Adventures in Missions

Cambodian History & The Christian Work

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00:00 WELCOME TO "ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS".
00:01 I'M JULIE SANDERS-KEYMER AND IT IS A TOUR OF
00:03 COUNTRIES HERE AS WE GIVE REPORTS IN THE 10/40
00:07 WINDOW, THAT LARGE EXPANSE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE
00:12 GLO BE FROM WHERE WE ARE RECORDING HERE TODAY.
00:16 IT'S FROM WEST AFRICA AND ALL THE WAY THROUGH SO
00:20 MANY COUNTRIES AND WE'RE GOING TO BE HIGHLIGHTING A
00:25 COUPLE OF COUNTRIES ON THE EASTERN PART OF THIS 10/40
00:29 WINDOW AND I WANT TO WELCOME GARY WAGNER TO
00:33 "ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS".
00:34 WELCOME, GARY.
00:35 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:36 NICE TO BE HERE.
00:39 IT IS GREAT TO HAVE YOU AND GARY, WE'RE EXCITED
00:54 THAT YOU ARE PARTNERING HERE WITH GOSPEL OUTREACH
01:06 AND THAT YOU ARE A NEW REGIONAL DIRECTOR AND
01:09 SHARE WITH OUR VIEWERS THE TERRITORY THAT YOU ARE
01:12 WORKING IN.
01:13 I'M SERVING IN CAMBODIA AND VIETNAM.
01:16 WONDERFUL, AND KEITH HEINRICH HAS HAD THAT
01:19 TERRITORY PREVIOUSLY AND YOU ARE TAKING THE REINS
01:22 NOW AND IT IS A SPECIAL PLACE IN YOUR HEART AS
01:25 WELL AND WHY IS THAT?
01:27 I SERVED IN CAMBODIA IN 1973 AND 74 AND IN OUR
01:33 ENGLISH LANGUAGE SCHOOL THERE AND DURING THAT
01:36 PERIOD OF TIME I WAS EVACUATED TO SAIGON TO
01:40 WORK A LITTLE BIT IN THE AH, THE HOSPITAL IN
01:43 SAIGON.
01:45 WOW!
01:46 WHAT AN INTERESTING TIME FOR YOU TO BE THERE.
01:47 WERE YOU SERVING AS A STUDENT MISSIONARY?
01:49 YES, I WAS A STUDENT MISSIONARY AND IT WAS
01:51 DURING THE TIME OF THE BUILDUP OF POL POT AND THE
01:54 KHMER ROUGE.
01:55 WOW, WHAT AN INTERESTING TIME.
01:58 SO, NOW ALL THESE YEARS LATER YOU ARE NOW WORKING
02:01 WITH GOSPEL OUTREACH AND GIVE US A LITTLE OF YOUR
02:04 BACKGROUND, GARY.
02:05 I'M A RETIRED PASTOR.
02:08 I'VE SERVED IN THE MISSION FIELD-EIGHT DIFFERENT
02:11 COUNTRIES AND IN QUITE A FEW PLACES HERE IN NORTH
02:16 AMERICA AS WELL.
02:17 AND I'MJUST HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO SERVE WITH GOSPEL
02:22 OUTREACH.
02:23 IT GIVES ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO STAY IN THE WORK AND TO
02:27 ENJOY WATCHING GOD WORKING.
02:28 WELL, FANTASTIC.
02:29 SO, WHAT OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE YOU SERVED IN?
02:31 I SERVED IN KOREA, THAILAND, IN THE MARSHALL
02:35 ISLANDS, THE TRUK ISLANDS AND CONGO.
02:38 OH WOW!
02:39 YOU'VE BEEN KIND OF ALL OVER THE PLACE.
02:41 WELL, PRAISE THE LORD.
02:42 WELL, GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY HERE TODAY.
02:45 YOU ARE GOING TO SHARE WITH US A LITTLE BIT OF
02:47 THE WORK IN THIS PART OF THE WORLD AND GIVE US SOME
02:50 DATES AND SOME INFORMATION.
02:52 I WAS FASCINATED WHEN I WAS THERE TO LEARN HOW GOD
02:56 HAD BEEN LEADING TO TRY TO GET THE WORK ESTABLISHED
03:00 IN THE COUNTRY OF CAMBODIA BECAUSE WHEN I ARRIVED
03:04 THERE WAS ONE BAPTIZED MEMBER IN THE COUNTRY AND
03:07 HE HAD BEEN BAPTIZED THE MONTH BEFORE.
03:09 THAT'S IN THE 70'S?
03:10 THAT'S IN '73 AND SO IT SEEMED AS THOUGH NOT MUCH
03:15 HAD BEEN HAPPENING BUT IN REALITY, THERE IS A LOT
03:17 THAT HAD BEEN GOING ON AND IT STARTED BACK IN 1921
03:23 WHEN PASTOR TAN KUE UW WAS SENT INTO PHNOM PENH THE
03:28 CAPITOL OF CAMBODIA TO BE THE FIRST LITERATURE
03:31 EVANGELIST AND THINGS WERE VERY DIFFICULT.
03:35 HE FOUND A LOT OF OPPOSITION AND HE WASN'T
03:40 ABLE TO STAY VERY LONG.
03:42 IN 1921?
03:43 YES.
03:44 1921, WOW.
03:45 SO, THE CHURCH REALLY IN A WAY DISAPPEARED AFTER HIS
03:50 DEPARTURE AND IT WASN'T UNTIL THEN IN 1938 THAT
03:55 ANOTHER ATTEMPT WAS MADE.
03:58 FRED PICKETT AND RANKIN WENTLAND APPLIED TO BE
04:02 ABLE TO GO TO CAMBODIA TO SERVE AND THEY WERE NOT
04:08 GREETED WARMLY BUT WERE ABLE TO START WORKING
04:13 ALONG THE BORDER.
04:14 BASICALLY, THEY WERE INSIDE VIETNAM TRYING TO
04:15 WORK IN CAMBODIA AND THAT UH, WAS ALSO VERY
04:17 DIFFICULT BECAUSE PASTOR PICKETT IN THE YEAR THAT
04:28 HE ARRIVED THERE BECAME ILL AND DIED.
04:30 OH DEAR.
04:31 AND THEN PASTOR WENTLAND WAS FORCED OUT OF THE
04:37 COUNTRY IN 1940 AND HE WENT TO VIETNAM TO SERVE
04:41 THERE.
04:41 SO, FORCED OUT BECAUSE OF WHY?
04:42 WAS BECAUSE OF POLITICAL SITUATION OR BEING A
04:43 BUDDHIST COUNTRY?
04:44 DO YOU KNOW, GARY?
04:45 PROBABLY PART OF BOTH, BUT THE SECOND WORLD WAR WAS
04:46 BREWING.
04:47 THAT WAS MY NEXT-THAT WAS MY THIRD QUESTION AND SO
04:48 HE ACTUALLY WORKED FOR TEN YEARS IN VIETNAM WITHOUT
04:49 ANY CONTACT WITH THE CHURCH BECAUSE THEY
04:51 COULDN'T GET A HOLD OF HIM AND HE JUST CONTINUED
05:06 WORKING THERE.
05:09 WELL, AND THIS IS INTERESING BECAUSE YOU ARE
05:13 TALKING ABOUT THESE DATES AND I'M THINKING ABOUT
05:15 ABRAM LARUE WHO WENT TO HONG KONG AND SO THINGS
05:19 PROGRESSED THERE AND THEN IT IS INTERESTING TO HEAR
05:22 THESE GAPS OF WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE WORK IN
05:25 CAMBODIA AND VIETNAM.
05:26 YES.
05:27 UH, THEN IN 1938 AGAIN ANOTHER PASTOR ROBERT BENZ
05:35 AND HIS WIFE MARTHA WERE SENT IN AND THEY HAD
05:40 DIFFICULTIES AS WELL BUT MARTHA, HIS WIFE, ALSO GOT
05:45 ILL IN THE FIRST YEAR SHE WAS THERE AND SHE PASSED
05:48 AWAY.
05:49 OH DEAR!
05:50 AND THEY HAD A DAUGHTER, UH HUH, AND HER LAST WORDS
05:53 WERE "I'M HAPPY TO GIVE MY LIFE FOR THE LORD JESUS
05:58 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SERVE WITH MY FAMILY WHO ARE IN
06:02 THIS COUNTRY".
06:03 SO, UH THE WORK HAS BEEN-IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT
06:09 TO GET A FOOTHOLD IN CAMBODIA UH, AFTER THAT,
06:14 THINGS DIED DOWN AGAIN AND THE CHURCH DISAPPEARED
06:19 AGAIN.
06:21 IT WASN'T THEN UNTIL 1955 THAT A COLPORTEUR TRAN
06:27 TRAN BEGAN GIVING BIBLE STUDIES.
06:29 TRAN TRAN, I LIKE THAT.
06:32 THAT'S A NAME I SHOULD BE ABLE TO REMEMBER.
06:34 THAT'S A GOOD NAME - TRAN TRAN.
06:35 AT LEAST THE SECOND NAME IF I CAN GET THE FIRST
06:38 NAME.
06:39 EXACTLY.
06:40 UM, AND HE WENT IN AND STARTED UH, GIVING BIBLE
06:44 STUDIES AND HE BAPTIZED -WE ARE NOT SURE THE
06:48 NUMBER BUT MAYBE AS MANY AS NINE, NINE PEOPLE.
06:50 NINE PEOPLE.
06:51 AND I WANT TO PAUSE THERE BECAUSE IT OUR WESTERN
06:55 CULTURE WE THINK OH, JUST NINE PEOPLE?
06:57 BUT HAVING LIVED IN A BUDDHIST COUNTRY, BUDDHISM
07:00 IS YOUR FAMILY, IT IS YOUR RELIGION, IT IS YOUR
07:04 CULTURE, IT IS YOUR LIFE, IT IS YOUR EVERYTHING AND
07:08 FOR THESE PEOPLE TO MAKE A SWITCH, GARY-IT TAKES A
07:12 LONGTIME FOR MANY OF THESE PEOPLE.
07:15 IT DOES TAKE A LONG TIME.
07:16 YES, AND OBVIOUSLY THE LORD CAN WORK AND THINGS
07:19 CAN BE SHORTER THROUGH THE WORK OF THE HOLY SPIRIT
07:23 BUT FOR SOME PEOPLE THIS IS A MAJOR SWITCH, YOU
07:26 KNOW.
07:26 YES, IT IS.
07:27 AND ALSO, TO THINK OF THESE DEAR PEOPLE, YOU
07:29 KNOW, WE THINK ABOUT GETTING ON AN AIRPLANE AND
07:32 YOU KNOW IN A MATTER OF 24 HOURS, I ALWAYS SAY THIS,
07:34 IN A MATTER OF 24 HOURS IT IS AMAZING WHERE YOU CAN
07:36 FIND YOURSELF IN THE WORLD.
07:38 YES.
07:39 BUT THESE PEOPLE GOING OUT IN 1921, 1938 I MEAN THESE
07:42 PEOPLE WERE ON SHIPS.
07:44 YES, THEY WERE.
07:45 TO GET TO THESE PLACES AND SO THIS WAS A MAJOR LIFE
07:47 COMMITMENT TO THE LORD OF GOING OVER SEAS.
07:51 YES.
07:52 WELL, IT WAS THEN IN 1957 THAT PASTOR RALPH NEAL AND
07:57 HIS WIFE BEATRICE WERE ABLE TO GET INTO THE
08:01 COUNTRY AND THEY BEGAN WORKING.
08:04 THEY UH, THEY BUILT A CHURCH AND THEY BEGAN
08:10 WRITING BOOKS AND TRANSLATING THE BOOKS.
08:13 UH, PASTOR NEAL IS STILL LIVING TODAY.
08:16 OH, HE IS?
08:18 HE LIVES IN CHATTANOOGA.
08:20 OK, IN TENNESSEE.
08:21 YES, AND SO I'VE BEEN ABLE TO VISIT WITH HIM SOME
08:24 ABOUT THE WORK THAT HE DID.
08:26 THAT'S FANTASTIC AND I WAS ABLE TO TAKE OVER COPIES
08:31 OF A COUPLE OF BOOKS THAT HE AND HIS WIFE WROTE, UH
08:34 HUH, TO SEE IF WE COULD GET THEM REPUBLISHED BUT
08:36 WE WERE ABLE TO FIND COPIES THERE.
08:39 SO, THEIR WORK CONTINUES IN CAMBODIA.
08:42 AND THAT FIRST PICTURE YOU SHOWED OF THAT BUILDING,
08:44 WHAT WAS THAT?
08:45 THAT WAS ANGKOR WAT.
08:47 THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU IF THAT'S WHAT
08:48 THAT WAS.
08:49 YES.
08:50 UH, I WASN'T ABLE TO GET THERE TO VISIT WHEN I WAS
08:53 THERE IN THE '70'S BECAUSE THE KMER ROUGE HELD THAT
08:59 AT THE TIME.
09:01 OK.
09:02 MAYBE SOMEONE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT ANGKOR WAT IS?
09:04 COULD YOU SHARE?
09:05 ANGKOR WAT IS THE LARGEST RELIGIOUS STRUCTURE IN THE
09:09 WORLD AND IT WAS BUILT IN THE 12TH CENTURY AND IT
09:13 HAS IN ITS EARLY YEARS TRANSITIONED BETWEEN
09:20 HINDUISM AND BUDDHISM.
09:23 OH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
09:24 YES, AND RIGHT NOW, OF COURSE, IT IS A VERY
09:29 IMPORTANT SITE FOR THE BUDDHISTS BECAUSE THEY
09:32 HOLD IT AND IT IS FASCINATING TO BE ABLE TO
09:36 TOUR IT AND SEE- AND IT IS HUGE, ISN'T IT?
09:39 ABSOLUTLEY HUGE.
09:40 AND REALLY TO SPEAK OF THAT ONE TEMPLE IS
09:44 INSUFFICIENT TO TELL THE STORY BECAUSE THERE ARE
09:49 MANY TEMPLES THAT ARE SOMEWHAT LIKE THAT IN THE
09:53 SURROUNDING AREA WHERE ANGKOR WAT IS BECAUSE IT
09:56 WAS-ANGKOR WAS MORE THAN JUST A PLACE IT WAS
10:01 HEADQUARTERS FOR THE UH MIGHTY EMPIRE OF ANGKOR.
10:07 SO, THERE WERE A LOT OF TEMPLES THERE.
10:10 INTERESTING.
10:11 UH, SO I'M PRIVILEGED TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SEE IT
10:16 EARLIER THIS YEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME AND I'M HOPING
10:21 TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK AGAIN.
10:23 SURE.
10:24 YOU CAN'T SEE IT ALL AT ONE TIME.
10:26 AND I HEAR THERE-IS IT TRUE THAT THERE ARE A LOT
10:28 OF MONKEYS THAT RUN AROUND THERE?
10:29 WELL, I DIDN'T SEE THE MONKEYS.
10:31 THEY MAY BE THERE AT DIFFERENT TIMES BUT MAYBE
10:35 COVID WAS KEEPING THEM AWAY.
10:37 YES.
10:38 MAYBE NOW THAT'S A FUNNY JOKE.
10:39 WELL, KEEP GOING HERE GARY.
10:43 BUT PASTOR NEAL, AS I SAID, BUILT A CHURCH AND
10:50 THE CHURCH AH, SERVED WELL.
10:54 IN FACT, FOR QUITE SOME TIME BUT MOST OF THE TIME
10:59 THAT IT EXISTED IT WAS EMPTY BECAUSE HE ALSO WAS
11:04 FORCED OUT UH IN THE 60'S HE WAS FORCED TO LEAVE
11:14 AGAIN.
11:16 AS THE VIETNAM WAR WAS PROGRESSING OR WAS
11:18 THIS-THERE WERE JUST STRUGGLES AND
11:21 DIFFICULTIES.
11:22 THE VIETNAM WAR MAY HAVE HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH
11:23 IT, AH, THAT PART I DON'T KNOW THE REASON WHY.
11:29 BUT THEN IN 1972, THE CHURCH DECIDED TO TRY A
11:33 NEW VENTURE AND THEY SENT ED MOORE INTO PHNOM PENH
11:40 AND HE STARTED AN ENGLISH LANGUAGE SCHOOL.
11:43 HIS TEACHERS THAT HE USED WERE STUDENT MISSIONARIES
11:46 FROM WALLA WALLA AND PUC AND I THINK ONE FROM
11:51 SOUTHERN.
11:52 OK.
11:53 AND THEY WENT IN AND DID A GOOD JOB.
11:56 THEY GOT THE SCHOOL GOING AND PUT IT UNDER A GOOD
12:00 FOOTING AND THAT'S WHEN I WAS BROUGHT INTO THE
12:04 PICTURE THEN IN 1973.
12:06 OK.
12:08 AND WHAT SCHOOL WERE YOU ATTENDINGAT THE TIME?
12:10 I HAD BEEN ATTENDING UNION COLLEGE, OK, AND I HAD
12:11 GONE AS A STUDENT MISSIONARY TO KOREA, TO
12:17 THE LANGUAGE SCHOOLS THERE AND THEY ASKED ME TO MOVE
12:20 DOWN TO CAMBODIA TO DIRECT THE SCHOOL.
12:22 SO, YOU WERE AN E.S.L.
12:24 PROFESSIONAL.
12:25 BY THE TIME I GOT THERE -ENGLISH AS SECOND
12:27 LANGUAGE- IF THERE IS SUCH A THING THEN I GUESS I WAS
12:30 IT.
12:31 AH, BUT IT WAS QUITE A DIFFICULT CHOICE-DECISION.
12:37 WHY?
12:38 TO MAKE TO GO FROM KOREA TO CAMBODIA.
12:41 FIRST OF ALL, TO SPEND A SECOND YEAR AWAY FROM
12:43 HOME, SURE, AWAY FROM SCHOOL AND AWAY FROM
12:46 FAMILY BUT SECOND BECAUSE I KNEW THE WAR THAT WAS
12:50 RAGING.
12:50 YES, WHAT A TIME TO BE THERE GARY.
12:52 SO, WHEN I ARRIVED I FOUND THAT ONE CHURCH MEMBER HE
12:58 WAS WORKING AT THE LANGUAGE SCHOOL AND I
13:01 SHOULDN'T SAY I FOUND HIM BUT -YOU MET HIM- I MET
13:05 HIM UH HUH AND ED AND THE REST OF HIS STAFF UH, LEFT
13:11 WITHIN A FEW DAYS AFTER MY ARRIVAL AND A FEW NEW
13:15 STUDENT MISSIONARIES ARRIVED THAT WOULD BE
13:17 WORKING WITH ME AND WE JUST WENT RIGHT AHEAD WITH
13:22 THE LANGUAGE SCHOOL.
13:23 THERE WAS ONE MORE YOUNG COUPLE THAT WAS THERE WHO
13:27 ARRIVED A WEEK BEFORE I DID.
13:28 UH, ROONGUN TEAL AND HIS WIFE IVIE WERE-THEY JUST
13:34 GRADUATED FROM SCHOOL IN SINGAPORE.
13:37 I LIKE THAT UU IN THE THROAT.
13:41 AND THEY GOT MARRIED AND THEY CAME TO PHNOM PENH
13:44 FOR THEIR AH, HONEYMOON, SEE, AND TO START STUDYING
13:49 THE LANGUAGE AND TO -THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THERE
13:54 FOR FIVE YEARS.
13:56 SO, THEY WERE THERE AND WE WERE CONDUCTING THE
14:01 LANGUAGE SCHOOL AND BUT IT WAS DURING THE 14 MONTHS I
14:06 WAS THERE, BECAUSE OF THE WAR, BECAUSE OF THE KHMER
14:11 ROUGE UH THE EMBASSY TOLD ME ON FIVE DIFFERENT
14:18 OCCASIONS THAT WE NEEDED TO EVACUATE AND TAKE OUR
14:21 PEOPLE OUT BECAUSE IT WASN'T SAFE BECAUSE OF THE
14:24 MOVEMENTS OF THE KHMER ROUGE.
14:25 WOW, SO FIVE TIMES DID YOU STAY OR FIVE TIMES DID YOU
14:26 GO?
14:27 I WENT ONCE, OK.
14:28 AND THAT WAS TO SAIGON AND WORKED AT THE THIRD FIELD
14:36 HOSPITAL THAT THE US MILITARY HAD GIVEN TO THE
14:43 CHURCH THERE WHEN THEY MOVED OUT OF IT.
14:46 YOUR PARENTS ARE PRAYING FOR YOU THE WHOLE TIME.
14:48 SURE.
14:52 THEY MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN EVERYTHING THAT WAS
14:54 HAPPENING.
14:55 YES, PROBABLY NOT SINCE THAT WAS BEFORE EMAIL,
14:58 RIGHT?
14:59 YES, IN FACT WHEN I WAS SUPPOSED TO-WHEN I WAS
15:03 TOLD BY THE EMBASSY TO EVACUATE I HAD TO CALL THE
15:07 OFFICE IN SINGAPORE TO SEE WHAT THEY FELT WITH THAT
15:11 INFORMATION AND IT TOOK THREE DAYS TO GET THE
15:13 PHONE CALL THROUGH AND AFTER THAT, WHEN I FINALLY
15:17 GOT THROUGH THE RESPONSE WAS, WELL, YOU'RE THE ONE
15:21 SCENE YOU MAKE THE DECISION.
15:23 SO, IT TOOK THREE DAYS TO GET THE CALL THROUGH.
15:25 YES.
15:26 WELL, I REMEMBER LIVING OVERSEAS AND PRAYING THAT
15:28 THE PHONE WOULD WORK BUT IT NEVER TOOK THREE DAYS
15:30 BUT WOW.
15:31 WELL, GARY THANK YOU FOR SHARING WITH US AND IF YOU
15:33 ARE JUST ENJOYING THIS STORY THAT GARY IS SHARING
15:36 ABOUT CAMBODIA AND HOW GOD IS WORKING-IT IS JUST
15:39 GETTING GOING PEOPLE.
15:40 SO, WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR PARTNERING
15:42 WITH US.
15:43 THANK YOU FOR YOUR DONATIONS AND HERE IS SOME
15:45 INFORMATION FOR YOU.
15:49 GOSPEL OUTREACH IS SHARING JESUS WITH THOUSANDS OF
15:52 UNREACHED PEOPLE IN THE 10/40 WINDOW.
15:55 MORE THAN 25 YEARS AGO, FRANK STANYER AND EDGAR
15:59 PANGOLINAN SAW THE HUGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE
16:03 PHILIPPINES WHO STILL NEEDED TO HEAR ABOUT
16:05 JESUS.
16:07 THESE TWO LAYMEN FELT THE LORD CALLING THEM TO SHARE
16:10 THE GOSPEL IN THE PHILIPPINES.
16:12 TO GENERATE AND RAISE FUNDS THE TWO MEN STARTED
16:15 GOSPEL OUTREACH TO PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR LOCAL BIBLE
16:18 WORKERS THROUGH A VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION.
16:21 SOON FRANK AND EDGAR REALIZED THAT BILLIONS OF
16:24 PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE PHILIPPINES ALSO NEEDED TO
16:27 HEAR THE NAME OF JESUS AND LEARN ABOUT HIS PLAN OF
16:30 SALVATION.
16:31 NINETY-SEVEN PER CENT OF THE UNREACHED PEOPLE IN
16:35 THE WORLD LIVE IN THE AREA FROM 10/40 DEGREES NORTH
16:38 OF THE EQUATOR, FROM WEST AFRICA, THE MIDDLE EAST,
16:43 INDIA, CHINA TO JAPAN WHICH IS KNOWN AS THE
16:47 10/40 WINDOW.
16:49 FRANK AND EDGAR EXPANDED THEIR SCOPE TO ALSO
16:52 SUPPORT BIBLE WORKERS IN THESE COUNTRIES BY WORKING
16:55 THROUGH THE CHURCH AND PARTNERING WITH MISSION
16:57 ORGANIZATIONS.
16:59 CURRENTLY, GOSPEL OUTREACH SUPPORTERS FUND MORE THAN
17:02 2000 BIBLE WORKERS IN MORE THAN 50 COUNTRIES.
17:06 GOD IS DOING MIRACLES IN THE 10/40 WINDOW.
17:10 GOD IS DOING MIRACLES IN THE 10/40 WINDOW.
17:12 GOD IS DOING MIRACLES WITH US WHERE WE LIVE IN THE
17:15 COUNTRIES THAT WE LIVE IN AND GOD IS DOING MIRACLES
17:19 AND WE ARE HEARING ABOUT WHAT GOD HAS DONE AND IS
17:22 DOING IN THE COUNTRIES OF CAMBODIA AND VIETNAM WITH
17:25 GARY WAGNER.
17:26 YES, WELL THE WORK OF THE LANGUAGE SCHOOL BECAME
17:31 MORE THAN JUST TEACHING ENGLISH.
17:32 UH, IT ALWAYS IS.
17:35 OF COURSE.
17:36 WE ALSO CONDUCTED EVANGELISTIC MEETINGS AND
17:40 BIBLE CLASSES AND THEN WE GOT INVOLVED WITH UH
17:46 -THAT'S PASTOR NEAL THERE?
17:47 THAT'S PASTOR NEAL, WHO WE SPOKE OF EARLIER AND A
17:49 COUPLE OF PEOPLE HE BAPTIZED, UH HUH, AND I'M
17:53 BEHIND ON MY-KEEP GOING IT IS ALL GOOD.
17:55 SO, THIS IS THE LANGUAGE SCHOOL, UH HUH, WHERE WE
18:00 WORKED.
18:01 THEN ONE OF OUR STUDENTS -THIS IS THE YOUNG MAN WHO
18:08 WAS THE FIRST BAPTIZED MEMBER.
18:09 TRAN TRAN?
18:09 NO, OK.
18:10 TAK SAKARIA AND HE LEFT WITH US ON OUR FIRST
18:17 EVACUATION SO THAT WE COULD SEND HIM TO STUDY TO
18:20 BECOME A PASTOR.
18:21 WONDERFUL.
18:22 AH, OUR STUDENT MISSIONARIES HAD
18:28 INTERESTING MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION.
18:30 MOST OF THE TIME WE WALKED BUT TOWARD THE END OF THE
18:34 TIME WE DID GET BICYCLES AND- I HAD A BIKE WHEN I
18:39 WAS A STUDENT MISSIONARY AND WE JOKED WITHOUR BIKES
18:41 BECAUSE I THOUGHT I WAS DRIVING A JAGUAR SO THAT
18:44 WE HAD A MODEL OF A CAR FOR OUR RAMSHACKLE BIKES.
18:49 MY FIRST BIBLE CLASS WAS A CLASS WITH 12 BUDDHIST
18:52 MONKS.
18:53 INTERESTING.
18:54 AND SOME OF THEM WERE MORE INTERESTED THAN OTHERS.
18:59 THEY ACTUALLY JUST WANTED TO STUDY THE ENGLISH BUT
19:02 YOU SEE THE SECOND FROM THE RIGHT, HIS NAME LAM
19:04 SAMAT.
19:05 I NOTICED HIM- HE IS SMILING A LITTLE BIT.
19:09 YES, AND HE ACTUALLY ACCEPTED CHRIST AND WAS
19:12 BAPTIED.
19:13 HE DID?
19:14 YES, AND WE'LL SEE HIM MORE IN THE FUTURE, OK,
19:18 BUT STUDENTS OUR STUDENTS WERE MOSTLY YOUNG AND
19:23 MANY, MANY OF THEM WERE INTERESTED IN JESUS
19:26 BECAUSE THEY WERE RECOGNIZING THAT BUDDHISM
19:30 JUST WASN'T TEACHING THEM TO PREPARE THEM FOR LIFE
19:35 IN THESE CONDITIONS AND THEY WERE, THEY WERE VERY
19:40 INTERESTED.
19:41 SO, DURING THAT 14 MONTHS THE LORD WAS ABLE TO GIVE
19:45 US 23 SOULS WHO WERE BAPTIZED AND ONE OF
19:49 THEM-THIS IS ONE OF THE BAPTISM GROUPS.
19:51 UH HUH.
19:52 WITH G.
19:53 TEAL AND HIS WIFE IVIE THERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
19:57 G TEAL HE IS A FUNNY MAN.
20:01 YES, HE HAS A GOOD SENSE OF HUMOR.
20:03 RIGHT.
20:04 HE HAS A VERY GOOD SENSE OF HUMOR.
20:07 AND HE IS A VERY GOOD FRIEND.
20:11 SO, IT IS NICE TO BE ABLE TO LOOK BACK AT THE
20:16 BEGINNINGS, YES, OF THE ADVENTIST CHURCH BECAUSE
20:20 THE OTHER THING THAT WAS HAPPENING THROUGH THE WORK
20:23 THERE.
20:24 THIS IS SAMET BEING BAPTIZED UH, BY PASTOR
20:28 HELTON FISCHER.
20:29 PASTOR FISCHER WAS ACTUALLY IN CHARGE OF OUR
20:32 WORKIN CAMBODIA BUT HE LIVED IN VIETNAM AND WE
20:35 SAW HIM FOR A FEW DAYS EVERY MONTH.
20:36 UH HUH.
20:37 AND WE NEEDED SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND DO BAPTISMS.
20:38 YES.
20:39 BUT WE ALWAYS APPRECIATED HIS VISITS.
20:40 BUT THE OTHER THING THAT WAS HAPPENING OF COURSE,
20:42 WAS THE WAR.
20:45 AND POL POT WAS DESTROYING VILLAGE AFTER VILLAGE.
20:54 PEOPLE WOULD BE FORCED TO EVACUATE JUST ON A MOMENTS
20:57 NOTICE.
20:58 SOME OF THEM HAD OXCARTS LIKE THESE TO BE ABLE TO
21:00 PUT THEIR THINGS IN BUT MOST OF THEM JUST SIMPLY
21:03 HAD TO GRAB WHAT THEY COULD AND RUN.
21:06 SO, THE SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST WORLD SERVICE
21:08 BEGAN DISTRIBUTING CLOTHES AND SOME FOOD TO THE
21:13 REFUGEES IN THE VILLAGES WHERE THEY WERE GOING AND
21:17 THAT BECAME THE WORK OF THE LANGUAGE SCHOOL
21:19 BECAUSE IT WAS THE ONLY WORK THAT THE CHURCH HAD
21:21 GOING THERE.
21:23 SO, WE WERE ABLE TO VISIT MANY VILLAGES AND CAMPS
21:28 THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY OF CAMBODIA.
21:31 THE MILITARY WAS ALWAYS THERE WITH US WHEN WE WENT
21:34 BECAUSE THE KHMER ROUGE WERE ALWAYS CLOSE BY AND
21:38 THAT WAS THE BEGINNING.
21:42 OUR CHURCH MEMBERS WHO HAD BEEN BAPTIZED IN THE
21:46 LANGUAGE SCHOOL BECAME PART OF OUR SEVENTH DAY
21:48 ADVENTIST WORLD SERVICE WHICH IS WHAT BECAME ADRA
21:52 LATER-ADVENTIST DEVELOPMENT RELIEF AGENCY,
21:54 YES.
21:55 AND SO, WE HAD A NICE UNIFORM TO WEAR AND SO
22:00 MANY OF THEM WORE A UNIFORM AND WENT OUT AND
22:03 WORKED WITH US TO DISTRIBUTE CLOTHES IN THE
22:05 REFUGEE CAMPS-IN THE REFUGEE CAMPS.
22:07 THEY WEREN'T CAMPS AS MUCH AS JUST THE VILLAGES THAT
22:10 THEY FLED TO.
22:11 OH.
22:11 AT THE TIME.
22:12 OK.
22:13 THIS WAS BEFORE CAMPS EXISTED.
22:18 WE WOULD GO TO THE BUDDHIST PAGODAS AND I
22:24 WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL THE PEOPLE THESE
22:28 ARE THE GIFTS OF PEOPLE IN AMERICA AND THEY ARE GIVEN
22:33 TO YOU BECAUSE WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT JESUS LOVES
22:36 YOU AND IT WAS A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY.
22:41 IN FACT, WE LEARNED LATER THAT THE MEDIA THERE WAS
22:46 FOLLOWING IT AND THEY WERE EVEN DOING A NEWSREEL OF
22:50 OUR DISTRIBUTIONS AND SHOWING THEM AT THE MOVIE
22:52 THEATRES IN THE TOWN.
22:53 REALLY?
22:54 SO, WE FOUND PEOPLE WHO KNEW ABOUT THE WORK OF THE
23:00 CHURCH AND OTHER PEOPLE WHO KNEW ABOUT THE WORK IN
23:04 THE LANGUAGE SCHOOLS SO IN 1974 WHEN '75 WHEN VIETNAM
23:15 FELL, AH CAMBODIA FELL AS WELL AND FROM THEN UNTIL
23:20 1979 OR '80 IT WAS JUST DARK.
23:26 YES.NOT MUCH.
23:27 WE KNEW THAT OUR CHURCH MEMBERS WERE ALL TARGETS
23:33 UH, BECAUSE ANYONE WHO HAD A FOREIGN RELIGION, ANYONE
23:41 WHO HAD AN EDUCATION OF HIGH SCHOOL OR HIGHER,
23:46 ANYONE WHO WORE GLASSES OR HAD DENTAL WORK, ANYBODY
23:50 WHO HAD FRIENDS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES WERE ON THE LIST
23:55 TO BE EXECUTED.
23:57 EXECUTED?
23:58 EXECUTED.
23:59 EXECUTED FOR WEARING GLASSES?
24:00 YES, BECAUSE THEY WERE CONSIDERED TO BE EDUCATED,
24:05 YES, UPPER ECHELON, AND THESE WERE THE PEOPLE WHO
24:09 WOULD BE ABLE TO DEVELOP AN OPPOSITION-AGAINST THE
24:13 GOVERNMENT.
24:15 IT WAS HARDLY CALLED A GOVERNMENT.
24:17 CAMBODIAN COMMUNISM IS CONSIDERED TO HAVE BEEN
24:21 THE MOST, THE MOST PURE EFFORT UH, TO BUILD UP A
24:28 TRUE COMMUNIST COUNTRY AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THEY
24:33 DESTROYED EVERYBODY WHO MIGHT HAVE HAD ANY
24:35 OPPORTUNITY TO LEAD AN OPPOSITION TO THEM.
24:38 WHAT DIFFICULT TIMES.
24:40 SO, DURING THOSE FIVE YEARS, AH THE POPULATION
24:46 OF THE COUNTRY WAS REDUCED BY AT LEAST HALF AND
24:50 POSSIBLY MORE.
24:51 THE NUMBERS ARE REALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW.
24:54 DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.
24:55 AND PEOPLE DIED IN TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE WAYS
25:00 BUT THEN IN 1980 WE BEGAN RECOGNIZING THAT THEY WERE
25:06 COMING ACROSS INTO THAILAND AND THAT IN
25:08 ITSELF WAS A MATTER OF LIFE AND DEATH AND MANY OF
25:13 THEM DIED TRYING TO GET ACROSS INTO THAILAND AND
25:17 THE CHURCH BEGAN WORKING IN THE REFUGEE CAMPS AND
25:21 THE VILLAGES ALONG THE BORDER AND SO S.A.W.S.
25:25 SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST WORLD SERVICE DEVELOPED
25:28 THIS WORK AND I WAS ABLE TO COME BACK AS A DIRECTOR
25:34 OF S.A.W.S.
25:35 IN 1981 AND I -ONE OF THINGS THAT I LEARNED FROM
25:42 THE MAN WHO I TOOK OVER FROM WAS THAT IN ONE
25:51 VILLAGE WE HAD A BAMBOO AND THATCH CHURCH THAT WAS
25:57 BEING BUILT AND SO IN OTHER VILLAGES WE HAD
26:02 OTHER ADVENTISTS WHO WERE TEACHING THE BIBLE TO THE
26:06 PEOPLE AND SO FROM THAT SAMET WHOM YOU MET
26:12 EARLIER, BECAME THE PASTOR OF THAT LITTLE CHURCH,
26:15 WOW, IN THE VILLAGE, WOW, AND HIS STORY IS AMAZING
26:18 BUT WE DON'T HAVE TIME.
26:19 NO, THAT'S FOR ANOTHER TIME, MY FRIEND.
26:21 AND AS A RESULT OF THE WORK THAT THE OTHER
26:22 ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL AS S.A.W.S.
26:23 WAS DOING AND THE PRESENT-DAY CHURCH WAS
26:25 BUILT FROM THAT BEGINNING AND NOW NUMBERS ABOUT
26:26 3500; 3500 FROM THE ONE PERSON THAT WE HAD IN
26:27 1921, YES, NOW WE HAVE 3000 AND WE NEED MORE.
26:29 WE NEED MORE.
26:30 WE NEED MORE TO KNOW JESUS AND THAT'S THE WORK OF THE
26:31 BIBLE WORKERS AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS BUT GOSPEL
26:50 OUTREACH IS TAKING A LEADING ROLE IN TRYING TO
26:55 TEACH THE BIBLE IN THE VILLAGES AND CONTINUE TO
26:58 DO THAT WORK THAT GOD HAS BEEN BLESSING.
27:01 WELL, GARY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS WALK DOWN
27:03 HISTORY LANE.
27:04 I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT.
27:05 I LEARNED SO MANY NEW THINGS BECAUSE WE HAVE SO
27:07 MANY COUNTRIES IN THE 10/40 WINDOW AND IT IS
27:09 WONDERFUL TO HEAR ABOUT HOW GOD IS CONTINUING TO
27:12 BLESS AND THE BELIEVERS WHO HAVE STAYED STRONG.
27:14 SO, GARY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US AND IF
27:16 YOU'VE BEEN ENCOURAGED HERE, THERE ARE SO MANY
27:18 MORE WAYS HOW GOD HAS BEEN WORKING IN THIS AREA.
27:21 WE WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR LOVE AND
27:23 YOUR SUPPORT OF THE LORD AND OF GOSPEL OUTREACH.
27:26 ON BEHALF OF "ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS" AND GOSPEL
27:28 OUTREACH, I'M JULIE SANDERS KEYMER AND MAY THE


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