Participants: Atonte Myers, Ivor Myers
Series Code: BOF
Program Code: BOF000020
00:15 Welcome to "Battles of Faith".
00:17 We're your hosts Ivor and Antonte Myers.
00:19 Today we are continuing our discussion
00:22 as we study the Bible.
00:23 We're learning how to study the Word of God.
00:26 Today's program is entitled:
00:28 "Nothing New, Only More Detail".
00:31 We're excited about this program because, again,
00:33 we are going to learn principles
00:35 that will help us as we study the Word.
00:37 So, we want you to get your Bibles,
00:39 get your pens, your highlighters,
00:41 everything that you need so that you'll be prepared
00:43 to go through the Bible with us, today.
00:45 - We want to share with our viewers
00:48 that the Word of God is not an unorganized book.
00:53 A lot of times people open it up and say:
00:55 "How do you make sense of this all?"
00:57 We want to show today that the Bible
01:00 is actually made up of principles of how to study
01:04 the Word of God, some really incredible principles
01:09 and the one that we'll be discussing today
01:11 we have called the principle of
01:13 "nothing new, only more detail".
01:16 Some people call this principle 'the principle of magnification
01:20 or repetition and enlargement' and it is really
01:24 an important principle to use when studying the Bible.
01:31 So, that's what we're going to be talking about today.
01:34 - So, if they follow this formula,
01:37 the Bible will really start to make sense.
01:39 - That's right. You can take this principle
01:42 almost like a ruler and just put it out to
01:44 the Word of God and see it in place after place,
01:47 and we're going to do some of that
01:48 today, on the program, so we want you to know
01:52 this is going to be like a real Bible study,
01:54 so, really get your Bibles, if you've got,
01:57 pen and paper if you want to start writing down,
01:58 that would be advisable and we're going to start
02:04 with Genesis 3.
02:06 Let me just illustrate, before we look at Genesis 3,
02:11 this principle of 'nothing new, only more detail'
02:13 in a very simple way; it describes how
02:20 the Word of God is written.
02:22 In the Bible there is nothing new; after a certain portion
02:28 of Scripture there is nothing new, only more detail.
02:31 This principle applies, in particular to
02:34 the book of Genesis 3:15. And we have there
02:42 the story of Adam and Eve and the fall
02:45 and Eve has listened to the serpant, she has eaten from
02:50 the tree, God has now come into the garden
02:54 and He is speaking to Adam and to Eve and to the serpant.
02:57 And in Genesis 3:15 we find the very first prophecy
03:02 in the Bible. It reads as this:
03:06 [text on the screen]
03:18 Here you have the very first prophecy given
03:21 in the entire Bible.
03:23 Well, guess what?
03:24 After this prophecy there is...
03:27 -...nothing new, only more detail.
03:30 - That's right. Nothing new, only more detail.
03:32 The entire Bible is an unfolding of this very verse,
03:36 Genesis 3:15.
03:37 Why do we say that? Genesis 3:15 is speaking
03:40 about the conflict that will take place
03:42 between Christ and Satan.
03:45 It is the great controversy summed up into one verse.
03:50 As you read through the rest of the Old Testament
03:52 and the New Testament you'll find that
03:55 the entire book is simply an outworking
03:59 or an unfolding of this war between good and evil
04:03 with Christ at the head of the forces of good,
04:08 and Satan at the head at the forces of evil.
04:11 So, we said that after Genesis 3:15
04:13 there is nothing new in the Bible, only more detail.
04:18 - So, a new student that's coming to the Word,
04:20 someone who really doesn't know anything the Bible,
04:22 that's the very first thing they need to understand:
04:24 the Word of God is basically based on that one verse,
04:30 the great controversy between Christ and Satan.
04:33 - That's right. What this does is that it kind of brings
04:36 the Bible down into a focus point
04:38 so as we read we're always reading with the context
04:41 of this war between Christ and Satan.
04:44 And we see, okay, everything I'm reading should be
04:47 an unfolding or a different revelation, a different picture
04:51 of this very same verse, this war between good and evil.
04:56 So, we find that this principle is literally true of the Bible,
05:00 in particular of the Old Testament,
05:02 but we also find the same principle in the New Tesatment.
05:05 The New Testament has its first prophecy found in
05:10 Matthew 1:21. - And it says:
05:15 [text on the screen]
05:23 - Okay. This is the first prophecy given
05:25 of the New Testament.
05:26 And, the prophecy of the Old Testament and
05:29 the prophecy of the New Testament,
05:30 I mean, in other words, Matthew 1:21 is really
05:32 an unfolding of Genesis 3:15.
05:37 The coming of this One who was to bruise the head
05:40 of the serpant. So, in Matthew 1:21
05:45 we have this prophecy given that Jesus would come
05:48 but more importantly, Atonte, that He would save His people
05:52 from their sins.
05:55 - Not only is that a prophecy, but it's a wonderful promise
05:58 that we can hold on to each and every day.
06:00 - That's right. Therefore, the entire New Testament
06:02 is an unfolding of Matthew 1:21, the story of how Jesus,
06:08 His birth, death and ressurection
06:11 and ministration on our behalf in heaven
06:15 would save us from our sins.
06:19 - And Matthew 1:21 is still just going deeper
06:22 from Genesis 3:15.
06:24 - That's right. It's an unfolding of this principle.
06:27 So, in the Old Testament we've got
06:29 the unfolding of Genesis 3:15,
06:31 and in the New Testament we've got
06:32 the unfolding of Matthew 1:21.
06:35 Now we're going to expand it a little bit
06:37 and look at the first five books of the Old Testament,
06:41 the first five books of Moses.
06:43 We're going to learn another principle,
06:44 we're going to see it supplied in another way.
06:47 The entire Old Testament is an unfolding of
06:51 the principles found in the first five books of Moses.
06:56 In other words, in the first five books of Moses
06:59 you've got the Gospel story in symbols,
07:03 within laws, and the rest of the Old Testament
07:08 is simply an unfolding of this principles,
07:11 either the acceptance of them or the rejection of them,
07:15 and what happens to those who accepted these principles,
07:18 what happens to those who rejected this principles.
07:21 If you look at a couple of examples,
07:24 for example...in Genesis 3:15, speaking again about
07:29 the coming of Christ, you will find that
07:31 this prophecy is built upon and amplified
07:35 in the book of Daniel 9, where Daniel is giving
07:39 a prophecy of the exact time that Christ was to come.
07:44 So, the prophecy of Daniel 9 is nothing new,
07:47 it's only more detail of that which was found in
07:51 the book of Genesis.
07:53 There was also the prophecy of the sanctuary given
07:55 in Daniel 8:14 and a really good portion of Daniel 8 deals
08:04 with the sanctuary. But the prophecy of sanctuary
08:08 is simply an outgrowth of the book of Leviticus 16
08:15 which explains the sanctuary service,
08:18 in particular the day of atonement
08:20 and the cleansing of the sanctuary.
08:22 So, what do you have there? You have the same principle,
08:25 nothing new in Daniel 9, only more detail.
08:30 We've also got, in Deuteronomy 3:21,
08:35 where God is promising His people
08:37 an entrance into the promissed land.
08:39 Well, this is really a seed of a greater prophecy
08:45 that is picked up in Daniel 2:44
08:47 where the Bible says that God will set His kingdom.
08:51 We're not talking about an earthly kingdom now,
08:54 we're talking about the heavenly kingdom
08:56 will be set up on earth.
08:58 So, in Daniel 2:44, when we read about this prophecy
09:02 of God's kingdom being set up on earth, again
09:06 we understand the principle of nothing new, only more detail.
09:12 And so, as we apply this principle to the Old Testament
09:15 we find that it falls true for almost everything
09:18 that you read; nothing new, only more detail.
09:20 -Now, we can find it in the New Testament as well.
09:23 - That's right. We can find the same principle
09:24 in the New Testament.
09:26 The New Testament is really an unfolding of
09:29 the first five books of the New Testament.
09:33 We're going to learn in another program
09:36 that Moses was actually a type of Jesus.
09:41 And as we have the first five books of Moses,
09:44 so the first five books, Matthew, Mark, Luke,
09:47 John and Acts are all revolving around the second Moses,
09:52 as it were, or Jesus.
09:54 And the rest of the New Testament
09:56 is simply an unfolding of those principles that
10:01 were founded, that were written in the books of
10:04 Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and in the book of Acts.
10:07 It's an unfolding. It's the principle of nothing new,
10:10 only more detail.
10:11 Even when you get down to the book of Revelation.
10:15 Revelation is simply an unfolding of the very prophecies
10:19 found in places like Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21,
10:24 John 5 and also in Acts 1 and 2.
10:28 In Acts 1 and 2 the Bible speaks about the outpouring
10:32 of the Holy Spirit and of the Spirit of God falling
10:36 upon His people, while in the book of Revelation
10:39 we also find that there is going to be an outpouring
10:42 of God's Spirit, a sealing, as it were.
10:45 We find, when we get to the book of Revelation:
10:47 'oh, nothing new, only more detail of what Jesus spoke of
10:51 in Matthew 24'.
10:54 - I know people who won't even open
10:55 the book of Revelation because it's just seems
10:58 so difficult, or sometimes so scarry because
11:00 it's talking about beast and it's using symbols of this,
11:02 symbols of that, and they are just like: 'it's a closed book
11:05 for me because I just don't understand it'.
11:07 But if they begin with this principle
11:09 they can start to peel the onion, if you will,
11:12 and it'll start to make a lot of sense.
11:15 - That's right. Let's look at another principle,
11:17 another example of this.
11:19 In the Old Testament you have the law of God.
11:21 And, the New Testament... Some people say:
11:25 'Oh, the New Testament got rid of the law of God'.
11:27 No, far from it. The New Testament
11:29 is nothing new, only more detail.
11:34 - The law of God is restated in the New Testament.
11:37 - Yes. Not only restated, but also stated in more detail.
11:42 Jesus says: "You have heard it said
11:46 in times passed that thou shalt not commit adultery,
11:49 but I say unto you that if you look after a woman
11:53 to lust after her, you have committed adultery
11:55 already in your heart."
11:56 You see, this principle of the unfolding,
11:59 nothing new, only more detail.
12:01 - Or thou shall not kill, but if you hate your brother
12:04 you've murdered in your heart.
12:06 - The sermon on the mount is an amplification
12:09 of the ten commandments, so, following this principle
12:12 we also realize: "Wait a minute,
12:13 the ten commandments haven't been done away with,
12:15 it's only stated in more detail in the New Testament".
12:19 The first five books of the Old Testament revolve
12:24 around the law of God written on stone.
12:27 The first five books of the New Testament
12:29 revolve around Jesus writing the law of God
12:34 in the hearts of humanity.
12:37 Nothing new, only more detail.
12:40 - Because the New Testament does focus more
12:42 on these things really becoming a part of you,
12:45 spiritually. It takes over more of your life
12:48 than just their ten commandments written on stone.
12:51 - Right. Another example is Genesis 3:21
12:54 where the Bible says God made coats of skin
12:58 for Adam and Eve. Well, where did He make
13:02 these coats of skin from?
13:03 He had to make them from an animal.
13:05 He sacrificed an animal. And, as you look at the
13:08 sanctuary service, the sanctuary service began
13:12 with sacrifice. That was the first step as you went
13:16 through the sanctuary. The first thing that
13:18 had to occur was sacrifice.
13:19 Well, in Genesis 3:21, this sacrificial act was a seed
13:24 for the Old Testament's sanctuary system
13:29 that was going to be put in place.
13:31 It was a nutshell, it was the thing at a distance
13:36 and, as we begin to see this sanctuary service unfold
13:39 in the Old Testament, those who were thinking
13:43 would think that to what God did for Adam and Eve
13:46 as he clothed them with skins.
13:49 So, Christ wants to clothe us
13:51 with His perfect righteousness.
13:54 - That's right. And I can only think that Satan was
13:57 looking on as God had to actually take that first
14:01 sacrifice and clothe them, and I think he started to see
14:05 what the plan of salvation was going to be.
14:07 And I think he was shaking in his boots even then,
14:09 if you will, not that he's actually wearing boots.
14:11 He started to get nervous. - Exactly.
14:13 You think about this sanctuary service,
14:15 and there's sacrifice. This sacrifice began
14:19 the plan of salvation, this sacrifice reveals
14:24 this was the opening step to the plan of salvation.
14:29 Well, in the same way we find in the New Testament
14:32 that the sacrifice of Christ did not complete
14:36 the plan of salvation, it opened it up.
14:38 You see? Nothing new, only more detail.
14:41 Well, you say: "What is Jesus doing now
14:42 if it wasn't completly paid at the cross?"
14:44 Well, the Bible tells us in the book of Hebrews, that
14:46 Jesus has ascended into heaven. He is now our high priest
14:50 and He has begun His work in the heavens
14:53 to redeem mankind. In other words, He is going to finish
14:58 His work in heaven. The work of salvation
15:00 did not end with the sacrifice of Christ. It began with
15:03 the sacrifice of Christ.
15:05 Without that, everything else fails.
15:08 So, again you see this principle of nothing new,
15:11 only more detail really laid out in the Scripture.
15:15 Now, we're going to look at one more example,
15:16 and then we're going to go to the book of Daniel,
15:18 because this is where we really want to see
15:19 this principle in action.
15:21 The book of Revelation operates on this very same principle.
15:25 The first three chapters of Revelation deal with
15:31 the seven churches.
15:33 Now, these seven churches are an unfolding
15:37 of the history of the church of God from
15:41 the ressurection of Christ all the way down
15:44 to the second coming.
15:46 We're going to look at some other principles later on
15:48 to see how we come to that conclusion
15:50 I'll share with you very briefly: that the number 7
15:53 represents a complete cicle of time.
15:56 You've got 7 churches and at the beginning of
15:59 the 7 churches, John sees Jesus as he said:
16:05 "I was dead, and am alive".
16:08 The time spent lets us know that this is shortly after
16:10 His ressurection, that's the beginning of
16:13 the 7 churches and the churches end
16:15 with the prophecy of judgement,
16:17 which lets us know that these 7 churches cover
16:20 a period of time from the ressurection of Christ
16:23 all the way down to the judgement in the last days.
16:27 In order to understand the rest of the book of Revelation
16:31 we must rightly understand those 7 churches.
16:35 In other words, the book of Revelation is nothing new,
16:39 but an unfolding of the history already found in the 7 churches
16:45 in the first prophecy of the book of Revelation.
16:49 - So, what can we look at with the 7 churches?
16:53 How does it begin, with the first church?
16:55 - Okay...we're not even get all the way into these churches,
16:59 but the first curch, meaning the church of Ephesus,
17:01 represents the church in a state of [???].
17:04 The second church represents the church
17:07 in a state of persecution.
17:09 The word 'Smirna' comes from the word 'myrrh'
17:12 which was used as they embalmed the dead.
17:17 As you go down through these churches
17:19 it actually explains the 7 stages
17:22 that the church would go through, from persecution
17:24 to compromise, to coming back to God,
17:28 all the way down to judgement.
17:30 The prophecies of Revelation after that
17:33 really expand, they go back, it's like a cicle,
17:36 it goes back and now you have these 7 seals,
17:38 these 7 trumpets. It goes back and expands
17:41 from a different angle; nothing new, simply more detail
17:46 of the history of the church, because, let's face it,
17:49 the book of Revelation is all about
17:51 how the people of God overcome the beast.
17:54 Nothing more in there, only more detail.
17:57 And again, what it helps to do is that it
17:58 helps to bring the book of Revelation into a more compact,
18:04 focus thing so we can say: "I now know what this book
18:08 is trying to explain to me and, in the understanding of
18:11 the 7 churches and the history of the 7 churches,
18:13 I can begin to look for the things like compropmise,
18:16 where did that come in, the law of God,
18:20 where does that play, Jesus saving His people
18:22 from their sins, how does this play in? Genesis 3,15,
18:25 how does this play in?"
18:26 And you have this continual principle of nothing new,
18:29 only more detail.
18:31 Now, we're going to go to the book of Daniel
18:34 and we're going to actually walk through Daniel.
18:37 There are several prophetic chapters
18:40 in the book of Daniel. There's Daniel 2,
18:42 there's Daniel 7, Daniel 8, Daniel 9, 11 and 12
18:50 that are prophetic chapters.
18:52 There're 12 chapters, but only these,
18:54 I believe I just counted 6 or 7, only these are
18:57 the prophetic portions.
19:01 Now, all of the book of Daniel
19:02 has a last day-scenario application to it,
19:07 but in terms of vision, prophecy and different
19:11 things like that we're talking about the books that are
19:13 specifically prophetical. We're going to begin to see,
19:19 in Daniel, that this principle of nothing new,
19:23 only more detail cuts out a lot of confusion
19:27 that is out there in the world.
19:28 So, let me say this before we get to Daniel.
19:30 Remember, the reason why we are looking at
19:32 how to study the Bible is because
19:34 it is the devil's rule, it is the devil's purpose
19:37 to make the book of Daniel, to make the Bible
19:40 seem like a boring book that makes no sense.
19:43 - Or of confusion... - Or a book of confusion.
19:45 And we're trying to show that, no, the books of the Bible
19:48 are written on laws just as permanent laws,
19:55 just as truthful as real signs, true signs.
20:00 So, let's go ahead now and look at Daniel 2.
20:03 And in Daniel 2 we have an image of a man that...
20:09 rather Nebuchadnezzar has a dream,
20:13 and in this dream
20:14 he sees an image of a man. He doesn't know
20:16 what this dream means, Daniel interprets it.
20:18 Now, we're not going to explain this prophecy,
20:19 we're just going to show this principle of
20:21 nothing new, only more detail.
20:23 In Daniel 2, Daniel explains to Nebucadnezzar that
20:26 what he saw was a statue of a man whose head
20:29 was of gold, his chest and arms of silver,
20:34 his belly and thighs of brass, his legs of iron,
20:38 his toes part iron and part clay.
20:41 Rightly understanding this vision will give us
20:45 an incredible key. Why?
20:46 Because in the rest of the book of Daniel
20:48 there is nothing new, only more detail.
20:54 Once we understand what this image represents,
20:58 which power this image represents,
21:00 the head of gold, who did that represent?
21:02 The chest and arms of silver, who did that represent?
21:04 All the way down to the toes. When we come over to Daniel 7
21:07 we're going to see that Daniel 7 is really
21:09 nothing new, only more detail.
21:13 I'll give you an example.
21:15 The clay of Daniel 2... what does that clay represent?
21:20 Well, according to the Bible, Isaiah 64,8, clay is used
21:24 to represent a people who profess to be gods.
21:28 Isaiah 64,8 says: "you are the potter, we are the clay,
21:31 mold us". It's talking about God's people
21:34 calling themselves the clay.
21:36 Well, this clay statue or this clay image at the bottom,
21:39 or rather towards the end of this prophecy represents
21:44 a kingdom or a power that would profess
21:48 to belong to who? To God.
21:51 That's all we know. If you read the prophecy of Daniel 2
21:55 and those of you who are not familiar with it please read it
21:57 and you will understand what I'm talking about,
21:59 there's a stone cut out without hands that breaks
22:02 this whole statue apart, but it hits the stone
22:04 on the feet mingled with iron and clay.
22:06 Why? Because that is the most offensive part
22:09 of this image to God.
22:11 It is the second coming of Christ that smites this image
22:13 on its feet. Now, let's jump over to Daniel
22:17 7. In Daniel 7 we're going to find that there are
22:20 four kingdoms that are presented,
22:23 just like chapter 2: head of gold,
22:24 chest and arms of silver, belly and thighs of brass,
22:26 legs of iron. In Daniel 7 we've got
22:30 a lion, a bear, a leopard and a non-descript beast.
22:39 If we put those two side by side,
22:42 you know what we're going to find?
22:43 They actually correspond.
22:45 The head of gold is none other that the lion.
22:47 The chest and arms are none others than the bear.
22:51 The belly and thighs are none other than the leopard,
22:55 and the legs of iron, none other than
22:59 that fourth none-descriptive beast.
23:02 Now, notice this. The beast has how many horns?
23:05 - Ten horns! - The beast has ten horns,
23:12 but in the book of Daniel 2, the image has 10 toes.
23:19 Those 10 toes are going to correspond
23:21 with the 10 horns. Now, in Daniel 2 we see
23:25 rising up, among the toes of iron, we see this element
23:29 of clay. Okay? Are we going to find
23:33 the corresponding part in Daniel 7?
23:36 Yes we are, because if you look at Daniel 7
23:39 right after those ten horns are described,
23:42 the Bible says there was another little horn that rose up
23:47 among the ten. This little horn is going to correspond
23:51 to that clay kingdom of Daniel 2
23:54 and now it's going to give us more detail.
23:56 This little horn will think to change God's time and laws,
23:59 it will persecute the saints. Now, we're going: "Oh!
24:02 I understand now why the clay kingdom was so offensive to God
24:06 because in Daniel 7 it professed to be doing God's will.
24:10 Exactly. It professed to be doing God's will,
24:12 but it was doing simple things.
24:13 Daniel 7 gives us more detail and now we see it makes sense.
24:18 If we go on to Daniel 8 we will find that
24:21 the Bible prophecy zoomes in and we don't have time
24:25 to go through the rest of the prophecies,
24:28 but you'll find that Daniel 8 simply zoomes in
24:31 on what Daniel 7 had already explained.
24:34 Daniel 9 it does the very same thing. Daniel 11 it zoomes in
24:39 even further. It's kind of like...
24:40 -...well, like a digital camera. You're zooming in
24:45 closer and closer until you get very close,
24:48 with a lot of details.
24:49 - Exactly. Now, the image in Daniel 2 represents power,
24:53 so, different nations. Let's say that in Daniel 2
24:55 we had four particular nations. What do we know about that?
24:59 We know that, when we get to Daniel 7
25:01 we're not going to find four other nations.
25:03 It's the same nations, but it's now going into
25:06 more detail. The same thing with Daniel 8.
25:09 We're not going to find something new.
25:10 We're simply going to find more detail.
25:12 China is not going to pop up in the picture somewhere
25:15 or Russia or something like that.
25:16 God is trying to keep us focused as we study the Bible
25:20 and as we see these principles unfold, again it let's us know
25:25 this is the God that wrote the Bible.
25:27 He's a God of order. He's a God of law.
25:29 And there are laws that actually apply to studying the Bible.
25:34 - And this is why God, I believe, wrote the Bible
25:37 or allowed it to be written in this way
25:39 so that we would have to spend time with it
25:41 and study it line upon line,
25:43 precept upon precept.
25:44 You can't just skim over it
25:46 and get this kind of things out of it, if you really
25:49 study it.
25:50 - That's right. If you look at the scientists,
25:51 scientists put a lot of time into what they do,
25:54 and they pay attention to details.
25:57 As students of the Word of God, as students of the Bible,
26:01 we ought to take that time, we ought to take our work
26:04 as serious as scientists take their work.
26:07 And see this book as a divine inspired book as it is,
26:11 and as we begin to go through it under the guidance
26:14 of the Holy Spirit, God will begin to reveal to us
26:17 these principles, amazing principles,
26:20 principles that stand true; no matter where you put it
26:23 in the Word of God you'll see this principle unfolding
26:25 and I believe that this is one of the things that really
26:28 helps to solidify a person's Bible study when they realize
26:32 how beautifully written the Word of God is
26:35 and the principles upon which it is written.
26:38 - And again, there is nothing more powerful than young people
26:41 to get excited and study this book and to get on fire,
26:44 and to know their Word, because nobody can share with the world
26:47 as powerfully as young people. So, God is calling you
26:52 to get into the Word and to study your Bible
26:54 and to share it with the world.
26:56 And, of course, you have an enemy that's fighting you
26:58 on all sides, at all times, but God is more powerful
27:01 and He has called you to this.
27:03 - That's right. There are deep things of the Scripture
27:06 and because the enemy of souls has so many things going on,
27:10 we don't have time to really dig into the Word.
27:13 And so many young people say: "I don't understand
27:15 what I believe, or why I believe it",
27:17 but it's right there before us if we would only take God,
27:20 take His Word and say: "Alright Lord, teach me
27:22 how to study the Bible."
27:24 You know, Atonte, when I was out in the hip-hop industry
27:26 my code name was Yoda, because I wanted to be seen
27:29 as wise. Walking around with dreadlocks
27:32 and with a cane and looking all crazy.
27:35 But the Lord showed me that I was really foolish out there
27:39 in the world and that true wisdom is found in
27:43 studying and understanding His Word.
27:45 Not wisdom that we posses of ourselves, but wisdom
27:48 that God wants to give all His people
27:50 and that is the best thing that we can receive from God.
27:53 - Well, we are out of time, but we just pray that
27:57 you will join us next time.
27:58 Until then, God bless!