Participants: Paula Eakins (Host), Curtis Eakins
Series Code: AL
Program Code: AL00171A
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00:01 These antidepressant drugs are making me
00:03 have blurred vision and constipation, 00:06 dry throat or foggy head, I'm a walking 00:10 zombie but hey guess what? It beats depression, 00:13 but today's program is entitled depression, 00:16 their drugs and alternatives, so stay by. 00:49 Hi, welcome to Abundant Living, this 00:51 is Curtis Eakins and this is my beautiful 00:53 bride Paula Eakins. How are you doing 00:55 today honey? Wonderful. 00:57 Your doing fine? Wonderful. 00:59 Look pretty good too. Thank you, you're 01:01 welcome. Wow, you sure named some 01:04 heavy stuff when this thing began this 01:06 program and we didn't cover all of the 01:08 symptoms and but I think someone 01:10 mentioned some else but we left that one out. 01:12 But there's a lot of symptoms dealing 01:14 with depression and their drugs so. 01:17 Again, a lot of people they have those things 01:20 and you know you have weigh out your 01:23 benefit to risk ratio. The benefits are 01:27 worth the risk then it may be adventitious, 01:29 if they risk out weighs the benefit then it may 01:32 not be adventitious to take that medication. 01:34 Well, you're saying about drugs and also 01:36 alternative, I guess my first question 01:38 Curtis to you would be what's actually 01:40 going on in a brain when a person is 01:43 suffering from depression. Okay, now again this 01:46 is a part of our running series our 01:48 mental wellness and last time we were on 01:52 3ABN we talked about depression and 01:55 also unveiling the culprit. Sure. 01:57 And so this time we're gonna go more into 01:59 the brain the drugs and also some 02:02 alternative to those drugs as well. 02:04 Now, in our presentations when we go in a community 02:07 sometimes we have a card and it has 02:11 three letters K I S S now some speakers 02:16 who speak quite often no one I am talking 02:18 about that a acronym, you remember acronym 02:21 honey, you wanna. No, you got it go on 02:24 one with this one. K I S S simply means 02:28 Keep It Simple Stupid. Now, so therefore this 02:32 can be very in depth as far as we're going 02:35 to the brain. So, we gonna keep it simple, 02:37 now, smarty because well we have done we 02:40 changed the last S to smarty because this is 02:42 more complementary. So, it little more 02:44 smarty so, that's what we're gonna do. 02:46 Well, we're going to the brain because 02:47 there is something going on in the brain 02:50 that triggers or not triggers but it's a 02:52 result of someone being depressed and 02:54 so with that in mind, we have what 02:56 we call Serotonin. Now, most people 02:59 heard of the term, its a neurotransmitter in a 03:02 brain serotonin and when a person is 03:06 experiencing depression serotonin levels are 03:10 low, okay, when a person is not 03:12 experiencing depression have a good mood 03:14 whatever then serotonin levels are 03:17 high that's about simple I can get that, 03:19 alright. So, with that in mind we call 03:22 serotonin a mood regulator alright, 03:26 and so with that mind that's the reason for 03:29 serotonin and, so therefore a lot of 03:30 drugs are catering to boosting 03:33 the serotonin levels. Now with that in 03:35 mind also of course you have a lot of 03:38 side effects as I just mentioned at the 03:40 opening as well, okay, okay, you have the 03:42 blurred vision, the constipation, 03:43 the nausea, the dry throat, a foggy feeling, 03:48 horrendous jitters, even suicidal thoughts. 03:52 Now, depression brings on suicidal 03:55 thoughts, some of the medication brings it 03:57 on too like a double whammy but again 04:00 that's what we're dealing with, 04:02 some of those medications out there as well. 04:05 Well, you're talking about the medications 04:06 stuff so, what about drug therapy, 04:08 talk a little bit to us about that. 04:10 Okay like I mentioned before a drug therapy 04:13 is not as efficacious as we will like it to be in 04:16 a medical profession. Antidepressant drugs 04:19 has tripled in the last 10 years, last year 04:24 some two hundred millions prescriptions 04:26 were filled for anti- depressant drugs alright. 04:30 So, it's growing at a increasing rate, 04:34 now with that in mind its only half effective 04:37 for those who are depressed. 04:38 So, anti-depressants only works for about 04:40 half of the people who are depressed out there. 04:43 So, the other half not really 04:45 receiving any real benefit. 04:47 Now when it comes to serotonin because a 04:50 lot of these drugs really focuses on 04:54 serotonin, right, to increase the serotonin 04:57 in the brain itself. So, with that in mind 05:00 we have what we call the S S R I, Selective 05:07 Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors, S S R I, 05:13 these drugs target the serotonin. 05:17 Therefore enhance the serotonin levels, 05:20 therefore a person can have more of a better 05:22 mood with those. Now, with those 05:25 drugs, okay, those are only 20 to 30 percent 05:28 effective. Okay. So, close to 70 percent of 05:31 people who taken SSRI are not even 05:34 really benefited from those type of drugs. 05:37 Therefore a lot of people say hey I have 05:39 these drugs out there in a medical 05:40 profession anti- depressants SSRI, 05:44 they're not as effective I still need some help. 05:49 And with that in mind that's why a lot of 05:51 people are moving more to the alternative row 05:54 as far as drugs are concerned. 05:56 So and like I said before last week when 05:58 we were here women are experienced more 06:00 depression then man, two to four times 06:02 more then that. And a lot of times some 06:06 of them pregnancy, due to pregnancy 06:09 those who are depressed may take 06:10 that medication, it can also harm 06:12 the fetal as well. So, therefore we need 06:15 some alternatives to depression drugs, 06:20 when we speak about alternatives 06:22 I know we're often talk about alternatives 06:23 now as a non-drug therapy, alright. 06:26 So, this non-drug therapy or a way in 06:29 which lifestyle or and or eating can possibly 06:33 take the place of the drug or okay. 06:36 So, if that, in that respect you know my 06:38 first question is gonna to be you that is, 06:40 are there foods that are high in serotonin level. 06:43 Okay, now that's a very good question 06:45 because serotonin levels are low which 06:47 is the trade mark of those who are 06:49 depressed it seems to reason if I eat foods 06:54 high in serotonin that serotonin levels 06:57 become higher, okay, well, that's not as 07:00 easily said, okay, because number one 07:03 foods high in serotonin, there are 07:05 many foods that are high in serotonin. 07:07 I'm not even going to mention them, 07:08 the reason why is this, when you eat those 07:10 foods high in serotonin but because 07:12 serotonin does not cross the blood brain 07:14 barrier then it does not affect serotonin levels. 07:18 So, we eat those foods but it does not impact 07:20 our serotonin levels, okay. And that's why 07:22 a lot of times we're dealing with the food, 07:24 we're dealing with the chemistry, 07:26 the neurotransmitter in a brain. 07:27 So, therefore you cannot talk up 07:32 serotonin there must be something that one 07:35 can take to boost the serotonin level that's 07:37 why with depression talk therapy has 07:42 moved into drug therapy. Because you cannot 07:46 talk serotonin into someone's brain. 07:50 So, therefore there is shift as far as 07:52 treatment is concerned. So, with that in mind 07:55 now there are some foods that has Tryptophan, 08:00 now some people may have heard of that term. 08:03 Tryptophan is a essential amino acid, 08:05 that is a precursor of serotonin. 08:09 So, when we eat foods high in Tryptophan 08:12 therefore increases our serotonin the mood 08:15 regulator therefore serotonin 08:17 levels are increased. Now, with that in 08:20 mind the foods high in Tryptophan. 08:23 Let's go to our first graphic and see what 08:25 those foods are? I call these foods 08:27 the mood foods. Now, the highest food 08:30 that has the highest kind of Tryptophan is 08:32 of course the soybeans, okay, and of course 08:34 soybean as you also get tofu as well then 08:38 you have spinach, fresh spinach, 08:41 the Broccoli, steamed broccoli, 08:44 mustard greens, sesame seeds. 08:46 All of this are foods they're high in 08:49 Tryptophan which is a precursor to serotonin. 08:56 So, those are the key foods that are in high 08:57 in Tryptophan and again I have to 08:59 emphasize that the soybean is number 09:03 one as far as Tryptophan is 09:04 concerned so we take in those foods then 09:06 serotonin was just the mood regulator help 09:10 for those who may be depressed. 09:13 What about natural supplements. 09:15 Okay, now, there's are lot of natural 09:16 supplements out there in the market as well 09:18 that people can take and some of these 09:20 natural supplements I am just gonna 09:22 mention two of there is many we can mention 09:24 alternative to drugs and what drugs can do 09:27 and short coming drugs for depression 09:30 but two are produced by the body by the 09:33 way, one is called 5- Hydroxytryptophan, 09:37 5HTP. Let's go to our first graphic, well our 09:40 second graphic and lets see what this 09:42 particular supplement can do. We call this a nature's 09:47 antidepressant of the 17 reviewed clinical 09:51 studies 13 confirmed that 5-HTP has true 09:57 antidepressant properties. 5- HTP this stands for 10:04 5- Hydroxytryptophan. Alright and again, 10:07 this is another precursor to serotonin 10:13 alright, and so therefore with that in 10:14 mind our people can do that and the doses 10:18 based on clinical studies can range 10:20 anywhere from 100 to 300 mg/day and 10:26 suggest to take that in the evening, no more 10:29 than two months at a time. And a lot of people 10:32 who have taken this found to be, 10:35 have their depression symptoms either 10:39 reduced or eliminated. Alright, find in any 10:42 health food store as far as 5-HTP. 10:45 Now, there is another one that's very 10:48 profound, has a lot of clinical studies back 10:51 in this as well. Let's go to our last 10:53 graphic and let's see what this it may can 10:55 do as well. A proven track record, in over 11:00 40 clinical studies, SAM-e has demonstrated 11:06 the ability to enhance both serotonin and 11:11 dopamine levels eliminating or 11:14 decreasing symptoms of depression. 11:19 SAM-e sometimes is known, this is, 11:21 again this is produced in our body, but again 11:24 we can get this at any health food store as 11:26 well and this SAM-e, the doses with this is 11:31 about 40, 400mgs twice a day this has 11:35 been used for over 40 years. It's been very 11:39 efficacious for those who not receiving the 11:43 benefit they're hoping for and depression 11:46 drugs but also this is another way of using 11:50 some alternatives as far as that is 11:51 concerned. So, there's many other things out 11:53 there I didn't even mentioned St. Johns 11:55 Wort we know about that in Germany by 11:58 the way I just mentioned this point 11:59 right here, that in Germany you know Prozac, 12:04 Zoloft and Paxil, those are SSRI's 12:08 Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors. 12:11 In Germany, only two percent of the people 12:16 in the Germany use Prozac over 60 12:20 percent use St. John's Wort in 12:22 antidepressants. So, again they are 12:25 using a lot more natural remedies over 12:27 there then we use here in United States but 12:30 so that's the some of the things we can do 12:32 magnesium 400 mg it helps the brain cell 12:36 connection that very efficacious a lot more 12:39 we can offer but just want to give them 12:41 something they can go on as some 12:43 alternative to drug therapy. 12:45 Now, going with word of God, 12:48 I think someone might be asking a 12:49 question that is that are you talking about 12:51 all three of these things at one time or 12:52 you talking about one or the other, 12:54 yeah very good question yeah, it just depends 12:58 some people have very good results 13:01 from just a 5-HTP by itself alright, 13:05 and some people use that with St. John's 13:09 Wort, okay, or Valerian, okay, and 13:11 you have to you know work and see what 13:13 works best for you. Other people just use 13:16 St. John's Wort by itself, because 13:17 remember you have different degrees of depression. 13:19 You have mild, you have moderate, 13:21 you have severe, alright. So you may have to 13:23 also work with your dosage as well, and 13:26 work with your health care professional, 13:28 absolutely, so they can be aware that 13:31 you're doing those things as well. 13:32 So, again in the SAM-e of course, that's 13:36 another way of doing that some people find 13:38 good results just by that alone and nothing else. 13:40 Our combination there, but again 13:42 SAM-e and 5-HTP are produced in our 13:46 body in a way. So therefore you don't 13:48 have those adverse reaction that you 13:50 would normally get from the drug 13:51 mediation. Now, going to the word of 13:53 God 'cause you see our time's slipping 13:54 away, God has something to say 13:55 about depression and we're gonna close up 13:57 with another Biblical example as well, 13:59 you know in Psalms 42 okay, there's some 14:02 statements being made, and it says, 14:04 the soul cast down. So the Bible talks 14:06 about that as well, and in Psalms 42 it says 14:09 my soul is cast down within me and why art 14:14 thou cast down, O my soul? Oh! Okay, now here 14:17 whole chapter is dealing with this 14:19 of course David's writing and he is 14:21 talking about the soul being cast down and 14:24 then I like the fact because in the word 14:25 of God, even when something is going 14:28 on, even when we hear a story we will 14:30 see that God's promises and God 14:32 speaks also to us and so here in the 14:34 New Testament Second Corinthians 14:37 7:6 it says from God, God is a God of 14:42 comfort and he comforts those who 14:45 are cast down. Okay, Amen. 14:47 Now speaking of God comforting those 14:49 who are cast down means, that means we 14:51 then need to go to the word of God 14:54 and you have a story about someone whose 14:56 soul was cast down. Yeah, I called this, 14:59 we're gonna close up on this one, I call this 15:01 the prime example, a Biblical depression. 15:07 The best example in the word of God is 15:10 housed in I Kings 18 and also verse 19 15:15 now we're talking about Elijah, let me 15:17 just kind of summarize the story, some you 15:19 know the story I Kings chapter 18 15:22 and Elijah was a prophet by God for 15:25 God to the Northern part of Israel, 15:28 of course Israel the Northern Part they 15:29 had apostatized and started worshiping 15:31 other idols and worshiping Baal. 15:34 So, Elijah was sent there to straighten 15:36 things out and Baal's prophets were about 15:39 450 plus another 400 in a grove so 15:44 looking at 950 to one but Elijah with God is 15:51 the majority. So, he had the majority 15:53 on his side and here's the deal he said okay 15:56 look guys, we need to straighten this thing 15:57 out, you need to worship God so let's 15:59 go ahead and put this to a climax, on Mount 16:03 Carmel lets build a altar. You select the bullock, 16:07 I'll select one you go first put the bullock 16:11 on the altar and if fire comes down from 16:14 Heaven burn up your bullock then we know 16:17 that your God is the true God and then I'll 16:21 go next if it does the same with me then we 16:24 know that my God is the true God. 16:27 So, they went first, had the bullock and 16:29 had the altar there, they started in the 16:31 morning, noon until the evening and the 16:35 fire never came down and then Elijah said 16:38 okay, I want everybody to come close, 16:40 now it's my turn and he prepared the 16:43 bullock on the alter and to make matters 16:47 worse he said, I want you to pour water and 16:50 saturate the altar with water, okay, do it the 16:53 second time, do it the third time so make no 16:57 mistake about it, it was drenched wet 17:00 with water then he called on God himself 17:03 and fire came down, burn up the bullock, 17:05 the alter and also the water around the altar 17:08 as well, and it was just amazing, but now 17:11 there's something that happened because of 17:13 that and I want to read something, again we 17:16 introduced this author before on our last 17:18 program and this book called Prophets and Kings. 17:22 Talking about a prime example of depression 17:26 and so that event took place this is what happened. 17:31 He feared that the reformation that 17:34 began on Mount Carmel might not be 17:38 lasting; and get this folks and depression 17:43 seized him. And he decided never again to 17:49 look upon the face of man. So, because of this 17:54 grand event, when he feels that, wait a 17:57 minute, this might not last. 18:00 And that fear, that anticipation of fear 18:04 that it might not last, depression seized 18:08 him, one other thing that this author points 18:11 out she says that because he was 18:15 exalted above measure, sure and 18:20 when that happened then the author says 18:25 Elijah left hold of God's unchanging hand. 18:29 And I'm gonna fast forward this story, 18:32 so when that happened and King 18:34 Ahab told his wife Jezebel what happened. 18:37 Jezebel says Ahab said Elijah's life by 18:43 this time tomorrow Elijah you're gonna 18:45 die, he heard that and Elijah took off 18:48 running, we're gonna pick up this story 18:50 quickly in I Kings chapter 19 in verse 4, 18:54 listen to this, But he himself went a day's 18:58 journey into the wilderness, and came 19:00 and sat down under a juniper tree; 19:02 and he requested for himself that he might 19:05 die and said, It is enough, now, O Lord, 19:10 take away my life, for I am no better than 19:14 my father. One of the simplistic 19:16 of depression is that you wish to die, 19:19 you have no desire to live. 19:23 Elijah wished that he would die another 19:27 hallmark of depression is low self esteem or 19:31 worthlessness, he said here that I am 19:35 no better than my fathers. And so therefore he 19:39 went and God took him and he went up 19:43 on a mountain, long story short God came 19:47 to Elijah on the mountain first in a 19:51 hurricane then in an earthquake and then a 19:55 fire and the Bible says in I Kings chapter 19:57 19 verse 11 and 12 then God came to 20:00 Elijah in a still small voice. At that point in 20:07 time this author says depression was 20:11 silenced in a still small voice. 20:15 So, those who are watching you may be 20:17 depressed, you may know someone who is 20:19 depressed, going through those 20:20 depressive symptoms in a still small voice, 20:25 listen to God's call. Listen to the small 20:28 voice of the Holy Spirit and again 20:30 there's a sure remedy for depression. 20:33 Faith, prayer, and work. Therefore we want to 20:38 give you those truths today to beat depression, 20:42 to reach through the darkness into the 20:45 glorious life. Now, that means that 20:48 there is more to this depression because 20:50 you've only just started touching the 20:52 surface, yes, touching the surface, drugs and 20:54 alternative and a story by Elijah, there is so 20:57 much that can be said about that but we got 20:59 to go into kitchen so we have to pick that 21:01 up well, I'm feeling about that whole story 21:03 because God is also once again we're 21:05 going into the kitchen and we are gonna be 21:07 doing an apple salad ambrosia. 21:10 Get your paper and your pencil 21:11 and meet us in the kitchen. |
Revised 2014-12-17