Participants: Curtis & Paula Eakins
Series Code: AL
Program Code: AL00193A
00:01 The doctor wants to put me on cholesterol lowering
00:03 medication; I just don't really want to go there.
00:05 Is there any help for me, all the side effects
00:08 and the cost? Today's program is just for you
00:10 entitled Controlling Cholesterol,
00:13 we will be right back.
00:40 Hi, welcome to Abundant Living,
00:41 this is Curtis Eakins your co-host
00:43 and I would like to introduce
00:44 my beautiful bride of 16 glorious wonderful years.
00:50 Paula Eakins, I, I thought you're going to,
00:54 you're so busy getting those years
00:56 in you forgot my name.
00:58 No, I didn't forget your name;
00:59 I just want to hear your voice. Okay. Yeah,
01:01 I should know your name,
01:03 we've been married 16 years,
01:04 wonderful years, hasn't it been?
01:06 Absolutely, absolutely what?
01:07 Controlling cholesterol, oh okay, you shift gears,
01:10 absolutely controlling cholesterol, I guess
01:12 that will be what we talk about. Before we go into
01:14 this topic folks again, as I have mentioned before
01:16 if I didn't mentioned before in our last program.
01:18 This is part of clean heart series,
01:22 several programs dealing with not just
01:24 the heart being clean, but the arteries
01:26 and cholesterol, blood pressure, etc.
01:28 So, this is part of the clean heart series
01:30 we're doing and this program is entitled
01:33 of course Controlling Cholesterol.
01:35 I wanted to start off by
01:38 a lot ask the question you know,
01:39 taking about cholesterol and meats and everything.
01:41 That's true. What exactly is cholesterol and,
01:45 and why is it important?
01:46 Okay, well cholesterol is important you know,
01:48 the sometimes cholesterol has gotten a bad rap.
01:50 You know, cholesterol is bad, fat is bad.
01:54 Well, cholesterol is really good,
01:56 fat is really good we need certain types of fat too.
01:59 Cholesterol is a yellow waxy substance
02:02 found naturally in the bloodstream
02:04 and basically cholesterol is used for cell
02:08 membrane for organ development,
02:11 a sex hormones and body
02:13 energy process of vitamin D.
02:15 So, you see cholesterol is very vital
02:18 for the body function,
02:20 from day-to-day bases. So, we really need cholesterol
02:23 and it's important to the function of our daily lives.
02:27 So, the body is actually making it,
02:29 evidently from what you're saying because
02:30 that's a lot of things it is doing.
02:32 Yeah, well you know, you always have a text that says,
02:35 we're fearfully, wonderfully made,
02:37 okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so with that in mind
02:38 we will talk more about how what organ
02:41 of our body actually makes cholesterol.
02:44 Well, I didn't really say it,
02:45 David said it in Psalms.
02:47 Yeah, well you repeat what David said.
02:50 Absolutely, yeah absolutely okay, okay,
02:51 they understood that.
02:53 Okay, okay now, now time for cholesterol
02:54 screening going in to have to your
02:56 cholesterol checked. What should we do
02:58 before we have our cholesterol checked?
03:00 Okay, well number one,
03:02 when you have your cholesterol checked
03:03 the certain things that needs to be done
03:05 to make sure you have an accurate reading.
03:07 Number one no coffee or alcohol or tea
03:11 at least 48 hours before you have
03:13 your cholesterol checked, alright.
03:15 Okay, quite frankly
03:17 shouldn't be no alcohol period, you know,
03:18 whether you are having cholesterol checked or not.
03:21 You know, no alcohol, Uhum!
03:22 Or tea that's caffeinated tea. So,
03:25 but particularly for those who maybe doing that
03:28 because you want to curtail that at least
03:30 two days before your cholesterol.
03:32 Otherwise you'll have a false positive.
03:35 Also there are certain things that will increase
03:38 ones cholesterol, pregnancy,
03:40 birth control pills, beta-blockers was a
03:44 type of a blood pressure medication,
03:46 taking vitamin D, steroids, all of these
03:50 things will raise ones cholesterol. So,
03:53 medication you want to lay off your medications
03:55 for at least two days as well because that will
03:58 also give your cholesterol a positive high number.
04:01 And keep in mind that
04:03 your cholesterol is basically,
04:06 you have your cholesterol screening check;
04:08 it's based on the last seven days of eating. So,
04:12 if you know, you don't have your cholesterol checked
04:14 and so you wanna have a good number
04:17 then eat a healthy plant based diet
04:21 for the next seven days,
04:25 God's original diet, and then get your cholesterol
04:28 done and you will be amazed
04:29 and that's really proof in the pudding
04:31 where God's original diet,
04:33 which is a cholesterol free diet
04:35 and also impacts the overall cholesterol as well.
04:38 Now, go ahead.
04:39 Now, now I'll gonna say, okay and you said,
04:41 last seven days before you know
04:44 and get your cholesterol done
04:45 and just to go ahead and eat a plant based diet
04:47 and then of course after this over I guess
04:49 you back to the normalcy. No, no, no, no, no.
04:52 It doesn't mean that No, I could
04:54 see it, not just an email coming from that way too.
04:55 I can see it too, I can see it too
04:56 because that's gonna be the true amount,
04:58 what's going on is that we know that,
04:59 it shows you within seven days,
05:02 time frame, if you are doing the plant based diet,
05:05 you can see a difference in your overall cholesterol,
05:08 simply because of it. So,
05:09 why not continue to do here. Right,
05:10 and that's the proof in the pudding
05:12 just let people know that wow!
05:14 It can happen in just seven days,
05:15 so therefore, yeah, lifelong diet,
05:18 excuse me; dietary plan will help
05:20 keep the cholesterol at bay.
05:21 And what about those, ranges as far as
05:23 what's the range when we talk about cholesterol
05:27 as far as low or moving into medium or high,
05:30 what are those ranges.
05:31 Okay, let's first go to the graphic
05:33 there is a chart as far as cholesterol is concerned
05:36 and also the risk of coronary heart disease
05:38 with a scale. You see there on the screen now,
05:40 the blue represents the men
05:42 and orange are represents the women.
05:44 Now as you see there at the far right,
05:47 our cholesterol that's over 239 I believe,
05:50 of course the higher the cholesterol
05:53 the higher the coronary heart disease risk is
05:57 and so with that in mind you see men there over
06:00 239 and you have a risk of a coronary disease risk,
06:04 let's say what 55 percent I believe
06:06 and of course now the lower the cholesterol
06:09 your risk of getting any type of
06:11 coronary heart disease event is reduced as well,
06:15 but now the good thing about this is that
06:17 when you see the cholesterol
06:19 is less than 200 the blue for the men
06:21 is to over 30 percent of
06:23 coronary heart disease risk,
06:24 and women is about 15 percent.
06:27 So, again thank you for the graphic,
06:29 so the point of this is that the higher
06:31 the total cholesterol, the higher the coronary
06:34 heart disease risk is there
06:37 and so with that in mind we suggest
06:40 that the magic number for total cholesterol is 150.
06:44 This is based on the Framingham study
06:46 several years ago. No one has had any coronary already,
06:49 Oh! Coronary heart disease event
06:52 with their total cholesterol
06:53 are below 150. And so with that in mind
06:56 we're looking at the 150 or below
06:59 now of course you have your cholesterol checked
07:00 sometime ago and yours was below 150.
07:03 Below yeah, below 150, I try to make sure of it
07:07 I don't get myself I worked up especially
07:09 stressed out or anything like that, so,
07:10 that's right, along with the,
07:12 the eating habits, exercise
07:14 I was really glad to see it was below 150.
07:17 Yeah, and myself was to above, below 150
07:19 and that's what we want folks the total
07:21 cholesterol and now with that in mind
07:22 that's not the only number that we concerned about.
07:25 There are some components to make up
07:27 the total cholesterol, let's talk about
07:28 that the LDL, HDL and let's talk about those.
07:30 You know, lot of time when people
07:32 go to the health fair,
07:33 they do an overall score
07:34 and I always say to them you know that overall
07:36 score is not really a good score because basically
07:39 as you said before when you've gone
07:40 to a health fair, you are kind of running around,
07:42 your eating things, and of course you're gonna
07:44 take on take your blood
07:45 and then you're going to tell you comeback.
07:47 Okay. A lot of times the score is gonna be higher
07:49 than what it really should be,
07:50 so it's always good to know what those numbers are,
07:53 I always say, you want the whole
07:54 total blood panel done,
07:56 when you go to your doctor,
07:57 you want to have the whole panel,
07:58 the panel is that you get your HDL,
08:01 which are to guys, you get your LDL
08:03 elevated high density lipoprotein is HDL
08:07 that's the good one that's what you want
08:08 to have a high number,
08:10 the LDL low density lipoproteins
08:12 that's gonna be we want that number below hundred,
08:14 you're going to have your VLDL well that's gonna be
08:17 even lower still as far as too much cholesterol,
08:20 too much oil in the system
08:21 and then you're gonna have your triglycerides.
08:23 Now, triglycerides basically all your foods
08:26 have some type of high triglycerides base,
08:28 it's just chemically meaning that
08:30 there is some type of an oil chemically
08:33 that that's in each one of the fruits
08:35 and vegetables, grains, and whatever.
08:37 And so, but you want to look at
08:39 you want to get that HDL level up
08:40 and it is not just the foods you eat,
08:42 there is another way of getting it down,
08:43 which is also a part of our exercise as well.
08:46 Okay, component to it, so
08:48 you want to get those scores,
08:49 now you wanted to know with that overall scores,
08:51 it's not just the one score.
08:53 Good point too and I think in our work book we have
08:55 some numbers HDL the healthy above 60,
08:59 yes, yes, yes, yes, yes and LDL,
09:01 L allows the below hundred,
09:03 so those scores are there and,
09:05 and also the cholesterol ratio,
09:07 which is the cholesterol divided by the HDL,
09:10 right, right, right. For instance
09:12 if your total cholesterol let's say 200,
09:14 the HDL is 50 then your cholesterol ratio is 4,
09:19 you want your cholesterol ratio below 3.5.
09:22 And lot of times though on some blood lipid
09:24 or profiles that have the cholesterol ratio as well.
09:27 Well, let's just talk about some cholesterol sources.
09:30 Okay, they're basically two sources of cholesterol,
09:33 let's go to the screen, look at these
09:35 two sources of cholesterol.
09:36 First you have the liver again
09:37 with fearfully wonderfully made,
09:39 so God designed the liver, the organ
09:43 to produce all the cholesterol
09:45 that the body needs, about 1000 milligrams per day,
09:49 therefore we don't really necessary have to eat.
09:51 Cholesterol in our food because
09:53 the liver does everything we,
09:55 we need as far as cholesterol is concerned,
09:58 okay, but again with the egg there
10:00 is what about 240 milligrams of
10:02 cholesterol in egg, yes, a minimum egg.
10:05 And cheese burger, and hotdogs,
10:08 baloney, and chicken and pork all these
10:11 add more cholesterol to the body.
10:14 Yeah. Now, the point of is that your cholesterol
10:17 the liver is only responsible for about
10:20 a 80 percent of cholesterol,
10:21 the food is about 20 percent.
10:23 Now, the more cholesterol we eat,
10:26 the less the liver makes.
10:29 It kind of balances itself, alright,
10:31 so or again to lower cholesterol one thing
10:34 is no to eat cholesterol, but that's not the only thing
10:37 to, because some people do have
10:38 Coronary Artery Disease or heart disease risk
10:41 and they have a low cholesterol.
10:43 So, but in a way the point is the,
10:45 that the higher cholesterol,
10:46 the higher the Coronary Artery Disease risk.
10:49 Well, I know but lot of times when
10:52 people talk about cholesterol
10:53 and they got a high cholesterol,
10:56 they have been begin to say with your doctors
10:58 wanna put them on Statin drugs.
10:59 Okay. So, talk to us about
11:01 Statin drugs what are they?
11:03 Okay, Statin drugs now there can be a whole
11:05 program just on Statin drugs
11:07 about 13 million people are taking Statin drugs
11:10 all the time and so some other things
11:12 about Statin drugs is that,
11:14 these are drugs that will lower cholesterol
11:16 too many things. Number one,
11:19 Statin drugs will make the muscles
11:22 break down the tissue,
11:25 muscle tissue break down
11:26 and with that in mind it stresses out the kidneys.
11:29 And this has been several reports of
11:31 that reports to the food
11:34 and drug administration as far as 60 deaths
11:37 by one Statin drug that was removed from the shelf
11:41 from the market and in a ten years span some 3,300
11:45 reported diseases due to muscle
11:48 tissue breaking down of Statin drugs.
11:50 That's one thing and another thing is that
11:54 Statin drugs were also impair one's memory
11:58 and so with that in mind you have short term memory
12:01 and you don't remember as much as you used to
12:04 and so Statin drugs were also adopted as well.
12:07 It also depletes coenzyme Q10
12:10 that is used and necessary for the heart
12:13 function to beat properly.
12:14 So, even though Statin drugs do lower cholesterol,
12:17 this a healthy price that people pay
12:20 and taking Statin drugs.
12:22 Now, I'm seen those commercials
12:24 and I have see them bring more
12:25 and the next thing end of the day, take it over TV
12:28 as fast as they put them on,
12:29 but when we start talking about the side effects
12:31 that get very, very scary.
12:32 Yeah. There is another word out there and that
12:34 words about the portfolio diet.
12:36 What is the portfolio diet?
12:38 Okay and we have heard that
12:39 before the portfolio diet,
12:40 this is huge research in
12:43 University of Toronto in Canada,
12:44 Dr. Jenkins and his group researchers
12:46 they looked at all the Statin drugs out there
12:49 and realize that Statin drugs
12:50 it can lower cholesterol, but
12:52 it baleful side effects that comes with that.
12:56 So, they decide to look at certain foods
12:59 that were simply lower cholesterol
13:01 without the side effects and what they had
13:03 discovered that there are
13:04 four basic food components.
13:07 Let's go to the screen,
13:08 let's see what these four components are,
13:09 her it is. We call this the portfolio diet
13:12 and it says here. "Four dietary components,
13:17 has proved to be as effective
13:20 as Statin medication,
13:23 there are viscous fiber, the soluble fiber,
13:27 vegetable protein, soy in particular,
13:31 plant sterols and nuts."
13:35 Those four right there and,
13:38 and I but we tell you how each one of
13:40 those with lower cholesterol,
13:42 alright and so this was fiber will bind bow salt
13:47 that were normally convert into cholesterols
13:49 and that's how this was fiber
13:50 can lower cholesterol.
13:52 And the, the vegetable protein soya in particular,
13:55 it will inhibit liver from reducing cholesterol,
14:00 and reduces rate of production.
14:02 The plant sterols were inhibit absorption
14:05 or cholesterol in the intestines.
14:08 So, each one of those groups
14:09 lowers cholesterol in a different way,
14:12 you put them together in a meal plan
14:15 and that's why they called it the
14:17 the portfolio diet, it's like
14:19 stocks in a portfolio. So, portfolio diet
14:23 all in one meal and they have been shown to
14:25 lower cholesterol just as effectively as
14:30 Statin drugs within about
14:32 two to three weeks, alright.
14:35 So, portfolio diet it's a wonderful diet out there
14:38 and it's really again if you look at honey
14:40 is based on man's original diet.
14:42 Because there is no animal products at all,
14:44 yeah, and the nut foods one other main nuts used in
14:47 that diet too is the almond,
14:49 almonds help to dilate the coronary arteries
14:53 and also the walnuts help to relax the vessels.
14:57 So, thereby it does not only
14:59 lowers cholesterol that not keen down
15:01 it also lowers blood pressure,
15:04 so it's wonderful. Well, you know,
15:05 once again God knew what he was doing, yes,
15:07 in the very first book of the Bible Genesis
15:09 and God spoke about the diet for mankind
15:12 and when you think about that,
15:13 think about the foods that are good for us
15:16 to take into our bodies. There is a recipe that
15:19 I'm going to be doing today. Okay.
15:20 And this recipe believe or not
15:22 a lot of things you mentioned the, the meats
15:24 and everything that is there,
15:26 no they are not gonna be in this recipe however,
15:28 it is a recipe that called easy lasagna that
15:31 a lot of people like because of all the cheese
15:33 and the meat and all that's in there.
15:35 We're going into the kitchen
15:36 and we're going to do easy lasagna
15:38 and no where we're not using any meat, no milk,
15:40 no egg, no cheese you have to get your pencil
15:43 and meet us in the kitchen.