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00:10 A good father takes time to play.
00:15 He has strong integrity. 00:18 He is someone that is truly dedicated. 00:22 He is not afraid to show his love. 00:25 He is a caring provider. 00:28 And he is a kind spiritual leader. 00:33 These are just a few ways to describe a father's heart. 00:41 Hi. Welcome to A Father's Heart. 00:43 I'm your host Xavier. 00:44 And we're going to be discussing 00:46 how to help your children deal with racism, part two. 00:50 And with me to discuss this topic 00:52 is my friends Denry and Paul. 00:54 How are you, guys, today? 00:56 Doing well. Praise God, man. 00:57 You know, last time we spoke about this, 00:59 we went over a lot of different areas 01:01 on how to help our children deal with, 01:03 well, the elephant in the room or as we joked about it, 01:06 the pink elephant in the room, 01:08 but the elephant in the room is racism, 01:10 racism in our church, racism in the world. 01:13 And today, we want to talk about 01:14 how do we deal with that, how do we... 01:17 Basically, constructive areas on helping our kids cope, 01:22 and at the same time, changing those around them. 01:25 How do we deal with that? 01:26 To be honest, we don't deal with it. 01:30 And I'm not saying that in being indifferent, 01:32 I'm saying that is human nature cannot deal with racism. 01:37 And I know that sounds more theory and theology, 01:41 but even in our practicality, 01:44 where human nature cannot deal racism. 01:46 We have to allow Christ 01:48 to really take control of our lives 01:51 in such a way that through Him, 01:54 we have minister... 01:55 Like for example, you know, in Luke 3, 01:58 Jesus actually brings it out. 02:00 You know, when people say it... 02:02 When I tell people, 02:03 "You got to let Christ deal with this." 02:05 They say, "Oh, are you just saying, 02:06 you know, this in theology?" 02:07 No. 02:09 Look at how practical Christ was 02:10 when He introduced Himself in Luke 4 rather. 02:13 He said, "The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me 02:16 to preach the gospel to the poor." 02:18 That's action "To heal the brokenhearted, 02:21 to proclaim liberty to the captives, 02:24 recover sight to the blind, 02:25 to set liberty to those who are oppressed." 02:29 Okay? 02:31 So His mission and His duty was actions, was action, 02:35 going in there healing the sick, 02:38 taking care of the poor, 02:40 even the woman at the well 02:42 and others so breaking those boundaries, those barriers. 02:46 But rather, instead of coming with the fist, 02:49 you know, fight, fight, fight, 02:50 you know, fight fire with fire. 02:52 No, He said, you know what? 02:53 "I'll be water." I'll be water. 02:56 Okay? I'll be water. 02:58 So I'm teaching my children to be like Christ in this. 03:01 You know, don't focus so much energy 03:04 on the negativity of the world. 03:07 Jesus is going to come before this thing ends, okay? 03:11 Focus your attention on doing good, exemplifying, 03:16 let you be the last person 03:18 they say, "Wow, that person is a stereotype." 03:20 No. 03:21 Say, "Something's different about this guy. 03:23 I've insulted him, but he compliments me." 03:26 You know, you be different. 03:29 And so that's why I believe that that's how, 03:32 if you want a answer to your question, 03:34 that's how we handle it 03:36 by letting Christ handle it through us. 03:40 I've noticed a significant change 03:42 in the mindset of our new generation, 03:44 the millennials. 03:46 Take for example Ancestry.com, 03:49 something we didn't have 20, 30 years ago, 03:52 but they have a process whereby they are helping people 03:56 to trace their background by DNA analysis. 04:00 I'm just sitting here, 04:01 I'm kind of curious even just looking at us 04:03 because Luke 15, "Who is my neighbor?" 04:08 I think is a concept that we must embrace and amplify 04:13 within our homes, within our churches. 04:16 The sense of independence or isolation, 04:21 that self isolation in some cases, 04:24 separatism that many of us would embrace, 04:28 and accidentally or intentionally nurture 04:30 to our children. 04:32 We have to be very careful about that. 04:33 This picture of us against them, 04:36 we are who we are, they are who they are, 04:38 etc, etc, etc. 04:39 And start looking at things again 04:41 from a humanitarian perspective, 04:43 from the perspective of humanity. 04:45 So I'm just curious looking at each of us here, 04:48 what exactly is your mixture and your make up 04:51 to your knowledge? 04:52 Well, mine, I know, doing research, 04:55 my family was half French and Italian 05:00 and Spaniard on my mom's side. 05:03 Then I have direct descendants from Africa, 05:06 not sure which country in Africa 05:09 because the slaves, their names were changed. 05:12 Right. 05:13 You know, first name is the Christian name 05:15 that the Spaniards gave to them 05:17 and then the last name is the slave owner's last name. 05:21 So that much I know, 05:23 but I know my dad's side is 05:24 predominantly African with Dutch mixed into 05:28 and a little bit of Spaniards simply because, 05:33 unfortunately, I am a result of my ancestors being raped. 05:37 So there is, by no will of my own, 05:41 Spaniard in the bloodline as well. 05:43 So what is that you just referenced? 05:44 Six? Five or six? 05:45 Yeah, about five... 05:47 Actually about six. Okay. 05:48 And that's just the preliminary. 05:50 And yourself? I can only go back about five. 05:51 You black, dude. You black. 05:53 Yeah, I'm black but my great greats had Jewish. 05:58 Jewish? Yeah, Ethiopian. 06:00 Oh. 06:01 And my great, great, grandma on the side. 06:05 On my dad's side, Maroon Indians, Blacks, 06:10 and there's another one, 06:12 there's some European in there someplace 06:14 but I'm not sure exactly. 06:16 But... Whoa. 06:17 Yeah, I'm a melting pot. Yeah. 06:19 And for me, people meet me and... 06:22 All mixed up. 06:23 I'm South American by birth, from Ghana, African, 06:29 East Indian grandmother, 06:32 grandfather that was native mix, 06:34 Taino Arawak mixed, 06:37 and a great grandfather that was Chinese mixed. 06:41 So I have East Indian, 06:43 African, Chinese, native. 06:49 You know, what I'm painting here is 06:51 we are all in essence humanity, 06:54 you know, and this is a start... 06:56 It is a good starting point or teaching point 06:59 that I share with my child. 07:00 Now we have to be careful as we establish that truth, 07:06 that reality to talk also about identity. 07:10 So who you are in identity 07:13 is quite different from who you are racially. 07:17 So, we three here, even though we are different shades, 07:21 we share a common identity. 07:23 Yes. And it's okay to be... 07:26 It's okay to have an identities, 07:28 you know, sometimes, you come into the church 07:30 and we can be so stringent 07:33 and resistant of cultures. 07:37 We feel that culture and identity, 07:39 in some sense, is a bad thing. 07:41 It's okay. 07:42 It's okay for someone to be proud of 07:43 their Italian heritage, or their African heritage, 07:46 or their Puerto Rican heritage, 07:49 or their African-American heritage 07:52 'cause that's something different that I learned 07:54 in assimilating to the culture here in that in America, 07:58 you could be a multiplicity of shades 08:00 but we identify in one struggle as African-Americans, 08:03 that's all right. 08:04 So I think, in essence, it's important for us to know, 08:09 for us to teach our children, "Who is my neighbor?" 08:12 Yes. 08:13 And your neighbor, living within you, 08:16 is a diversity of people backgrounds, 08:19 but also to recognize the person 08:22 that is not "supposedly" in you, racially or ethnically, 08:27 that person is your neighbor also, 08:29 and you need to especially demonstrate 08:33 care, love, and benevolence towards those individuals 08:38 whether they be from the hills of Georgia, or Russia, 08:43 or wherever that may be. 08:45 And I think, too, it's important to show our kids 08:47 to be empathetic with their neighbors. 08:52 I have somebody that I had a discussion 08:54 with African-American, and I say African-American 08:56 because the person, they said it to me, 09:00 "You know, you're Caribbean. 09:02 You're able to find out where your ancestors came from, 09:06 but as an African-American, 09:07 I can't because I don't know 09:10 other than they came on a ship unwillingly. 09:13 I have no way to trace them." 09:15 You know, one... 09:17 Well, I may not agree or disagree 09:18 with that statement, the fact was that 09:21 that person was hurting, 09:22 you know, hurting because I was able to find my, 09:25 you know, those ancestors, 09:27 but they are unable to 09:28 or they felt they were unable to. 09:30 And I always try to teach my daughters that even though 09:34 people are going to say what they want to say, 09:36 listen to the hurt... 09:38 Listen to the pain because 09:41 even though they might be angry or sound angry, 09:43 beyond that, there's a hurt 09:45 that you might be able to help out with. 09:47 And I've seen that a lie, I've seen racism, 09:51 at least in my viewpoint, 09:53 has become more of a fear factor 09:55 where people are afraid 09:57 rather than ignorant so to speak. 10:00 They're just afraid, they're afraid of being... 10:04 Of many different things, and that's something 10:06 that I always try to instill in my girls that 10:08 a lot of this racism 10:10 and a lot of anger stems from fear, from fear. 10:15 And our job, as they say, the minorities, 10:19 is to educate those that are fearful, 10:23 and show that not only are we bleed like you 10:27 and have the same vital organs as you, 10:31 but our mentality is different than you. 10:34 Let's come together, let us reason together, 10:37 if they're willing obviously. 10:40 In my studies and it's been revealed to me that, 10:44 and I'm not going to call any specific race, 10:47 but any superiority, whatever the color, 10:51 superiority is actually 10:54 insecurity or inferiority. 10:59 If I'm supposed to be superior, right? 11:01 Then why is my objection, 11:04 my mission in life to push you guys down? 11:08 If I'm superior, then I'm okay by myself. 11:10 Look at God. 11:11 God is superior to us and rather than being like, 11:15 you know, this demigod who's crushing around people, 11:18 God is the what? 11:19 He's so superior that He brings us up. 11:23 Revelation say, we're going to sit on thrones with Him. 11:26 Amen. Come on. 11:28 All right? 11:30 And we saw it in Eden, Adam and Eve there 11:32 and here they had dominion whatever, 11:34 sin comes into the world, divides us, God said, 11:36 "Look. I want My people together." 11:37 One of the beautiful things about Revelation 21, 11:40 one of my favorite passages, 11:42 it says, "I saw a new heaven and new earth, 11:44 and there was no more sea." 11:47 And for me personally, 11:49 I interpret that as there's no more division 11:52 because there's no more Puerto Rico, 11:54 as much as I love Jamaica, there's no more Jamaica, 11:57 there's no more England, there's no more Africa, 11:59 there's no more separation, 12:02 and we find every excuse to separate ourselves. 12:07 So going back to our children, 12:09 teach them every excuse to mesh, to merge. 12:15 Okay? Amen. 12:16 So I can have... 12:17 I can be, and this word has been so polluted, 12:20 I can be proud of my race, 12:22 of my identity as you said better, 12:24 I think that's what it is, being part of your identity, 12:27 but I can be proud 12:29 and still not degrade somebody else's. 12:32 Exactly. 12:33 So when people say superiority, 12:36 they're really saying inferiority. 12:39 I mean, I'm so shallow about my race 12:43 that I have to try to annihilate yours 12:45 so my race can survive. 12:46 Mercy. 12:48 Profound. 12:49 And it's interesting you mention that 12:51 because, you know, we... 12:54 A lot of times, we get asked by... 12:56 You know, Jesus was asked 12:57 by which authority do you speak all these things, 13:01 and He said, "Well, 13:02 the authority is given to Me by the Father." 13:04 You know, and a lot of times we, people don't see us in our, 13:09 you know, nice get up, so to speak. 13:11 And a lot of times, I tell them, you know. 13:12 "Hey, I am a police chaplain, 13:15 I've been doing it for over five years. 13:17 I've been doing it for a long time. 13:19 I was a police officer." 13:21 I've seen racism 13:23 within the own department I worked in 13:26 and I've seen that, you know, the people that were racist, 13:29 they felt inferior to me 13:30 because I was the one getting the overtime, 13:32 I was the one getting called by the Federal Taskforce 13:35 to come and translate, you know, I was the one 13:37 that was rising up the ranks very quickly, 13:40 not because of my race but because I put in to work. 13:44 Yes. 13:45 You know, and that's one thing that I always tell people, 13:48 show them, you know, what your background is, 13:50 where you come from, that you didn't get there 13:52 because somebody handed it to you 13:54 but you worked for it. 13:55 And I don't know, I mean, what is your background, 13:58 you know, what do you guys do 13:59 that gives you this authority to speak in such a way. 14:02 And one of the beautiful things, 14:05 God has just change in my heart, right? 14:08 'Cause when I was younger, I was... 14:09 I mean, you insult me, I'm coming back at you, 14:12 but God put it in my heart, you know, we have to... 14:15 You said something about understand each other's hurt. 14:18 And one thing I've learned in Genesis 3, 14:22 God didn't approach 14:23 when Adam and Eve sinned or assumption. 14:26 You ever noticed that? 14:28 He asks the question, "Where are you? 14:30 Who told you?" 14:31 You see what I'm saying? 14:33 In our humanity, we always assume. 14:36 So here's a practical, something that I did practical 14:39 and God used, God put it in me and I used it. 14:41 When I went to the seminary, right? 14:44 Or just the school that I went to, 14:47 different departments, different buildings, 14:49 I would go in there and I'll see somebody 14:51 of a different shade, or different race, 14:53 and they wouldn't say good morning to me. 14:57 At first, it would hurt me, I was like, "Am I not human? 15:01 I mean, am I some..." 15:02 My mother taught me, 15:03 if you walk into a room and there's a pig, 15:05 you say, "Hello, pig." 15:06 You see a dog, "Hello, dog." 15:07 And so instead of playing this game of 15:11 why didn't he say hello, God taught me, you... 15:15 Matthew 5 is about you, you're a Christian, you go. 15:19 So what I would do? 15:20 I would go in there now and I say, 15:22 "Hey. Good morning. How are you doing today?" 15:25 "I had a rough day." So see right there? 15:29 I already engaged in a relationship 15:31 and I'm polite, I'm polite. 15:34 So no matter how you come to me, 15:36 I'm going to be polite to you. 15:37 And do you know when I left, these same individuals, 15:43 who at first, were very cold to me 15:45 and I assumed they were racist or whatever, 15:47 some of them were crying because they said, 15:50 "Man, your manners, 15:51 you're so respectful, you're so kind." 15:54 You know, I bought some of the flowers, 15:55 I bought cards and all these things, 15:57 these are practical things, these are what change people, 16:00 these are the things. 16:02 Great point. Great point. 16:03 I heard your question. 16:05 So, well, let me ask, let me bounce it back to Denry. 16:11 What qualifies you to speak with authority on this matter 16:15 as far as your professional background or your experience? 16:18 A professional background? Or your experiences? 16:21 Oh, experience. 16:22 And my professional background is I was a pastor. 16:25 Okay. But just as a human being... 16:28 I feel as a human being who's been hurt 16:31 and know what it feels like to be hurt, 16:33 and when somebody shows kindness, 16:36 that's why I feel like I can speak on that authority. 16:37 Right, right. 16:39 Well for me as well, 16:40 it has a lot to do with life experiences 16:43 but also some professional. 16:46 I have pastored for over eight years 16:48 but I've also been an administrator 16:50 in the area of social work, 16:52 family welfare and child welfare, 16:54 and done a lot of counseling education and workshops 17:00 dealing with diffusing, conflict resolution, 17:05 building relationship, and so on and so forth, 17:06 and I also serve as an expert witness 17:08 within the courts for matters of family reunification. 17:12 But I have a question for you 17:14 because a question that I'm often asked is, 17:18 "What do I tell my children, especially my sons, 17:23 as per how they can be safe traversing society?" 17:29 You as someone that's a current employee of law enforcement 17:33 and former police officer and such, 17:36 what do we tell our children, 17:38 what do we tell our church members 17:39 as per the practical of how they can remain safe 17:44 in meandering these pitfalls of racism? 17:47 Whether it be law enforcement 17:49 or whether it be some resident of the civil community? 17:52 I think Denry touched on it earlier a few minutes ago, 17:56 you know, where he said his manners. 17:59 You know, even though it might not keep you 18:03 from the ultimate fate of that you might encounter 18:06 with some individuals which is... 18:09 They're going to kill you, the manners go a long way. 18:13 You know, you're not... 18:16 Working with police officers, 18:18 being trained as a police officer, 18:21 your main goal is not out there 18:23 to kill somebody or shoot somebody, 18:25 that's not your objective, 18:26 that you're there to serve and protect. 18:29 Unfortunately, like any other profession, 18:33 you have people that fall through the cracks, 18:35 meaning that they come in with the wrong mindset of 18:40 "Now I'm the authority." 18:41 You have pastors from the pulpit 18:43 abusing their power as pastors. 18:46 You're going to encounter it 18:47 in every profession of authority. 18:49 And I always tell my friends that are pastors, 18:52 there's not a really big difference 18:53 between pastors and officers. 18:56 You both have the authority to take life. 18:58 Mercy. 19:00 One is physical, one is eternal. 19:02 You both have the authority to incarcerate people 19:05 whether it be physical or spiritual. 19:08 You both have to live by a weapon, 19:12 one is a physical gun, 19:14 the other one is the Bible, the soul of the spirit. 19:18 You know, there is not much difference. 19:20 And I always tell my kids, 19:22 be respectful, just show respect, 19:25 "Yes, sir. No, sir. Yes, ma'am. No, ma'am." 19:28 Will that save you? No. 19:31 But the likelihood of escalating the situation 19:34 will be diminished 19:36 because now you are being cooperative. 19:39 Everything is videoed 19:41 and you have plenty of authority to video 19:44 depending on the state. 19:45 I always tell people Google is a fountain of information. 19:49 You know, the irony behind it is that as law enforcement, 19:52 you don't get taught all the laws, 19:56 you're not a lawyer, that's not your job. 19:57 Your job is to enforce the laws. 19:59 And I always tell, you know, kids, 20:02 and I work with many youth, you know, just be respectful. 20:05 They are automatically going to assume. 20:08 Why? 20:09 Because you're taught that everybody could kill you, 20:11 no matter what race. 20:12 That's right. 20:14 You're taught that anybody... 20:15 A little grandma can kill you. That's right. 20:16 So compound that with television, 20:19 which predominately shows you one side of the coin 20:22 when it comes to black people. 20:24 You know, Hollywood shows black people 20:27 are the drug dealers, the criminals, 20:29 you know, everything that is opposed to, 20:33 you know, being lawful but lawless. 20:36 Music industry, same thing, promotes lawlessness. 20:39 Mercy. 20:40 So you're automatically preprogrammed 20:43 by your police academy, 20:45 throw in what you're watching on TV, 20:46 Bible says, "By beholding, you become" right? 20:49 So, you know, you have this idea 20:51 that automatically, subconsciously, 20:54 you encounter a black person, 20:56 put your guard up, they might have a gun. 20:58 You know, I was told jokingly, 20:59 "Oh, you're Hispanic. You probably carry a knife." 21:02 I didn't find that funny. 21:04 But you know what? That's reality. 21:06 And I always told kids, 21:07 you know, just be respectful, 21:09 be mindful of how you address them, 21:11 be mindful of your hands, 21:14 you know, try to keep your hands 21:16 where they can see them for their safety 21:19 because you're trained that if you don't see the hands, 21:21 they might be reaching for something. 21:24 And we see in events that, yeah, 21:27 it was through other thing, 21:28 the media is an enemy of law enforcement, 21:30 not because they might show the truth 21:32 but because a lot of times 21:34 you have half a clip of what actually occurred, 21:37 of what lead to that escalation of force. 21:41 And I always try to tell my kids 21:42 just, you know, keep calm, know your rights, 21:46 which sounds ironic, but do you have rights? 21:49 And if you feel uncomfortable at any point, 21:52 in any and every department even though every state, 21:55 every county is taught differently unfortunately, 21:59 they're taught that, you know, you have every right 22:01 to call a superior, 22:03 say "I want to speak to your commanding officer." 22:06 And you are more gonna wait there, 22:07 they have no way of pushing you to do otherwise. 22:11 I always tell that if you feel uncomfortable, 22:14 if you're at night, driving 22:16 and you get pulled over somewhere that is dark, 22:19 you have every right to drive to a well lit spot. 22:22 Just call, you know, 911 or dispatch or whomever, say. 22:24 "Hey I'm being pulled over so and so. 22:27 Please let them know that I'm not fleeing, 22:29 so don't speed off. 22:30 I'm not fleeing, I just want to be at a spot" 22:33 or if you feel uncomfortable 22:35 because this might be an unmarked vehicle. 22:37 You can call 911, 22:38 "Being pulled over by so and so. 22:40 You know, is this a real officer?" 22:43 There's so many things that can be prevented. 22:45 It starts, you know... That's very important. 22:48 Especially through, you have to keep calm, 22:51 you have to be able to keep calm. 22:52 And while you're doing that, 22:54 that information is being recorded 22:55 as evidence that you did. 22:57 Correct. That's very important. 22:58 Yeah, they have mikes, everything. 23:00 What most people don't know is 23:01 once they flip the light bar switch, 23:03 everything starts being recorded, 23:04 camera starts recording, they have a mike pack 23:07 in which they have to record everything that's coming in. 23:11 So there are rights and regulations, 23:13 and you can always ask, you can always go, 23:16 especially as pastors, 23:18 you know, let's bring our kids to the police departments 23:22 and create that harmony in community, 23:25 work towards building the harmony 23:27 between community and law enforcement. 23:29 Will it be perfect? 23:31 No, but nothing is ever perfect. 23:33 But we have to take steps, 23:35 we're doing too much sharing of posts, 23:37 too much clicking, too much of this. 23:40 We have to start talking 23:41 because our kids are watching us... 23:42 Yes, yes. 23:44 And how their fathers deal with injustice. 23:46 Let me tell you one of the another practical thing 23:48 we did at the church that I was pastoring. 23:53 You know, before I pastored, 23:54 I worked in mental health for years. 23:56 And once again, 23:58 I've learned from mistakes not to assume anything. 24:02 We'll probably talk about this another time. 24:04 When I was in mental health, 24:06 I met a young man who was homosexual 24:09 and I assumed, you know, 24:13 that it was because he chose it, 24:14 all these things were very rounded. 24:16 When he shared his... 24:18 And we sat down and he shared his story, 24:20 he said, "You know, Mr. White..." 24:22 At that time, I was not a pastor yet. 24:24 "I was molested when I was four years old, 24:28 you know, by my father and my uncle." 24:32 And I sat down with another guy who was homosexual too 24:35 and he shared his story, and another, 24:37 and I listened to their stories. 24:39 And because of that experience, 24:41 working in five years of mental health, 24:43 just sit down and listen to people's stories 24:47 just like Christ did, 24:49 I took that into ministry. 24:51 And one of the churches I started working in, 24:54 there was racism, but the other kind of racism. 24:58 Inter-racism. 25:00 They're all black, 25:01 majority of them, rather all black, 25:03 but there are three major nationalities. 25:06 There's Africans, there are West Indians, 25:08 and African-Americans, 25:10 and you would think, 25:12 "Oh, do you know these people get along." 25:15 Deep down inside, they didn't. Right. 25:17 So for Black History Month, I said, 25:20 "You know, we wanted you guys to share your story 25:23 to celebrate your identity in Christ, 25:27 but sit down and share your story." 25:28 We had a panel discussion, 25:29 and one of my kids that he was at AYS, 25:31 I had all the youth leader too 25:33 'cause I wanted them to sit down and hear this. 25:35 And we had three different... 25:38 I mean, not three denomination, three different cultures, 25:41 all three of them sit down, representative for me 25:44 and I want you guys to share your story. 25:46 How have you dealt 25:48 with oppression, racism, whatever?" 25:50 We were blown away. 25:51 Within our own race. Within our way. 25:53 The people from Africa, this lady was from South Africa 25:58 and she shared about the apartheid. 26:00 This guy was from Guyana 26:02 and he shared about racism in South America. 26:06 The other person was from Africa-America 26:09 and she shared about in the south and stuff. 26:11 And when they all were sitting down 26:13 and listening to each other's stories, 26:14 you can see and the audience was like 26:16 "Wow. We all are hurt." Yeah. 26:20 "We all have been damaged by this." 26:22 You know what they'd say? 26:24 We should not focus our attention now 26:25 on throwing blows, more blows at each other 26:28 but rather, try to help heal each other. 26:30 Healing. Yeah. 26:32 And so sharing stories, listening to people, 26:34 taking that time out to find... 26:36 Like I said, when I used to go to the departments, 26:39 even if I go to a department store now... 26:41 We're at Walmart and went to the department, 26:44 this lady had a chip on her shoulder, 26:45 Caucasian lady. 26:47 Right? 26:48 Lord was like, "Calm down, listen to her story." 26:51 I said, "How are you doing today?" 26:54 And do you know what she said to me? 26:55 She said. 26:57 "I've been having a terrible day." 27:00 So do not assume. 27:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. 27:05 Amen. I guess so we... 27:07 This is such a big topic, 27:09 and we can discuss this for days and hours. 27:12 You know, and there is no clear cut answer 27:15 to these issues, but Jesus. 27:17 Exactly. 27:19 You know, there's something I want to convey 27:20 to the fathers out there is your kids are watching you. 27:24 They're watching how you deal with the issues, 27:27 the injustices, 27:28 they're watching you if you lose your temper 27:31 or if you keep your temper. 27:33 They're watching you to see if you follow Christ 27:36 or your own personal feelings. 27:38 And not to say that you're a bad parent 27:41 or a bad father if you make a mistake, 27:43 it's just to say wouldn't that be a reason 27:45 to cling on to Christ that much more? 27:48 It sounds cliche, but like I always tell people, 27:50 I don't follow Jesus for the sake of it, 27:53 I follow Jesus to keep me from being angry 27:56 and hurting anybody else at these injustices 27:59 and being an example to my kids. 28:01 If for anything else, do it for your kids. 28:04 Racism will not end until Christ comes back. 28:07 Until then, be a good father and keep safe. 28:11 Thank you for watching. |
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