 we must have faith and trust 19:15 that God will help us to carriy this through. 19:17 And also you study the life later-- 19:19 the life of Paul or even the life of Nehemiah. 19:21 You study the life of Paul. 19:22 Paul it took him like 10 years. 19:25 Scholar showed that Paul it took him about 10 years 19:27 before the first time he met Christ and at the time 19:31 actually he started his ministry to the Gentiles 19:33 because what there was this, 19:35 Acts 15 was in the middle of his calling 19:38 because Paul couldn't reach the Gentiles because 19:42 there was this obstacle of the Gentiles and the Jews. 19:46 You know, unless this issue of circumcision 19:48 had been reserved, Paul could not reach the Gentiles. 19:50 So imagine that when God calls Paul, 19:54 Christ calls Paul but Paul has to wait for some years 19:57 before Act 15 happens. 20:00 And once Acts 15 happens then Paul has a-- 20:03 more open door to reach the Gentiles. 20:06 So as long as God has called us 20:08 we must have the patience 20:09 and know that God's timing is not ours. 20:11 That at a critical time God will open a door for us 20:15 to go through. All right. 20:16 So you've experienced 20:19 some opposition along the away. 20:20 Haven't you? Absolutely. 20:23 Do you wanna-- do you care to tell us 20:25 how you dealt with those situations, 20:27 maybe a little bit of what happened then? 20:30 I think, I mean, opposition must be expected, 20:34 you know, there is a law in physics that says, 20:36 "Where there is motion, there is always friction." 20:39 You know, as along as there is motion 20:41 you must expect friction 20:43 and so I think opposition must be expected. 20:47 But if you know this is God's calling, 20:49 this is God's vision, nothing can stop it. 20:52 So I think any leader must exhibit that confidence 20:55 that God has called me and this is God's vision. 20:58 And so I think that becomes the source of your strength. 21:01 So number one, how do you deal 21:03 with these obstacles and these challenges 21:05 and opposition is like Paul dealt with it. 21:08 First of all, draw courage 21:10 and strength from your own calling, you know, 21:13 he spends three chapters defending his apostleship 21:16 so he draws courage from his own calling, 21:19 from his experience with the Lord, 21:20 you know, so I think as a young leaders 21:24 this is where we need to draw our courage 21:26 and our strength in times 21:28 when we face opposition that God has called us. 21:31 Also we must understand that we must wait on God 21:35 to lead to open doors just as Paul waited on God 21:39 to remove the issue of circumcisions 21:41 so he can reach to the Gentiles. 21:44 So we must have the patience 21:45 and in time in this period of waiting, 21:48 God is also molding our characters. 21:50 He is walking on us also. 21:52 So I think those are-- those are two points 21:55 I can provide on this and how to deal 21:57 with this obstacles and challenges. 22:00 All right. Real quick. 22:02 You said that Biblical leadership 22:05 has certain qualities? Yes. 22:07 Tell us what those are? 22:09 I think Biblical if I can some--you know, 22:11 Biblical leadership must exhibit 22:12 two fundamental qualities. 22:14 Number one, it must be Bible-based, 22:16 in other words the calling for itself 22:19 for Biblical leadership must be a God's calling. 22:23 God has-- have called you. 22:24 Secondly, you must be the vision of God. 22:27 I mean, you look at even our Church 22:28 our beloved Church, our vision, 22:30 you know, the three angels' message 22:32 is God's vision for us. 22:34 That's why even as a Seventh-day Adventist 22:36 whenever God gives me a vision, 22:38 I have to know that it falls 22:40 within this large vision of the Church 22:43 that my vision my small vision 22:45 God has given me as a church member, 22:47 it has to fit in the larger vision of the church. 22:50 So number one, it has to be Bible-based 22:52 the calling of God, the vision of God, 22:55 it has to be Bible-based. 22:57 And secondly, it has to be reviving in nature, 23:00 if I'm a leader I have to lead God's people 23:05 and I should be leading them from point A to point B. 23:09 So if there is no changes in the lives, in their lifestyle. 23:13 If there is no change that is happening in the Church 23:15 then there is a problem. 23:17 So Biblical leadership must be Bible-based 23:20 and it must be also reviving in nature. 23:23 So Valmy, what about, maybe it's good to know 23:26 the good things about leadership 23:28 and the how-to's and what not. Yes. 23:30 But how do we avoid 23:33 may be the common mistakes made by leaders? 23:37 You as a leader may be you're coaching other leaders. 23:39 What have you seen are the common mistakes 23:41 that leaders make that makes their leadership 23:45 a little bit not so successful 23:47 and maybe even discourage them 23:48 from continuing in their leadership role? 23:50 Have you seen anything that kind of repeats 23:52 something that's kind of continual? 23:54 I think one of the obvious one 23:56 we mentioned about it is discouragement. 23:59 You know, you start a project. 24:01 You start a ministry and five years down the road 24:05 you feel discouraged and you quit. 24:07 So I can imagine Paul quitting after five years. 24:10 You know, but he persisted 24:11 and waited until that the vision was removed. 24:14 So discouragement is one of the common one. 24:16 The second one is also a lack of reflection, 24:20 a lack of sit down to plan, 24:22 you know, as the leaders we need to sit down 24:25 and plan and think ahead, 24:27 you know, anticipate the future, 24:30 anticipate what could happen. 24:32 And so I've also seen that as one of the obstacle 24:36 and the challenges that ends up discouraging many leaders. 24:40 And the third one, I would say would be 24:43 lack of planning to have a successful successor. 24:50 You know, investing in someone-- 24:52 Who will take issues on? Yes. 24:55 Investing in someone who will take your issues. 24:58 Who will pass the baton, 24:59 somebody who will pass the baton. Exactly. 25:00 You know as they say, 25:01 "Success without a successor is failure." 25:03 So taking time really to invest in someone 25:07 that actually would be see them as someone 25:09 who could be a greater leader than you. 25:11 Thanks a lot. 25:12 I can imagine Moses investing in Joshua. 25:14 You know, seeing that Joshua would be this great leader 25:18 that will take the people of God in the Promised Land 25:21 and so I think that's also the other hindrance 25:25 that we see common. 25:26 People want to be leaders for life, 25:28 president for life kind of thing, kind of mentality. 25:32 I come from Africa and so we've presidents 25:36 in power for like 40 years, you know. 25:38 Right. And by the time they even in their 5th year 25:40 they have no more vision, nothing. 25:42 And so we have to avoid that kind of mentality. 25:45 What would you say to somebody who wants to be a leader, 25:49 but where would you tell him to start? 25:53 I would say start on your knees. Amen. 25:56 Start on your knees, you know, 25:58 "God, what is it that you're calling-- 26:00 you're calling me for?" 26:01 Start on your knees, you know, wrestle with God 26:03 because God sees the end from the beginning, 26:06 you know as Ellen White says, 26:07 "God sees the end from the beginning. 26:09 He sees our lives as though they were this moment." 26:12 And so as we see, as we kneel down 26:15 to search the entire council of God 26:19 and God will reveal to us whatever vision, 26:21 whatever plan He has for our lives. 26:23 So it's also knowing, "What is my purpose in life?" 26:26 You know, and so, I mean, leaders 26:29 we've to face it also leadership is also a try, 26:31 you know, it is as they say, "Leadership is hardship." 26:34 But also leadership is one of the most rewarding thing, 26:37 you know, you enjoy mentoring young people. 26:41 You enjoyed being mentored, you know, and all this. 26:46 Well, Valmy, I think we've learned quite a bit 26:47 in the subject of leadership. We've packed in a lot. 26:49 I didn't think there was-- we could exhaust so much. 26:52 I wish we could continue but unfortunately, 26:54 our time is pretty much gone. Sure. 26:56 But we definitely appreciate your presence with us 26:59 and I feel inspired to be a leader. 27:01 I'm feeling inspired to do better job 27:03 in my leadership roles and hopefully, 27:05 those that have watched this program 27:07 have seen that inspired of whatever position 27:10 you find yourself in, you're actually a leader, 27:12 now you may not be the president, 27:14 you may not have be the CEO 27:16 of a very successful corporation but nonetheless, 27:20 God has placed you in a capacity to lead. 27:24 Maybe you're a father, maybe you're a parent, 27:26 maybe you're mother, maybe you're an older brother. 27:28 Maybe you've positions in the church, 27:31 et cetera, et cetera. 27:32 The point is that God has called all of us 27:34 to be leaders in different capacities, 27:36 we must accept this challenge. 27:38 But we must accept it humbly 27:40 and we must accept the fact that God has called us 27:43 not to fail but to succeed. 27:45 But we must accept it in humility like Moses did, 27:48 recognizing that in our own strength, 27:50 it is possible to be as successful leader. 27:53 So by the grace of God those that are watching 27:56 will go from this place 27:58 forward in their leadership roles. 27:59 God bless you. 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