Pillars of Prophecy, 2012

Daniel 12

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00:46 All right. Welcome back to the Pillars of Prophecy
00:49 Spring Camp Meeting here in southern Illinois
00:52 at Three Angels Broadcasting Network.
00:55 Folks, you all have been through a lot of meetings
00:57 the last few days, haven't you?
00:59 Amen. Have you learned anything?
01:01 Yes! All right, now what are we supposed to do?
01:03 Go and tell. Go and tell... What? Right?
01:07 What has happened to us. What Jesus has done for us.
01:10 "Go ye into all the world. "
01:11 So now... you can take that food in. Now you've got to go
01:14 share with everyone else.
01:16 Those of you at home: thank you for staying with us.
01:18 I know I can tell you this:
01:20 Satan is very upset with everything that's been going on.
01:23 We have had technical problems that many of you aren't aware of
01:26 here from a number of the networks that the picture's
01:31 been freezing up. It's been not... I mean, this is
01:34 probably - and as long as I can remember -
01:37 I'm not sure, there's been 20-some hours worth of
01:39 technical problems in getting some of the programming
01:42 or not. But the devil still loses because everything's
01:46 recorded that's great. And we're going to be replaying
01:48 these programs over and over again.
01:50 Amen. And so that makes us more determined than ever
01:53 "Greater is He that is in us than he that is in the world. "
01:57 Right? Amen. And so what we're going to do
02:00 this is for a closing number... I was supposed to sing tonight
02:05 but I have something much better than that.
02:07 Since this is the last service and we have Speaker/Director
02:12 of Secrets Unsealed... of course, Bro. Stephen Bohr.
02:16 I knew Stephen... Actually... I only went to academy
02:19 one year back in '67/'68.
02:22 I knew Stephen Bohr then.
02:24 And later he came to West Frankfort and pastored
02:26 here for a year or so.
02:27 And I hadn't seen him in many years, but God has used this
02:30 man to literally minister to people around the world.
02:34 And right after the music that we have...
02:37 it's a special music... will be Stephen Bohr.
02:39 And Pastor Stephen Bohr... and then right before he comes
02:42 we have Reggie and Ladye Love Smith.
02:44 And last night when they sang I've Just Seen Jesus
02:48 it just gave me chill bumps.
02:49 Maybe it was Thursday night or last night.
02:51 What an incredible song! So I've asked them if they would
02:54 come in a sing this song tonight. So a special request.
02:57 And we love you all. Thank you for being here
03:00 and spending the weekend with us.
03:02 And we look forward to this.
03:04 And I know your dad's going to want to watch this, too. Right?
03:07 His favorite song: I've Just Seen Jesus.
03:26 We just knew He was dead...
03:30 "It is finished! " He said
03:33 and we watched as His life
03:37 ebbed away.
03:40 Then we all stood around
03:44 till the guards took Him down.
03:48 Joseph begged for His body
03:52 that day.
03:56 It was late afternoon
04:00 when we got to the tomb,
04:03 wrapped His body,
04:05 and sealed up the grave.
04:10 So I know how you feel...
04:14 His death was so real.
04:18 But please listen
04:20 and hear what I say:
04:26 "I've just seen
04:30 Jesus!
04:35 I tell you
04:38 He's alive.
04:42 I've just seen
04:44 Jesus,
04:47 our precious Lord,
04:52 alive! "
04:56 And I knew -
04:59 yes, I knew -
05:00 He really saw me
05:05 too.
05:09 As if - till now -
05:14 I never lived.
05:21 All that I've done before
05:27 won't matter
05:30 anymore.
05:34 I've just seen
05:37 Jesus
05:41 and I'll never
05:46 be the same
05:48 again.
06:01 It was His voice she first heard...
06:05 those kind, gentle words...
06:09 asking what was her reason for those tears.
06:15 And I sobbed in despair:
06:19 "My Lord is not there. "
06:22 He said: "Child, it is I
06:26 I am here! "
06:31 I've just seen
06:36 Jesus!
06:41 I tell you:
06:44 "He's alive! "
06:48 I've just seen Jesus,
06:54 our precious Lord,
06:58 alive!
07:02 And I knew -
07:06 yes, I knew -
07:07 He really saw me, too.
07:12 He really saw me, too.
07:16 As if until then
07:20 I never lived.
07:27 All that I've done before
07:33 won't matter
07:36 anymore.
07:41 I've just seen
07:44 Jesus...
07:48 Well I've just seen Jesus!
07:53 I've just seen Jesus!
07:58 And all I've ever
08:03 done before
08:07 won't matter anymore...
08:14 I've just seen Jesus
08:18 and I'll never be
08:22 the same
08:24 again.
08:30 I've just seen
08:33 Jesus!
08:41 Amen!
08:55 It's been a long day
08:59 but it's been a blessed day. Amen!
09:05 High Sabbath... that's right.
09:08 What I want to do in the time that we have
09:11 in the conclusion of our series on Daniel
09:13 is to try and bring everything together that we've studied.
09:19 However, before we do we would like to have a word
09:22 of prayer, so please bow with me as we pray.
09:27 Father, this has truly been a high day.
09:30 We have felt Your presence.
09:32 We have heard Your voice.
09:34 We have been inspired by studying once again
09:40 these great prophecies from Your Holy Word.
09:44 We ask, Father, as we open Your Word
09:47 and try and get a picture of how everything fits together
09:53 that Your Holy Spirit will give us clarity of thought.
09:56 It's somewhat complex... but give us understanding.
10:01 I thank you, Lord, for the privilege of approaching You
10:04 in prayer and I know that You have heard
10:07 because I ask it in the name of Jesus. Amen.
10:11 Amen.
10:13 A careful examination of the book of Daniel
10:17 reveals that the book of Daniel
10:22 is actually composed of two books.
10:26 You know, sometimes the book of Daniel has been divided
10:29 into the historical section and the prophetic section.
10:33 The problem with that way of dividing the book of Daniel
10:36 is that in the historical section
10:39 is Daniel 2 which is a prophecy.
10:43 And so it doesn't exactly fit that way.
10:47 Others have spoken of four prophetic outlines in Daniel.
10:50 Daniel 2, Daniel 7, Daniel 8 and 9, Daniel 11 and 12.
10:55 But that also leaves many chapters that are not included
10:59 in the structure.
11:01 It's far better for us to take a look at how God
11:05 had Daniel structure this book.
11:08 The book of Daniel - as I mentioned - is actually
11:11 one book that is composed of two books.
11:16 The two books are Daniel 1 through 7
11:20 and the second book is Daniel 8 through 12.
11:24 The first seven chapters are very closely linked
11:29 and the last chapters - chapters 8 through 12-
11:33 are also very closely linked.
11:36 They have a central theme.
11:38 Now just let me mention some things about
11:42 Daniel chapters 2 through 7.
11:44 We'll pass up Daniel 1 because that's the introduction
11:47 to both parts of the book of Daniel.
11:51 But in Daniel 2 through 7 we have what is called
11:54 a chiastic structure.
11:57 And I want you to imagine a candelabrum...
12:02 a seven-branched candlestick.
12:04 You'll notice that Daniel 2 and Daniel 7 are on the same branch
12:09 of the candlestick
12:11 because Daniel 2 deals with four metals
12:14 and Daniel 7 deals with four beasts.
12:16 They're closely intertwined and related.
12:20 On the next branch of the candlestick you have
12:23 Daniel 3 and Daniel 6.
12:26 Very intimately related.
12:28 Both deal with persecution by the civil power
12:32 instigated by the religious power
12:35 and God's people having to go through a severe crisis
12:39 because of keeping God's commandments and worship.
12:43 On the last branch of the candlestick we have
12:46 Daniel 4 and 5.
12:48 These chapters also are very closely connected.
12:52 They deal with arrogant kings.
12:55 Daniel 4 deals with the fall of arrogant king Nebuchadnezzar
13:00 and Daniel chapter 5 deals with the fall of arrogant
13:04 king Belshazzar and the kingdom of Babylon.
13:08 And so Daniel 2 through 7 passing up Daniel 1
13:12 which is the introduction are very closely intertwined
13:17 and interconnected.
13:20 Now Daniel chapter 8 through chapter 12 are also
13:24 very, very closely linked. I'd like to invite you
13:29 to turn with me in your Bibles to Daniel chapter 7.
13:34 And I just want to review the sequence of powers
13:37 that we have in Daniel chapter 7
13:39 because there's the last part of the events of Daniel 7
13:43 which are really the intro- duction to Daniel 8 through 12.
13:48 Now I'm going to go through this quickly because time is short.
13:51 You know that in Daniel 7 we have Babylon then Medo-Persia
13:56 then Greece then the Roman Empire.
13:59 The Roman Empire is divided into ten kingdoms.
14:03 Then among those ten kingdoms rises the little horn.
14:07 And the little horn which represents the Roman Catholic
14:10 papacy rules for 1,260 years
14:15 which takes us to the year 1798 AD.
14:20 Now I want you to notice the event that takes place
14:23 immediately after the year 1798.
14:27 Daniel 7 and verses 9 and 10.
14:31 Remember? We have the timeframe
14:33 because we've already noticed in this prophecy
14:36 that the little horn rules 1,260 years
14:41 which end in 1798 AD.
14:44 So this next event takes place after 1798 AD.
14:47 It says in Daniel chapter 7 and verse 9 and verse 10:
14:52 "I watched till thrones were put in place
14:55 and the Ancient of Days was seated. "
14:58 So He wasn't seated there before.
15:00 "His garment was white as snow
15:03 and the hair of His head was like pure wool.
15:05 His throne was a fiery flame; its wheels of burning fire.
15:10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before Him.
15:15 A thousand thousands ministered to Him.
15:18 Ten thousand times ten thousand stood before Him.
15:22 The court was seated and the books were opened. "
15:27 Where is this event taking place?
15:29 It's taking place in heaven obviously.
15:32 That's where the angels are surrounding the throne
15:35 where God the Father sits.
15:36 And so you notice that the judgment begins
15:39 sometime after 1798 AD
15:42 because this is the next event in the sequence.
15:45 And then I want you to notice verses 13 and 14.
15:49 "I was watching in the night visions
15:53 and behold, one like the Son of Man
15:56 coming with the clouds of heaven. "
15:59 The Millerites interpreted this as the second coming.
16:01 They did not read real carefully what the text said
16:06 because it continues saying: "I was watching in the night
16:09 vision and behold, one like the Son of Man
16:11 coming with the clouds of heaven. He came
16:15 to the Ancient of Days. " Where was the Ancient of Days?
16:18 In heaven. We pray: "Our Father which art in heaven. "
16:23 He was seated on His throne in heaven to begin the judgment.
16:27 And so clearly here it says that the Son of Man
16:31 comes to the Ancient of Days and then it continues saying:
16:34 "And they... " that is, the angels... "brought Him
16:37 near before Him. " And then verse 14 tells us
16:41 what the conclusion of the whole matter is:
16:43 why Jesus came there to where the Ancient of Days was.
16:48 Verse 14: "Then to Him was given dominion and glory
16:54 and a kingdom that all peoples, nations, and languages
16:58 should serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion
17:02 which shall not pass away and His kingdom
17:05 the one which shall not be destroyed. "
17:09 Now if you read this passage carefully you discover
17:12 that the judgment is composed of two stages.
17:16 The first stage takes place in heaven
17:20 where the Son of Man goes to the Ancient of Days
17:23 where the Father sat to begin the judgment.
17:26 And then in verse 14 it says that after the judgment
17:31 the kingdom is given to Jesus Christ.
17:34 So first of all there is an investigative stage of the books
17:38 and secondly there is the executive stage
17:41 where God's people receive the reward based on what is
17:45 contained in the books.
17:47 Now go with me to Daniel chapter 12 and verse 4.
17:50 Daniel chapter 12 and verse 4.
17:53 What I want us to remember
17:56 which is crucially important to understand how the book
17:59 of Daniel is organized is that in Daniel 7
18:02 verses 9 and 10 and 13 and 14
18:05 you have a pre-Advent investigative stage of the
18:09 judgment in heaven when the Father sits and the Son of Man
18:12 comes to where the Father is seated.
18:15 Now notice Daniel chapter 12 and verse 4:
18:19 "But you, Daniel, shut up the words and seal the book... "
18:27 Now notice the next word:
18:29 "until the time of the end. "
18:32 Was the book going to be sealed forever?
18:34 No. It was going to be sealed only until when?
18:39 There's a time limit: "until the time of the end. "
18:42 And then it says: "Many shall run to and fro... "
18:47 When will they do that?
18:48 At the time of the end.
18:51 "Many will run to and fro and knowledge... "
18:54 Knowledge of what?
18:56 Knowledge of what is contained in the book that was sealed
19:00 which is now unsealed. "Knowledge shall be... " What?
19:04 "increased. " You know, sometimes I think
19:07 that we have misused this text
19:10 and we emphasize that it means, you know, that you're going to
19:13 have a lot of nuclear weapons and rockets
19:16 and electric toothbrushes and things like that.
19:20 An increase in scientific knowledge.
19:23 But really, in its context this is speaking about
19:27 the book that contains Daniel 8 through 12.
19:31 That's what I want to show you: that it deals with
19:33 Daniel 8 through 12. That is the book that was sealed
19:36 until the time of the end.
19:39 In other words, it was sealed until 1798 AD.
19:42 After 1798 AD the book would be unsealed
19:46 and knowledge of the contents of the book,
19:49 Daniel 8 through 12, would be increased.
19:54 I'm going to try and give you six reasons
19:56 why the book that was sealed is actually Daniel 8 through 12.
20:01 We've already dealt with Daniel 1 through 7.
20:04 That's a unit within itself.
20:06 But there are six reason... I don't know if we'll have
20:08 the time. I'll give you as many reasons as we can.
20:11 The first reason why the book that was sealed until the time
20:16 of the end is not the totality of the book of Daniel
20:19 is by looking at the languages in which Daniel was written.
20:25 Are you aware of the fact that Daniel chapter 1
20:28 was written in Hebrew? That's the introduction to
20:30 the whole book... so we'll put that aside.
20:32 But then from Daniel 2 to Daniel 7
20:36 the book is written in Aramaic,
20:39 also called Chaldean.
20:42 But Daniel chapter 8 through 12 is written in Hebrew...
20:46 which means that the languages themselves indicate that
20:51 we are really dealing with two books within one book:
20:56 Daniel 2 through 7 in Aramaic
20:59 and Daniel 8 through 12 in Hebrew.
21:03 Two different languages; two different sections of the book
21:06 of Daniel. Furthermore, the book that was sealed
21:11 until the time of the end - Daniel chapter 8 through 12
21:15 I believe - is not the totality of the book of Daniel.
21:19 And you say: "Why isn't the book that was sealed
21:21 all of the book of Daniel? "
21:23 It's very simple. Much of Daniel 1 through 7
21:27 could be understood before the time of the end.
21:30 In fact, allow me to read you a statement by a church father
21:34 by the name of Hippolochus.
21:36 He lived in the third century AD
21:39 and he almost sounds like an Adventist.
21:42 He's comparing Daniel 2 and Daniel 7.
21:45 It's a rather lengthy quotation
21:47 but I'm going to read it so that you can see that
21:49 Daniel 2 and Daniel 7 was pretty well understood
21:52 before the time of the end.
21:54 But there's one thing that was not understood.
21:56 This is what he says:
21:58 "In speaking of a lioness from the sea
22:01 Daniel meant the rising of the kingdom of Babylon
22:05 and that this was the golden head of the image.
22:08 Then after the lioness he sees a second beast like a bear
22:13 which signified the Persians
22:15 for after the Babylonians the Persians obtained the power.
22:18 And in saying that it had three ribs in its mouth
22:21 he pointed to the three nations: Persians, Medes, and Babylonians
22:24 which were expressed in the image by the silver
22:27 after the gold. Then comes a third beast...
22:29 a leopard... which means the Greeks.
22:31 For after the Persians Alexander of Macedon
22:34 had the power when Darius was overthrown
22:37 which was also indicated by the brass in the image.
22:40 And in saying that the beast had four wings of a fowl
22:43 and four heads he showed most clearly how the kingdom of
22:46 Alexander was parted into four divisions.
22:49 For in speaking of four heads he meant the four kings
22:53 that arose out of it. For Alexander, when dying,
22:56 divided his kingdom into four parts. "
22:58 Then he says: "The fourth beast was dreadful and terrible.
23:02 It had iron teeth and claws of brass.
23:04 Who, then, are meant by this but the Romans
23:08 whose kingdom - the kingdom that still stands -
23:11 is expressed by the iron" for says he:
23:14 "its legs are of iron. "
23:16 Uh, was he pretty clear on Daniel 2 and Daniel 7?
23:18 Oh absolutely! He sounds like an Adventist.
23:21 Isn't that right?
23:24 Now you say: "But he doesn't say anything
23:26 about the little horn. "
23:28 Well, there's another quotation that I want to read you,
23:31 also from Hippolochus
23:33 where he actually addresses the little horn
23:36 and the setting up of the everlasting kingdom.
23:39 And there's one thing that you're going to notice
23:40 that is missing that he did not understand.
23:43 This is what he says:
23:45 "Let us look at what is before us more carefully
23:49 and scan it as it were with open eyes.
23:53 The golden head of the image is identical with the lioness
23:57 by which the Babylonians were represented.
24:00 The golden shoulders and arms of silver
24:02 are the same with the bear by which the Persians and Medes
24:06 are meant. The belly and thighs of brass
24:09 are the leopard by which the Greeks - who ruled from
24:12 Alexander onwards - are intended.
24:14 The legs of iron are the dreadful and terrible beast
24:17 by which the Romans - who hold the empire now - are meant.
24:21 The toes of clay and iron are the ten horns which are to be. "
24:27 Because he's writing in the third century.
24:29 Rome has not been divided yet but he's understanding this.
24:32 And then he says: "The other... the one other little horn
24:37 springing up in their midst is the antichrist. "
24:40 Does he have it straight? Yes!
24:43 But now notice the one thing that he does not understand
24:46 fully. He says: "The stone that smites the image
24:51 and breaks it in pieces and that fills the whole earth
24:54 is Christ... who comes from heaven and brings judgment
24:58 on the world. " What did he not understand?
25:02 That the judgment is not when Jesus comes to bring judgment
25:05 on the world. The judgment takes place where?
25:09 The judgment takes place in heaven
25:11 before Jesus returns to take over the kingdoms of the world.
25:15 So he understood everything in Daniel 2,
25:18 everything in Daniel 7, but he understood the kingdom
25:21 and Jesus' coming in power and glory to take over the kingdoms
25:25 of the world.
25:28 Incidentally, there were portions of Daniel 8 through 12
25:31 that could be understood before the time of the end.
25:34 The events that led up to the judgment
25:36 could be understood before the time of the judgment came.
25:40 For example, do you think the prophecy of the 70 weeks
25:44 could be understood before the time of the end?
25:46 Absolutely! They were fulfilled before the time of the end.
25:49 You know, there was a church father that entertained
25:52 a conversation with a pagan philosopher by the name of
25:56 Porphyry. And basically Porphyry said to this
25:59 church father: 'You know, the book of Daniel could not have
26:02 been written by Daniel in the 6th century BC.
26:06 It's impossible. " And the church father says:
26:08 "Why not? " He says: "Because in Daniel 11
26:11 the history of Greece and Rome is so precise
26:15 and exact to history that no one could have
26:17 predicted it beforehand. "
26:19 So even Porphyry - the pagan philosopher - admitted
26:23 that much of Daniel 11 could be understood
26:26 before the time of the end.
26:28 So the book that was sealed until the time of the end
26:31 could not be the totality of Daniel
26:33 because there was much in Daniel 1 through 7
26:36 except for the judgment aspect
26:38 which was understood before the time of the end.
26:41 Let me give you the third reason.
26:43 You say: "What are the first two? "
26:46 First one is the language.
26:48 The second is that many portions of Daniel 1 through 7
26:52 except the judgment could be understood before the time
26:54 of the end. Reason number three:
26:56 The Spirit of Prophecy clearly states
27:00 that the book that was sealed is only a portion of Daniel.
27:05 How did Ellen White know this?
27:07 I suppose you might say it was a lucky guess?
27:10 No way!
27:12 You see, I've read commentaries on the book of Daniel
27:15 and most of the commentaries say "the book that was sealed
27:17 till the time of the end was the book of Daniel. "
27:19 Ellen White is more precise.
27:21 She says the book that was sealed was a portion of Daniel.
27:24 Allow me to read you just a couple of statements
27:26 where she makes that very clear.
27:29 This statement is from Acts of the Apostles page 585.
27:33 She says: "In the Revelation all the books of the Bible
27:37 meet and end.
27:38 Here is the complement of the book of Daniel.
27:41 One is a prophecy; the other a revelation. "
27:45 Now listen carefully:
27:47 "The book that was sealed is not the revelation
27:50 but that portion of the prophecy of Daniel
27:54 relating to the last days. "
27:56 What is a portion? It is a part.
27:59 And which part is sealed?
28:01 The one that has to do with what?
28:03 With the last days. She continues saying:
28:05 "But that portion of the prophecy of Daniel
28:08 relating to the last days the angel commanded
28:11 'But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words
28:14 and seal the book... even to the time of the end. ' "
28:18 In another statement, Great Controversy page 355,
28:22 Ellen White states this. And by the way, Ellen White
28:25 is going to explain that there were some aspects
28:28 even of Daniel 8 through 12
28:30 which could be understood before the time of the end
28:32 that were not sealed.
28:34 The events that led up to the judgment could be understood
28:37 but the judgment aspect could not.
28:39 In other words, the reason for the events that lead up
28:42 to the judgment is to give us a frame of reference
28:45 for the beginning of the judgment.
28:46 Notice what she says:
28:48 "The message of salvation has been preached in all ages
28:51 but this message... " She's talking about the first
28:53 angel's message - the hour of His judgment is come...
28:56 She says: "But this message is a part of the gospel
28:59 which could be proclaimed only in the last days
29:03 for only then would it be true that the hour of His judgment
29:07 had come. " You see, you couldn't preach the hour of His
29:10 judgment has come" unless the hour of His judgment had come.
29:13 She continues saying... listen carefully:
29:16 "But prophecies present a succession of events... "
29:20 That's historicism. "They present a succession of
29:22 events leading down to the opening of the judgment. "
29:26 Can we understand the succession of events?
29:28 We certainly can. Before the time of the end
29:31 many understood them. So she says:
29:33 "The prophecies present a succession of events
29:35 leading down to the opening of the judgment.
29:38 This is especially true of the book of Daniel. "
29:40 Now listen carefully: "But that part of his prophecy... "
29:45 What is a part?
29:48 A part, right?
29:51 "But that part of his prophecy which related to the last days
29:56 Daniel was bidden to close up and seal
30:00 till the time of the end. Not till we reach this time
30:04 could a message concerning the judgment be proclaimed
30:07 based on the fulfillment of these prophecies.
30:10 But at the time of the end" says the prophet
30:13 "many shall run to and fro and knowledge shall increase. "
30:19 Are you understanding so far?
30:22 Now, let's give a fourth reason.
30:25 This is the most important of all.
30:27 When you study the internal content of Daniel 8 through 12
30:33 you find that all of these chapters are intimately
30:37 connected. They're weaved together.
30:42 They cannot be understood independently
30:44 one from the other.
30:46 In other words, as you examine the evidence
30:48 itself within the Bible text
30:51 you're going to discover that these chapters
30:54 have a central theme.
30:56 And that central theme is what takes place in 1844:
31:02 the beginning of the Investigative Judgment
31:04 in heaven. That is the central theme that links
31:08 every single one of those chapters: Daniel 8 through 12.
31:12 In other words, every chapter has something to do
31:14 with that particular theme.
31:17 Now let's take a look at each chapter and see how each chapter
31:21 presents this central theme of the judgment.
31:24 Let's begin with chapter 12... chapter 8.
31:28 Chapter 8 of Daniel gives us the historical framework
31:32 of when the judgment is going to begin.
31:36 I'll just review. I appreciate so much
31:39 that all the other have prepared the way for this presentation.
31:42 So this is just going to be review.
31:45 In Daniel chapter 8 you have a ram.
31:48 The ram has two horns
31:50 and the largest horn comes out last.
31:54 What does the ram represent?
31:57 The ram represents the Medes and Persians.
31:59 And by the way, the Medes were actually the power
32:04 that at first governed. But then Persia came up
32:09 and became much more predominant and powerful
32:11 than the Medes. This can be proven historically.
32:15 So you have the ram. The ram has two horns
32:18 which represents Medo-Persia.
32:20 Notice that Daniel 8 does not begin with Babylon.
32:22 It begins with Medo-Persia.
32:23 Secondly then you have a he-goat.
32:26 What does the he-goat represent?
32:28 It represents Greece and it has a notable horn.
32:31 What does the notable horn represent?
32:33 It represents Alexander the Great... the first king.
32:36 Then the notable horn is broken.
32:38 In other words, Alexander no longer rules
32:41 and four horns come out.
32:43 What do the four horns represent?
32:46 They represent the 4 divisions of Alexander's empire.
32:51 So we move from Medo-Persia to the first king of Greece
32:56 to the four kingdoms that came from the kingdom of Alexander.
33:01 And then you have a little horn...
33:03 a little horn that first of all has a secular stage
33:07 because basically it's conquering geographically.
33:10 But then this little horn morphs and it becomes
33:13 a religious little horn
33:15 that takes away the daily from the Prince of the host.
33:18 He tramples on the saints.
33:20 He tramples on the sanctuary
33:22 and he sets up the abomination of desolation.
33:24 From a mere secular power the little horn has morphed
33:28 into a religious system that uses the state to persecute.
33:32 And then, immediately after the period of dominion
33:36 of the little horn, when it gets involved with
33:40 Christ's ministry in heaven then you have the beginning
33:44 of the Investigative Judgment. "Unto 2300 days
33:48 and the sanctuary shall be cleansed. "
33:53 Now there are two differences
33:55 between Daniel 2 and 7 and Daniel 8.
33:59 There are actually four, but I'm only going to cover two.
34:02 The first difference is that whereas Daniel 2 and 7
34:06 begin with Babylon, in Daniel 8 it begins with Medo-Persia.
34:12 And usually the argument is: "Well the reason why
34:15 is because Babylon is about to pass from history. "
34:17 But really Babylon would not pass from history
34:19 for another 12 years according to the date that is given.
34:22 There's another reason why Babylon is not mentioned
34:26 in the prophecy of Daniel 8...
34:27 why it begins with Medo-Persia instead of with Babylon.
34:32 The second thing that is not mentioned there
34:35 in Daniel chapter 8 is the everlasting kingdom.
34:38 In Daniel 2 the vision concludes with the stone
34:42 hitting the feet of the image and Jesus setting up
34:44 His everlasting kingdom.
34:46 In Daniel chapter 7 after the judgment
34:48 the kingdom is given to Christ and He reigns forever and ever.
34:52 In other words, Daniel 2 and Daniel 7
34:54 end with the setting up of the everlasting kingdom.
34:56 However, Daniel chapter 8
34:58 does not end with the everlasting kingdom.
35:01 It is incomplete.
35:03 It simply ends with the work of the little horn
35:06 and with the conclusion of the 2300 days
35:09 when the cleansing of the sanctuary will begin.
35:12 And so you say: "Why doesn't it begin with Babylon
35:15 and why don't you have the idea of the setting up
35:18 of the everlasting kingdom? "
35:21 Well, in order to answer these questions
35:23 we have to go to the following chapter to see how it's related
35:29 to Daniel chapter 8.
35:30 Let me ask you: does Daniel 8 give you a starting point
35:34 for the 2300 days when the sanctuary will be cleansed?
35:37 Does Daniel 8 give you a date when the 2300 days begin
35:42 after which the sanctuary will be cleansed?
35:44 No. It simply says: "Until 2300 days
35:49 and the sanctuary will be... " What?
35:51 "the sanctuary will be cleansed. "
35:52 But it does not give you a starting point
35:55 when you begin the 2300 days.
35:58 So where would you expect to find the starting point
36:01 for the 2300-day prophecy?
36:03 You would expect to find it where?
36:05 In the very next chapter.
36:07 And what do we have in the next chapter?
36:09 "From the going forth of the word to restore and build
36:14 Jerusalem... " Do we have a specific historical date
36:17 for that event? We most certainly do.
36:20 Is Daniel 9 connected to Daniel chapter 8?
36:23 It most certainly is because it gives us
36:25 the starting point of the 2300 days
36:28 that are mentioned in chapter 8. Are you following me or not?
36:31 So Daniel 9... the purpose of Daniel 9- besides
36:34 giving us the story of the Messiah and His baptism
36:37 and the death on the cross and the final rejection
36:39 of the Jewish theocracy there's another purpose
36:42 and that is to give us a beginning reference point
36:45 when the 2300 days will begin and when they will end
36:50 and the Investigative Judgment will begin.
36:53 Now we know the reason why Babylon isn't mentioned.
36:55 Because the 2300 days don't begin in the kingdom of Babylon,
36:59 they begin during the period of Medo-Persia.
37:03 Are you following me?
37:05 If... if in Daniel 8 they begin with Babylon
37:08 and then mention 2300 days, it would have given the
37:11 impression that the 2300 days would begin during the kingdom
37:14 of what? Of Babylon.
37:16 But the 2300 days begin with Artaxerxes
37:19 who was the ruler of Medo-Persia.
37:21 Now we know the reason why there is no mention of Babylon
37:26 in this prophecy.
37:28 So is Daniel 8 related to Daniel 9?
37:32 They're very closely linked.
37:34 Daniel 8 gives you the time period; Daniel 9 gives you
37:37 the date when the time period begins.
37:39 Now you say: "What about Daniel 10? "
37:41 Nothing was said here on Daniel 10.
37:44 Powerful chapter... tremendous chapter.
37:48 Let me ask you: did certain decrees
37:52 have to be made by Persian kings in order for the
37:56 2300-day prophecy to begin its fulfillment?
37:59 For the seventy weeks to begin on time was it necessary
38:03 for Persian kings to give decrees that would take God's
38:07 people back to their land to rebuild their temple,
38:10 to rebuilt their walls, to rebuild their city,
38:13 and to re-establish the religious system?
38:16 Was that indispensible? Absolutely.
38:18 Did the devil know that?
38:20 He most certainly did.
38:22 You see if the Jews did not return, the temple, the city,
38:26 and the walls would not be rebuilt,
38:28 a functioning theocracy would not be established,
38:32 the 70-week prophecy would not begin.
38:35 Therefore the prophecy of the 2300 days would not begin
38:39 to be fulfilled on time.
38:41 God's timeline would be frustrated.
38:45 Now you say: "How does that relate to Daniel chapter 10? "
38:49 When you go to the end of the chapter
38:51 you're going to find that there's a battle going on.
38:54 The prince of Persia is... by the way... is a symbol of Satan.
39:00 He is working upon the minds of the Persian kings.
39:04 What do you suppose he's trying to do to the Persian kings?
39:08 What is he trying to convince them to do?
39:10 To not give the what? The decrees.
39:14 And this can be proved historically.
39:15 You know, Cyrus gave the decree for God's people to return
39:19 in the year 536 BC when the 70-year prophecy
39:22 of Jeremiah came to an end.
39:23 But do you know that the Samaritans who were in the land
39:28 complained so much to the king that Cambyses
39:32 suspended the permission to rebuild the temple.
39:35 What was happening there?
39:36 Who do you suppose was working on the mind of Cambyses?
39:40 Oh, have you ever read that the wall of the city
39:44 would be rebuilt in "troublous times? "
39:46 Have you ever noticed that the ones who were in the land
39:50 fought tooth and nail for the rebuilding of the walls,
39:54 for the rebuilding of the temple,
39:55 for the rebuilding of the city.
39:57 They fought against this. Why?
40:00 Because there was a power from behind who was trying
40:03 to influence the Persian kings not to give the decrees
40:07 which would lead the 70 weeks to begin on time
40:10 and the 2300 days to begin on time. Are you following me?
40:14 And the good news is that at the end of the chapter
40:17 Gabriel is struggling. He really can't prevail.
40:21 And so the Bible says that Michael comes
40:24 and Michael along with Gabriel work upon the minds
40:29 of the Persian kings. And as a result
40:31 the decrees are given on time.
40:33 In fact, after Michael finishes His struggle with the Persian
40:36 kings He said: "Now I have to leave and I have to continue
40:40 struggling with the kings of Persia. "
40:42 So let me ask you: is Daniel chapter 10
40:45 intimately related to Daniel chapter 9 and Daniel chapter 8?
40:49 They are intimately related.
40:51 The theme is the 2300-day prophecy.
40:54 The prophecy is introduced in Daniel 8.
40:57 Daniel 9 gives the starting date.
40:59 Daniel 10 gives us the tremendous battle
41:02 for these decrees to be given so that the 2300 days
41:06 could begin on time.
41:10 You say: "Now what about Daniel 11? "
41:15 Do you know that the last vision in Daniel
41:20 was chapter 8?
41:23 No, there were the apparitions of heavenly beings
41:26 in Daniel chapter 10, but the last vision
41:30 in the book of Daniel was Daniel chapter 8.
41:34 Everything that happens after Daniel chapter 8
41:36 is an explanation of Daniel 8.
41:39 Because Daniel got sick... You remember he got sick
41:43 at the end of chapter 8?
41:44 Gabriel could not finish the explanation, so Gabriel comes
41:48 back in chapter 9. And he says in chapter 9:
41:50 "Now I'm going to give you the starting date. "
41:52 And then in chapter 10 he says: "Now I'm going to tell you
41:54 about the battle that took place for these decrees to be
41:57 given and how Michael and Gabriel prevailed
42:00 on the minds of the kings of Persia. "
42:03 But you'll notice that in Daniel 8
42:06 the explanation of the vision was incomplete
42:09 because Daniel got sick.
42:10 So in Daniel 11... listen carefully...
42:13 in Daniel 11 what is happening is that Gabriel is going to
42:16 tell Daniel - no new vision in Daniel 11 by the way -
42:19 it's the same vision as Daniel 8.
42:21 It's an explanation of Daniel 8.
42:23 Gabriel says: "Now I'm coming back and I'm going to start
42:26 where I started in Daniel 8.
42:28 And what I'm going to do this time: I'm going to begin
42:31 where I began in Daniel 8 with Medo-Persia.
42:34 I'm going to carry you through all of the powers that will rule
42:38 in history but this time instead of ending in 1844
42:42 I'm going to take you all the way to the close of probation
42:46 and the setting up of Christ's everlasting kingdom. "
42:49 Are you understanding me?
42:51 And so where does he begin in Daniel chapter 11?
42:54 I was blessed by Pastor Rafferty's presentation
42:57 on Daniel 11. I mean to get through that material
43:00 in such a clear, succinct way
43:03 you know that it's easily understandable
43:06 was a tremendous task fulfilled.
43:09 Because it's not an easy prophecy to explain.
43:12 And I'm thankful because I don't have to do a lot of explaining.
43:18 Where does Daniel 11 begin?
43:20 I'm just going to give you a synthesis.
43:22 You can read it... it begins with Persia.
43:25 "Three kings will yet rise in Persia"
43:28 it says in verse 2.
43:30 What is the next power that's mentioned in Daniel chapter 11?
43:33 Greece. Is its first king mentioned?
43:37 Absolutely. Does it say that after the first king falls
43:41 that there are going to be four kingdoms from this king's
43:43 kingdom? Is this parallel to Daniel 8?
43:45 It most certainly is. It's beginning with the same
43:48 kingdom; it's going through the same events.
43:50 And then, as Pastor Rafferty showed us
43:53 it continues with pagan Rome.
43:57 Primarily in verses 20 and 21 of chapter 11
44:01 you're dealing with pagan Rome.
44:04 And then beginning in verse 30 all the way through verse 39
44:08 you have papal Rome, the period of dominion of the little horn
44:13 or the beast or the man of sin
44:15 as he's called in different places of scripture.
44:18 So basically what you've done: you've started with Medo-Persia.
44:21 You've continued with Greece with its first king...
44:24 the division into four kingdoms.
44:26 Then you've gone to pagan Rome.
44:28 Then you've gone to papal Rome during the 1,260 years.
44:33 But in chapter 11 Gabriel is going to say:
44:36 "I'm going to take you far beyond where I took you
44:38 in Daniel 8. " You see, in Daniel 8 he basically
44:42 tells Daniel: "2300 days and the sanctuary will be cleansed. "
44:46 In other words, the judgment will begin.
44:48 But in Daniel chapter 11 and 12 he's going to say:
44:52 "I'm going to take you not only to where the judgment begins
44:55 I'm going to take you to where the judgment ends
44:57 and the setting up of the everlasting kingdom. "
45:00 And so we find in Daniel chapter 11 and verse 40
45:06 the king of the South rising against the king of the North.
45:08 The king of the South is Egypt... atheism...
45:11 in the French Revolution that arose against the king
45:14 of the North which is the papacy and gave it its deadly wound.
45:17 It means to gore. It's the same idea that is used
45:19 in Daniel chapter 8 where the ram is pushing with his horns
45:24 and he's attacking with his horns.
45:26 In other words, at the time of the end
45:27 the secular power would arise against this religious power
45:31 that governed for 1,260 years.
45:34 But then what would happen?
45:36 The king of the North would recover his power.
45:38 And you read starting in verse 40... the last part of
45:41 verse 40... through verse 45
45:44 it says that the king of the North would basically
45:46 overwhelm the world.
45:48 It would flood the world; it would conquer everything
45:51 in its path except for a small remnant.
45:55 In fact, it says in Daniel 11 verse 44
45:59 that the king of the North would go out to destroy many...
46:03 to destroy God's people.
46:05 And then when he's at the point of destroying God's people
46:09 we have Daniel 12 verse 1: "At that time Michael shall
46:14 stand up. " Do you know what event is being marked there?
46:19 It is the close of the Investigative Judgment.
46:23 So Daniel 8 and 9 give you the date for the beginning
46:27 of the judgment BUT in Daniel chapter 12 and verse 1
46:31 it takes you to the conclusion of that judgment.
46:34 And you know, somebody said to me once:
46:36 "Well you know, how do you know
46:38 that Jesus is going to change, you know, His priestly garments
46:42 into His kingly garments like Ellen White says? "
46:45 Because that's what it means. The standing up of Michael
46:48 basically means that He's not going to function as high priest
46:51 any more. He's going to change His garments and He's going to
46:54 garb Himself with the garments of a king.
46:57 So somebody facetiously... an Adventist who obviously
47:00 didn't believe much in the Spirit of Prophecy said:
47:02 "Where does Ellen White get that idea? "
47:03 And in my regular, diplomatic way
47:09 I said: "If you use just a small percentage of that gray matter
47:13 that God has given you you would be able to figure out
47:16 for yourself. " He says: "How's that? "
47:18 I said: "Well let me ask you a series of questions. "
47:20 I said: "What is Jesus doing in heaven now?
47:23 What is His job in heaven? "
47:25 "Oh, " he says, "well He's High Priest. "
47:26 I said: "Well then how is He garbed if He's High Priest? "
47:30 Says: "Well, He must be garbed as a high priest. "
47:33 So I said: "Very good... two for two. "
47:36 I said: "Now let me ask you:
47:38 when Jesus returns in power and glory
47:40 how is He clothed? "
47:43 Now He's thinking.
47:46 He says: "Well I suppose that He's going to come like
47:50 Revelation 19 says that He's going to come clothed as
47:53 King of Kings and Lord of Lords. "
47:55 So I said: "Well if He's coming clothed as King of Kings
47:58 and Lord of Lords He must have changed. "
48:04 Does that make sense? Yes.
48:06 So Daniel chapter 12 and verse 1 speaks about the moment
48:09 when the Investigative Judgment closes.
48:11 Is there going to be a terrible time of trouble after the
48:14 Investigative Judgment closes? Absolutely!
48:17 Because it says: "Michael shall stand up. "
48:19 He's going to defend His people.
48:21 And then it says: "There will be a time of trouble such as
48:23 never was since there was a nation. "
48:26 The time of trouble will take place after the close
48:28 of probation. Are God's people going to go through that period?
48:32 Yes, because the good news is it says at the end of that verse
48:37 that "Your people will be... " What?
48:40 "delivered... every one who is found written in the book. "
48:43 Delivered from whom?
48:45 Delivered from the persecutions of the king of the North
48:48 that wants to wipe them out.
48:49 The same power that persecuted during the 1,260 years
48:53 will be the power that will persecute at the end of time.
48:57 And then if you read Daniel chapter 12 verses 2 and 3
49:00 it speaks about the everlasting kingdom
49:03 which was not in Daniel chapter 8 because
49:07 the explanation was suspended. And so now in verses 2 and 3
49:11 it speaks about God's people inheriting the kingdom
49:14 and shining as stars in God's kingdom forever and ever.
49:19 Let me ask you: is Daniel chapter 11 related
49:22 to Daniel chapter 8? Is Daniel 9 related to Daniel 8?
49:27 Is Daniel 10 related to Daniel 8?
49:29 What is the central theme of Daniel 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12?
49:35 The central theme is what? The Investigative Judgment.
49:39 When it begins in Daniel 8 and 9
49:42 and when it ends in Daniel chapter 12 and verse 1.
49:47 Are you following me? Yes.
49:49 Reason number five... we're on a roll.
49:55 Revelation chapter 10. This is a topic for another Camp Meeting
49:58 but I'll just synthesize.
50:01 In Revelation chapter 10 a mighty angel descends from
50:04 heaven and in his hand he has a little book... open.
50:10 Translations don't reflect really what it says.
50:13 The tense of the verb is "he came down from heaven
50:16 with a little book having been opened. "
50:19 Which means that before this it must have been closed.
50:24 What is the only book in scripture that was ever closed
50:26 to be opened later? Daniel 12 and verse 4.
50:31 In other words, Revelation chapter 10 gives us the moment
50:36 in the time of the end when this book is unsealed.
50:39 Are you following me?
50:41 And this mighty angel descends from heaven
50:44 and the interesting thing is he raises his hand
50:49 and... I'm skipping several things... and he swears
50:52 by the Creator that time will be no longer.
50:57 Why does he say "time will be... " You know,
50:59 modern versions translate "there will no longer be
51:01 any delay. " That's not a version; that's a perversion.
51:07 It's the word chronos, and the versions of the Bible
51:12 translate time in every other reference
51:15 but in this one they put delay.
51:17 What time is being referred to here by the angel?
51:20 When the angel says - by the way, this is the 6th trumpet -
51:22 Would that be the time of the end? The sixth trumpet?
51:25 Absolutely. The time of the end/ the 6th trumpet.
51:28 There's only one more. And the 7th trumpet is when
51:30 Jesus takes over His kingdom interestingly enough.
51:34 So chapter 10 must be describing
51:36 the Investigative Judgment under the 6th trumpet
51:39 before Jesus takes over His kingdom in the moment of
51:42 the 7th trumpet. Why would he say: "Time is no longer? "
51:45 To what time was the angel referring when he said
51:47 that time will be no longer?
51:49 He is referring to the prophecy of the 2300 days.
51:53 He's saying: "The 2300-day prophecy is now fulfilled
51:56 and therefore there's no more prophetic time. "
52:01 Prophetic time has come to an end.
52:02 It's a direct link between Revelation chapter 10
52:06 and Daniel chapter 8.
52:09 The time prophecy in Daniel chapter 8 is the 2300 days.
52:13 In 1844 the angel swears "Time will be no longer
52:16 because the time prophecy has been fulfilled. "
52:21 Have you ever noticed that in Revelation chapter 10
52:23 that you also have the Great Disappointment in connection
52:26 with this? John is told to eat the book.
52:32 What book is it?
52:34 All of Daniel? No. Which one?
52:37 The portion that has to do with what?
52:40 With the judgment. So it's the judgment message
52:43 that is being assimilated by John.
52:47 And what happens when he assimilates the judgment hour
52:49 message? Ah, it's sweet.
52:53 Was that the experience of the Millerites?
52:55 Oh, it was so sweet. Ellen White says it was the
52:57 happiest day of her... the happiest year of her life.
53:00 The one that led to 1844.
53:03 Was the judgment hour message a sweet message?
53:06 Yes it was. Because they believed that the judgment
53:08 would be Jesus Christ coming to bring judgment upon the world.
53:13 But what happened in the aftermath?
53:15 It became bitter in the stomach.
53:17 The judgment hour message - which is the theme of the book -
53:20 became what? It became bitter!
53:24 Does that describe the experience of the Advent
53:26 movement? Did William Miller preach the 2300 days?
53:32 Was that the central message of his? Yes.
53:35 Was it about the book? Absolutely!
53:37 Was it a sweet experience? Yes.
53:39 Did it become bitter? Absolutely!
53:42 And then you notice that John is told
53:45 "You must prophesy again. "
53:48 You know you can't do something again unless you've done it
53:51 once before.
53:54 Did the Millerites bring forth a message from this book?
53:57 Did they totally understand the message from this book?
54:00 No, they were wrong about the event but they were right
54:03 about the timing.
54:05 So the angel says: "Now you must go and you must prophesy
54:08 again to the nations, to the tongues, and to the peoples
54:11 and explain to them the true meaning...
54:13 the true meaning of this text. "
54:15 By the way, do you know where the prophesying again is
54:18 in the book of Revelation?
54:19 Revelation 14 verse 7: "I saw another angel flying
54:22 in the midst of heaven having the everlasting gospel
54:25 to preach to those who dwell on the earth:
54:26 to every nation, kindred, tongue, and people
54:28 saying with a loud voice 'Fear God and give glory to Him
54:31 for the hour of His judgment has come. ' "
54:36 Is that a pre-Advent judgment?
54:38 Does that take place before the second coming?
54:40 Does it take place in heaven?
54:42 Yes. You say: "How do we know that? "
54:44 It's very simple.
54:45 See all we have to do is think when we read.
54:49 Don't just read... think.
54:51 Ask the text questions.
54:53 Let me ask you: does the judgment take place while the
54:55 everlasting gospel is being preached?
54:58 The first angel's message says it's an angel.
55:01 He's preaching the everlasting gospel. And the angel says:
55:03 "the hour of His judgment has come. "
55:04 So does the judgment take place while the gospel is being
55:06 preached? Yes. So the judgment has to take place before
55:10 the second coming of Christ. Amen.
55:11 And if it takes place before the second coming of Christ
55:14 it must take place where?
55:16 It must take place in heaven.
55:21 And then the same angel tells John
55:25 "Arise and measure the temple and those who worship therein. "
55:31 Do you know what the act of measuring is?
55:36 Matthew chapter 7 verses 1 and 2
55:38 says that measuring is the act of judging.
55:43 So what happens after the disappointment?
55:46 After the angel says: "Time will be no longer? "
55:49 After the disappointment over the little book
55:51 after the angels says: "You must prophesy and explain
55:54 things again" then he is given the message that needs to be
55:58 proclaimed: the message that the measuring of the temple
56:02 is now to begin.
56:04 And what is the measuring of the temple?
56:06 The measuring the temple is the process of the
56:10 Investigative Judgment.
56:12 Do we have ample reason to believe that the book
56:15 that was sealed till the time of the end
56:18 was the book within the book?
56:20 Absolutely. The book that contains the 2300-day prophecy.
56:24 Now we have one minute left.
56:25 Let me give you the six reasons quickly.
56:27 And this will be some homework because we won't be able to
56:30 finish it. Look up in the book of Daniel the word understand.
56:36 See, Daniel didn't understand
56:39 and so an order comes to Gabriel in Daniel 8 verse 16
56:42 where Gabriel is told: "Make Daniel understand. "
56:45 In 8:17 Gabriel now says: "Daniel understands. "
56:48 In 8:27 Daniel says: "I didn't understand. "
56:51 In 9:1-2 Daniel is trying to understand the 70-year prophecy
56:55 as it relates to the 2300 days.
56:57 In 9:23 Gabriel tells Daniel: "Understand the vision. "
57:01 In Daniel 10 verse 1 after he explains the vision
57:04 Daniel says: "I understood. "
57:09 And then in Daniel chapter 10 verses 11, 12, and 13
57:12 it says Gabriel comes to help him understand even more.
57:16 And in Daniel 12 verse 12 it says:
57:17 "The wise shall understand. "
57:20 The word understand links together all these chapters.
57:23 Don't we have a marvelous message as a church?
57:26 We don't have to be embarrassed.
57:27 We have the truth of the Word.


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