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00:02 I'm John Carter in Moscow.
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I'm John Carter. 00:38 Welcome today to the Carter Report. 00:41 When I got out of bed this morning, 00:43 I opened up my Bible to the little apocalypse. 00:46 That's Matthew Chapter 24. 00:49 This is a great prophecy about the end times. 00:54 It describes our day, 00:56 and it says that in our times and in our day, 01:00 our freedoms are going to be challenged. 01:02 In fact, our freedoms are going to be taken away. 01:07 For this reason, 01:09 I've invited today an old friend, 01:12 Attorney Alan Reinach. 01:14 Alan comes from the great city of New York. 01:18 Alan is a Jewish gentleman who believes in Jesus. 01:23 And who believes that we're living 01:24 in the last days. 01:26 Alan is the Executive Director and General Counsel 01:32 of the Church State Council. 01:37 He's got some amazing responsibilities. 01:40 He is a fighter for freedom. 01:44 He has many lawsuits. 01:46 He's defending the rights of people, 01:49 whose freedom has been taken away from them` 01:52 here in the United States of America. 01:54 Today, we welcome you, Alan, to the Carter Report. 01:58 And we are so glad that you have joined us, 02:01 and we welcome you 02:02 especially also my friend. 02:08 Greater Manila is more than 20 million souls. 02:12 Almost all these beautiful people 02:14 are ignorant of the true gospel of Christ. 02:17 Manila needs Jesus. 02:19 Thirty five years ago, John Carter came to Manila. 02:22 Pastor Carter is returning to Manila 02:24 with an urgent assignment, 02:26 preach the gospel of Christ 02:28 and the great truth of the Bible. 02:30 Don't water down the message. 02:32 Make it plain, make it clear, 02:34 make it Christ centered. 02:36 The Carter report needs your help now 02:39 to light a fire in the Philippines. 02:42 Your gift will help open the doors of bondage, 02:44 smash the chains of sin and open the gates of paradise 02:48 to thousands of lost souls. 02:50 The churches have sent out an urgent plea 02:53 for the Carter Report to return. 02:55 Help us proclaim the true gospel of Christ 02:58 to the beautiful Filipino people. 03:00 Please send your support to the address on the screen, 03:03 visit our website or call The Carter Report. 03:09 Hello, friend, I'm John Carter. 03:11 Welcome again to the Carter Report. 03:13 Here in The Carter Report Studio 03:15 in beautiful Southern California 03:18 is Alan Reinach, esquire, attorney, 03:21 a great defender of the rights of individuals 03:25 as far as freedom is concerned. 03:27 Alan, welcome today. 03:29 It's a delight to be with you, John. 03:31 You've been with us before? 03:32 I have. And... 03:33 I'm a glutton for punishment, I'm back. 03:36 We're glad to have you. 03:39 Let me ask you this question. 03:42 You're an attorney. 03:43 You specialize in freedom, religious liberty issues. 03:48 Is America today in a dangerous place? 03:53 Yes, we are. 03:55 The culture wars have been a huge threat 03:58 to all of our freedoms. 04:00 And the threat is sadly 04:03 from both the left and the right. 04:06 Each side wanting supremacy in the culture wars 04:10 is willing to go to great lengths to win 04:13 and to take away the freedoms of the other. 04:16 You're a student of the Holy Scriptures 04:18 because of your Jewish Christian background. 04:23 You know about the Pharisees and the Sadducees, don't you? 04:25 Yes. 04:27 Well, they could agree on very little except 04:28 the need to crucify Christ. 04:30 Yeah, the left wing, extreme left 04:33 and the extreme right, 04:37 they could agree in very little in theology, 04:39 as you say, except to crucify the Messiah. 04:44 Do you see a parallel in our times? 04:49 The spirit of intolerance is I think the unifying theme. 04:55 It's been very obvious 04:58 and, you know from right 05:00 in terms of intolerance of Muslims for example 05:04 of immigrants from the left, 05:09 there's similarly intolerance against Christians. 05:13 There is indeed. 05:15 Yeah. Yes. 05:16 So, you know, if there's something 05:18 that both sides have in common, it's... 05:21 You know, the spirit of intolerance which is, 05:24 you know, let's put our cards on the table, John. 05:28 You know, Jesus is a spirit of love, 05:30 He died to save everyone. 05:32 The spirit of hate and intolerance 05:34 comes from somewhere else, from the enemy. 05:38 I've had the privilege of being attacked 05:40 from left and right. 05:42 You were, I'm in good company then, John. 05:44 That's a good place to be 05:46 'cause it shows that you're in the middle. 05:49 But I've discovered that people from the far left 05:52 are tremendously intolerant, 05:54 they want freedom for themselves 05:57 and freedom of speech for themselves, 05:59 not for you, not for me. 06:00 So it's a my way or the highway ethos. 06:04 Yes. Right? 06:05 If you're, you know, an advocate 06:08 for lesbian and gay rights, 06:10 then if you don't agree with them... 06:13 Yes. 06:14 You know, they want to trample on your right. 06:16 Then take away your freedom of speech. 06:18 But if you're a conservative Christian, 06:21 you're just as happy 06:22 to take away the rights of lesbians and gays. 06:25 So you think that the, 06:26 the far right in America and around the world 06:30 is also like the far left, 06:34 a threat to our liberties and freedoms? 06:38 Look, John, let me give you the big picture here. 06:42 The genius of America is a place 06:47 where people of all different beliefs 06:50 can live together in peace. 06:51 What about Muslims? 06:53 Our founding fathers and religious liberty advocates 06:57 of that generation specifically included Jews, 07:02 Catholics, Muslim saying, 07:04 America is a land of freedom for everyone, 07:08 not just for Christians. 07:09 So it would appear to this pilgrim 07:13 that a lot of folks have forgotten that? 07:15 Or never knew it. 07:19 You know, I tell my kids, 07:20 I forgot more than you ever learned. 07:23 I'm sure they, they're impressed by that. 07:26 Yeah, right. 07:27 So let me ask you this, 07:29 because this is where you specialize. 07:31 What's so wrong 07:33 with the union of church and state? 07:35 When I first came to America, 07:37 I was in the great state of Texas 07:39 that I love with all my heart. 07:40 I love Texas. 07:42 And my neighbor said to me, 07:43 "It's going to be great 07:45 when Jesus is the president of America. 07:49 When Jesus is the Lord over America." 07:51 What's so bad about that? 07:53 You know, Judas wanted to make Jesus King too, 07:58 but he would not have the earthly throne, would He? 08:03 Look, when church and state come together, 08:06 it is the historic formula for oppression and persecution. 08:11 Because those who believe they are ruling in God's name 08:18 and doing God's will feel justified 08:21 in doing things that, 08:23 if they didn't have religious justification, 08:27 they would blush, they would be ashamed of. 08:30 I've got a theology, Alan, 08:32 that you may share or else you may not share. 08:35 I believe that before the Second Coming, 08:38 it's called the rapture by evangelicals 08:41 in North America, 08:43 even though the term rapture is nowhere found 08:45 in the scriptures, 08:46 but not to argue over that point. 08:49 I believe that before the rapture 08:51 or the Second Coming, 08:53 there comes a tremendous time of religious intolerance... 08:58 Indeed. And persecution. 09:00 Indeed. 09:02 Do you think the stage is being set for this... 09:07 this scenario? 09:09 Absolutely, it is being set. 09:12 And, you know, Christians, 09:14 I think are blind to the role that they are playing in this. 09:19 You know, you started this discussion, 09:22 alluding to Jesus' 09:24 great teaching in Matthew 24 about the end time. 09:28 The little Apocalypse, it's called. 09:30 Yeah. 09:31 Now, Jesus did not warn us about deceptions 09:35 that would be Muslim, or Hindu. 09:39 He didn't warn us about deceptions 09:41 in the name of Buddha. 09:42 He said many will come in my name 09:45 and deceive many. 09:47 Even the very elect, 09:49 He warned would be susceptible to deception. 09:51 Yes. 09:53 So the final round of intolerance and persecution 09:56 before the return of Christ is done in Jesus' name. 10:01 Christians are sucked in. 10:03 And what we have today 10:04 essentially is the religious right 10:08 Christian in name, 10:10 pursuing political power as a substitute 10:14 for the lack of spiritual power. 10:17 This is pretty hot stuff really, 10:19 if we follow this through the logical conclusions. 10:21 Alan, I want to read you a text that's found in the apocalypse, 10:27 the big apocalypse. 10:28 And that's in Revelation Chapter 17, 10:33 if I may. 10:35 And then I want you to comment on it 10:37 because you're a scholar of the Bible too. 10:40 It says, "Then one of the seven angels 10:42 who had the seven bowls came and talked with me, 10:45 saying to me, 'Come, 10:48 I will show you the judgment of the great whore, 10:51 the great harlot." 10:52 Babylon the Great, the mother of harlots 10:54 and abominations of the earth. 10:56 In Scripture, the harlot is the harlot church. 10:59 It is. 11:01 A woman represents the church. 11:02 A good woman is the good church, 11:05 a bad woman is the bad church. 11:07 And she's pictured here atop the beast. 11:10 It says, "With whom the kings of the earth 11:12 committed fornication..." 11:14 Exactly. What does that mean? 11:16 "And the inhabitants of the earth 11:17 were made drunk with the wine of her fornication." 11:21 So, regardless of what any nation's laws 11:25 or values may be about the relationship 11:27 between church and state, 11:29 the Bible here very clearly says, 11:32 using the symbolism of fornication 11:36 that the intimate relationship between church and state... 11:39 An unholy alliance. Is immoral. 11:41 Yes. 11:43 Okay, fornication is an intimacy 11:47 that is forbidden. 11:48 Yes. Right? 11:49 It's an immoral intimacy. Yes. 11:51 And what the Bible is describing here 11:54 in the last days is church and state are too cozy. 11:57 When it says here that the woman is 12:00 seated upon the beast, 12:02 it means that the church is seated upon the state. 12:05 Is this true? 12:06 You know, it certainly seems like 12:09 the one who's on top is the one holding the reigns 12:11 and calling the shots. 12:12 That's what the imagery suggests to me. 12:14 And let me read on. 12:15 "So he carried me away in the Spirit 12:16 into the wilderness. 12:18 And I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast 12:21 which was full of names of blasphemy, 12:24 having seven heads and ten horns." 12:26 So every Bible commentator, 12:28 Alan, says that the woman in Bible prophecy 12:31 is the church. 12:33 Right. 12:34 And the apostate woman is the apostate church, 12:39 Christians who've lost their way. 12:42 And then it goes on to say, 12:44 "The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet..." 12:48 But if I may interject here, John... 12:50 Yes. Yes. 12:52 There's plenty of theological, 12:55 you know, debate and differences of views 12:58 among the various denominations. 13:00 That's not what this prophecy is addressing. 13:03 No. 13:04 You know, if I may, 13:06 in the system that leads to the mark of the beast. 13:09 The mark in the forehead and the hand 13:12 is a sign of belonging to the beast 13:16 which is an earthly... 13:18 What it is, is, instead of having our faith 13:21 and trust and allegiance to the Creator God in heaven, 13:24 to Jesus Christ, 13:25 the church has put its trust in princes, 13:29 it has put its allegiance... 13:31 Yes, in the state. 13:32 It now belongs, 13:35 you know, it belongs to the beast 13:37 instead of belonging to God. 13:39 So it's not so much, 13:40 you know, there may be 13:42 doctrinal confusion and doctrinal issues. 13:45 But primarily it's really talking about, 13:48 you know, who are we putting our trust in? 13:50 Totally, yes. 13:52 Now there's something else here I've just noticed, 13:54 it says, "And the inhabitants of the earth 13:57 were made drunk with the wine of her fornication." 14:02 Now, a drunk person is bit of a crazy person, isn't he? 14:06 He can't think straight. 14:07 When we think of people being intoxicated, 14:09 we think of it, 14:11 you know, like getting high, being happy, 14:13 you know, they're excited about this alliance 14:16 between church and state. 14:17 But they can't think straight. 14:19 You know, it's like, you know, fans, 14:21 you know, when your team scores a touchdown or whatever, 14:24 you know, you get all excited and cheering 14:26 and you know, that's to me, 14:28 that's the image everybody's like cheering on. 14:30 Yes. 14:32 Just like, forgive me for jumping the gun here. 14:34 But the church in Germany was thrilled 14:38 that Hitler was restoring national greatness, 14:41 and they were intoxicated with the revival of the nation. 14:45 Tell me about this, 14:47 because not everybody knows about this. 14:49 It seems to me that we have either forgotten 14:53 or else we never knew. 14:55 What happened in Germany? 14:56 You've alluded to it, tell us? 14:57 Well, you know, holocaust scholars tell us 15:00 that 80%, fully 80% of the Lutheran Church, 15:03 which was the dominant church in Germany 15:07 were very strongly supportive of the Nazi Party, 15:12 and supported the gradual ostracizing 15:17 and elimination of the Jewish community. 15:19 And any dissident... 15:20 Right. 15:22 And not only the Lutherans, 15:23 Alan, but the Roman Catholic Church. 15:25 Well, indeed. 15:26 And some said, I think you're being very kind 15:30 when you say 80%. 15:32 Some would say that 95% of the German people, 15:36 Lutherans and Catholics got behind the Fuhrer, 15:39 it's hard to believe, isn't it? 15:41 He certainly had very strong support, 15:42 you know... 15:44 From the Christians. 15:45 He campaigned on a program of being against decadence. 15:50 Yes, that's good, that's good. 15:51 And Berlin in the 1920s was a very decadent place. 15:55 Yes. 15:56 And, you know, he was vegetarian. 16:00 He would give the right religious language, 16:04 you know saying nice things about the church 16:07 and people ate it up. 16:09 And one must bear in mind, 16:13 and you won't misunderstand this 16:15 and neither will my audience, 16:16 because they know what I believe on this. 16:20 Hitler had a point 16:22 in that he wanted to restore Germany's fortunes. 16:26 Hitler had been given, you know, 16:28 a terrible deal after the First World War. 16:31 Germany you mean? Yes, yes. 16:32 And well, Hitler fought in there 16:34 and Hitler had been given a bad deal too, 16:36 he was a little corporal back there. 16:39 But Germany was treated very badly by the Isles, 16:42 by Britain, and France, and United States of America. 16:46 Well, they did lose the war after all. 16:47 Yeah, they did lose the war 16:49 and we believe that they started it. 16:51 Their economy was in shambles. 16:53 They were driven into the ground. 16:55 There was macro inflation. 16:57 Yes. Hyperinflation. 16:58 I mean up to on a million percent or something. 17:02 Go to the store to buy some groceries 17:04 with the wheelbarrow full of bills. 17:06 Yes, yes. Literally. 17:07 And if you did it in the morning, 17:09 it was better than the afternoon. 17:10 Because in the afternoon, you needed two wheelbarrows. 17:13 Two wheelbarrows, yes. 17:14 And so Hitler wanted to make... 17:16 Restore the glory, the legitimate glory... 17:21 Of the nation. 17:22 Of Germany, the nation. Sure. 17:24 And so he was saying some nice things 17:26 about the church, 17:28 and he was against decadence. 17:30 And the Christians, you say 80%, 17:33 I say 95% of the Catholics and the Lutherans. 17:38 And the Protestants, yeah. 17:39 And not only the Lutherans, 17:40 all of the Protestants got behind him, 17:45 and shouted Sieg Heil. 17:47 They put their trust in princess. 17:49 Yes. 17:50 Well, the Psalms and other places 17:52 the Bible's so clear. 17:54 And I think the message of Revelation which, 17:57 remember is a Jewish book picks up on those... 17:59 Of course, it is. It picks up on those themes. 18:01 Say that again, how do you know 18:02 it's a Jewish book? 18:04 Well, the writer of it was Jewish. 18:06 And, but, of course, Jesus wasn't Jewish. 18:08 And the language and imagery of it 18:11 is all filled with allusions to 18:13 and quotes from the Jewish Bible. 18:15 It's all the Old Testament. Right. 18:16 The Book of Revelation is based on the Old Testament. 18:18 So these messages of Revelation 13, 14 the whole, 18:22 mark of the beast passage. 18:23 Let me before you get on to this, 18:25 but what was Jesus Jewish? 18:27 Yeah, He was. 18:29 You're sure about that. 18:30 Yes. 18:32 Well, this is what I tell my family, you know, 18:34 how can you give me a hard time for being a Christian 18:36 when I'm believing in a Jewish Messiah? 18:40 Yes. You know. 18:41 Now you're a Jewish gentleman who believes in Jesus. 18:45 I've been called worse than gentlemen 18:46 but thank you, John. 18:47 and we're being nice here today, Alan. 18:49 And you come from New York? 18:51 I do. 18:52 A Jewish attorney from New York. 18:53 Yes. 18:55 What are you doing on my program? 18:57 You invited me. 18:59 Of course. 19:00 What were you thinking, John? 19:02 We have a Jewish heritage. 19:04 Our Lord was Jewish. 19:05 All of the apostles were Jewish. 19:08 The Ten Commandments are Jewish. 19:11 The Book of Revelation is Jewish. 19:13 All the New Testament except for Luke was written by Jewish. 19:15 Yes, indeed. 19:17 Luke and Acts. 19:18 And so now you're talking about the mark of the beast. 19:23 Let me ask you this. 19:27 Not only are you an attorney, 19:31 but you have a special burden 19:35 in your soul 19:38 to defend religious liberty rights 19:42 and also 19:44 the rights of people not to worship. 19:47 That's been my calling, yes. 19:50 And you defend Mormon. 19:53 We defend people of all faith. 19:54 And Jehovah Witnesses, 19:56 but you wouldn't defend Muslims, would you? 19:58 I have some Muslims clients. 20:01 You have some Muslim clients? I do. 20:03 Yes, of course, that's the Christian viewpoint, 20:05 isn't it, to defend the weak? 20:08 That is the ultimate Christian viewpoint. 20:10 That's what Jesus would do. 20:12 We practice the golden rule, John. 20:13 Of course. 20:15 You know, 20:16 we believe that everyone has the freedom of conscience. 20:18 Yes. 20:20 And, you know, well, 20:22 if someone suffered religious discrimination, 20:24 we will represent them. 20:27 Yes, let me ask you this, 20:29 because I don't want to throw this away too quickly. 20:34 Did Hitler seem to be the savior of his people 20:38 and of the Christian church? 20:40 He was regarded as such. 20:44 Now, as you know, 20:45 because of your Jewish background, 20:51 Hitler was totally opposed to socialism. 20:54 True. 20:56 I'm opposed to socialism. 20:58 Okay, that doesn't make you a Nazi? 21:01 No, no. 21:02 Thank you, Alan, you're getting back at me now. 21:07 Hitler saw the evils of communism, 21:11 socialism, Marxism 21:14 as a tremendous threat 21:17 to the Christian heritage. 21:19 And that's why he hated Russia so much. 21:22 Now, I've been to Russia and Ukraine 49 times. 21:25 I know socialism. 21:27 I know communism, 21:28 philosophically and theologically, 21:30 I am opposed to socialism, 21:33 and communism, all of those things. 21:35 Now, Hitler was opposed to socialism and communism. 21:40 And because there were a few Jews 21:42 who were in favor of socialism 21:45 and for other reasons, 21:47 he became opposed to the Jews. 21:49 I'm not sure that's why he scapegoated the Jews. 21:53 I think it goes a lot deeper than that. 21:55 Tell me more. 21:56 He was envious? 21:58 You know, 22:01 authority, the authoritarian 22:04 impulse needs to have an enemy. 22:07 Yes, it does, a scapegoat. 22:10 The Jews were the convenient scapegoat. 22:12 Yes, we've got to find some bad guy. 22:15 Who was going to be blamed 22:17 for what happened to Germany. 22:20 Yes. He blamed the Jews. 22:21 Yes. 22:22 And so what Hitler did, 22:24 he picked out these people 22:26 because they became in their own language, 22:29 a convenient scapegoat. 22:33 And so he persecuted them. 22:37 And he did this for the good of Germany 22:39 and for the good of the world. 22:42 At least that's how it appeared in the eyes of some people. 22:45 Now you were referring a moment ago, 22:47 Alan, to the prophecy of Revelation 13 22:51 about the mark of the beast. 22:52 Can you tell me more? 22:54 Without getting into the speculation 22:56 about the literal or symbolic, 22:59 you know, what the mark is or how its manifest. 23:04 What gentiles tend to miss is that 23:09 this is a counterfeit of what the Torah says. 23:13 And the Torah which are the five books of Mosses. 23:16 Tell me more about this? 23:18 Three times 23:19 God commands the Jewish people 23:21 to put His teaching in the forehead, 23:25 in the hand, and the way they did that, 23:27 they call it phylacteries or little boxes 23:30 that you put little Torah scroll, 23:32 little scroll inside of and you wrap it 23:35 around your head and you pray with it on. 23:38 In Exodus was the first time, in Exodus 13, 23:42 then in Deuteronomy 6 and Deuteronomy 11. 23:44 So if you want to know what the mark of the beast 23:46 is a counterfeit of, 23:48 we have to look at, what was the genuine, 23:51 what was the point of putting God's instruction 23:55 on the forehead and the hand? 23:57 And the Exodus story is really the story of the plan 24:01 of salvation of the gospel itself. 24:04 Deliverance from slavery in Egypt to the Promised Land. 24:07 It's the whole shoot and match, really. 24:10 And in Deuteronomy 6, you have what's known as the Shema, 24:14 it's the central declaration of Judaism. 24:17 Hear, O Israel, the Lord is our God, 24:20 the Lord is one. 24:22 And it's a statement, 24:23 and you shall love the Lord your God 24:25 with all your heart, soul and strength. 24:27 And these words which I command you this day, 24:29 you shall teach them to your children. 24:32 You walk by the way, and you know, 24:34 rise and fall and bind them 24:37 as a sign on the doorpost of your house, 24:39 your forehead and your hand. 24:41 So, to counterfeit, the Shema, 24:44 to counterfeit in the mark of the beast 24:47 is really about, who do you belong to. 24:50 You know, we're told, we belong to God, 24:52 we're in relationship to God. 24:54 He's our God, we're His people, 24:56 and we love God and we put our trust in God. 25:00 The mark of the beast is all about a counterfeit, 25:02 where we've let go of putting our faith, 25:06 the church is no longer relying 25:08 on the power of God and trust in God. 25:10 It's now relying on the beast 25:13 and its allegiance is in the beast, 25:15 its trust is in the beast. 25:16 That's why it's the mark of the beast. 25:19 So the mark of the beast 25:21 ultimately is a denial of the concept 25:26 that we trust in God alone. 25:29 But now we're going to trust in the state. 25:31 Is this what you're saying? 25:33 It's not so much a denial of the concept, 25:35 but the reality. 25:36 It's the reality that... 25:37 You know, look, we can say we believe in God 25:40 and we trust in God, you know, 25:42 but is that how we live our lives? 25:45 So people who in the last days, 25:47 who are getting the mark of the beast, 25:51 they'll be spreading a lot of religious talk? 25:53 Yes. 25:54 They'll be talking, probably praising Jesus. 25:56 Yes. 25:57 Do you think they'll be praising Jesus? 25:59 Absolutely, Jesus warned us 26:01 that they will be doing it in His name. 26:03 Praising Jesus. Yes. 26:05 But they get the mark of the beast? 26:06 Yes. 26:07 And the mark of the beast is the mark of the antichrist. 26:10 Well, now you're bringing in another 26:11 whole concept of antichrist. 26:13 Bearing the number of the mark of the beast is a bad thing, 26:15 isn't it? Yes, it certainly is. 26:17 Because those who get it 26:18 according to Revelation 14 will face 26:21 the wrath of God poured out undiluted, full strength. 26:25 Now, you know, the wrath of the beast is one thing, 26:29 the wrath of the state, you know, 26:31 I don't relish the wrath of the state. 26:34 No, we don't. 26:35 But the wrath of God... 26:37 That's million times worse. 26:39 Undiluted, you know, 26:41 his pinky or His hand... 26:42 Yeah. But full strength. 26:44 The wrath of the Almighty God 26:46 poured out upon those who violate... 26:49 But this is why I laugh at the whole notion 26:52 of the battle of Armageddon 26:53 because how do you fight against God? 26:55 You know, you're gonna get some nuclear missile, 26:57 rocket launchers and fight against God. 27:00 I mean, it's absurd. 27:02 Of course, it is. 27:03 Now, in our next segment, 27:05 we're going to go back a little bit 27:06 to religious intolerance. 27:10 We're going to talk about that a little more. 27:11 We've started in this segment, we're going to follow this up 27:14 after we have a break. 27:17 But then I'm going to read to you, Alan, 27:19 and have your commentary on Revelation 13, 27:23 that talks... 27:25 Wait for it, 27:26 not just the mark of the beast, 27:29 but the image of the beast. 27:32 If I say to you, your son is the image of you. 27:37 That means he looks like you. 27:38 So the image of the beast 27:41 is the copy of the antichrist power 27:45 that is portrayed in the scriptures. 27:47 When my son would get frustrated with me, 27:50 I would say, and he'd call me names, 27:52 I'd say, well, you know what you are? 27:54 You're the son of... 27:55 You're the image of... 27:57 We'll be back in a few moments. 27:59 We're talking today to Attorney Alan Reinach, 28:02 and we're talking about 28:04 religious liberty threatened today in America. 28:08 Stay with us. 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