Participants: Curtis Eakins, Paula Eakins
Series Code: AL
Program Code: AL00143A
00:01 Are you sick and tired of taking medication
00:03 for your cholesterol? And what is the best
00:05 cholesterol lowering diet? Well, those questions
00:08 will be answered in our program today entitled
00:10 Controlling Cholesterol part 2, so stay by.
00:39 Hi, welcome to Abundant Living.
00:41 I'm Curtis Eakins and my beautiful bride of
00:43 over 10 years at least at the taping of this
00:47 program is Paula Eakins.
00:49 How you doing today, honey?
00:50 Wonderful. Also better known as the
00:52 Tofu Lady that's what people
00:54 tell me, is that true? Yeah. Do you work a
00:56 lot with tofu? Absolutely, okay
00:58 other things too but tofu is one of those
00:59 main things that you work with, yes.
01:01 Okay, someone called me that the other day,
01:03 I was going somewhere when
01:04 someone said hey, Tofu Lady.
01:06 And you turned around, didn't you?
01:07 Yes, I did, yes you did, all right.
01:10 We've been talking about cholesterol.
01:12 Well, yes we have. And those who
01:13 missed the first program; this is part two, so of
01:16 course we're gonna just give you just a
01:18 tad bit, just a tad of the information that
01:21 we had on program one and you have to
01:23 call in and get the tape, okay.
01:25 Well, let's start with you now, you talk
01:26 about LDL, VLDL, HDL, and again,
01:30 briefly, what are those terms and maybe
01:33 some numbers attached to each one of
01:34 those three items. Well, I think in a
01:37 summary, I meet a lot of people who talk
01:39 about they have high cholesterol and they
01:42 went to a health fair or whatever and had
01:44 their, had them prick their finger and go
01:46 away and came back but really we
01:48 recommend that you have a full blood
01:50 panel done by your doctor, to go in and
01:53 let them take the full blood panel which
01:55 means they have been spinning around,
01:57 they get more than just an over all
01:58 cholesterol score okay, they will go and get
02:00 the LDL which is Low Density Lipoprotein,
02:03 the VLDL, Very Low Density Lipoprotein
02:05 the HDL which is the good guys High
02:09 density Lipoprotein and also the
02:11 triglyceride levels. Now the ones which
02:13 you do not want high is your LDL,
02:17 your VLDL and your triglyceride levels
02:20 okay, we've talked about all those being
02:21 low below 100 and we want to get that
02:23 cholesterol to HDL level, up above 60
02:26 okay, all right? And so it's very, very
02:28 important that you know what your
02:30 cholesterol levels are and that you have
02:31 yourself checked constantly to
02:33 see how things are going. And again, we've
02:35 mentioned about the higher the cholesterol
02:36 the overall cholesterol, the higher the risk of
02:39 cardio-vascular disease, absolutely so if the
02:41 cholesterol goes up high and of course our
02:43 risk of death from heart disease also
02:45 goes up as well. We had mentioned
02:47 about the cholesterol ratio, we found how
02:50 we can determine our cholesterol ratio,
02:52 now sometimes on your lab report,
02:54 it would give you your cholesterol ratio
02:56 in the lab report, some reports do not,
02:58 just depends on the lab, just doing the
02:59 cholesterol ratio, but cholesterol ratio if
03:03 you get your overall cholesterol and
03:04 divided by your HDL, that gives you your ratio.
03:07 Your ratio wanted be below 3.5, so again
03:11 I think we did last week as I can
03:13 remember if one's cholesterol is 190
03:18 and then HDL is 38 then the ratio is 5.0
03:22 which is very high, but as we mentioned
03:25 before if one's cholesterol is 220
03:28 but their HDL is 73, then their ratio is 3.0
03:35 which is below 3.5 so that person is in a
03:37 better shape although their overall
03:39 cholesterol is higher but the ratio is lower
03:43 because of the high HDL, and that thing needs
03:45 to be really zero in on and brought home
03:48 because people need to understand that
03:49 ratio which is more the determining factor
03:51 than the overall cholesterol.
03:53 We also made a comment about the
03:54 fact that you know that a lot of stress in
03:57 your life can also raise your cholesterol.
03:59 So, we've talked about going out in
04:01 nature, taking a nature walk you know,
04:03 lessening the stress in your life, of course
04:05 the sun, being out there, walking out in
04:07 the sun, we've talked about remember now,
04:09 you want to walk before 10 and then
04:10 you wanna walk after, a little on in the
04:12 afternoon when the sun is not so hot and
04:14 just by walking out in nature, letting God
04:16 show you flowers and butterflies and trees
04:18 and seeing how awesome He is as a
04:20 God, it helps to temper you down,
04:23 that's right so that you will feel better when
04:24 you get back, we say the Sun on
04:27 you and the Son of God in you.
04:28 Oh! I see girl, alright now, Sun on you and
04:30 the Son of God inside of you okay, absolutely.
04:32 Alright sounds good, so that's
04:34 a brief summary there. We've got quite a bit
04:37 to cover today in the program also.
04:39 Yes we do, but we need to get those
04:40 cholesterol numbers down. Yeah, we got to get
04:42 them down and one of the things I want to
04:43 ask you about Curtis and that is a lot of
04:45 people who have high cholesterol also get on
04:48 drug medication, so let's talk a little bit
04:50 about the drug medications out there
04:52 for lowering cholesterol. Okay, there are a lot
04:55 of course drug medications out there
04:56 to lower your cholesterol, one in particular is
04:58 of course your statin drugs and that's a
05:00 whole group of the drugs in that category
05:02 of Zocor, Lipitor, etcetera.
05:06 About 13 million people are taking
05:08 statin drugs, wow 13 millions and the
05:11 numbers are still counting.
05:13 If you're over 55, 20% of those individuals
05:17 are taking statin drugs, 20% of those
05:20 who are over 55 years of age so it reeks
05:24 habit because all medication is going to
05:26 affect the body in some way or another
05:28 in a negative way so you are gonna always
05:30 have side effects with that.
05:32 Now, with statin drugs of course this
05:33 can be a whole program with statin
05:35 drugs but we are just gonna mention maybe
05:37 two in particular. Number one statin
05:39 drugs will deplete coenzyme Q10
05:43 of your body, now this is not good,
05:46 this is not good this you know coenzyme
05:49 Q10 is responsible for pumping action and
05:51 the energy for the heart muscle itself,
05:53 that's right, and so when we take the
05:55 statin drugs this mineral is simply
05:57 depleted, there by you know there is a catch
05:59 22, you want to try to increase your cardio
06:02 vascular risk, to have it at a low eb,
06:06 but yet still the depletion of coenzyme Q10
06:10 goes down so another thing that is also
06:14 damaging as far as statin drugs is
06:15 concerned, it also affects your liver,
06:18 it inflames the liver so you have liver disease,
06:20 and those who do take statin drugs have to
06:22 check their liver enzymes on a consistent basis,
06:25 to see where they stand as far as statin
06:28 drugs is concerned, so the liver is
06:30 compromised and also coenzyme Q10 is
06:34 compromised as well, just by
06:35 taking the statin drugs.
06:37 Okay, that's not good, the liver for sure.
06:40 Yeah see everything, everything goes
06:42 through the liver, that's why the liver is
06:45 the main organ that suffers and there's a
06:46 lot of law suits over statin drugs and
06:49 relationships to these, the medication for
06:54 lowering cholesterol levels.
06:56 Now believe it or not, there have been
06:57 people who have been talked to me about
06:59 having high cholesterol, and one of the things
07:00 I've recommended was the thing about
07:02 walking, being out in nature, cutting back
07:04 on a lot of the things we have talked about
07:06 right now, and that is what foods
07:09 raise the cholesterol. Oh! My goodness,
07:11 okay now we mentioned this last time we met
07:14 about some of the foods that
07:15 will raise cholesterol. Number one to be
07:20 very simplistic, foods that contain
07:23 cholesterol will raise your cholesterol.
07:26 And that would be, that would be
07:29 anything that comes from animal or
07:31 anything that comes from something that
07:33 has a face or a mother, therefore that includes
07:38 everything that moves without the aid of
07:41 wind, so that's number 1. So, we need to eliminate
07:46 or really curtail those foods in particular,
07:48 now another thing that would raise our
07:51 cholesterol is foods that contain what we
07:53 call saturated fat. That will be converted
07:58 into cholesterol once it is digested,
08:02 now there are three foods, head and shoulders,
08:05 pound for pound, ounce for ounce that
08:08 has the most artery clogging,
08:11 saturated fat. Food number 3 is
08:16 whole milk, now that's going down
08:18 about 210% since 1970 and the people
08:21 now got the word out about whole milk and
08:23 people buying 1%, 2%, skimmed milk
08:26 and soy milk and so the word is going out
08:28 about that and people buying less whole milk,
08:30 but that's food number 3, that's artery
08:32 clogging saturated fat. Food number 2
08:36 has the most artery clogging saturated fat
08:38 other than one other food is ground beef,
08:42 now ground beef has gone down,
08:45 well ground beef goes up and down basically
08:48 has gone down about 30% since 1970,
08:51 you know the hoof mouth, E coli and
08:55 Mad Cow, it goes down and then of
08:57 course low carb diet, high protein diet it
09:00 goes back up again, so it goes up and
09:02 down, up and down anyway, that's food
09:04 number 2. And now food number 1,
09:08 ounce for ounce, pound for pound,
09:11 that has the most artery clogging
09:12 saturated fat, and again once we eat
09:15 saturated fat it converts into
09:17 cholesterol is cheese. Okay, you just hurt
09:21 somebody's feelings. I sure did and cheese is
09:25 going in an opposite direction,
09:27 145% increase since 1970, now folks,
09:35 that's the power of cheese and to boot,
09:38 cheese also has a high amount of sodium,
09:41 2 to 300 mg per ounce and sodium also
09:46 stresses out the kidneys, since kidneys regulate
09:48 sodium potassium and the blood pressure
09:49 goes up, so it really affects the whole
09:51 cardiovascular system. And so cheese,
09:55 ground beef and whole milk are the
09:57 three top artery clogging saturated fat.
10:01 Now, in addition to that there are other
10:03 foods we call trans fats, and you find
10:06 those foods in your baked goods,
10:07 the cookies and potato chips and maybe fried
10:10 foods, these are trans fats.
10:12 When trans fats are eaten and digested,
10:15 those foods also turn into cholesterol as well.
10:19 So we have the saturated fat,
10:21 then we have the trans fats,
10:22 so those foods are the major foods that will
10:25 raise cholesterol levels. So, we need to have
10:27 some foods that will replace those foods
10:30 and we've done programs without
10:33 cheeses, and ground beef and also your
10:36 milk that we replaced those three items right
10:39 there so we can still have the same type of
10:41 recipes but we are just exchanging
10:43 now some of the ingredients.
10:45 Well, you know when it comes to food is all
10:46 about how things look and their texture and
10:49 their taste, they feel in the mouth,
10:51 and so indeed, to be able to, there is so
10:54 much stuff going on right now as far as
10:56 foods that look like a mimic, like you got
10:58 finish the ground beef, they can mock
11:00 chicken and all kind of spreads matter of
11:03 fact a lot of new spreads on the market
11:05 right now that is a lot of options available to
11:08 us now, that's true, more than ever before.
11:10 I guess the next question is gonna be
11:11 what foods that would actually
11:13 lower the cholesterol? Okay, the foods that
11:15 would lower your cholesterol now,
11:17 I can summarize this into basically 3
11:20 groups, there are basically 3 groups of
11:23 foods that would simply drop your cholesterol.
11:28 Three in particular, now one, you
11:30 probably may not have heard of it as
11:32 much as the other two so I mention this one first.
11:35 The first food what we call plant sterols,
11:40 now plant sterols, plants in themselves
11:43 do not contain cholesterol, right.
11:45 However they do contain a large waxy
11:49 substance that chemically is related to cholesterol
11:55 but it does not contain cholesterol,
11:57 and what happens is that these foods that
11:59 contain plant sterols simply once ingested
12:04 they will inhibit the absorption of
12:07 cholesterol in the intestines,
12:10 thereby cholesterol is dropped because of
12:14 these foods that contain plant sterols,
12:17 you probably heard this and this has been
12:19 researched for over the last 40 years
12:23 in Peer-Reviewed Medical Journals
12:25 around the world, so foods that contain
12:28 plant sterols will drop the cholesterol in ones
12:32 body, it will drop or inhibit the absorption
12:35 of cholesterol in the intestines.
12:36 Now, what are those foods that contain
12:39 plant sterols? Let's go to our first
12:42 graphic and let's see what those foods are.
12:44 Here they are folks, plant sterols by mg
12:46 amount, the orange and that's the navel
12:49 orange and they has 20 mg of plant sterols,
12:53 the next we have the almonds,
12:54 and these are dried almonds,
12:56 31 mg of plant sterols and these are serving
12:59 size of course. The avocado, the avocado
13:02 has the highest amount of plant
13:04 sterols in all other food kingdom, a 76,
13:09 it's so high that the Food and Drug
13:11 Administration call avocados a functional food.
13:14 And then we have the seed group category,
13:17 the sunflower seeds have a whopping 150
13:21 mg of plant sterols, this is a serving size again.
13:25 And then the last we have the sesame seeds
13:29 at a whopping 199 mg of plant sterols,
13:34 in the sesame seeds, again these are
13:36 serving size. So, that is a array of
13:39 the most prolific foods that have the
13:41 most plant sterols in them,
13:43 I just selected some of those, there other
13:45 foods too that I can mention, but those are
13:47 one of the main foods that have the plant
13:49 sterols in them and when they go into our
13:51 system they simply block the absorption
13:54 of cholesterol in our intestines.
13:58 Now that's food group number one.
14:00 Now food group number two we have
14:03 soluble fiber. Now, soluble fiber which
14:08 are your oats, your corn, your legumes
14:14 which are beans and peas, citrus fruits and apples.
14:20 Those are some of the most powerful foods
14:22 that have the most soluble fibers in them.
14:25 Now they work differently in lowering cholesterol,
14:29 soluble fiber would simply bind bowl
14:32 acids which would normally turn into
14:34 cholesterol, thereby cholesterol is dropped.
14:37 So, they work differently than the plant sterols,
14:40 so that's the different mechanism.
14:42 So, soluble fibers again, your oats, your corn,
14:46 legumes, peas and beans and your citrus
14:49 fruit and apples. They would bind the bowel
14:52 source and thereby cholesterol
14:54 is dropped as well. The third group of
14:57 foods that will lower your cholesterol in a
15:00 different way than other two are soy
15:04 proteins or soy foods. Now soy foods, they
15:07 will lower your cholesterol by decreasing the
15:10 production that the liver produce as far as
15:14 cholesterol is concerned and also they will
15:17 increased the rate of the LDL cholesterol
15:20 from the liver, those are the bad guys.
15:22 So they work differently than the
15:24 other two. So therefore you have
15:25 the three foods here of food groups,
15:28 your plant sterols okay, your soluble
15:31 fibers and also your soy protein.
15:35 Now, The University of Toronto did a
15:39 clinical study and they looked at people
15:42 who have high cholesterol levels they
15:44 put them on a low fat low cholesterol diet
15:47 and their cholesterol dropped, but now they
15:50 added to that diet these three food groups.
15:55 They fed them plant sterols, lots of soluble
16:00 fiber type foods and also soy protein and
16:05 let's talk about the soy protein and how can
16:07 we get soy protein into the diet before
16:09 we go to our last graphic. Soy beans themselves,
16:12 okay soy beans, soy nuts, soy nuts,
16:15 soy flowers, soy flowers, soy grits,
16:17 soy grits, that's right okay that maybe a
16:19 new one to, no you've had it you've had it.
16:20 Yep, well I mean I was just talking for
16:22 the audience, okay soy grits all this is are
16:24 in the market right now and so there is
16:25 lot of products, what about Tofu is in tofu
16:27 will be in that category? I don't know, I thought
16:29 to leave the tofu into the end,
16:31 oh okay you just checking it okay,
16:32 oh yeah, so tofu can be included, absolutely.
16:35 Okay, TVP and what's then of course
16:37 yeah, yeah all the new frozen fruits on the
16:39 market right now there are substitutes
16:41 for the meat analogues they all
16:43 have the soy based soy protein as the
16:45 number one then and I think TVP,
16:49 its TVP texture in vegetable protein and
16:51 then also it is soy proteins so there is all
16:54 different kind names but difference between
16:55 the two is once brown, okay,
16:57 to represent ground beef the other one is a
16:59 beige color to represent chicken or
17:01 turkey, okay, okay, okay so there is many
17:03 ways to get in that soy protein in, many ways
17:05 many ways, okay. So now they did a
17:08 clinical study in the University of Toronto
17:11 there a few years ago and they looked at
17:13 these three food groups. Now these individuals
17:16 are always on low cholesterol,
17:19 low fat diet and the cholesterol went down.
17:21 However, they added to that foods that
17:24 contain soluble fiber that's one food group
17:28 we talked about that also plant sterols and
17:33 soy protein to their diet and they called
17:37 this diet the Portfolio Diet.
17:41 Let's go to our last graphic and this is
17:42 simply astounding, they called this the
17:45 Portfolio Diet: The results?
17:47 Total cholesterol dropped an additional
17:50 22 percent and LDL, those are the bad guys
17:55 dropped another 29 percent.
17:59 This is simply astounding; of course this is from
18:02 the medical journal called in Environmental
18:03 Nutrition 2003. The researcher Saul
18:07 Kendal, there in Toronto said that
18:10 those type of figures, those type of
18:12 percentage one can expect by taking
18:15 statin drugs. So this is really astounding
18:18 we called that the Portfolio Diet and
18:20 I have a new name for that I called that the
18:21 three amigos, soluble fiber, soy protein and
18:28 plant sterols, the three amigos.
18:32 Are you out one missed amigo what
18:33 does that right there you have, okay, yeah
18:35 I'm gonna show you just in next few
18:38 seconds, what is the size of ones artery
18:43 because it's very astounding because it
18:45 doesn't take much to clog up our
18:47 coronary arteries or our blood vessels,
18:49 so folks right here you're looking at the
18:52 size of ones artery here and again that's
18:55 why sometimes maybe a hamburger,
18:58 a order of fries or cheeseburger,
18:59 whatever, it can clog up the arteries and it
19:02 doesn't take much because they're so
19:04 small that's why a heart attack is
19:06 eminent and a heart attack occurs every 32 seconds.
19:12 A stroke about every 58 seconds give or take.
19:16 So that's why it's very important to really
19:19 consume a plant based diet the way God
19:22 design in the first place, that is
19:24 absolutely amazing, yes it is, absolutely.
19:26 Well, I guess after that one you're wondering,
19:28 are we going into the kitchen and the
19:29 answer is yes, okay. And we are going to
19:31 be fixing an Eggplant Stir-Fry, get you
19:34 paper and your pencil and meet us in the kitchen.