Participants: Curtis & Paula Eakins
Series Code: AL
Program Code: AL00170A
00:01 I feel that I'm in a dark room
00:02 and I just can't get out.
00:04 I see there's a blanket of fog that's hovering
00:07 over me blocking the clear sky and I just
00:11 cannot reach through the gloom
00:12 piercing the sky. Well, today if that's
00:15 your feeling the program is entitled Depression:
00:19 Unveiling the Culprits, so stay by.
00:50 Hi, welcome to Abundant Living,
00:52 I'm Curtis Eakins and I would like to
00:53 introduce my wonderful bride of
00:56 well over 13 years, Paula Eakins.
00:58 How are you doing today, honey?
01:00 I am doing wonderful.
01:01 You're looking wonderful too.
01:03 Praise Him. Praise Him. Alright.
01:05 And you know you started this program
01:06 off and you started talking about you
01:08 know the dark cloud and all that so you know.
01:13 Well, you know, and again this, now this is
01:16 going to be the first part of a series of
01:18 programs of mental wellness and so we're
01:21 gonna have that next coming weeks dealing
01:23 with depression. Today its going to be
01:26 entitled Depression Unveiling the Culprits.
01:29 And we'll go more into some other
01:31 components of depression as well,
01:32 so but again those who are depressed
01:35 they sense that they are in a dark room,
01:38 they can't get out, there is a blanket of
01:41 fog that's hovering over them.
01:43 That's blocking the clear sky.
01:45 They want to reach through and pierce the
01:47 gloom but they just can't. And so for the next
01:51 coming weeks we wanna help those
01:52 individuals who maybe experience in
01:54 that how to snap out of depression and
01:57 other types of feeling of being blue as well.
02:00 Is there an actual relationship between
02:03 the mind and the body? Well, absolutely there
02:06 is Honey, and I want to introduce for the
02:10 first time in this segment here.
02:13 There is one author we mentioned this
02:14 author before Ellen G. White.
02:17 This author has been published more than
02:20 any other author in the United States.
02:22 According to the library of congress in
02:24 Washington DC, second in the world,
02:28 and this author has written many volumes
02:30 on health and mental wellness as well.
02:35 This author makes a powerful statement as
02:38 far as health and mental wellness is concerned.
02:41 Let's go to our first graphic and let's see
02:42 what this powerful statement is all about.
02:45 It says here, a sick mind equals a
02:48 diseased body, here it is "Sickness of the
02:51 mind prevails everywhere. Nine tenths of the
02:57 diseases from which we suffer hail their
03:00 foundation here." And again the book
03:02 is mind, character & personality volume 1
03:06 page 59. Now, that's a very profound
03:08 statement and at first glance people look
03:12 at that and read that statement
03:13 and wait a minute. Nine tenths of
03:17 diseases have their foundation right here.
03:21 Nine tenths, now math was not my
03:24 best subject. But do the nine tenths
03:27 is 90 percent, therefore it has a
03:30 great impact on our overall health based
03:33 on the health of our mind, nine tenths,
03:37 so therefore, that's why this series is
03:39 going to be very powerful and very
03:41 important for those out there who maybe
03:43 experiencing sickness in the mind, mental
03:46 health, depression etc. Well, I just finished
03:50 reading a book, as a matter of fact it's been
03:52 a little while back a real dear friend of
03:54 mine Dawn that's living in Texas.
03:56 Okay, that's true. She sent this book to
03:58 me, alright, and it was entitled "Telling
04:00 yourself the truth," okay, and I am telling
04:03 you Curtis, it is absolutely fantastic.
04:05 Okay, she did it with a Bible study group
04:07 and they were working through it
04:09 and she sent me a copy of it and
04:10 she send me workbook as well.
04:11 Somebody by the name of William
04:13 Backus, Marie Chaplain. Okay. And there are
04:15 some statements in this book that were
04:17 totally profound, alright. Some reasons as to
04:21 why a person would get depressed or go
04:24 into depression, right. Okay. And one of the
04:27 things it was in here was the fact that some
04:29 of things it was mentioning was a fact
04:31 of something or someone special
04:34 or dear to you actually dies. Okay.
04:37 It talked about finance and talked about
04:39 the loss of money, or not having enough money.
04:43 It talked about physical illness which
04:45 is another thing they can start depression.
04:47 Okay, it talked about the aging factor.
04:50 It talked about accidents that can
04:52 cause this and stroke and then loss
04:54 of physical strength, we know that
04:56 can be a heavy one. Okay.
04:58 Separation and divorce, alright,
05:00 another one and then how about a fear and
05:03 rejection and also low self esteem and that
05:07 was just to name of few and the book went
05:09 on to make a statement, it says that
05:11 any of these events can be an opportunity
05:15 for the devil to slip a few suggestion into
05:19 the person's self talk. Now self talk is what
05:23 we actually say to ourselves and what
05:25 we believe to be true and often times that
05:28 self talk can really get us into trouble.
05:30 Okay. You know, as far as I may say
05:32 trouble, I mean get us into a state of
05:34 depression and on top of that as I name the
05:36 list how about if you had any combination
05:39 let's say you have a death and you have a
05:41 accident, so just compound, and you
05:43 have no money, situation. Well, you know,
05:44 you're well on your way and so the
05:46 statement you've made as we open the
05:47 program up, it so appropriate, right,
05:49 right, so appropriate. Let me I want to now
05:51 that you mentioned that Honey,
05:53 you mentioned I think finance and there is a
05:55 lot of statements from the same author the
05:58 book "Mind, character, and personality" and
06:01 I kind of glance through that, this is a
06:03 chapter just on depression, yeah.
06:06 There is other chapters too that's
06:07 related to that and I found several things
06:09 that she has mentioned, some of
06:12 things that deals with depression, some of
06:14 the culprits. You would not find in
06:17 a text book. You would not find on the
06:20 national mental health association website
06:23 etc, good information there, but this author
06:27 gives us more insight as far as some of the
06:29 causes or culprits of depression.
06:31 And I have the book here with me, I'm just
06:33 gonna read something here in relationship to,
06:36 you mentioned about finance, honey, yes,
06:38 so this is what this author says about
06:40 finance now that you've mentioned it
06:42 because again lot of people sink into
06:44 depression for lack of funds or finance,
06:48 alright, so this is what this author says,
06:50 it is very profound "At times I am called
06:55 to pass through financial perplexities
06:59 but I do not worry about money.
07:04 God takes care of my affairs, I do all that
07:08 I can, and when the Lord sees that it is
07:12 best for me to have money, He sends it to
07:15 me, alright, mind, character and
07:18 personality book 1, page 493, and again
07:21 so therefore dealing with one of the
07:23 culprits of how a person can sink into
07:26 depression, finance, and lack of money,
07:30 and I think it ties in with, having faith that
07:34 if God can take care of the sparrows,
07:36 he can take care of the animals, and
07:38 the kingdom, the animal kingdom and we're
07:41 more valuable than animal kingdom
07:43 at least I think we should be.
07:45 So therefore, God lay down his life
07:48 for us in ransom. He is concerned
07:51 about our needs. He is concerned about our wants.
07:55 He's concerned about our desires.
07:58 He knows what we need. He just wants us to
08:00 ask him in faith, but the thing that He says
08:03 is I do all that I can. So we have a sense of
08:07 responsibility sometimes we may not do all that
08:09 we can or may misappropriate the
08:13 funds that God has allowed us to receive.
08:16 So therefore, I have faith that God will
08:19 take care of us and when He sees that
08:21 I need money. He sends it to me.
08:23 Well, we know that's totally
08:25 a wonderful statement.
08:27 And a true statement. Yeah, that's true.
08:28 A true statement. And some others to
08:30 that I'm gonna save for the end of the
08:31 program that we will be definite eye opener
08:34 wow, as far as that's concerned.
08:36 Well, I guess the question that I would
08:38 have then and probably the audience
08:39 as well and that is Curtis, what exactly is
08:42 depression, and who's at risk?
08:46 Well, now depression is defined as a
08:49 persistent sadness, alright, now it's
08:53 different from being blue having a blue
08:55 day, alright, there is different types of
08:58 depression, let me just deal with the types first.
09:01 First, we have being blue it's not really a
09:05 depression but just having a bad day,
09:07 but the first major type is Dysthymia.
09:10 Dysthymia, you probably haven't
09:11 heard that term, not one of the popular
09:13 terms you probably hear, but it's a very
09:16 mild of case of depression, a very
09:18 mild type of depression, okay, now a person's
09:21 able to function, able to go to work and
09:23 even be sociable, but they're not really at
09:26 a 100 percent at full steam, alright, it could
09:29 be long-term. And then you have
09:31 the second type is clinical depression,
09:34 that can be mild or moderate, clinical
09:37 depression where we'll go into
09:38 symptoms later on about can't even get
09:41 out of bed and other symptoms attached to that.
09:43 We have another type call bipolar disorder.
09:48 Sometimes used to be called manic depression.
09:51 And we have bi, two, so we have two types
09:53 of almost personalities there's another type
09:56 called Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD).
10:02 We're gonna have a program just on that
10:05 particular type of depression in the
10:06 coming week, so those are different
10:08 types of depression. Now whose at risk?
10:11 Strangely enough, women are more at
10:13 risk than men, 2 to 4 times more than men,
10:17 okay. Sometimes we assume that maybe
10:20 imbalance of hormones and I think
10:24 without getting too much in trouble,
10:26 I think women we just, they're just wired
10:28 differently than men, absolutely and I am
10:31 just going to leave that alone, okay.
10:32 Alright, so they can probably take any
10:34 more whatever sociable and
10:36 emotional that kind of things so, in the
10:38 elderly we have to always be mind for
10:40 elderly, one in seven elderly over 65 years
10:43 of age is also depressed and
10:45 sometimes due to a loss of a loved one
10:47 which you I think you mentioned before,
10:49 death and that kind of things, so those are
10:51 things that the some of the types of depression.
10:54 I think let's go to our next graphic.
10:56 Let's look at some of the symptoms of
10:58 depression as well. This is the Hamilton
11:00 depressive score. Let's go to the graphic
11:02 this time. Now, we have different
11:04 symptoms and let's look at the first
11:06 symptom first. Is insomnia, this a
11:09 person who's probably sleeping
11:11 later in the evening or later in the morning
11:13 where he cannot get out of the bed or don't
11:15 want to get out of the bed,
11:17 sometimes they can't sleep.
11:19 That's one sign of depression.
11:21 Let's go to our next one, Interest, usually
11:24 a person who is depressed have a loss
11:26 of interest, a loss of activity that they used
11:30 to enjoy, alright, that's another one.
11:32 Let's go to next one, mood, now this can
11:35 be anxiety or feeling sad or feeling grief
11:42 and those kind of things, so just really
11:44 feeling bad all the time. Okay, let's go to our
11:47 next one, anxiety, anxiousness, irritability
11:53 again another sign that the person
11:55 might be depressed. Let's go to the next
11:57 one, weight, now again this can be
12:00 weight gain 'cause you tend to eat you
12:02 know cause just depressed so you eat
12:05 to fill that void or you're not eating
12:08 enough because you are depressed so it can
12:11 be weight loss either or. Let's go to our next
12:15 one, cognition, now this could be again
12:18 not able to make decisions properly,
12:21 not able to remembering names
12:23 or make an adjustment calls so your cognition
12:28 is impaired due to depression.
12:31 Let's go to our next one, energy, people
12:33 just simply those who are depressed are
12:36 fatigued, tired, just don't feel like doing
12:39 anything alright, so a loss of energy,
12:42 and the last one is suicide, this can be
12:45 suicide thoughts and suicide attempts.
12:50 So this is the hallmark of the Hamilton
12:53 Ratings Scale. This has been now
12:55 there for last I guess 30, 40 years this is
12:58 trade mark or the standard of depression.
13:00 Now with those symptoms in mind
13:03 usually to be clinically depressed,
13:06 a person has to experience at least 4
13:08 or 5 of those things for at least two weeks,
13:13 alright, okay, therefore, person said
13:15 to be clinically depressed. Now you want to rule
13:17 out of course blood lab works as far as
13:21 maybe you have a low thyroid functioning
13:24 or maybe low in B12, B6, because that can
13:27 also have signs of depression as well.
13:29 So in balancing all the way round.
13:31 Yes, exactly. From mood swings to all
13:33 the way to, wow! That's kind of heavy...
13:36 Now you've mentioned your
13:38 book about go ahead honey.
13:39 No, I was just thinking then really
13:41 and truly all the things I was mentioning
13:42 earlier as to culprits or reasons is right on target.
13:46 Yes, exactly. And you know,
13:48 I guess you then kind of have to be able to
13:51 still enough or have someone around and
13:53 might even ask the question, you know
13:54 are you okay or you seem to be different,
13:57 you're not like you were before because
13:59 you might even know you are actually depressed.
14:01 Yeah, I think this is what a caregiver or a
14:03 loved one comes into play. See folks and we're
14:06 going to go into this more through,
14:09 authoritatively in the next coming weeks, sure.
14:11 About the person who may see the loved one
14:14 having so many symptoms. You need to be careful,
14:17 you need to urge them gently to do
14:19 something as far as activity is concerned
14:22 and if a person is really clinically
14:23 depressed, they really cannot pull
14:25 themselves up because dealing with
14:27 the mental imbalance as well.
14:28 We will get more to that later on.
14:30 But you miss about some things about
14:31 why people getting depressed and we're
14:33 looking at some culprits and so this is
14:36 a book called "The Mind, character,
14:37 and personality" we read this book before.
14:40 Some of the statements and I want
14:42 to list just a few of these as time will
14:44 allow us as far as some of the
14:46 culprits of depression. Now, again, like
14:49 you said before. This is gonna be an
14:51 eye opened for most people.
14:53 You probably will never thing about this
14:56 first cause of depression, okay, but
14:59 here it is so folks hold on to your seat,
15:01 we'll now find this in a text book or the
15:03 national mental association as well.
15:07 With a closed room, the circulation is depressed.
15:15 The blood moves sluggishly through the
15:19 system because it is not purified and
15:23 vitalized by the pure, invigorating air of heaven.
15:28 Now get this, the mind because of that,
15:32 the mind becomes depressed and gloomy
15:37 with the closed room. That means that a lack
15:41 of fresh air and so therefore, of course in
15:46 the winter time there is more people
15:48 depressed in the winter than in summer time.
15:50 Everything is closed you turn heat up all
15:52 the windows are closed so there is no
15:54 fresh air coming in, so circulation is
15:57 depressed that affects the mind and the mind
15:59 become depressed. And in the morning
16:01 time you feel so tired and sluggish and
16:04 that's one of the culprits of depression
16:06 in Mind, Character, and Personality,
16:08 so that's a eye open and you probably
16:10 might not recognize that or even think
16:12 about that well, that's one of the causes.
16:15 We know in our program we do,
16:16 we go, we travel one of our program is
16:18 called the seventh spiritual stress busters.
16:20 That's true and in that when we talk about
16:22 the importance of air, and how important it
16:24 is and people often surprised.
16:26 Yeah, they are. That we're all kind of
16:27 trapped up in the house and we got the
16:29 curtains down and heat up or the air
16:31 conditioning on and not enough fresh air.
16:33 I am telling you that to have those
16:35 windows open in the evening, before you
16:37 go to bed it actually is a the different feeling
16:40 you have in the morning when you wake up.
16:41 You really have, and one more thing that this
16:44 author says too, and folks so if you're
16:46 listening and if you have symptoms of
16:49 depression, the symptoms we've have
16:51 mentioned or you know someone who is
16:52 depress the number one, one thing,
16:55 one thing you really probably need to
16:57 really do is have your window open
16:59 up in your bedroom. Now make sure that
17:05 the window is not at the head of your bed
17:09 so therefore, you won't have a direct
17:11 draft, make sure the window is either at
17:13 the side of your bed or at the foot of your
17:15 bed, so this is what you need to do.
17:17 We say this in our seminar presentations.
17:20 If you have the head of your bed at your
17:24 window, you need to do one of two things,
17:29 either move your bed or move your window,
17:34 whichever is easier. Okay, now for me is
17:37 to move the bed, alright, true,
17:39 but to have the fresh air coming in and just
17:41 maybe a inch or two the fresh air coming
17:43 in while we're sleeping increases our
17:46 circulation. The brain does not become
17:49 depressed and gloomy and this is one of the
17:52 overlooked culprits and it may not be the only
17:55 culprits but one of the culprits of depression
17:58 and we mentioned about also finance as well.
18:01 And one more thing well I have mentioned
18:02 as well as the clock is ticking like also a
18:04 diseased imagination the same author
18:07 says that as well. We have a disease
18:10 imagination then therefore the whole
18:13 system becomes depressed as well,
18:16 cause of jealousy, envy and grief,
18:20 anxiety, remorse, discontent it depresses
18:24 the whole system the mind is included as a
18:28 matter of fact in the coming weeks we
18:29 have an entire program entitled the
18:32 art of positive thinking. Right, we will deal
18:35 with that as well. One of the things that this
18:37 author points out too is that and this is very
18:40 profound when the word of God is set to
18:44 the side then she says the mind becomes
18:49 dwarfed and cheapened. And in place of that
18:54 we will read material that is not inspired
18:59 is a double whammy, yeah.
19:01 Therefore again those who are depressed or
19:04 is a mild or moderate whatever when God's
19:07 word is set aside again we are inviting
19:10 depression to come into our lives and to
19:12 our minds and this is how Satan controls us
19:15 through our mental capacity.
19:18 So, this is going to be a series of our next
19:20 coming weeks so I want you to stay by for that.
19:23 Well, you definitely want to stay by
19:24 because it looks like we are just getting
19:26 stories in the whole subject of depression.
19:28 Alright, that's right. I know you wonder
19:29 are we going in the kitchen and the
19:31 answer is absolutely we are, we are going
19:33 into kitchen I want you get your paper and pencil.
19:36 We are gonna be doing a squash casserole.
19:39 I am telling you its going to
19:40 be delicious. So stay by.