Abundant Living

Building Better Bones I

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

Program transcript

Participants: Curtis Eakins, Paula Eakins


Series Code: AL

Program Code: AL00150A

00:01 A question was asked to women over 75 years of
00:04 age and it's sobering answer was given in return.
00:07 Here is the question, would you rather die or
00:12 break a hip and be admitted to a nursing home?
00:15 The sobering answer over 80 percent of the women
00:18 said they would rather die. Today's program is
00:21 entitled "Building Better Bones Part 1," so stay by.
00:56 Hi, welcome to Abundant Living glad you
00:58 allowed us to come in to your living room again
01:00 once more. My name is Curtis Eakins and I like to
01:02 introduce my wife, my beautiful bride of 12
01:05 glorious years, Paula Eakins. How are you doing today
01:08 honey? I'm doing wonderful. Okay, you're
01:09 looking pretty good too. Thank you. I like you
01:11 hairstyle by the way, thank you, yes you are
01:13 welcome. Praise the Lord. You made some
01:15 statements at opening. Yeah, the opening
01:17 statement, about woman would rather die than
01:22 have hip fractures, that's right, that's heavy.
01:24 Yeah, that's heavy again let me reemphasis that
01:27 they asked several hundred women over the age
01:29 of 75 that question. Would you rather die or
01:35 break a hip and be admitted to a nursing home
01:37 in over 70, over 80 percent of people who were
01:41 asked that question said they would rather die.
01:45 And again this is a debilitating disease,
01:48 right and over 66 percent of the people,
01:51 who break a hip lose their independence.
01:55 So, because of that most women in that group
01:58 said we rather die, it's a sad thing but we're
02:02 going to explore this topic of osteoporosis
02:05 Building Better Bones so for the next two weeks
02:08 we're going to also explore how to increase the
02:11 bone density, bone mass so that we don't have
02:14 to break our hip, spine or wrist or forearm etcetera.
02:17 So, it's epidemic. Why don't you then define
02:19 for us the definition of osteoporosis and then how
02:22 would they test it, how will we test to find out
02:25 whether we have it or not? Okay, let's talk about
02:28 the bone itself, now lot of people may think that
02:31 the bone is a dead tissue okay. Bones are alive
02:35 and they demand a lot of things to make them
02:39 more dense, bones contain about 30 percent of
02:42 water is bone, a bone matrix. Now, there is two
02:45 terms I want to explain before we're going to
02:48 the bone, the definition and also the testing as well.
02:51 First of all, we have we called bone cells called
02:54 osteocytes, okay now there are two types.
02:57 We have osteoblasts and we have osteoblasts.
03:04 Now osteoblasts are cells that build up the bone,
03:10 B for bone, building up osteoblast it builds bone,
03:13 okay. Cells called osteoclast C for chewing up,
03:17 they chew a bone. So, we have osteoblast it
03:19 builds up the bone, osteoclast it builds down the
03:22 bone. So, this is called bone remodeling and this
03:25 happens throughout our course of living,
03:28 there by the bone builds-up and then they
03:31 tear down, build-up and tear down. This is bone
03:34 remodeling, okay. Now our peak bone mass reaches
03:39 about the age of 30. Therefore, having said
03:42 that let's go to our graph and let's explain this more
03:45 in detail by this graphic. Now, you see here that
03:49 again at the age of about 30, we have peak bone
03:54 mass thereby you want to make sure that it's
03:57 more like a RA account, the more you have in
04:00 your RA account then the more you have to
04:04 live in your bone mass until end of your life.
04:07 So, we have a lot of bone mass built up at
04:09 age of 30 that you can coast longer as you grow
04:13 outgrow close to the closing years of ones life.
04:16 Now, after the age of 30, we began to lose as
04:20 you see this graphic here lose more bone than
04:24 we build-up. So, now the line is going down after
04:27 the age of 30 and therefore that's why we have
04:31 people who have osteoporosis or even low
04:34 bone mass. Now, you look at this chart here this
04:37 is a test, this is called the Dexa scan, Dexa
04:43 scan it's stand for Dual energy X-ray
04:47 absorptometry and this is the main goal standard
04:51 to test bone matrix, bone mass, there by it will
04:56 give you a number and this is a "T" number.
04:58 Now you look closely as this graphic here.
05:01 A minus 1 down to a minus 2.5 in that area there
05:07 we called that low bone mass. You don't have
05:11 osteoporosis just low bone mass, now below the
05:14 red line this is below 2.5, minus 2.5 and below
05:21 we call that a person having osteoporosis, okay.
05:25 In that low bone mass and osteoporosis,
05:27 we have 44 million people who fall in that category.
05:31 So, again this is T- Score and this could be done
05:34 at any doctors' office and again thank you
05:36 Amanda for that graphic, they will measure the
05:40 bone mass in the hip, the spine, and the wrist
05:46 those three areas. So, again we need to have that
05:49 T- Scale a measure, so we know where we stand
05:51 because remember now, you know, hypertension
05:55 is called the "silent killer" right. Osteoporosis is
05:59 called "the silent disease" because bone is being
06:04 snatched or the bone matrix the calcium is being
06:06 snatched from our bones and we don't even
06:09 know it, it's the silent disease. So, we need to
06:12 do that and you have, your bone mass check
06:15 sometime ago didn't you honey? Well, I was very
06:17 surprised as the matter of fact, they were doing some
06:19 testing and I had an opportunity to go and have
06:22 the test done, they did on my foot, they actually
06:24 did on my foot into a machine and tested out
06:28 and I was like one of those praise the Lord because
06:30 when he finished with the bone mass they said
06:32 that my bone density was that of a 22-year-old
06:36 women. 22-year-old, I'm like go Jesus go Jesus
06:40 go, okay now let's explain it that now you have
06:43 a bone mass of a 22-year-old yes, so now
06:47 probably people need to know your age so they
06:48 can see how that is impact on your bone mass
06:53 because. Let's say if you're 23 then that's not
06:57 much over significant change there,
06:59 but maybe you wanna explore that or share with
07:01 the people your age and then they can get a
07:03 idea of your bone mass and how important that is.
07:08 So, he is trying to get me tell my age, now I'm just
07:11 trying to emphasize for the TV audience.
07:14 Let me just say this because of the fact that
07:15 I'm involved in a lot of strength exercises and
07:18 walking then of course the more walking and
07:21 exercise you're involved in then you actually,
07:23 your chronological age and your physical age are
07:26 different, so for all the women out there you know
07:28 I'm not gonna go there with the age thing you
07:30 understand very well, Mary what I'm saying so.
07:33 We will move on to the next subject as to why is
07:35 it that there a women who actually get osteoporosis,
07:38 okay. And the reason for that is that well yes okay,
07:44 okay we're going to next one. Now, osteoporosis,
07:47 one of the things that happens is that we have
07:49 talked before on our program, about menopause
07:51 women and going to menopause, we talked about
07:53 pre-menopause, we talked about post-menopause and
07:56 the women who are sitting right smack out in
07:57 the middle and if you recall those programs of course
08:00 if you don't have then you can always check with
08:01 3ABN we did a our whole series or all these programs
08:05 talking about menopause and osteo-menopause
08:09 and heart disease menopause and cancer,
08:11 menopause and diabetes, menopause and weight
08:13 management. All which relating to women and
08:15 your health, but about 40 percent Curtis of the
08:18 women who are in menopause okay actually have
08:23 a problem because whether it's surgical or
08:26 natural menopause they are going through.
08:28 Okay, they can actually lose that bone density
08:31 mainly because of the ovarian function and also
08:35 poor diet. Ovarian function basically talked about now
08:39 because of the hormonal levels of the Estrogen,
08:42 Progesterone, and Testosterone levels change up
08:45 as a woman begins to move into the menopausal age
08:49 and also after postmenopausal. Then she is
08:52 really having a issue or problem her body with the
08:54 bone matrix alright okay as a matter of fact is
08:57 been said that a quite of bit within that first five
09:00 years after menopause, postmenopausal is when she
09:03 will lose most of her bone matrix and that's because
09:05 of the hormonal imbalance specifically Estrogen
09:11 alright. Okay, so when you think of it that way
09:13 that bone loss is gonna be of course as you
09:14 mentioned earlier the hip, the vertebrae, and also the
09:17 wrist. Okay, now again let's explain on that because
09:21 again postmenopausal, so now the average age
09:24 for women going to menopause I believe this was
09:26 51 years, that's average age they can be prior to
09:29 that or even after that, alright. You know, we had
09:31 talked before on a program about the fact that
09:34 really and truly even a women in her later part
09:36 of 30s is the first time we want her take a first
09:38 Estrogen test and even a bone density she can,
09:42 but usually we use it to bone density later in her
09:44 life like when she is in her 50's alright, okay.
09:47 But that's first part around the 30's the reason
09:49 for that is that in your 30's even though you are
09:52 not menopausal we want to get that Estrogen,
09:55 Progesterone, Testosterone level, so that when
09:58 you begin to move to the area of your 40's then we
10:01 have a thing called pre, pre-menopausal.
10:04 Pre-menopausal also means in those 40's now 45 up,
10:08 a woman could begin to experience problems with
10:11 her bones and also with her Estrogen level in her 40's
10:15 late 40's. Okay, so rather than wait and think that
10:18 you already 51 that's when I'm gonna get it,
10:20 alright you wanna get the scores. So, you got it in
10:22 your 30s you do it in your 40's or later 40's and
10:25 then you know where you stand automatically.
10:27 And know what the protocol is gonna be, I remember
10:29 also that we talked about the fact that a women
10:32 can also go through surgical menopause, okay,
10:34 a surgical menopause means removal of the ovaries
10:37 or removal of the uterus also mean she might
10:40 have breast cancer all these things cause a problem
10:44 whether it's through chemotherapy or taking
10:47 some type of medication. Because of the deficiency
10:49 or the problem going on that would set her
10:51 automatically into menopause, so sometime
10:54 women think that I have got to be older,
10:55 but I was surprised when I did my program how many
10:58 women in their 30's, the early 30's and even,
11:01 I even met women in their 20's, who had already
11:04 had hysterectomies done for one reason or not
11:07 so therefore they were already menopausal.
11:09 Okay, so again to sum up Estrogen seem to me a
11:13 protector, absolutely and then once a women go
11:16 through menopause of course ovaries no longer
11:18 produce an Estrogen or the size two, right and
11:20 therefore the bone matrix began to decrease gradually.
11:24 Let's go back to that first graphic Amanda, let's also
11:27 explain on that because if you look at that
11:28 graphic there look at the 50 year mark there
11:32 that's where that line begins to drop drastically
11:36 yes at the age of 50. And keep ongoing to the age
11:39 of 70, so in that mark there that will allowed span
11:42 there at the age 50 is where that line goes,
11:45 goes below the yellow line at the age of 50.
11:48 And that's where most people or most women go into
11:51 to menopause, so they lose up to a 50 percent
11:53 I heard 30/5 percent of their bone mass in the first 5
11:56 years, first 5 years after menopause right, thank you
11:58 Amanda for that graphic. I also want to
12:01 clarify to that, that you talked about the 30 years
12:04 of age where the bones are building up and
12:06 building that reservoir for later, okay and the
12:08 blessing is that we're gonna talk about that in
12:11 the other part of our program when we get to
12:13 the third portion of this program okay and that
12:15 is that the matrix was not so much to me building
12:19 up to the age of the 30. Because I didn't have
12:21 all these information about health right and
12:23 lifestyle in my 20's or in my 30's, so as a result of
12:28 that I learned that eating right which is the other
12:31 component, eating properly and also exercise,
12:35 actually keeps the bone matrix and it can rebuild
12:39 because of that. Praise the Lord alright; praise the
12:41 Lord okay good thing. We're gonna comeback to that
12:44 because how we can also supply Estrogen to
12:48 the system from the plant based source therefore
12:51 protect our bone matrix. I got a question for
12:53 you, okay we see all the time on TV, these
12:56 mustaches, mustache, everybody wear an
12:58 mustache, I got one now, which you know I'm
13:00 talking about the white mustache because of
13:02 this milk issue, because of the gray hair, and also the
13:05 newest thing is gonna right now is that you've got
13:07 milk try to comeback into play because you know
13:09 for a while there, they were trying to say
13:12 let's calm down in a whole milk, the skin milk 2
13:14 percent milk. And now all of a sudden,
13:17 the milk is not doing to well, so now they have
13:19 got all kind actors and singers coming on TV with
13:22 this white mustache, okay, women and man,
13:25 you know, women don't have them, but this is the
13:27 milk, we called them milk, okay. Milk rings on their
13:30 lip, the upper lip and so the reason that they are
13:32 trying to push that milk. But we know, wait
13:35 a minute if you said osteoporosis and we're
13:39 talking about basically American women and
13:41 Building Better Bones, Building Better Bones and
13:43 we're supposed to be drinking at least three
13:46 glasses of milk a day. And we probably drink more
13:48 milk then most countries in the world. Then my
13:50 question is, the question is why then is
13:52 osteoporosis so high in the American population?
13:56 That's a good question, maybe a man in our
13:58 camera crew can answer that question,
14:01 why don't you answer that question or may be
14:02 I can answer it, I did ask you; okay yeah you
14:03 did ask me yeah okay. Cow's milk,
14:06 cows milk now folks... Women if you want to
14:09 have brittle bones, if you want to have brittle
14:12 bones. One of the best things you can do is to
14:15 drink as much cow's milk as you possibly can.
14:21 Now, I wanna let you stew in that for a little while,
14:22 let me explain that statement. Now, first of all
14:26 we're not designed to drink cow's milk by nature
14:30 now we did a program some years ago entitled
14:32 "Not Milk" we wanna cover some of that in this
14:35 program, but not everything by the way, first
14:38 of all we are the only species on earth that
14:42 drinks another species milk. Animals don't do
14:47 that, as the matter of fact a baby calf was stop
14:50 drinking a cow's milk at the age of 6 months alright.
14:54 But we keep drinking the cow's milk until the day
14:56 we die, number 2 cows' milk even though cow's
15:00 milk has calcium. It also has something else
15:03 that will cancel out the calcium and that is animal
15:08 protein for every gram of animal protein we take
15:12 into our system we excrete out into our urine one
15:16 Milligram of calcium. Therefore any animal protein
15:20 be a milk, eggs, cheese, butter, yogurt, beef,
15:23 chicken, pork, lamb. any animal protein we lose
15:27 one milligram of calcium in our urine, so the more
15:31 animal protein we take in, we actually as one
15:34 person says we simply pee out our bones, mercy,
15:37 alright. therefore, because milk although has
15:40 calcium it has animal protein. now there has been,
15:43 I wanna use the statement that my mother
15:44 used to say years ago. There are oodles and
15:48 oodles of clinical studies on this as well.
15:51 American journal clinical nutrition, they did a study
15:53 of 44,000 women from Aiwa and they chart them
15:57 over 12 year span and they had 44 cases of
16:02 those in that group, who had broke a hip.
16:05 They discovered that those who broke a hip had
16:08 a higher ratio of lower ratio of calcium to animal
16:14 protein, okay. in other words it's not just a calcium
16:16 issue it's also animal protein issue. The more
16:20 animal protein they had in their urine and in their
16:23 blood, they are more likely to have a broken hip.
16:27 Those who did not experience any hip fractures
16:29 had a lower protein ratio and a lower... or a
16:33 higher calcium ratio. So, again is more less the
16:37 higher to calcium, the lower the protein ratio
16:40 the better of you'll be. Alright, so there is also
16:43 another clinical study of people who drink one
16:48 or less glass of milk per week had a lower rate
16:53 of hip fractures, fractures of the spine and a
16:56 wrist. those who drink two or more glasses of
17:00 milk per day had more fractures of the hip, spine,
17:06 and wrist. That was found in American journal of
17:08 public health. So, there are a lot of studies
17:12 exemplifying that, so again milk is not the thing we wanna
17:15 do as far as building bone matrix. We're gonna
17:18 talk more about that when we go into our
17:19 next program, next week and the week after
17:21 that as well, so again we need to shift from animal
17:25 protein to plant protein because guess what folks?
17:29 When we take in plant protein guess what?
17:32 We keep the calcium that we eat in our foods
17:35 alright so again as the statement goes. We're not
17:38 so much, we're not what we eat, we are what we
17:42 absorb, mercy. Because we only absorb about 30
17:45 percent of the calcium in the cow's milk, but there
17:48 was other foods we are talk about next week
17:50 where it's rich in calcium and when we get that
17:52 calcium into our bodies we keep it, that's the key.
17:56 Well, know what about caffeine because we hear
17:59 lot about that as well yeah caffeine, caffeine and
18:02 sodium as well. The more sodium we take in, okay,
18:06 the more calcium we take in, the more,
18:10 excuse me let's say it over again, the more sodium
18:13 we take into our system, okay, okay. The more
18:16 caffeine we take into our system, the more calcium
18:20 we lose from our bones and it's excreted out into the
18:24 urine. So, again calcium is excreted out when we
18:28 take in caffeinated drinks, soft drinks and also a
18:32 high sodium diet alright. Every 2300 milligrams
18:36 of sodium, we lose 60 milligrams of calcium,
18:40 mercy, see so again we need to be careful of these
18:44 are called these the bone bandits, animal protein
18:48 in any form milk, chicken, fish, pork, lamb, beef
18:53 etcetera, caffeine, sodas, coffee, sodium also,
19:01 these are bone bandits, we can talk about
19:03 cigarette smoke and alcohol too, so all these are
19:06 bone bandits, they are snatching out the calcium
19:08 from our bones and become weakened and we have
19:11 osteoporosis. Well, I guess we've got quite a
19:15 bit we're gonna be covering on each programs
19:16 and this next two times we come together and we
19:20 also have, I think just one more graph that we need
19:23 to show before we start talking about going into
19:24 the kitchen right. Yeah, let's look at this last
19:26 graphic here Amanda and this is what happens
19:29 folks we can actually build bone matrix now,
19:31 I don't have to tell you which bone we would
19:33 prefer to have the one on the right or the one
19:36 on the left. Now, of course one on the right is
19:38 a person probably is doing lot of things that we're
19:41 gonna talk about for the next two weeks.
19:43 Not drinking the animal protein or taking any
19:45 animal protein, taking in the plant protein so the
19:49 calcium is kept in our bones. But a person on the
19:51 right there again is osteoporotic bone there,
19:56 is very, it's less dense so of course we're gonna
19:59 have more fractures at a hip, spine, and the wrist.
20:03 So, again but that bone on the right,
20:06 it can be build up again, it doesn't have to be that way,
20:09 we talk about that for the next two programs.
20:12 Okay, well I guess, time to go into the kitchen,
20:13 time to go into the kitchen and now I'm gonna
20:15 be fixing a dish that does not use milk,
20:19 how about that Amen, hallelujah, okay. But I'm
20:21 making or we are going to make a creamy
20:24 strawberry desert get your paper and
20:26 pencil and meet us in the kitchen.


Revised 2014-12-17