Participants: Curtis & Paula Eakins
Series Code: AL
Program Code: AL00186A
00:01 It has been estimated that over 215,000 women
00:06 will come down with breast cancer, that's
00:08 American women and that's over a 40,000
00:11 deaths each year. Today's program is entitled
00:16 'Beating Breast Cancer'. We are gonna talk about
00:19 foods, risk factors. We are gonna talk about
00:22 those things that we need to do as
00:24 women to take care of ourselves. Stay by.
00:56 Hi, welcome to Abundant Living.
00:57 This is Curtis Eakins, your co-host and I like to
01:00 introduce my beautiful bride, Paula Eakins.
01:04 How are you doing today, honey?
01:05 I am wonderful, also co-host. Co-host, yes, okay.
01:08 Looking we might good today. Thank you very much.
01:11 You are welcome very much. I don't mind giving
01:13 compliments to you and you can give
01:14 something to me as well. You can do at this time if you like.
01:18 Okay. Okay, anyway.
01:21 We are gonna continue with this program.
01:23 We are talking about beating breast cancer.
01:25 This is a part of our women's health series.
01:28 So, I want you to stay back and we are gonna
01:30 be talking about some women's issues and so
01:33 it's coming on within next few weeks or so.
01:35 Yeah, yeah. Now you made comment
01:38 in the tease about women, 215,000 women that are
01:42 diagnosed with breast cancer and one of our camera
01:45 crew said this morning, of course, by the way
01:48 real men wear pink. Absolutely. Absolutely.
01:53 Absolutely. So, surely, because you
01:55 just wondering, yes. Pink ties. Pink tie and,
01:58 But, in fact I love to see men in when they wear
02:00 the black suit with a pink shirt and a pink tie.
02:04 Okay, now, now the pink shirt and a pink tie
02:06 little bit too much. Maybe a white shirt with
02:08 a pink tie, a kind of. I'm just talking about
02:11 what women like that's all. Oh, okay. Well then that
02:14 may be a hint to me. So, anyway, we are talking
02:16 about women beating breast cancer, but also if
02:19 we listen to the camera crew, men also have
02:22 breast cancer as well. Absolutely.
02:24 2000 men per year in United States get breast cancer.
02:28 So, again we are not just talking about women,
02:30 although 2000 as compared to 215,000 there is a
02:35 great disparity, but again men are included
02:39 as far as breast cancer is concerned.
02:41 Absolutely. Absolutely, you know, it has been
02:42 estimated that's 1 in 8 women, yes, within that woman's
02:47 lifetime could actually become a candidate
02:49 for the breast cancer. And I think, you know,
02:51 and really those stats are becoming less and less
02:55 favorable because back in 1970s it was 1 in 11,
03:00 in 1980s it was 1 in 10, and in 1990s 1 in 9,
03:07 year 20001 in 8 and we are at the brink of 1 in 7.
03:13 So, the numbers are not getting better maybe
03:17 three and half minutes. One of the things very
03:18 good and that is that has been estimated that
03:21 90 per cent of the breast cancers that they are caught
03:24 and/or they have a lifespan, where a woman might get
03:26 breast cancer and let's say within five year of survival
03:29 rate there is 90 percent of an opportunity that she
03:33 will not have it again, she can get through that
03:36 and so that's also very important, so we are
03:38 gonna be talking about early detection how important
03:39 it is, but what exactly then is breast cancer.
03:42 Well, well, breast cancer is not.
03:44 Now, let me just make the statement "breast cancer
03:48 does not contain within the breast".
03:50 That's right. That's right. Or what we call
03:52 the breast mound. Breast cancer can be
03:55 all way up to the clavicle, to the mid of the chest,
04:00 under the under arm and below the breast.
04:03 So, that is included in the whole breast tissue.
04:07 So, with that in mind, but again breast cancer
04:09 can be or is abnormal cells that grow out of
04:15 control and produce other abnormal cells.
04:19 And now those cells could be in a lobular or
04:22 could be in the duct, Right, right.
04:24 the milk duct, and called that Ductal Carcinoma
04:27 by 80 percent of that. There is some other
04:30 breast cancer that may not even have a lump at all.
04:33 Inflammatory breast cancer, where there is usually
04:36 no lump or just redness, all these things constitute
04:40 breast cancer and can be very debilitating as well,
04:44 but early detection is the key, one of the keys in
04:47 controlling this and lowering that mortality rate.
04:50 Well, let's look at some of the.
04:52 Now, I have actually some question about
04:53 some steps now about, you are missing some
04:56 steps already, but lets expand on that a little bit.
04:58 Well, there is quite a few risk factors
05:01 that can be involved. One of those risk factors
05:03 of course can be age. As we maturing age as women
05:08 of course the opportunity for something like
05:10 breast cancer is there, a personal history,
05:14 if a woman has breast cancer and/or man gets breast cancer.
05:19 There is a possibility that it could also reoccur,
05:22 okay, because you have already had it onetime
05:24 and that has to do of course with minute size,
05:27 small size that, that cancer cell could
05:30 very well move from the breast area even after
05:33 everything is going on and you can move to either major
05:36 four areas, the bone, the brain,
05:38 the liver and the lung. If it moves there
05:41 of course it metastasizes, and so that's what I mean
05:43 when I say that personal history, where you have
05:45 to keep be and checked up on make sure you are okay.
05:47 And of course family history, it could be your grandmother,
05:50 it's good to know your history of your family members,
05:53 your grandmother, great grandmother,
05:55 your mom, your sister, a daughter, any of those
05:59 individuals if they have had cancer even at a younger
06:02 age then the opportunity is there once again.
06:05 And then of course exposure to estrogen whether it would
06:08 be when you are very, very young.
06:10 Extra amounts of estrogen somehow the exposure and
06:13 also of course through menopause, when a
06:15 women going through menopause at that time as well.
06:19 The exposure to extra amounts of estrogen
06:22 might be coming from hormonal replacement therapy
06:24 something like that also puts her at risk for
06:27 breast cancer as well. Okay, now you missing
06:30 about that hormone replacement therapy,
06:32 HRT and of course now you have a whole presentation
06:36 on this breast cancer as well. Yes, yes.
06:39 But with HRT, there was a large study done.
06:43 I think it was back in early 2002 where there are lot of
06:47 women taken HRT, but realized that it was more
06:50 detrimental because they have more cancers, more
06:53 strokes and heart attacks. They had to stop that
06:56 study of the HRT, which is estrogen and progesterone
07:00 right after that breast cancer diagnosis dropped
07:04 immediately 50 percent the following year.
07:09 So, there is a close connection between HRT
07:12 and breast cancer. So we are going to
07:13 talking about menopause later on our future
07:17 programs as well so we get more into that.
07:19 That really brought us lot of scare, yes it is, more
07:21 heavy amount of scare when that testing was done it
07:24 was a five year test they had to stop it abruptly.
07:26 Yes. And lot of women who
07:28 are already on a patch or they were already doing
07:30 different medications and they were trying to figure
07:32 out what to do and believe it or not because of that,
07:35 because of the scare and because of the huge
07:38 amount of women, American women they
07:39 were using those different modalities then lot of
07:43 things have changed since then and lot of them have
07:45 looked more and more natural, we are gonna talk about
07:47 that as well. But I mentioned mother, grandmother and
07:50 I mentioned sister and daughter there is always
07:52 a genetic pre-disposure. Talk to us little bit about
07:56 genetics, yes, that relates to breast cancer.
07:59 Genetics does play a part in breast cancer
08:01 not as much as most people would think, alright.
08:05 They used to say that there are two genes in particular
08:08 that most people have heard of called it breast cancer
08:11 gene 1, breast cancer gene 2, for short BRCA1, BRCA2.
08:19 These are the two genes that are discovered as far as
08:23 genetic is concerned when it deals with breast cancer.
08:26 And with those two genes about 5 to 10 percent of the
08:31 people have some type of mutation in either one of
08:34 those two genes 5 to 10 percent ifs you seen the
08:38 literature. Now most people fall into the 5 percentile,
08:43 the 10 percent of those of the Jewish community,
08:47 Ashkenazi Jewish community, the others falls into the
08:51 5 percentile, so in essence 95 percent of the people
08:56 diagnosed with breast cancer is not due to the
08:59 breast cancer G1 or 2, 95 percent.
09:02 But then you maybe fall into that 5 percentile.
09:06 So, therefore, and just like the Bible says
09:09 visiting the iniquity upon on the children of the
09:11 third and fourth generations. Thereby, what my wife
09:16 was talking about look into your family history
09:18 down through at least three generations and
09:22 of course go to a genetic counselor and they will
09:24 also give some history as far as that is concerned to,
09:27 so again need to be mindful and know your family history
09:31 where you maybe have that mutation either in
09:34 one of those two genes. Now, I want to ask you a
09:37 question about the screening mammograms and the ages
09:41 and so let's talk about that for a moment.
09:43 You know, we say never to early to start really
09:46 checking and making sure is a mater of fact one of
09:48 things that we talk about as we relate to breast cancer
09:51 is that as early as the 20s. You know when a young
09:55 lady gets into her 20s, is the time then to start doing
09:58 we call it self breast exams and that's why, that's
10:01 because the more we do the self breast exams the
10:04 more we can notice any additional lumps or any
10:07 masses or anything that might show up way before it's time.
10:11 So, the self breast exam we say in the 20s or early 20s
10:14 and then of course if you have family members that
10:16 have been diagnosed with breast cancer, as I said
10:18 before that's even more caution.
10:20 One of ways to the next group is of course that
10:23 age of 20 to 39 years old. And once you get in that
10:26 age category, you can also have the clinical exams done.
10:29 Now, clinical exams means that when you go to
10:32 your doctor, a health care professional who will
10:34 actually do that for you the clinical exams.
10:36 You got the breast and self breast exam, you
10:38 have the clinical exam and then of course in the
10:41 40s and up then we have the mammograms and
10:43 mammography is done. Okay.
10:45 And that's every year, that's very important as well.
10:48 Although, believe it or not even with the mammograms
10:51 a lot of women do find their cancers on their own.
10:54 They actually discovered that because they have
10:56 been once again check in the breast and seeing
10:58 what's going on. It is so critical because
11:00 once again a lot of the cancers can be prevented
11:04 as we do this early detection as we are really
11:07 trying to push early detection.
11:09 Okay, I want a dovetail on that too because again
11:13 lot of people in United States do not have insurance
11:15 or may not have adequate insurance.
11:17 True. And so the mammograms
11:19 are very important, but once you to get a paper
11:23 or pen and write this down because there is a national
11:26 mammography day. Right, that's right.
11:28 The third Friday in October and it's sponsored by the
11:32 National Cancer Institute and this 1800 number to
11:36 contact any facility in your area to have either free
11:41 mammogram or a reduced rate of receiving
11:45 your mammogram. It's 1800-4, that's the
11:49 number four in the word cancer, again 1800-4
11:54 cancer, free or reduced rate for mammogram, so I just
11:58 want to make sure of people be aware of that.
12:00 Lot's of money put aside by the breast cancer
12:03 groups out there to make sure that women are
12:05 taking care of more and more each year because
12:08 of the numbers, the estimated numbers of
12:10 women being diagnosed with breast cancer.
12:12 So, you want to make sure you check that date out,
12:14 I meet a lot of women and they tell me they don't
12:16 have the funds or the money to go and see the
12:18 doctors, but like Curtis said, there are lots of free
12:21 programs out there or sliding scale programs
12:23 out there, but by all means the devastation of having
12:27 something like breast cancer certainly is something
12:30 you don't want and to have that available to us is
12:32 absolutely fantastic. Yes, that's true.
12:34 Now speaking on the same subject when you
12:35 talk about mammograms, one of things that, I hear
12:38 other sisters say to me is that they are concerned
12:41 about the exposure of radiation.
12:42 Okay. That they don't want to do
12:44 mammograms at all as they moving their ages
12:46 because they heard that the exposure can cause cancer.
12:49 So, let's address that along with versus we
12:53 have got the digital exam and versus the film exam,
12:56 can you talk about that. Yeah, radiation, of course
12:58 lot of women well, there is radiation.
13:00 Radiation is cancer causing agent in a cell,
13:05 but the amount of radiation that is emitted to the breast.
13:09 In the medical profession, we say that what is the
13:12 benefit to risk ratio in other words there are a lot of things
13:18 that may cause a risk, but the benefits
13:21 out weigh the risk. And in our estimation that
13:25 the little radiation that is emitted to the breasts,
13:29 the benefits simply we believe out way the risk.
13:33 So, again we advocate mammograms, but the
13:37 main thing about that, knowing that is film mammography,
13:44 there is no test that is perfect, let me just say that.
13:47 Film mammography does miss a lot of breast cancers,
13:50 but it tends to miss breast cancers where breasts are
13:53 either dense or young therefore you miss lot of the
13:58 15 percent. However, there is a new thing, not
14:01 fairly new now, but breasts that are young or more
14:05 dense is better to have a digital mammography.
14:11 Therefore and the age limit, the cut of age limit is 50
14:15 and below, so if you are 50 and below have dense breasts
14:18 there will be more advantages to have a digital mammography
14:24 as opposed to a film mammography.
14:27 Alright, so you want to keep that in mind and lot
14:29 of facilities are now having digital mammograms
14:33 available as well, so just wanted to be mind for that.
14:37 Let's move into the area Curtis that, really talks about
14:40 the foods that can protect us against breast cancer.
14:43 Okay, I am gonna share with the audience at this time
14:45 on the screen a power statement.
14:47 Let's look at it this time. Here it is folks.
14:50 "Nutrigenomics is the study of how the foods
14:54 we eat interact with our genes to influence our
15:00 health." This has come from the American Institute
15:02 of Cancer Research. Foods we eat, so you
15:05 know, Hippocrates said let food be the
15:07 medicine and therefore medicine our food.
15:10 So, there are some foods that can help us to protect us
15:12 from breast cancer, and list some of those foods
15:15 quickly, honey. We talk about that whole
15:16 cruciferous group, we talk about that before as
15:18 the cabbage family, okay, that's the cabbage
15:19 and collards and Brussels sprouts, and the onions
15:23 and the garlic and the leaves all of these are
15:26 part of that cruciferous group alright and so we
15:28 want to make sure that we have those type of
15:30 foods by now. We want to look at those foods
15:32 that are not really good for us, that does not help
15:35 to protect us against the cancer and
15:36 what foods are they. Okay, now there is another
15:38 power statement, I want to share with the audience
15:40 at this time as well and let's look at this statement.
15:43 It says this, Breast Worst Enemies.
15:47 Here it is folks. Medical Journal Nutrigenesis.
15:50 "Consumption of fried/processed meat and
15:55 beef were statistically significantly correlated
15:59 with DNA damage in breast tissue."
16:04 Now in previous program we talked about the meat,
16:06 flesh, and fried foods and how it can actually
16:10 damage the DNA and causes mutations in our genes
16:15 therefore in particular in the breasts, but now only
16:17 the breasts, but other areas as well and that can also
16:20 be breast worst enemy. So we want to avoid that
16:24 a more plant based diet, the diet that American
16:27 Cancer Institute, and American Cancer Society
16:30 I should say emphasize a plant based diet they will protect
16:34 us from breast cancer and some other things as well.
16:37 Well, there's lots and more information that we can
16:39 give you on this subject as this is like never ending.
16:42 You can also reach any American Cancer Society
16:45 they have got lots of information for us as
16:47 women and also you men out there as well and we
16:51 now where we just mentioned some foods
16:53 that were really good for us to have our protector,
16:55 so we are gonna go in the kitchen because we are
16:57 actually going to be doing an angel hair tomato toss
17:00 and we are gonna be using that garlic and those onions
17:02 as well in there so get your paper and pencil
17:05 and meet us in the kitchen.