Participants: Curtis Eakins, Paula Eakins
Series Code: AL
Program Code: AL00142A
00:01 High cholesterol levels is a risk factor for heart
00:03 disease and stroke. This nation's number
00:06 one and number three killers.
00:08 So, do you have a high cholesterol lifestyle,
00:11 our program is entitled "Controlling
00:13 Cholesterol" part 1 so stay by.
00:41 Hi, welcome to Abundant Living,
00:42 I'm Curtis Eakins, and this is my beautiful
00:44 bride, Paula Eakins. Alright, how are
00:47 you doing today honey? I'm doing wonderful today.
00:49 And you are looking mighty good too.
00:51 Thank you very much. You usually looks good
00:52 anyway so I praise the Lord for that.
00:54 Praise Him, yes indeed He. Yes.
00:56 Okay today, today we are gonna be talking
00:58 about cholesterol. We are gonna be talking
01:00 about cholesterol. Now we are gonna
01:01 have this in two parts, this is part one and then
01:04 next time we meet we will go with part two as well.
01:06 Cholesterol is a topic that, just like I said
01:09 before is contributing factor to this nation's
01:11 number one and number three killers heart
01:13 disease and stroke so. We are gonna look at
01:15 some numbers HDL, LDL, VLDL,
01:20 cholesterol ratio and all these kind of good things.
01:23 And despite the information out on the
01:26 cholesterol, people still have
01:28 high cholesterol levels. Yep, and I think
01:31 cholesterol has gotten a bad rap, you know
01:34 it's just like fat you know we do need fat
01:38 certain types of fat. We do need cholesterol,
01:40 certain types of cholesterol.
01:42 So, we are gonna look into this
01:43 topic quite thoroughly. Well I guess the first
01:46 question, that the always might have is
01:49 what exactly is cholesterol?
01:51 And what is the purpose in the body?
01:53 Okay, cholesterol is a fat, waxy, yellow
01:59 substance that's found in the bloodstream and
02:02 also in all body cells. And as main purpose of
02:05 cholesterol was to simply take the fat from
02:08 the liver and transport throughout the body
02:11 and then also go back to the liver and then take
02:13 some more fat to distribute throughout
02:14 the body and cholesterol itself.
02:16 So, is a transport system and it uses the blood
02:20 vessels as it's highway to do that.
02:23 So, again we do need cholesterol now again
02:26 some of the purposes for cholesterol number
02:29 one's for cell membrane manufacture of sex
02:32 hormone, steroids, brain cell, central nervous
02:36 system, organ protection, reproduction, body energy.
02:42 So, you see we do need cholesterol contrary to
02:46 I don't know maybe not popular belief but some
02:48 people think they oh I don't want cholesterol,
02:51 you know that, that causes heart disease.
02:52 Well folks we do need cholesterol but again in
02:56 certain amounts it's really advantageous for
02:59 our body system on a daily basis.
03:01 Now I guess the thing that I'm thinking about
03:02 when you say we do need cholesterol and
03:04 you gave very good definition about what
03:06 it's used for inside the body?
03:08 First thing I'm thinking about and I'm wondering
03:10 if you're thinking the same thing, is that mean
03:11 I eat a lot of cholesterol foods and
03:13 what we able to do that. Okay, okay see I can
03:16 see the emails right now, oh yes.
03:17 Well Curtis saying and Paula saying we need
03:19 cholesterol so we can go through these fast
03:21 food restaurants and eat these big burgers,
03:24 and double cheese and double quarter pounder
03:28 and you know fryers, oh that's cholesterol
03:31 and we need cholesterol folks and I can see that
03:34 email coming yeah. And I guess that our
03:36 next question is gonna be then where exactly
03:39 does this cholesterol which you are taking
03:41 about come from? Okay. Well first of all
03:44 let me say this I just thought about this,
03:46 cholesterol comes from God.
03:51 Why because God created our bodies,
03:55 so when God formed man from the dust of
03:59 the ground. He fashioned his body,
04:02 He also formed the internal organs of the
04:05 body too to function properly.
04:08 Therefore having said that let me say this.
04:10 There is one organ in particular when God
04:14 made mankind that is responsible for the
04:18 manufacturing of cholesterol
04:21 in the beginning. So this is God's plan
04:24 and we are again we say this text quite often but
04:27 again we are fearfully and wonderfully made.
04:33 Now let's go to our first graphic let's see what
04:34 we talking about here. There's a little man
04:37 there and he has cholesterol,
04:38 now going there are two sources of cholesterol
04:41 that goes into the body. Let's look at the top
04:44 source first of all, the source that goes right
04:47 inside of our mouth, honey.
04:48 Now of course we have the eggs there,
04:50 we have the bacon and we have what's that
04:53 hamburger and French fries and ice cream and
04:57 cake and burger. So, all of those foods
05:00 contain cholesterol, again anything that
05:04 comes from the animal kingdom that has a
05:07 mother or a face contains cholesterol.
05:09 So, these foods animal products
05:12 contain cholesterol. So, when we eat that
05:14 then of course our body has a high
05:16 incident of cholesterol. And that can be
05:19 anywhere from 100 to 500 mg per day based
05:24 on one's diet. Now some people eat
05:26 than that, but again 1 to 500 maybe more.
05:29 But, now look at the bottom there the liver,
05:31 as I said before the liver is designed by God to
05:36 manufacture all the cholesterol
05:38 that the body needs. The liver manufactures
05:41 up to 1000 mg of cholesterol
05:45 per day the liver. So, if we do not eat any
05:48 other food that contains cholesterol the liver will
05:52 do its job effectively without any cholesterol
05:56 coming to our body thought our mouths.
05:58 So, liver does its job, yeah.
06:00 We tilt the scales against us when we
06:03 take in food that contains cholesterol.
06:06 Now we have a surplus of cholesterol.
06:08 So, what you are saying then is that we don't
06:10 really need to have cholesterol in our foods,
06:13 because, right, by do anything.
06:14 Because God created our bodies to
06:17 manufacture that cholesterol.
06:19 So, again everything points back
06:21 to God the creator. That's why sometimes
06:24 we talked about the curbing the carbs a few
06:28 weeks ago and again some people who
06:31 advocate evaluation. The big bang theory or
06:35 amoeba that was in the water and it grew on
06:39 dry land and then it climbed up the trees
06:41 and snapped his tail and became my great, great,
06:43 great, great grandfather, you know.
06:45 Well folks you know God is not honored by
06:49 that theory, so we need to look at the word of
06:52 God, see how we are created and if we look at
06:56 anatomy and physiology. Just basic anatomy and
06:58 physiology the more we read, the more we study
07:02 the more it points back to God our creator that
07:05 He has placed this liver in our system to
07:08 manufacture the cholesterol.
07:10 And other things in the body that it needs too,
07:12 so everything points back to God.
07:14 Well I think the thing that's so amazing is
07:16 talking about the cholesterol issue but all
07:18 the information that comes from 3ABN.
07:20 That we're constantly trying to uplift God and
07:25 keeping them in the position where he needs
07:26 to be as the creator of everything all things okay.
07:29 So everything points back to God,
07:31 everything, another thing that also increases
07:33 our cholesterol is emotional stress.
07:37 See we can not eat any cholesterol type foods
07:40 into our mouth be a vegetarian or be a
07:42 vegan vegetarian or plant based diet.
07:45 But, yet have not the where with all to manage
07:48 emotional stress, that in itself
07:51 will raise our cholesterol.
07:53 Also not getting enough sunlight,
07:57 now we did a program several years ago
07:58 entitled there's something new on the sun.
08:02 And of course we don't have time to go through
08:03 that but just to purpose that, to see what are not
08:07 sun at well low your cholesterol it does
08:10 lower your cholesterol by the way go outside
08:12 in the sun preferably maybe mid morning or
08:16 late afternoon with most of your skin exposed.
08:19 Now of course folks you want still be you
08:21 know decent you know maybe doing in the
08:23 backyard with lot of bushes around, still decent.
08:25 Yeah but still decent, skin exposed to the
08:28 sunlight, for at least maybe 30 minutes or an
08:30 hour, go back inside and check your cholesterol,
08:33 your cholesterol would drop and so very
08:36 amazing for us, sunlight will lower your
08:37 cholesterol, emotional stress
08:39 how to handle that. Anti-stress measures
08:42 will lower one's cholesterol.
08:44 So, it's not just a food issue and there's also
08:46 genetic disposition as well, but again we don't
08:49 really promote that as much because I think a
08:51 lot of times that has been given so much
08:55 credibility of genetic disposition where
08:57 I think a lot of times it's really lifestyle overall.
09:01 Yeah I'm kind of thinking and also in
09:03 the same line which you are saying about being
09:05 under stress, right. And then actually going
09:07 out and taking a walk in nature, yes.
09:09 Taking a walk when the sun is out, we always
09:12 say once again that you wanna go out before
09:14 10'O clock before sun gets very hot and then
09:16 you don't want to do again later on the afternoon.
09:19 But, just going out being a nature, right,
09:21 take a walk with the sun on
09:23 you and the Son of God in you.
09:25 Okay watch it now, okay, okay you start
09:27 preaching now baby, now that will take the
09:29 stress down, okay and it will also
09:32 lower the cholesterol. Alright talk 50 girl
09:35 alright you got to go on now.
09:37 Don't get you started; okay, okay now.
09:39 Okay, another thing is that make sure that we
09:42 do this sunlight treatment that we
09:44 wanna make sure that the skin is dry and clean.
09:46 That way it will not cause any burning
09:49 sensation, to those who usually get skin cancer
09:53 or those individuals who have a high fat diet
09:57 in their meal planning. So, again when the
10:01 sunlight strikes the skin because of the high fat
10:03 diet it will turn that skin to cancer so again those
10:07 who have a plant based diet and there's been
10:08 studies done in Houston, Texas about...
10:12 with different two groups of rats and in
10:14 fair one group of rats a plant based diet,
10:17 another group of rats a high fat diet.
10:19 And then they exposed both groups of rats to
10:22 the sunlight, the ultraviolet rays of the sun.
10:24 And those are rats had a plant based diet did not
10:27 have any skin cancers. Those rats have had a
10:29 fat based diet had a lot of skin cancers.
10:32 So, again it's not just the sunlight that causes
10:35 skin cancer but the foods that we eat, a high
10:38 fat diet that when sunlight does strike to
10:41 skin it turns to cancer. So, the sun is
10:43 not the blame, aright. Well, and of course
10:46 they want more information on that,
10:47 when they have to call back 3ABN
10:49 and get the tape or something.
10:50 Oh they email us yeah we give some more
10:52 information. Now let's look at some
10:54 letters here, we hear the LDL, VLDL, HDL.
10:59 Let's talk about that and what did they mean as
11:01 far as overall cholesterol is concerned.
11:02 Well first of all a lot of time, people are trying
11:04 to find out what their cholesterol levels are?
11:06 What they would do is go and you might be at
11:08 a health fair somewhere and you have them pick
11:10 your finger and you go off and you come back
11:12 to get that number to find out what your
11:14 cholesterol score is, okay. Basically when
11:16 you have your cholesterol done you
11:18 need to have we call a full blood panel.
11:21 Which means that they don't just pick the finger
11:23 and then just give you the overall score,
11:25 which can be very high. But you want them to
11:27 go inside and find out what those scores are?
11:30 Okay. You wanna find out what is your LDL,
11:32 like you said your HDL, your VLDL, okay.
11:35 LDL standing for Low Density Lipoprotein.
11:37 Okay. HDL, High- Density Lipoprotein.
11:40 And VLDL Very Low Density Lipoprotein.
11:44 And then also in that whole configuration is
11:46 also your triglyceride levels.
11:49 And you wanna make sure that you can see
11:50 these levels this for you actually go in and see
11:53 what's going on, okay. In order for fat to go
11:55 into the bloodstream, it has to be broken down
11:57 to his most single unit. And once that really get
12:00 on, we call a lipoprotein, it's called
12:02 lipoprotein it gets on the back of a
12:05 lipoprotein train and that's why it's call lipo
12:09 lipid protein, okay, gets on the train and on that
12:12 train it goes right into the cell to give us the
12:15 energy and the stuff that we need to have.
12:16 Well the HDL the good guys, the good guys,
12:20 going in very easily, the LDL means there's too
12:23 much fat still, VLDL very much fat and these
12:27 have a hard time. So, they remain in the
12:29 bloodstream and by the being of bloodstream
12:31 they calls a problem of building
12:32 up plaque in the system. Okay now look at some
12:35 numbers now the HDL, and LDL what numbers
12:38 that we're looking at that one and some time
12:39 it would be on a full panel blood lipid profile
12:42 but just for, in this program.
12:44 Well there was a time Curtis when I used to
12:45 say that if we could just get those HDL the good
12:47 guys above 35 will be good, yeah.
12:50 That's not been true, what's been going on
12:51 now is more research has come out and
12:53 they're discovering now that our HDL levels
12:55 need to be above 60, right, alright, above 60
12:58 HDL, now what about the LDL?
12:59 Now we do the LDL we're talking about
13:01 below a 100, okay. And the same thing
13:03 with our triglyceride levels.
13:05 You wanna get those numbers low because
13:07 the higher they are, the higher the overall score.
13:09 However I do wanna emphasize once again is
13:11 that you could have a nice high score which
13:13 Curtis is gonna talk about little bit later.
13:15 A high score but you HDL, the good guys are
13:18 ones gonna be high. We always say you
13:20 want high HDLs, Hi I'm so glad if you are here,
13:24 HDL the good guy, yes, yes, okay alright then.
13:27 Well so let's go. I think one of things that we
13:29 wanna talk about here is that the risk factors
13:31 concerning cholesterol, as it
13:33 relates to heart disease. Okay, yeah again high
13:36 cholesterol does have a risk factor for heart
13:39 disease and stroke. That's the number one
13:42 and number three killers in this nation and
13:44 of course when you combined those
13:45 together, you're looking at almost one million
13:48 people per year, wow. Okay cardiovascular
13:51 disease what we call in dying composes,
13:53 heart disease and stroke as well.
13:55 And so as cholesterol numbers go up the risk
13:59 of heart disease also goes up as well,
14:03 there is a direct correlation between the
14:05 two and that's been studied in numerous
14:08 occasions for the last 15, 20 years or so.
14:11 Let's look at our graphic here and let's really,
14:14 this is gonna be an eye opener.
14:16 At the bottom graph here you have the
14:17 cholesterol serum cholesterol number and
14:20 it starts at 140 and goes all the way to 300.
14:24 As you see here that the higher the overall
14:27 cholesterol the greater their heart disease
14:30 deaths from individuals who have heart
14:32 cholesterol numbers. Now at the left corner
14:35 there or left hand side of this graph that
14:38 represents 1000. So, again those individuals
14:42 who have a high cholesterol number,
14:46 then it would be a higher rate of death
14:48 from cardiovascular disease.
14:51 Now information out there in the media
14:54 suggests as of late that one's cholesterol should
14:57 be less than 200. But, again we are saying
15:01 the cholesterol should be less than 180.
15:07 So, when you see that 180 there, the left hand
15:09 side of that, very few people are dying with
15:12 cholesterol or less than 180.
15:14 But, again look at 180 and above.
15:17 There is a great amount of individuals who are
15:19 dying from heart disease and the
15:21 cholesterol is above 180 maybe 180 to 200 that's
15:25 quite a few there. So, again the lower
15:27 the cholesterol overall cholesterol then a less
15:30 rate of going of dying from heart disease.
15:34 So, we should also have our cholesterol below 180.
15:38 Now we even suggest, we even suggest to have
15:41 your overall cholesterol less than 150.
15:45 There is no one on record based on
15:47 Framingham studies there in New England
15:50 of anyone dying of one's cholesterol less
15:54 than 150. Now our cholesterol is in 140s
15:59 so we wanna get that 180 that's the maximum
16:03 but the lower the better, because you see on that
16:05 graph there that even those who have
16:07 cholesterol, let's say 180 to 200 there's still a
16:10 quite amount of death of those individuals
16:13 with that cholesterol number.
16:14 You know isn't that absolutely amazing
16:16 because I remember a time when they would
16:17 say our overall score was supposing 220,
16:20 yeah, oh 220. And then it went down to 200,
16:24 then it went down to 190, now we're saying
16:27 180 but really the lower the better,
16:29 the lower the better. Yeah, which means that
16:31 you can not have no milk, no eggs,
16:32 no cheese or anything in your diet.
16:33 I mean because actually the more foods you eat
16:35 that have cholesterol in them, then that means
16:37 that the more chance you gonna have with
16:39 the higher score. And the lifestyle and
16:41 into next time we meet, what would bring that
16:44 cholesterol down. There's foods in nature,
16:48 three foods in particular, a food
16:50 groups that would simply drop it down
16:52 just like medication, so that's
16:53 the next time we meet. We'll talk about that
16:55 ratio also about the ratio kind of explain to us
16:58 what does that mean by the ratio when
17:01 you talk about cholesterol? Okay let's go to our last
17:04 graphic and this is very profound as well we
17:06 need to understand the cholesterol ratio,
17:08 let's go to our last graphic.
17:09 Alright let's say that I have my cholesterol
17:12 check, now these are of course our fictitious
17:13 numbers are cholesterol I think last checking
17:15 about 140, but just for sake of graphic here
17:20 let's say my cholesterol is 190 overall cholesterol.
17:23 But, honey yours is 220 not at this point here it
17:27 would appear that I'm in better shape than you
17:30 are honey, could my cholesterol is lower
17:33 than your cholesterol? You must be eating
17:35 little bit more, I don't know cheeseburgers,
17:37 I don't know whatever. Okay now so at this
17:39 point here I'm in better shape, however let's go
17:43 to the next graphic here, let's look at the HDL,
17:48 remember now these are the good guys,
17:51 once HDL should be at least 60 or above.
17:55 Wait a minute now my HDL is only 38,
17:59 that's below the level 60 of course.
18:02 But now your HDL honey is 73, now to get
18:08 the ratio you divide cholesterol by the HDL.
18:12 So, therefore my ratio will be 5.0,
18:18 your ratio is 3.0 one's ratio
18:22 should be less than 3.5. So when you look at the
18:27 ratio the overall ratio the HDL and
18:31 cholesterol you're really in a better shape
18:34 because your HDL is very high there
18:37 by your ratio is less than 3.5.
18:42 Well you know Curtis made that graphic up
18:44 and let me just read on and say it for record.
18:46 I don't eat cheeseburgers hello, okay Mr. Eakins.
18:50 Now okay see that for the sake of illustration.
18:52 Okay for illustration, when I heard the word
18:54 cheeseburgers okay. And so let's just kind of
18:57 like a vegan stand point, galaxy cheese, tofutti
18:59 cheese, yeah let's you know let's talk about,
19:01 I had too much not so something
19:03 you know I'm saying? Yeah, they will say,
19:05 well like I see somebody email me say
19:06 girl you still eat cheeseburger, no way.
19:08 I make sure those for fictitious numbers.
19:11 Some people say when you people health
19:12 educators, your cholesterol is
19:14 220 what's going on here. You know what's when
19:16 I turn TV on, right Charley, did they say
19:19 she eat cheeseburgers. Okay moving along quickly,
19:21 because I know it's time, yeah it's time to
19:23 go into the kitchen; it is definitely time to go
19:24 into kitchen. Next time we meet folks we're
19:26 gonna be talking about those foods that will
19:27 simply drop down cholesterol without the
19:30 medication, so let's go to our recipe.
19:32 Alright, well you know once again I know
19:34 you're probably saying now are we gonna cook
19:35 on show and answer is yes now.
19:37 After talking the first level about cholesterol
19:39 and what's going on you know that we are gonna
19:41 have to fix something I tried to fix a food that
19:43 matches the programs. And this particular
19:46 incident I'm gonna be using chicken.
19:48 I know you say, oh it's a cheeseburger, one
19:50 minute now you are saying chicken.
19:51 Well let me tell you, we are doing a "mock
19:53 chicken salad" get your paper and your pencil
19:56 and meet us in the kitchen.