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00:33 WELCOME TO "ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS" HERE AT GOSPEL
00:35 OUTREACH. 00:36 I'M JULIE AND WE'RE SO GLAD THAT YOU HAVE JOINED 00:38 US HERE. 00:39 TODAY, WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING WITH ONE OF OUR 00:41 REGIONAL DIRECTORS HIS NAME IS SHAWN AND HE WORKS 00:44 IN THE CLOSED COUNTRIES OF THE 10/40 WINDOW. 00:47 NOW, SOME OF YOU MIGHT BE NEW TO GOSPEL OUTREACH AND 00:51 WE ARE SHARING THE LOVE OF JESUS IN THE 10/40 WINDOW 00:54 FROM TEN TO FORTY DEGREES NORTH OF THE EQUATOR THAT 00:57 RUNS FROM ALL THE COUNTRIES FROM WEST AFRICA 01:00 ALL THE WAY THROUGH INDIA AND ASIA AND THAT'S THE 01:04 HOME OF BILLIONS OF PEOPLE AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE 01:07 CALLED TO SHARE THE LOVE OF JESUS AND THANK YOU FOR 01:12 PARTNERING WITH US. 01:13 WE THANK YOU FOR BEING A PART OF GOSPEL OUTREACH 01:16 AND WE WELCOME YOU IF YOU ARE NEW. 01:18 SO, I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME SHAWN TO THE 01:20 PROGRAM. 01:21 SHAWN -GREAT OT SEE YOU AND WE'RE JUST LOOKING 01:24 FORWARD TO A CONVERSATION WITH YOU. 01:25 THANK YOU, JULIE. 01:27 YES, IT IS DELIGHTFUL TO BE BACK WITH YOU AGAIN 01:29 NOW. 01:30 I ALWAYS ENJOY THESE CONVERSATIONS. 01:33 WELL, IT IS WONDERFUL TO HAVE YOU HERE AND SHAWN 01:36 WHAT DOES IT MEAN WHEN WE SAY "CLOSED COUNTRY". 01:40 YOU KNOW I SUPPOSE WE CAN THINK ABOUT THOSE IN A 01:44 COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TERMS. 01:45 FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW THOSE OF US WHO TRAVEL 01:48 RECOGNIZE THAT THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT AND 01:50 OTHER GOVERNMENTS PUT OUT ACTUAL TRAVEL WARNINGS 01:54 SOMETIMES AND THERE IS LIKE A DIFFERENT 01:59 DEGRADATION OR DIFFERENT SPECIFICATION OF COUNTRIES 02:03 THAT YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO TRAVEL TO AND THEN THERE 02:06 ARE THOSE COUNTRIES WHERE THEY WARN YOU, YOU KNOW, 02:10 TO CHECK IN WITH YOUR EMBASSY TO REGISTER THERE 02:12 AND THEN THERE ARE THOSE THAT THEY SIMPLY SAY YOU 02:15 KNOW, AS A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES BEING AN 02:17 AMERICAN OR A CITIZEN OF FRANCE WE REALLY RECOMMEND 02:20 OR WE EVEN SAY DON'T TRAVEL TO THESE COUNTRIES. 02:23 AND SO, IF WE JUST THINK OF A BELT AROUND THE EARTH 02:27 KIND OF GOING ACROSS NORTH AFRICA AROUND THROUGH THE 02:29 MIDDLE EAST AND THEN THROUGH YOU KNOW SOUTHEAST 02:33 ASIA THE COUNTRIES THERE, WE CAN RECOGNIZE FROM 02:37 GEOGRAPHY CLASS THAT SOME OF THOSE COUNTRIES 02:40 HISTORICALLY WESTERN NATIONS HAVEN'T FELT 02:45 NECESSARILY VERY FRIENDLY WITH BECAUSE OF THE 02:48 VARIOUS THINGS THAT EITHER ECONOMICALLY OR 02:50 POLITICALLY THAT HAVE HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS. 02:53 OR RELIGIOUSLY. 02:54 OR RELIGIOUSLY AND ANOTHER THING THAT WE CAN CONSIDER 02:58 WHEN WE MENTION RELIGIOUSLY IS THAT SIMPLY 03:01 THE DOMINATE RELIGION IN THESE OTHER COUNTRIES IS 03:07 VERY LARGELY EITHER ISLAM, BUDDHIST, HINDU AND IN 03:13 THOSE COUNTRIES THERE ARE ACTUALLY CERTAIN 03:16 REQUIREMENTS OR GOVERNMENTAL POLICIES THAT 03:19 THE GOVERNMENT HAS THAT DISCOURAGES THE CITIZENS 03:23 FROM CONVERSION TO CHRISTIANITY AND THEN 03:27 THERE ARE ACTUALLY NOT ONLY LAWS AGAINST YOU KNOW 03:31 CONVERSION, THERE CAN ACTUALLY BE RESTRICTIONS 03:35 AND PUNISHMENTS OF THEIR OWN PEOPLE OR OF THE THOSE 03:39 WHO COME TO THE COUNTRY FOR THAT PURPOSE. 03:42 AND IT IS INTERESTING TO THINK ABOUT ALL OF THAT 03:45 BECAUSE SHAWN, AS WESTERNERS AH, TO THINK OF 03:50 ALL OF THOSE RESTRICTIONS WHERE FOR EXAMPLE, IF I 03:55 WANT TO BUY A BIBLE I CAN GO BUY A BIBLE AT WALMART 03:58 AND SO I HAVE THE FREEDOM TO DO THAT BUT IN THESE 04:02 COUNTRIES THAT YOU'RE MENTIONING THAT ARE 04:04 "CLOSED" THAT OPPORTUNITY OF GOING TO A MAJOR STORE 04:08 AND BUYING A BIBLE IS NOT POSSIBLE. 04:12 THAT'S EXACTLY TRUE BUT YOU KNOW, IN TODAY'S WORLD 04:16 FOR THE PERSON WHO IS LED BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD, THAT 04:20 IS NO LONGER AN ISSUE BECAUSE IN THE DIGITAL AGE 04:23 IT'S VERY EASY TO ACCESS ANYTHING THAT A PERSON 04:26 WANTS TO. 04:27 SO, EVEN IN A COUNTRY WHERE THERE IS JAMMING YOU 04:31 KNOW, ELECTRONIC JAMMING BY A GOVERNMENT, AH PEOPLE 04:35 CAN GET AROUND AND THEY CAN DOWNLOAD WHAT THEY 04:38 CHOOSE. 04:39 I REMEMBER FOUR YEARS AGO DEALING WITH A COUNTRY OR 04:42 SOME BELIEVERS AND CHRISTIANS FROM A COUNTRY 04:46 IN CENTRAL ASIA WHEN THEY LEFT THEIR COUNTRY, THEY 04:50 ACTUALLY HAD TO DELETE APPS OFF THEIR PHONES SO 04:53 THAT WHEN THEY WENT TO THE NEIGHBORING COUNTRY THAT 04:57 AS THEY WERE AT THEIR BORDER CONTROL THAT THEIR 05:00 NATIONAL SECURITY WOULDN'T FIND CERTAIN APPS ON THEIR 05:03 PHONES, RELIGIOUS APPS. 05:04 WOW. 05:06 THEY DOWNLOADED THEM AGAIN ONTO THEIR TELEPHONE-THAT 05:09 WAS BIBLES AND OTHER RELIGIOUS PROGRAMS THAT 05:13 THEY WANTED AND SO IT IS VERY EASY AS I TRAVEL 05:18 TODAY MYSELF, I HAVE NEVER HAD MY PHONE REQUESTED. 05:22 GOOD. 05:22 BY A PERSON. 05:23 I'VE BEEN TO ABOUT 80 COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD 05:27 MANY OF THOSE ARE COUNTRIES THAT ONCE AGAIN 05:31 WE CONSIDER MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY ON THE CLOSEST 05:35 OF TIES WITH OTHER NATIONS BUT I'VE NEVER HAD MY 05:40 PHONE CHECKED. 05:41 AND SO, IF I WAS REALLY THOUGHTFUL BECAUSE I DO 05:43 GET COMFORTABLE I WOULD ACTUALLY PROBABLY DELETE A 05:46 COUPLE OF APPS OFF OF MY PHONE. 05:48 SURE. 05:48 JUST FOR PRECAUTION. 05:50 BUT YOU ARE SO RIGHT WHICH LEADS INTO ANOTHER 05:53 QUESTION WHICH I KNOW YOU KNOW IS VERY DEAR TO MY 05:56 HEART WORKING IN DRAMATIZED AUDIO BIBLE 05:58 STORIES IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES THAT ARE USED 06:02 HERE BY OUR GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKERS WITH THE 06:04 BIBLE IN LIVING SOUND BUT THE STORYTELLING ASPECT OF 06:08 THE BIBLE I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE BIBLE IT'S 06:10 STORIES. 06:11 JESUS TOLD STORIES AND IN THESE MANY OF THESE CLOSED 06:16 COUNTRIES STORIES ARE VERY POWERFUL BECAUSE THEY ARE 06:20 VERY AUDITORY LEARNING -THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. 06:24 THEY TELL STORIES FOR GENERATIONS AND THINGS 06:26 LIKE THAT AND HOW IS THAT REALLY PIVOTAL IN SHARING 06:30 THE GOSPEL? 06:31 OH, IT SO MUCH IS SO. 06:34 YOU KNOW, I'VE DISCOVERED AND ONCE AGAIN I'M INTO MY 06:38 50'S NOW, I'VE DISCOVERED OVER SOMETHING LIKE 30 06:42 YEARS OF TRAVELING THAT PEOPLES OF MOST THE 06:47 MAJORITY WORLD THAT BEING PROBABLY CONSIDERED 06:50 DEVELOPING NATIONS TODAY, UM PRIMARILY AH, ARE ORAL 06:56 IN TERMS OF THEIR COMMUNICATION THAT MEANING 07:01 THAT THEY LOVE TO TALK. 07:03 EVERYBODY LOVES TO TALK BUT THEY LOVE TO TALK AND 07:07 RECOUNT THE HISTORY OF THEIR PEOPLE. 07:10 THEY LOVE TO RECOUNT THE STORIES OF LIFE AND THAT 07:15 MEANS THAT AS WE ENGAGE IN CONVERSATION PEOPLE WILL 07:20 USE STORY AS A MEANS OF COMMUNICATION -MEANS OF 07:26 COMMUNICATING WISDOM, COMMUNICATING VALUES, 07:29 BELIEFS AND SO AS YOU SEE JESUS IS TEACHING, HE 07:38 WOULD TELL STORIES IMBEDDED WITHIN THERE WAS 07:41 A DEEP MEANING AND THE PEOPLE HAD TO DISCOVER 07:43 THAT. 07:44 THAT IS STILL A VERY COMMON THING AND SO AS I 07:45 INTERACT IN MANY DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD I HAVE 07:48 TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME LISTENING AND REALLY 07:50 FOCUSING ON WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING BECAUSE IT 07:53 SEEMS LIKE TO ME, FROM MY BACKGROUND THAT THEY ARE 07:56 OFF ON A TANGENT BUT THEY ARE TELLING ME ABOUT THEIR 07:59 NEIGHBOR IN RELATION TO MY ISSUE BECAUSE THEY ARE 08:03 TRYING TO HELP ME SEE MY ISSUE THROUGH WHAT 08:07 HAPPENED TO THEIR NEIGHBOR. 08:09 AND THEY ARE RELATING, YOU KNOW, THAT EXPERIENCE TO 08:13 ME TO OPEN UP MY OWN UNDERSTANDING. 08:16 SO, I HAVE TO LISTEN CAREFULLY TO HEAR THAT AND 08:19 SO THAT'S WHAT WE CAN MEAN BY THE USAGE OF STORY AND 08:23 THEN HOW THAT RELATES TO THE CONVEYANCE OF THE 08:26 GOSPEL WE SEE THAT JUST AS JESUS WENT AROUND TELLING 08:30 STORIES ALL THE TIME, IT WAS A WAY OF BEING ABLE TO 08:36 LEAVE A MESSAGE IN PEOPLE'S MINDS THAT HAD 08:40 LIKE SOME KIND OF CENTRAL FOCUS VERSUS ALL THIS 08:43 BROKEN UP INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, LIKE FACTS AND SO AS 08:48 PEOPLE SHARE THE MESSAGE TODAY OF THE GOSPEL, IT'S 08:51 VERY EASY TO GO AND TO TELL LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, 08:54 JESUS' FAMOUS STORY OF THE TWO BROTHERS. 08:58 WE OFTEN REFER TO IT AS THE STORY OF THE PRODIGAL 09:01 SON WHERE ONE OF THE SONS KIND OF YOU KNOW, 09:05 DISRESPECTED HIS FATHER, TOOK HIS MONEY, WENT OFF 09:08 LIVED A WILD LIFE, REALIZED THAT HE WAS SUCH 09:10 A FOOL AND HE WENT BACK TO HIS FATHER LATER AND OF 09:13 COURSE IN THAT STORY WE SEE THAT WHAT JESUS IS 09:15 ACTUALLY DOING IS CONVEYING THIS WONDERFUL 09:18 PICTURE OF GOD AS A LOVING FATHER WHO GIVES 09:22 EVERYTHING TO HIS SON SO MUCH SO THAT HE IS 09:26 EMBARRASSED BEFORE THE COMMUNITY. 09:28 HE IS SHAMED BEFORE THE COMMUNITY BUT BECAUSE OF 09:31 HIS SON HE DOES THAT AND AT THE SAME TIME THERE HE 09:34 IS WAITING FOR HIS SON FOR YEARS TO FINALLY COME BACK 09:37 TO HIM AND YOU KNOW, WITHIN THIS KIND OF STORY 09:42 YOU CAN IN A MATTER OF FIVE MINUTES SHARE THIS 09:47 BEAUTIFUL MESSAGE OF GOD THAT YOU CAN TELL TO A 09:50 PERSON IN LIBYA, IN INDIA, IN CANADA AND EVERYBODY, 09:55 EVERY INDIVIDUAL IS LEFT CONSIDERING WOW, THAT WAS 09:58 A REALLY AMAZING FATHER TO DEAL WITH HIS SON THAT 10:02 WAY. 10:03 YOU KNOW. 10:04 AND SO, IT DOESN'T MATTER REALLY WHAT PART OF THE 10:06 WORLD THAT YOU ARE IN THAT YOU CAN HEAR THE STORY AND 10:08 IT STICKS WITH YOU AND IT STICKS WITH YOU NOT JUST 10:11 FOR AN HOUR BUT PROBABLY FOR AT LEAST THE DAY AND 10:14 IF YOU HEAR SOMETHING SIMILAR IT IS PROBABLY 10:16 GOING TO COME BACK AGAIN IN THE MONTHS OR YEARS 10:19 DOWN THE ROAD. 10:20 ABSOLUTELY AND THAT IS THE POWER OF THAT BECAUSE IF 10:24 JESUS HAD SAID YOU NEED TO RESPECT YOU FATHER AND YOU 10:28 NEED TO DO THIS, LIKE YOU SAID, A LIST OF THE FACTS 10:31 THAT JUST GETS LOST BUT AS YOU WERE SHARING THAT, IT 10:35 BROUGHT TO MIND I WAS IN A CLOSED COUNTRY. 10:38 I WAS WITH A CHRISTIAN WOMAN AND SHE TALKED ABOUT 10:41 PEACE WITH A BUSINESS MAN AND SHE DIDN'T SAY, OH, 10:44 YOU KNOW YOU NEED TO HAVE PEACE AND JESUS GIVES YOU 10:47 PEACE OR WHATEVER. 10:48 SHE LAUNCHED IN TO -OH, YOU'RE A VERY BUSY MAN AND 10:51 DO YOU HAVE ANY DAY OF REST THAT YOU TAKE? 10:55 AND PEACE IS SO IMPORTANT AND SHE GAVE THIS MAN A 10:58 WHOLE STUDY FROM THE LORD BUT IT WAS IN A STORY WAY 11:03 AND IT WAS PUTTING IT ON TO HIM AND JESUS DID THAT 11:08 SO MUCH OF YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN YOUR LIFE 11:11 AND BRINGING IT AROUND. 11:13 AND YOU KNOW, AS YOU WERE SAYING THAT I'M WONDERING 11:15 TOO WITH STORIES BEING SO POWERFUL IN MANY OF THESE 11:18 COUNTRIES A LOT OF THE PEOPLE ARE ILLITERATE, 11:21 WERE ILLITERATE COULDN'T WRITE AND ALL OF THAT SO 11:23 THAT'S WHERE TELLING THE STORY AH, IS SO IMPORTANT. 11:27 AND JULIE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'VE FOUND IS LIKE BEING 11:30 IN AMERICA I FIND THAT WHEN I SIT DOWN TO DINNER 11:33 AFTER TEN OR 15 MINUTES I WANT TO GET UP. 11:36 I WANT TO GO DO SOMETHING ELSE. 11:38 WE DON'T SIT AROUND TYPICALLY FOR A LONG TIME 11:40 TOGETHER ENGAGING WITH ONE ANOTHER BUT YOU KNOW I 11:45 RECENTLY JUST CAME BACK FROM A SIX WEEK TRIP AND 11:49 WHAT I'M LEFT WITH IS A LOT OF MEMORIES IN MY MIND 11:53 OF HOW LONG I SAT IN A RESTAURANT WITH SOMEBODY. 11:57 PROBABLY THE SHORTEST MEAL WAS AN HOUR AND A HALF. 12:00 IT WAS PROBABLY SOMETHING LIKE TWO AND A HALF HOURS 12:03 AND WHAT DID WE DO? 12:05 WE WENT THROUGH ALL KINDS OF ISSUES OF OUR LIFE, 12:09 WALKING THROUGH THOSE ISSUES, THOSE STORIES. 12:12 THE KIDS, YOU KNOW, PLAYING IN THE RESTAURANT. 12:15 MOM RUNNING AFTER THE KIDS, BRINGING THEM BACK 12:18 AND THEN A LOT OF TIMES BIBLE STORIES CAME OUT AND 12:21 WE DISCUSSED THEM AND THEY WERE UP THERE IN THE AIR. 12:29 THERE WAS NO CONTROVERSY ABOUT IT. 12:31 THESE WEREN'T PEOPLE WHO WERE CHRISTIAN. 12:34 WE READILY TALKED ABOUT JESUS BECAUSE AND I WAS IN 12:40 MUSLIM NATIONS BECAUSE JESUS IS CONSIDERED, YOU 12:43 KNOW, THE GREAT PROPHET. 12:46 RIGHT. 12:47 PEOPLE READILY LOVE TO DISCUSS HIM. 12:49 ANOTHER ASPECT IS BECAUSE MUSLIMS ARE SO DESIROUS OF 12:56 THE DAY OF JUDGMENT COMING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE 12:59 AS MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DAY OF JUDGMENT AND 13:02 TOWARDS THE RE-ESTABLISHMENT OF GOD'S 13:05 KINGDOM THAT THEY ALSO WANT TO HEAR EVERY BIT OF 13:10 WISDOM THAT THEY CAN. 13:12 AND SO, A MUSLIM WHO'S VERY MUCH LIKE OPEN AND 13:17 THAT'S NOT OF COURSE EVERY PERSON BUT IT SEEMS LIKE 13:20 JUST ABOUT EVERY PERSON THAT I RUN INTO THAT IS A 13:23 MUSLIM VERY INTERESTED AND ALWAYS LEARNING 13:26 SPIRITUALLY. 13:27 WHATEVER THAT THEY CAN BRING INTO THEM THAT IS 13:29 GOING TO BRING THEM CLOSER TO GOD THEY WANT TO HEAR. 13:32 AND THAT'S THE CONNECTION. 13:34 YES. 13:35 THAT'S THE CONNECTION. 13:36 WELL, SHAWN THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND WE WANT TO 13:39 SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING A PART OF GOSPEL OUTREACH AS 13:42 WE ARE LEARNING MORE ABOUT HOW THE LORD IS WORKING IN 13:45 ALL THESE COUNTRIES IN THE 10/40 WINDOW. 13:48 WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE WAYS THAT 13:50 YOU CONNECT WITH US WHETHER THAT IS ON SOCIAL 13:52 MEDIA, ON YOUTUBE, ON ALL THESE DIFFERENT PLATFORMS 13:56 THAT WE HAVE. 13:57 WE ALSO HAVE A NEWSLETTER AND WE WOULD LOVE TO SHARE 14:00 THAT WITH YOU. 14:01 AGAIN, ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS AND IT IS FREE TO 14:03 YOU JUST LET US KNOW THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO RECEIVE 14:06 IT. 14:06 IT HAS GREAT STORIES IN IT. 14:08 THINGS YOU CAN SHARE WITH OTHERS. 14:09 IT SHARES WITH YOU ALL THE DIFFERENT STATIONS WHERE 14:12 "ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS" IS BROADCAST AND WE WANT 14:15 TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING A PART OF THE GOSPEL 14:18 OUTREACH FAMILY. 14:19 SO, WE ARE CHATTING HERE WITH SHAWN. 14:21 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE CLOSED COUNTRIES IN THE 14:24 10/40 WINDOW WHERE GOSPEL OUTREACH IS SHARING AND 14:28 YOU WERE SHARING ABOUT FOR EXAMPLE, WITH MUSLIMS THAT 14:31 THEY ARE ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN TALKING 14:33 ABOUT JESUS. 14:35 OH YES, VERY MUCH SO AND YOU KNOW ACTUALLY AS WE 14:37 USE THE TERM CLOSED COUNTRIES IT IS 14:39 INTERESTING THAT WE USE THAT TERM WHEN TODAY MANY 14:43 OF THESE COUNTRIES ARE MORE OPEN THAN THEY HAVE 14:45 EVER BEEN. 14:46 I'M SAYING THEY ARE MORE OPEN TO THE GOSPEL. 14:49 THEY ARE MUCH MORE OPEN TO HEARING ABOUT JESUS THAN 14:52 EVER BEFORE. 14:53 GOOD. 14:54 PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, THAT HAS TO DO WITH A LOT OF 14:58 DIFFERENT REASONS. 14:59 ONE IS, SEEMS LIKE THE ROCKS ARE CRYING OUT. 15:01 WE KNOW, MANY OF US KNOW AND HAVE HEARD THAT JESUS 15:05 HIMSELF HAS APPEARED TO MANY PEOPLE. 15:09 WE ALSO HEAR ABOUT JESUS COMING IN DREAMS AND 15:13 VISIONS TO PEOPLE BUT YOU KNOW, A REALLY OBVIOUS 15:16 THING IS THAT TODAY THERE ARE MILLIONS OF YOUNG 15:19 PEOPLE THAT ARE TRAVELING GOING TO DIFFERENT PARTS 15:23 OF THE WORLD TO UNIVERISITY, THEY ARE 15:26 INTERACTING WITH OTHER PEOPLES. 15:28 THEY ARE -THEY HAVE A MORE OPEN MIND THAN EVER 15:32 BEFORE. 15:33 THEN WE HAVE ALL THE SOCIAL MEDIA WHICH IS 15:37 LINKING TOGETHER HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE OF 15:40 THE WORLD SO THAT WE ARE COMMUNICATING AS FRIENDS 15:43 WITH PEOPLES ALL OVER AND THIS NATURALLY JUST OPENS 15:47 PEOPLE UP TO HEAR AND TO LISTEN TO THEIR FRIENDS. 15:52 AND OUT OF ALL OF THESE RELATIONSHIPS UH, PEOPLE 15:57 IN CLOSED COUNTRIES ARE BEING PUSHED TO THE EDGE 16:01 OF LISTENING. 16:02 AH, VARIOUS THINGS ARE PROMPTING THEM AND OUT OF 16:07 THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, WE OFTEN TIMES SAY 16:10 THAT IT TAKES I DON'T KNOW FOUR OR FIVE, SIX TIMES 16:13 TILL A PERSON HEARS A MESSAGE UNTIL THEY 16:15 ACTUALLY HEAR IT AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IS PEOPLE 16:18 ARE HEARING THE CHRISTIAN MESSAGE OR PART OF IT TIME 16:22 AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN. 16:24 IN ALL THESE DIFFERENT WAYS. 16:25 ALL THESE WAYS THEY ARE ABLE TO ACTUALLY MAYBE 16:30 OPEN AND ENGAGE WITH THAT AND SO THAT NOW MORE THAN 16:35 EVER IS PROVIDING THE SPRINGBOARD FOR PEOPLE TO 16:39 ACTUALLY ENGAGE AND TO WANT TO KNOW. 16:42 A RECENT TRIP THAT I WAS ON IT SEEMED LIKE JUST 16:46 ABOUT HALF THE PEOPLE THAT I INTERACTED WITH WE HAD 16:50 CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE RELIGIOUS CONVERSATIONS 16:54 AND THEY ARE VERY FREE AND EASY TO BE IN. 16:57 THERE WAS NO CONFLICT AND MUCH OF THAT COMES FROM 17:01 HOW I COMMUNICATE. 17:03 YES. 17:04 TERMINOLOGY THAT I USE SO THAT I'M NOT USING 17:07 CHRISTIANESE. 17:08 UH HUH. 17:10 I REFER TO JESUS I MIGHT JUST USE YOU KNOW WHATEVER 17:16 COUNTRY I'M IN, I WOULD USE THE NATIONAL WORD FOR 17:20 THAT WHATEVER THE TRANSLATION IS. 17:22 RIGHT. 17:23 IN ARABIC OR IN PERSIAN OR WHATEVER SO THAT I'M 17:26 CALLING JESUS ISA. 17:27 A LOT OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS JUST AS FRENCH 17:32 PERSON IS SPEAKING TO ME, YOU KNOW, WANTS TO HEAR ME 17:36 SAYING, SI VIU PLAY. 17:37 ITS BEING GRACIOUS AND IT IS HAVING AN UNDERSTANDING 17:43 AND A KNOWLEDGE. 17:44 I'M A FIRM BELIEVER WHEN YOU GO TO VISIT ANOTHER 17:46 COUNTRY, ANOTHER PLACE, WHEREVER, YOU ARE A GUEST 17:49 THERE AND IT IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN MORE 17:53 ABOUT THOSE PLACES AND NOT ASSUME THAT YES, THEY ALL 17:56 SPEAK YOUR LANGUAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 17:57 AND I AM IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT WITH YOU ON 18:00 THAT. 18:01 VERY IMPORTANT. 18:02 ANOTHER THING THAT IS HAPPENING TODAY IS YOU 18:04 RECOGNIZE ANYBODY THAT WATCHES THE NEWS 18:07 RECOGNIZES THAT WE HAVE A GREAT HUMANITARIAN CRISIS 18:10 IN THE WORLD. 18:11 THERE ARE SO MANY REFUGEES, SYRIA THAT ARE 18:15 LIVING IN TURKEY; ARABIANS THAT ARE LIVING IN TURKEY. 18:18 YOU KNOW PEOPLE FROM LIBYA THAT ARE MOVING UP INTO 18:21 EUROPE. 18:22 PEOPLES ARE ON THE MOVE EVERYWHERE AND AS PEOPLE 18:24 ARE ON THE MOVE THEY ARE CONFRONTED WITH THINKING 18:30 DIFFERENTLY. 18:31 THEY HAVE TO BECAUSE THEY ARE CONFRONTED WITH A NEW 18:34 WAY OF LIFE BEFORE THEM AND THEY ARE IN A STATE OF 18:40 DIS EASE AND OFTEN TIMES IN THESE KIND OF 18:44 SITUATIONS THEY ARE NEEDY. 18:46 AND YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY STEPS INTO THEIR LIFE THAT 18:50 PROVIDES SOME KIND OF PEACE THAT PROVIDES SOME 18:53 KIND OF SECURITY AND IT IS IN THESE KIND OF 18:58 SITUATIONS TODAY THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY 19:00 HEARING THE GOSPEL. 19:01 SO, YES ONE OF THE COUNTRIES THAT I WAS JUST 19:07 IN HAS A VERY LARGE POPULATION AND I'M NOT 19:12 BEING SPECIFIC, THEY HAVE A VERY LARGE POPULATION OF 19:16 REFUGEES FROM A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT COUNTRIES AND WE 19:19 FOUND THAT THE HOUSES OF THESE PEOPLE WHO COME FROM 19:23 STRICT ISLAMIC NATIONS ARE EMBRACING JESUS. 19:28 AND THEY ARE EMBRACING JESUS FOR THE REASONS THAT 19:31 WE SAY. 19:32 HERE THEY ARE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY, THEY ARE NO 19:34 LONGER UNDER STRICT CONTROL. 19:37 THEY CAN MAKE OTHER CHOICES. 19:39 THEY CAN ENGAGE WITH PEOPLE AND TALK ABOUT WHAT 19:42 THEY WANT TO FREELY. 19:43 THEY DON'T HAVE THE RISK OF GOING TO PRISON OR 19:47 OTHER REPERCUSSIONS ECONOMICALLY OR YOU KNOW, 19:51 THE STRESSES OF FAMILY AND OF COMMUNITY THAT RESTRICT 19:56 THEM FROM THINKING IN NEW WAYS AND SO THERE IS A 20:00 BURGEONING POPULATION ACTUALLY OF PEOPLE THAT 20:05 COME FROM BUDDHIST, HINDU, MUSLIM, ATHEIST 20:08 BACKGROUNDS THAT AH, ARE ACTUALLY HEARING THE 20:12 MESSAGE OF CHRIST AND THAT ARE EMBRACING IT. 20:15 ISN'T THAT JUST I WANT TO USE THE WORD FANTASTIC 20:19 BECAUSE AS YOU WERE SHARING ALL OF THAT THE 20:21 IMAGES WENT THROUGH MY MIND. 20:23 I RECENTLY SAW SOMETHING ONLINE OR THE NEWS ABOUT 20:27 ONE OF THE REFUGEE CAMPS AND IT WAS FLOODED AND 20:31 HERE THIS HOUSE IS -THIS LEAN TO, WHATEVER IT WAS, 20:34 IS FLOODED AND SO AS ALL OF THAT WENT THROUGH YET 20:37 THE OTHER THING THAT CAME THROUGH MY MIND IS THE 20:39 HOPE AND DESPITE ALL OF THIS, WE HAVE THE HOPE OF 20:43 JESUS. 20:44 IT IS ALL THROUGHOUT THE BIBLE AND HERE DESPITE 20:47 WHAT THESE DEAR PEOPLE ARE HAVING TO GO THROUGH THAT 20:49 THEY ARE FINDING HOPE. 20:51 YES, AND JULIE, YOU KNOW AS YOU MENTION CAMPS LIKE 20:55 THAT I ENGAGE WITH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT 20:57 ORGANIZATIONS LIKE UNDERGROUND HOUSE CHURCH 21:01 AND HUMANITARIAN AID ORGANIZATIONS ETC. THAT 21:04 ARE WORKING ON BEHALF OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN CRISIS 21:10 SITUATIONS AND I CAN SAY THAT THERE ARE WHAT WE 21:14 WOULD MAYBE CALL HOUSE CHURCHES IN THE MOST 21:18 DIFFICULT SITUATIONS ON EARTH. 21:21 WHETHER YOU ARE IN A REFUGEE CAMP, WHETHER YOU 21:24 ARE IN A VERY STRICT CERTAINLY CONTROLLED UM, 21:30 COUNTRY, YOU KNOW, POLITICALLY, RELIGIOUSLY, 21:33 THERE ARE HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF HOUSE 21:37 CHURCHES THAT ARE MEETING AND THEY ARE MEETING OVER 21:40 THE SCRIPTURES. 21:41 THEY ARE MEETING OVER THE BIBLE. 21:42 THEY ARE USING BIBLES ON THEIR PHONE. 21:45 PEOPLE ARE MEMORIZING THE BIBLE AND THEY ARE 21:49 STUDYING THE SCRIPTURES AND AS WE SAY THEY ARE 21:52 STUDYING THE SCRIPTURES THEY ARE NOT DOING AS MANY 21:55 PEOPLE IN NORTH AMERICA THINK THAT THEY HAVE A 21:57 TRACT IN THEIR HAND AND THEY ARE GOING THROUGH 21:59 CERTAIN TEXTS. 22:01 NO, ACTUALLY WHAT PEOPLE ARE DOING IS THAT THEY ARE 22:03 OPENING THE BIBLE, THEY ARE READING A PORTION OF 22:06 IT AND THEY DISCUSSING IT AND THEY ARE SAYING WHAT 22:08 CAN WE LEARN FROM THIS. 22:10 WHAT CAN WE LEARN FROM THE PROPHET ISAIAH? 22:12 WHAT CAN WE LEARN FROM THE PROPHET JEREMIAH AS WE 22:15 READ ABOUT YOU KNOW, WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE NATION 22:17 OF ISRAEL THERE AND THEN NOT ONLY WAS THAT THEIR 22:22 EXPERIENCE, HOW DOES YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED TO 22:25 THEM APPLY TO MY LIFE. 22:27 YES. 22:28 RELATE TO ME? 22:30 WELL, I'M GOING TO CIRCLE BACK AROUND SO THAT AGAIN 22:33 HAS TO DO WITH THE AUDITORY, THE STORY 22:35 TELLING BECAUSE I CAN READ SOMETHING IN MY BIBLE AND 22:39 READ IT, YOU KNOW, I'M READING IT TO MYSELF AND 22:41 EVERYTHING BUT THEN WHEN I THEN READ IT OUT LOUD, 22:45 WOW, THAT'S OFTEN TIMES WHERE IT IS EVEN MORE 22:48 POWERFUL TO READ IT AND GO WOW, I MISSED THAT. 22:52 YES. 22:53 YOU KNOW, I MISSED THAT BY JUST READING IT TO MYSELF. 22:56 YES, JULIE SINCE YOU MENTION THAT I'M VERY 22:59 FAMILIAR WITH THE BIBLE IN LIVING SOUND AND MANY 23:02 PEOPLE ARE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WE CALL GODPODS. 23:05 THEY ARE KIND OF RECORDING DEVICES WHERE PEOPLE, 23:09 ORGANIZATIONS WILL RECORD THE BIBLE ON IT AND YES, 23:13 I'VE RUN INTO PEOPLE IN VARIOUS PARTS OF THE WORLD 23:16 WITH THOSE. 23:18 GRANTED THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF THOSE, THOUSANDS OF 23:20 THOSE AROUND THE WORLD THAT PEOPLE ARE LISTENING 23:23 TO AND THE THING THAT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT 23:25 BIBLE APPS TODAY, IS THAT BIBLE APPS HAVE A PLAY 23:32 OPTION IN MANY DIFFERENT LANGUAGES AND SO PEOPLE 23:35 LISTEN TO THE BIBLE OFF THEIR PHONES AND SO YOU'LL 23:39 SEE IT EVERYWHERE. 23:40 YOU COULD BE SITTING ON A PLANE FLYING INTO SAUDI 23:44 ARABIA AND A PERSON'S GOT THEIR HEADPHONES ON AND 23:47 THEY ARE LISTENING TO THE BOOK OF ISAIAH. 23:50 WELL, AND THAT GOES RIGHT INTO SOMETHING I'LL SHARE 23:53 WITH THE VIEWERS RIGHT NOW. 23:54 SEE, THIS IS HOW WE ARE HERE ON THE SET OF OUR 23:58 ZOOM SET HERE ON "ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS". 23:59 I'M LISTENING TO SHAWN RIGHT HERE IN MY EARBUD 24:03 AND SEE YOU DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT I HAD IT IN MY 24:07 EAR. 24:08 YES. 24:09 PERFECT EXAMPLE. 24:10 EXACTLY WE FIND THAT ALL OVER THE WORLD AND I'VE 24:11 FOUND COUNTLESS TIMES WHERE AS I'M SITTING 24:16 TALKING WITH PEOPLE, THESE ARE PEOPLE NOT OF A 24:19 CHRISTIAN BACKGROUND THEY WILL TELL ME PART OF A 24:23 BIBLE STORY AT -THEY'LL BEGIN TELLING PART OF A 24:26 BIBLE STORY AND I'LL RECOGNIZE IT AND I'LL TRY 24:30 TO LISTEN TO SEE WHAT THAT IS BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE 24:33 STORY MAY BE CONFUSED AND THEN I DO WHAT I CAN IN A 24:38 HUMBLE WAY TO TRY TO CLARIFY THE STORY FOR THEM 24:42 IF I KNOW THE STORY WELL ENOUGH MYSELF. 24:46 SURE. 24:47 AND IT'S NOT THAT IF I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT THAT 24:48 I'LL GOOGLE IT, THEN I'LL GO TO SCRIPTURE AND I'LL 24:51 TELL IT YOU KNOW, "CORRECTLY" TO THEM BY 24:55 ACTUALLY READING IT OUT OF THE SCRIPTURE AS I'M 24:58 TALKING. 24:59 AS I SIT IN A RESTAURANT OR ON A PLANE OR WHEREVER 25:02 THAT I AM. 25:03 I LOVE THIS. 25:04 I LOVE THIS. 25:05 SO, THERE IS ACTUALLY A SCRIPTURE IN ROMANS THAT 25:09 WE WERE SHARING AND YOU SAID THAT IT WAS ROMANS 25:13 15:20 WHICH I'LL READ HERE. 25:16 "IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY AMBITION TO PREACH THE 25:18 GOSPEL WHERE CHRIST WAS NOT KNOWN SO THAT I WOULD 25:22 NOT BE BUILDING ON SOMEONE ELSE'S FOUNDATION." 25:26 YOU KNOW, THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT TEXT TO ME 25:29 BECAUSE ITS KIND OF LIKE BEEN A MOTTO FOR MY OWN 25:33 LIFE. 25:34 NOT THINKING OF MY OWN SELF AS YOU WERE READING 25:36 THAT, I WAS THINKING OF A DEAR FRIEND OF MINE HE'S A 25:40 MAN WHO BECAME -HE ACTUALLY BECAME A 25:44 CHRISTIAN ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO. 25:47 HE LIVES IN A PART OF THE FORMER SOVIET UNION IN A 25:51 COUNTRY THAT THINKS OF THEMSELVES AS BEING 25:54 ISLAMIC AND HE BECAME A CHRISTIAN AND OUT OF-HE 26:00 AND HIS WIFE BOTH DID, OUT OF THAT THEY WERE 26:04 PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED, UH, PEOPLE TRIED TO KILL THEM 26:08 YOU KNOW. 26:09 YOU KNOW, RUNNING INTO THEM WITH A CAR KIND OF 26:12 THING. 26:13 SO, AT ANY RATE THEY ARE VERY ALIVE AND HEALTHY 26:15 TODAY. 26:16 WOW. 26:17 PART OF THE COUNTRY WHERE IT'S PROBABLY THE LARGEST 26:20 OF SEVEN STATES IN THE COUNTRY AND HE IS ONE OF 26:25 ABOUT 200 CHRISTIANS IN THAT ENTIRE STATE AND I 26:33 JUST WENT AND I SPENT A WEEK WITH THEM AND MY 26:36 PURPOSE IN DOING SO WAS SO THAT AS A CHRISTIAN 26:39 BROTHER I COULD GO AND ENCOURAGE THEIR FAMILY 26:41 WITH MY PRESENCE WITH THEM. 26:44 THEN OF COURSE, I DO THE SAME THING THROUGH SOCIAL 26:47 MEDIA IN THE PART OF THE YEAR THAT I'M NOT THERE. 26:52 AND THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE AS PEOPLE 26:55 FROM FREE COUNTRIES WHETHER YOUR FROM FRANCE, 26:59 OR ENGLAND OR AUSTRALIA WHEREVER YOU MAY BE WHERE 27:03 YOU ARE IN A COUNTRY WHERE YOU CAN DO AND BELIEVE AS 27:06 YOU PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS, IF YOU HAVE 27:10 AQUAINTENCES IN PARTS OF THE WORLD THAT YOU KNOW 27:13 ARE SOMEWHAT RESTRICTED, I'D REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU 27:17 TO BE A LISTENING VOICE. 27:19 BE A GREAT SUPPORTER BECAUSE THAT'S A PART THAT 27:25 I PLAY IN MANY PEOPLE'S LIVES IN THIS PERSON THAT 27:27 I MENTIONED RIGHT NOW, UM I'M NOT GOING TO MENTION 27:30 HIS NAME-I PRAY FOR THEM EVERY WEEK. 27:33 I FAST AND PRAY WITH MY WIFE THAT GOD WOULD BE A 27:36 HEDGE AROUND THEM, THAT GOD WOULD PROTECT THEIR 27:40 NEIGHBORS, YES, THAT THEY WOULD LOVE THEIR CHILDREN 27:43 BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY ARE VERY MUCH ON THE FRONT 27:45 LINE. 27:46 THEY'VE BEEN ABUSED AND THEY ARE IN AN ENVIRONMENT 27:49 THAT IS NOT SAFE AND SECURE AND WE ARE MEANT TO 27:52 BE THEIR ARMY BEHIND THEM. 27:56 ABSOLUTELY. 27:57 WHAT YOU AS A GOSPEL OUTREACH LISTENER AND 28:00 SUPPORTER CAN DO IS IF YOU ARE IN COMMUNICATION WITH 28:03 PEOPLE LIKE THIS, THIS IS A GREAT WAY THAT YOU CAN 28:06 SUPPORT THEM AND I REALLY ENCOURAGE IT. 28:09 I LIKE IT. 28:09 I LIKE IT. 28:10 SHAWN THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US. 28:12 YOU'VE CHALLENGED US AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO 28:27 MUCH. |
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