Participants: Cheri Peters (Host), Craig DeMartino
Series Code: CLR
Program Code: CLR00069A
00:10 Welcome to Celebrating Life in Recovery
00:11 I'm Cheri your host.
00:13 Have you ever thought about, when does recovery end?
00:15 When are you done? When have you done all the steps?
00:18 When can you relax and sit down?
00:20 That is what we are going to talk about today and it
00:21 absolutely the coolest to answer.
00:23 You got to come and join us.
00:53 You know when I first got into recovery I thought that
00:56 there was going to be a time where I could
00:57 just relax about all that.
00:58 At first I thought I would just have to stop doing
01:01 heroine and my recovery would be over.
01:04 Somebody said that if you stop everything is going to
01:07 be okay, well I stopped and I stood there and thought
01:10 wow I wonder if okay feels like this?
01:12 It did not feel okay to me and then I realized that I had
01:16 to do one more thing, and I had to learn how to live
01:20 with out drugs and then I had to learn something else.
01:23 Then I had to learn something else and then we talked about,
01:26 on the season, I ended up with leukemia,
01:29 being diagnosed with cancer.
01:30 Then it is another whole gig so it is really interesting to
01:34 me that in my mind I thought recovery was just doing a
01:37 specific thing for a specific reason.
01:40 Like eating right and living right and sleeping right in
01:44 order to not do the heroine.
01:46 Then I realized that it really is learning life skills so
01:49 that what ever hits me doesn't take me down.
01:51 I want you to really pay attention to this program
01:54 because what is really interesting to me is there is
01:57 nobody that I know that isn't getting hit with something.
02:01 The people that I am falling in love with lately, they get
02:04 hit and they stand back up.
02:06 It is absolutely amazing. So we are going to talk about that.
02:09 I am going to introduce you to a friend of mine, man,
02:11 you are going to be blessed.
02:13 So come on up.
02:15 You know I wanted to say, welcome to the show.
02:17 Thank you, thank you so much for asking me.
02:19 The first time I heard your story I was flipping through,
02:23 I think, U-Tube or something.
02:25 I all of a sudden ran across your testimony and it stopped
02:29 me because I thought I am dealing with a lot of things in
02:32 my life and yet I am looking at you thinking Man!
02:37 So Craig! I'm glad I could do that for you.
02:42 DeMartino and I want you to introduce yourself,
02:46 but not from the point where everybody thinks you're
02:49 going to start, but how did you grow up, who are you?
02:54 That is so fun because it all builds into where
02:57 it ended up anyway.
02:58 Craig DeMartino, born in
03:01 Pennsylvania and grew up a
03:04 typical regular, nothing crazy brother, sister youngest kid.
03:08 I think probably favored a little bit but that is okay too.
03:12 I went to college.
03:14 I married the baby of the family, they are so different.
03:17 We're nice, forget it, it's good.
03:19 It's good to be favorite.
03:20 Went to college and graduated with a degree in photography.
03:24 I wasn't a Christian at that time and didn't go to church.
03:28 I basically did what ever I wanted to do.
03:30 It wasn't bad, I wasn't doing anything out of the ordinary,
03:35 other than partying, doing the regular stuff.
03:38 I was definitely focused on me.
03:40 I went to college and then started to work for Associated
03:43 Press and went into journalism mostly, doing photo
03:47 journalism as I got out of school.
03:49 I did that for about eight years and then decided to start
03:52 my own small photo studio in Philadelphia and I did that.
03:55 About that same time a friend of mine was getting married.
03:58 He wanted to have this bachelor party, typical.
04:02 He said but we are going to go rock climbing.
04:05 I was like that is odd, but it is better than strip club
04:09 or whatever, so we went rock climbing.
04:11 So were you a rock climber at the time?
04:12 Not even close, I mean I had seen maybe on National
04:15 Geographic and thought that was insane but no inkling
04:18 to go do it, nothing I didn't know any climbers.
04:21 We went out, he had a friend who was a climber,
04:23 and we went out to this little place in Pennsylvania.
04:26 This real scrappy little cliff and we went climbing.
04:29 It was the first time, my brother was an amazing
04:32 football player and I was really good at art,
04:34 so you see how that would work.
04:37 My dad loved...
04:39 Your dad was like is he gay. Gay Gosh!
04:45 I tried it, I try to play football and they all
04:48 hit you and that is not fun so I was never really
04:51 into sports in school.
04:52 So I went into climbing, and climbing made sense to me.
04:55 All of a sudden it was like click, this light went off.
04:58 I start to pursue it more.
04:59 So you loved it right away?
05:01 I loved at the very first day, while I want to know more
05:03 about this, how this stuff works,
05:05 and I wanted to learn, learn, learn.
05:06 There are a lot of different disciplines in climbing.
05:09 There is rock climbing, which is going straight up a Cliff.
05:12 There is ice climbing, which is going up frozen waterfalls.
05:16 Then there's big wall climbing, which is stuff that takes
05:20 more than a day like El Capitan in Yosemite, large walls
05:23 were it takes multiple days.
05:24 Then there is bouldering, where you climb up a rope and
05:27 climb as far as it is comfortable falling.
05:29 You do not want to fall, that is different for everybody.
05:33 It is really interesting, because I never have looked at
05:36 something and say how bad can I get hurt.
05:38 And how far could I climb?
05:39 How far can I go down before I get hurt?
05:42 That is bouldering, evaluating those risks.
05:45 So I thought I want to be good in all these disciplines.
05:48 I want to do it all, so I did.
05:49 I started to learn everything I could and climbing in
05:52 Pennsylvania was very limiting so I would go up to New York
05:55 climbing in the Shaw gunk's where I learned to climb
06:00 a lot of multi-like pitches routes.
06:01 This is more than one rope laying, most ropes at that time
06:04 were 150 feet, so you can do the math.
06:07 So 300 feet you have to break into two.
06:09 I just start to really fall in love with the whole
06:12 process of moving upward.
06:13 That is what I love about planning is that you are
06:15 problem-solving vertically, that is all you are doing.
06:17 It is very fun and independent thing.
06:20 And in that moment, it's like if I hang in here I am figuring
06:24 out where is my foot going to go next?
06:26 I'm not thinking I'm wondering if the checkbook is balanced.
06:29 I'm focused on the 4 feet around me.
06:32 I think it's beautiful thing to boil your life
06:35 down to that clarity.
06:36 I absolutely loved it and I went out to Yosemite to climb
06:39 with some... It's beautiful. It is.
06:41 Yes it's beautifully, you see this amazing creation there.
06:45 You see the small details, I mean you see plants that grow
06:48 on the sides of 2000 foot cliffs that are coming
06:51 out of a crack, it is like how did they get there?
06:53 You see the swallows that fly on the cliffs.
06:55 You see the animals that move in the cliffs.
06:57 It is an amazing place to be.
06:58 So that became my passion and I loved it.
07:02 I pursued it wholeheartedly, my job fell to the wayside
07:05 and I am a photographer by trade and that is what I do.
07:08 I loved doing that but climbing became this thing where
07:12 this is what I want to be doing so I went out west and
07:16 started climbing out West some.
07:18 I just fell in love with it.
07:19 I came through Colorado to visit an old school
07:22 friend of mine and her husband.
07:23 She said, come and crash on our floor for a while and I did
07:26 that as I was driving back to Philly.
07:27 As I look back, I go Ah this is when God was really doing
07:32 stuff and I had no idea.
07:34 And I was like whatever.
07:35 I was doing my thing and came back through and stayed with
07:37 her and she showed me around Colorado a little bit.
07:40 Just in that front Range area and I fell in love with it.
07:42 Incredible climbing place? Incredible climbing place!
07:44 I took a pen and put it on a map and drew a 50 mile circle
07:48 around Ft. Collins, Loveland area which was where I lived.
07:51 I said okay what is around there, and with in that 50 mile
07:54 radius there were four or five major climbing areas.
07:57 Areas that people go to once in a lifetime.
08:00 I thought that is where want to live.
08:01 So I went home to Philadelphia and thought how do I do this?
08:06 So I just thought I'll pack all my stuff up and go there
08:10 and get a job I guess.
08:12 So I went to Barnes & Noble in Philly where I was living and
08:16 got a paper and went through the Sunday paper from Denver.
08:20 The Denver Post and there was a photography job which never
08:24 happens, you just don't find photography jobs.
08:26 This company in Loveland Colorado.
08:28 So it's perfect?
08:29 I'm not even sure where that is, I had heard of it.
08:32 I called my friend and said where is Loveland and she said
08:34 it's the next town over.
08:35 It's a Christian company and I'm like that is weird,
08:38 but I really want to move there so I'll call them.
08:41 I called them up and they say we closed the process already.
08:45 I said but did you fill it?
08:47 They said no, but I said, can I send my book out?
08:49 And they said yes so I sent my portfolio.
08:51 The art director wanted a secular person.
08:54 He didn't just say that's to the people there.
08:56 They look at my book and he said that's the guy.
08:58 We want that guy.
09:00 So they call me back and we would like to fly
09:01 you out for an interview.
09:03 At the time I had hair down to here, and I thought I should
09:06 clean up so I cut my hair and fly out there.
09:09 My whole thought process is I'll work for them for two
09:12 months, quit and they will pay my moving expenses
09:16 and it'll be awesome.
09:17 So I get out there and they hire me and everything is great.
09:20 They moved me out and I was doing my thing and I meet
09:24 two guys who are climbers.
09:25 They are like, why don't you come climb with us?
09:27 We go out and we are climbing, this is about a month into
09:32 the whole process of me working there.
09:33 The one guy says, have you ever worked for a
09:35 Christian company before?
09:37 I said no, no.
09:39 Your like I would not have done that.
09:41 He said okay here are a few tips, number one you have to
09:44 stop swearing because they get really upset.
09:48 To me from Philadelphia it was my vernacular,
09:53 I just didn't know.
09:54 That is really funny to me because it wasn't that you were
09:58 being rude by swearing, this was just my language.
10:00 F- word was to me an adjective, it was everything to me.
10:04 It worked it did people understood when I said it.
10:07 So I said that's okay it's good to know.
10:10 He said second of all do you even believe in
10:12 what they believe in?
10:14 I'm like, I don't even know what they believe,
10:16 because when they hired me the owner said to me,
10:18 do you know you are going to work for a Christian company?
10:22 I said yes, she said, do you have a problem with that?
10:26 I was like, no as long as you do not have a problem with me.
10:30 As you know a typical, we're cool as long as everybody knows
10:34 where everybody is.
10:35 She said, no we are fine with that.
10:37 She's laughing herself and I'm laughing at myself thinking
10:40 I'm getting over on them.
10:41 So we go through this process and slowly it was open to me
10:45 that I started to work in these churches and photograph
10:49 these youth groups, youth leaders and pastor's.
10:51 I would listen to them talk and I would think, man,
10:53 they have something I don't have.
10:55 I want that and what is that, it is not tangible.
10:58 I do not know what it is.
10:59 I would listen to them talk and listen to their sermons and
11:02 am like, oh I get it, this is a God thing.
11:05 God just slowly worked on my heart and at the time
11:08 I was with Cindy, who later became my wife.
11:11 We were living together.
11:12 So I slowly, we were in college so I slowly introduced
11:16 this information I am getting on a daily basis.
11:19 I'm saying what you think about this?
11:20 What do you think about that?
11:21 I'm thinking she is going to run, but she slowly is like
11:24 that is making sense too.
11:27 So we slowly went down the path together and I thought wow
11:30 were living together, probably we shouldn't do that.
11:33 So we got married and started our faith journey together,
11:37 and started our marriage together,
11:39 it was around the same time.
11:40 So it was cool to get into it and learn together
11:43 and grow together, and we got to a point where
11:46 we were very comfortable.
11:48 It was about two years into our marriage.
11:49 I just have to say for a lot of people they have to grab
11:52 you by the throat and say you stop living together,
11:54 and God says I'll take care of it and I will do it in a way
11:58 that is just gentle and they will know that they are loved.
12:02 It is a whole another thing and I love hearing when
12:06 God does that when someone.
12:07 It just opens your eyes, all the sudden,
12:09 you go, this is wrong.
12:10 You shouldn't do this.
12:11 Not because the group said hey, knock it off, because they
12:15 knew we were living together.
12:16 People knew that, and yet to us with our background,
12:19 it was like what's wrong, were saving money.
12:23 It is actually better than just being casual,
12:26 we are making a commitment, in a worldly sense it actually
12:30 is that you have done the right thing.
12:31 We are saying that I'm going to be with you no matter what.
12:34 We just didn't have that piece of paper.
12:37 We go get married and have a beautiful wedding,
12:39 and our faith grows, everything is great.
12:42 We have our first child, she is awesome and we get even
12:46 tighter, our faith grows.
12:47 After our second child is born our faith hit this plateau,
12:54 we were solid and I believe God had a plan for me.
12:57 I believed all those things but it was very comfortable.
13:01 It was also one of where I would move things around,
13:06 I would say God is important to me, but if it is really sunny
13:09 I'm probably going to go climb instead of go to church.
13:12 If I had the opportunity do something else,
13:15 I'm going to go and do something else.
13:16 I work in a Christian company and I am getting enough stuff,
13:21 it's covered and that was very comfortable to me.
13:24 I saw nothing wrong with it and everything was cool.
13:28 All of a sudden July 21 rolls around of 02 and everything
13:34 comes to a screeching stop because then everything explodes
13:40 apart from me.
13:41 That was when I understood where my faith really was,
13:45 I think.
13:46 Do you want to explain what happened, or do you want to do
13:50 the roll-in and then come back to it?
13:52 I think it would be better if I explained it,
13:56 because if they watch that roll-in,
13:58 they are going to go what?
13:59 So we will show that later go ahead and explain
14:01 what happened on that day.
14:02 You are climbing like crazy.
14:03 Climbing like a fool, just climbing a ton, five days a week
14:07 All over the country, everywhere.
14:09 Cindy and I climbed together all the time.
14:11 Cindy was my best partner up until we had children and then
14:15 we had to tag team stuff.
14:16 What we would do is Cindy would do something one day,
14:18 and I would watch the kids, and then I would do something
14:20 the next day, and she would watch the kids.
14:22 It was awesome, we just worked it all out.
14:25 Climbing partners from people at work? Absolutely!
14:27 Partners at work in the guy who I was climbing with this
14:30 particular day was an older climber who I had met.
14:32 He is a great guy and a good friend.
14:33 Cindy the day before had run a marathon up in the mountains
14:37 up in Leadville, she had run a 50 K. so she was just tired.
14:41 She had run for eight hours basically.
14:43 So I got up and fed the kids breakfast and my friend Steve
14:46 shows up and we pile all the gear in, I kissed everybody
14:49 and Cindy says goodbye and we head up to the mountains,
14:52 Rocky Mountain National Park.
14:53 We are driving up there thinking what we want to do and we
14:56 had a route in mind.
14:58 So we get up there, pack all our stuff and just take off.
15:01 We wanted to climb about 4 miles in the backcountry so we
15:04 hiked back in and it took about 45 minutes to get back
15:07 to the base and we wanted to climb this route on a spiral
15:10 called Sundance Buttress, which is about 1000 feet.
15:13 It will probably take most the day but we thought if we
15:16 really hauled we could get up it pretty quickly.
15:17 So we start off and I felt as we were going out it was weird.
15:20 In retro speck I think I felt really bad that day.
15:23 I felt just weird, but some times when I am nervous about
15:26 climbing, before I do a climb, I get this weird,
15:29 a little bit off and I thought that is all it was.
15:31 And you need to work past that?
15:33 You get used to dealing with fear and compartmentalize,
15:37 saying, okay I don't need that right now,
15:40 so put it behind me.
15:41 Tied in and got everything ready and started up the route.
15:44 We got about three pitches, so roughly 4 or 500 feet,
15:48 somewhere like that.
15:49 We are under a really big roof and we are watching this storm
15:52 come across the valley.
15:53 He and I are just sitting there and as we are talking,
15:55 it starts to get really windy and this is July.
15:58 It's hot and all of a sudden it gets dark and we are watching
16:01 these clouds and it just opens up and starts the hail,
16:04 the rain, grapple, starts blowing all over the place.
16:07 And we are like okay this is nice and were hanging under the
16:10 roof so we are still dry, but we realize we are not going
16:13 to be able to go up because the rocks are wet.
16:15 We rig everything for repelling and we start
16:17 to work our way down.
16:18 Repelling for someone who doesn't know,
16:20 that is just pulling yourself down. Yeah!
16:21 Repelling is basically running the rope through the anchors
16:24 that are there, which are usually bolts are driven into
16:26 the rock on routes like this that are popular.
16:28 You just click your rope through that and repel down,
16:31 pull your rope to the next station and you keep
16:34 repeating that process.
16:35 So three repels and we are back to the ground.
16:38 We get on the ground and the Sun comes back out.
16:41 So we eat some food and walk up the cliff a little bit and
16:44 there were some single pitch climbs, 150 foot climbs
16:47 scattered up the rock.
16:49 My friend Steve knew some of the climbs.
16:51 One of them was a harder route and it was dry and he
16:54 said do you want to try that?
16:56 I thought that would be cool.
16:57 I get my gear together and as we were walking up we said
17:00 climbing has a vernacular just like every sport.
17:03 We were going to top rope, top rope means a person is
17:06 going to go up and anchor the rope at the top of the climb.
17:09 The person down here, but rope is like this so that person is
17:11 lowered and then he belays from the ground.
17:13 Belay is when it runs through a stitch plate and that is how
17:17 you stop the person from falling.
17:18 I was going to go up and he was going to lower me.
17:20 Then Steve would climb and I would belay him from the ground.
17:23 We would do that is many times as they wanted.
17:26 Someone has to go first and get the rope up there.
17:28 Well I never clarified that with Steve,
17:31 He said top rope, so I just heard top rope.
17:33 I tied in and got my gear and started up the rock.
17:36 I get up to the ledge and the ledge was right at 94 feet.
17:40 When I say ledge it wasn't like this, it was about 2 inches,
17:44 it was a fold in the rock,
17:46 and there were two bolts driven in.
17:48 Got on that ledge and clipped in, and again part of that
17:51 vernacular is off belay, and I'm off belay.
17:54 He said okay, and here is where we really separated.
17:58 He took me off belay, which means he took the rope out.
18:02 Now we are not attached anymore, I'm attached to the rock.
18:06 Clipped in with two pieces of webbing,
18:07 hanging from these bolts.
18:09 I am getting the rope ready to run through the anchor
18:12 because I think he's going to lower me to the ground.
18:15 What he thought was, Craig is going to bring me up to the
18:18 ledge, and we will repel off together like we had just done.
18:21 But we never talked about that, so he went to his backpack,
18:23 got his shoes and was tying his shoes to climb up.
18:27 So I get everything ready to lower and I yell down,
18:30 hey I'm ready it's all you.
18:33 He yells up okay, I hear okay.
18:35 He is not hooked in and I go like that and look.
18:38 He says okay, okay great so I unclip, pull in the anchor to
18:43 un-weight it and unclip myself and push.
18:46 When I push back I realize I'm falling.
18:49 So sometimes...
18:51 Because usually you would feel the person holding on.
18:54 As soon as I push off the anchor I feel the weight,
18:57 I feel the weight going to the rope.
18:58 Previously, when I had been lowered, sometimes there's slack
19:02 in the system, and climbing ropes are dynamic.
19:05 They stretch about 15% of their length, so sometimes you get
19:08 rope stretch, sometimes there's just slack in the system.
19:10 The person may be stepping back from the cliff
19:12 and they tripped or something.
19:13 I'm okay there's just a lot of slack,
19:15 and it's going to go tight in a second here.
19:17 I'm watching the anchor go, and I'm like no it's not
19:20 going to go tight and I just looked.
19:22 From bouldering, without a rope, when you come off of
19:24 something you push to get away from the rock.
19:27 Because you don't want to hit the rock?
19:28 You don't want to hit the rock,
19:29 you don't want to break your ankles.
19:30 You want to see where you are going, so I did that,
19:32 that was my first reaction was to push,
19:34 and I pushed and turned and I saw the hillside over here.
19:37 I remember the clarity, I can still tell you the trees,
19:40 boulders, everything, I
19:42 mean I can see everything.
19:44 I'm like nope I'm still going and the next thing I realize
19:48 is that I am on my back looking back up at the climb I had
19:52 just done, I could see everything.
19:53 Steve is in my Peripheral vision screaming at me.
19:56 What had happened was, as I went, pushed, as I tipped back,
20:00 I was falling like that and basically got horizontal.
20:04 If you hit the ground, my feet were at 94 feet,
20:06 my head was around 100 feet.
20:10 To hit the ground going that fast sideways everything
20:13 would just crush and explode and you would die instantly.
20:16 Well as I was coming back there was a dead tree and I hit
20:19 the tree with my face and it's scraped me up like that.
20:21 But as it's scraped me it also stood me and so I landed
20:24 actually standing straight up and down on the talus.
20:27 The talus for people who don't know, talus is blocks about
20:31 the size of this table actually but jumbled, so they had come
20:34 off a cliff at one point and they get all jumbled and it
20:37 is very uneven and I hit those rocks and crumbled into those
20:41 and fell backwards.
20:42 Didn't have a helmet on, because they don't wear a helmet
20:45 when I climb, even to this day I don't wear helmet.
20:48 But I crumbled down and fell backwards and my feet took
20:50 the brunt of everything.
20:51 When I hit the ground, I hit it so hard that my shoes,
20:54 my climbing shoes exploded.
20:56 I shattered both my feet were shattered and dislocated.
21:00 They came out of the skin.
21:02 Then my back snapped at L2, I hit so hard that L2 actually
21:06 disintegrated, it disappeared and blew into my spinal canal.
21:09 Then the shock wave went up and broke my neck at C6 and
21:13 punctured my lung, I broke my ribs, I busted this,
21:16 I broke the collar bone.
21:18 It's just like everything broke all the way down?
21:21 The shock wave just rips right out of your body because
21:22 it has to exit somehow.
21:24 I just crumbled onto the ground and there I am laying.
21:27 And still aware.
21:29 Still aware very much awake, but I was very confused.
21:33 When I realized what was going on, I didn't even know
21:37 I fell at first and he is screaming at me.
21:39 He is trying to get the bleeding stopped because I broke,
21:40 I tore through the arteries in my feet.
21:42 He is trying to get the bleeding stopped
21:44 and to keep me awake.
21:45 So he is not panicking, he is doing as much as he can.
21:49 We get the bleeding slowed and he puts a tourniquet on my
21:53 legs and he realizes we are four miles in the backcountry.
21:58 We're out here, he's going to die.
22:02 He realizes I need to run the 4 miles.
22:06 I can't even imagine, I mean he loves you, you are friends?
22:10 Yeah were good friends and end he is realizing, there is
22:13 blood all over the place, his legs are annihilated,
22:16 I know that he is really hurt and probably has internal
22:19 injuries and I keep telling him how bad my back hurts.
22:21 My feet were so broken I couldn't even feel them.
22:24 I said please get me off these rocks.
22:28 So he sticks, now I have no back, my neck is broken,
22:31 he sticks his arms under here and he drags me down
22:35 the talus to some dirt to get me level again.
22:37 And lays me there and gets me as comfortable as he can.
22:40 He realizes he has to run to the truck, drive to town,
22:44 get help and come back.
22:45 Probably at least an hour and a half to do that.
22:50 I'm losing blood constantly.
22:52 So he gets up and he takes off, we agreed that was
22:56 the best thing to do.
22:58 He gets his shoes and starts to go and gets about 20 yards
23:02 down the trail and stops turns around and comes back,
23:05 in his backpack he had a cell phone which he never packed
23:07 his cell phone in his life.
23:09 Picks it up, we are next to a thousand foot cliff
23:11 in the backcountry.
23:12 Because you don't take your cell phone because
23:13 you never get a signal.
23:14 You never get signals and we are in the park,
23:16 and he turns his phone on and gets a signal.
23:19 He dials 911 and gets the operator on the first go.
23:21 She is like what happened where are you?
23:23 What is your emergency?
23:24 He goes through the whole thing,
23:26 and she is like okay don't move,
23:27 stay right where you are.
23:28 She patches him through to Rocky Mountain rescue,
23:32 they are the guys that run all the rescues in the park.
23:34 The guy who picks the phone up, his name is Eric.
23:36 Eric is not only the head of Rocky Mountain rescue,
23:39 he is a climber.
23:40 The year before a guy had fallen in the gully next to me
23:45 and died so Eric had done that body carry out.
23:48 He knew exactly what climb I was on, he said he's on this
23:51 climb called White Man and he is at the base of it.
23:54 Eric is like I know where he is. I know exactly where he's at.
23:57 So there is no wasting time, he doesn't have to figure out?
24:00 And the beauty is he doesn't have to run all the way in,
24:03 there is an access road that the Park service
24:05 is allowed to use.
24:06 He drives the access road he is literally at my side in
24:09 40 minutes after I crash.
24:11 He is sitting there saying okay,
24:13 this is how it is going to work.
24:15 The call has already gone out.
24:16 Rocky Mountain rescue is coming in.
24:18 They are trying to do as much as they can to control the
24:21 bleeding, to control the trauma, and I'm waiting and waiting.
24:24 Long story short is that it takes them about five hours
24:27 to get the litter, get me and a litter, get me down
24:31 past the talus field to where they can get me on a trail
24:33 and then take me to a clearing where the chopper can land.
24:37 I fell at 2:30 so they said we have this very small window
24:41 of getting him to a chopper, if we don't get him to a
24:43 chopper, he is probably going to die.
24:45 Now they are not telling me this,
24:46 they are telling each other that.
24:47 The only reason I knew that some thing was screwy was
24:51 he said to me that a certain amount of time had gone by.
24:54 My world is just right here, I'm seeing Eric over here,
24:57 I am looking up and Steve would be there.
24:59 Eric came to me at one point and said, do you want me to
25:02 call your wife?
25:03 I was like no don't call my wife, my gosh don't, no, no, no.
25:07 Thinking that she is going to worry.
25:09 This will freak her out.
25:11 This will freak me out and so I thought don't do that.
25:14 More time goes by and he gets back to my peripheral and says
25:18 Craig what do you think about calling your wife?
25:20 I'm like, why did you ask me twice?
25:23 Then I thought well, that's fine.
25:26 He said later, I figured you were going to die at any moment.
25:30 We were just trying to get you down so we could get you
25:32 in the chopper, but I figured you had lost so much blood,
25:34 so much shock, so much trauma.
25:36 I knew your lungs were busted so that we could not give you
25:38 any med's, because when your lungs are collapsed if they give
25:41 you morphine and it depresses your breathing even more.
25:43 So I just figured this is a matter of time.
25:46 He is so wrecked.
25:48 Cindy gets the call, which is hideous.
25:50 I can't even imagine her getting that call.
25:53 It even makes me want to cry now because I'm thinking, man.
25:57 What a shock it was.
25:58 And her knowing.
26:00 Well he was careful, he said Craig fell,
26:03 his ankles are broken.
26:05 But he didn't say that Craig hit the ground, Craig fell.
26:07 So she thought that I took a big fall and swung into the
26:10 rock and smashed my feet.
26:11 She's like okay, how bad is he hurt?
26:13 He's hurt pretty bad, but they are in the middle of a rescue
26:16 you should probably get up here.
26:18 So she got in her car, remember she had run that race.
26:21 She was really sore and said man I got up there and I ran
26:24 four miles and didn't even think about being sore anymore.
26:27 I just hoofed it in there and she said the scale of the
26:31 rescue is what set her off.
26:32 She was like, why are there so many people here?
26:34 She gets up there and all of a sudden she's in my peripheral
26:38 vision, she said the kids are good.
26:40 She knows what I'm going to be thinking about, the kids,
26:43 wife, what's going on, your confused.
26:45 We talked for a little bit and she told me later I just
26:48 wanted Eric to do his job, I didn't want to talk to you,
26:51 I wanted him to concentrate on getting you down there.
26:55 They get me to the Valley, get me on a wheeled gurney at
26:58 that point and hoof it to a clearing where the helicopter
27:02 literally within 10 minutes is going to shut down and say
27:05 they can't fly out because the cliffs are too close.
27:08 So they get me out to this clearing, chopper lands,
27:11 get to me ready to go, put me into the helicopter,
27:14 and the last thing I remember of that day is that the flight
27:18 nurse looked at me and said have you had any medication?
27:21 I said no, he is like okay.
27:24 I remember seeing him do the syringe, boom that was it.
27:28 I guess from talking to them I have talked with them and
27:32 actually gave them my address and phone number and all
27:35 that fun stuff but I don't remember that.
27:37 The next thing I remember is coming to in intensive care.
27:42 Being tied down and not being able to move.
27:45 Tied down so you don't pull things out.
27:47 Yeah I had a trache tube because I could not breathe on my own.
27:52 So I was tied to the bed at that point is where this roll-in
27:56 will makes sense because they will see me being able
27:59 to talk to the nurse but just talk with my hands and my
28:01 fingers and that was about it.
28:03 We are going to go ahead and take a break.
28:05 We will show the roll-in then come back in.
28:07 That is great.
28:08 I can't even hardly breathe right now.
28:11 We will be right back, stay with us!